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libertygrl
09-16-2012, 09:04 AM
I just found this video. This guy is very outspoken. Haven't had the time to go through all his positions yet. But I do like his foreign policy.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqoYEKHlohw&feature=player_embedded

What do you guys think??


h ttp://merlinmiller2012.com/

FrankRep
09-16-2012, 09:15 AM
No thank you.


Merlin L. Miller (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merlin_Miller)



During the 2000s, Miller began to take on an increasingly paleoconservative political stance. He also became harshly critical of Hollywood, claiming that it "surreptitiously seeks to destroy our European-American heritage and our Christian-based traditional values, and replace them with values that debase these traditional values and elevate minorities as paragons of virtue and wisdom....Today’s motion pictures, in concert with other forms of mass media entertainment, are the greatest enemies to the well-being of our progeny and the future of our country." Miller has also accused Hollywood of being under "Jewish-Zionist control"; he cites Kevin B. MacDonald as influencing this view. He has attacked celebrities such as Quentin Tarantino and Madonna, saying that they are "dysfunctional" and "come from traditional Christian or European-American backgrounds but are notorious for spurning those values."



American Third Position Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Third_Position_Party)



The American Third Position Party (A3P) is a third positionist American political party which promotes white supremacy. It was officially launched in January 2010 (although in November 2009 it filed papers to get on a ballot in California) partially to channel the right-wing populist resentment engendered by the financial crisis of 2007–2010 and the policies of the Obama administration and defines its principal mission as representing the political interests of white Americans. The party takes a strong stand against immigration and globalization, and strongly supports an anti-interventionist foreign policy. Although the party does not support labor unions, they do strongly support the labor rights of the American working class on a platform of placing American workers first over illegal immigrant workers and banning of overseas corporate relocation of American industry and technology.

libertygrl
09-16-2012, 01:42 PM
No thank you.


Merlin L. Miller (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merlin_Miller)



During the 2000s, Miller began to take on an increasingly paleoconservative political stance. He also became harshly critical of Hollywood, claiming that it "surreptitiously seeks to destroy our European-American heritage and our Christian-based traditional values, and replace them with values that debase these traditional values and elevate minorities as paragons of virtue and wisdom....Today’s motion pictures, in concert with other forms of mass media entertainment, are the greatest enemies to the well-being of our progeny and the future of our country." Miller has also accused Hollywood of being under "Jewish-Zionist control"; he cites Kevin B. MacDonald as influencing this view. He has attacked celebrities such as Quentin Tarantino and Madonna, saying that they are "dysfunctional" and "come from traditional Christian or European-American backgrounds but are notorious for spurning those values."



American Third Position Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Third_Position_Party)



The American Third Position Party (A3P) is a third positionist American political party which promotes white supremacy. It was officially launched in January 2010 (although in November 2009 it filed papers to get on a ballot in California) partially to channel the right-wing populist resentment engendered by the financial crisis of 2007–2010 and the policies of the Obama administration and defines its principal mission as representing the political interests of white Americans. The party takes a strong stand against immigration and globalization, and strongly supports an anti-interventionist foreign policy. Although the party does not support labor unions, they do strongly support the labor rights of the American working class on a platform of placing American workers first over illegal immigrant workers and banning of overseas corporate relocation of American industry and technology.

Eh, I don't particularly trust Wikipedia. Anyone can go in there and edit things around to suit their own agenda. Have any better independent non-biased sources?

I never heard of this candidate before. I do like some of his stances. But I have pause for some concern when he just mentions white people. If you are going to run for president, you have to represent ALL Americans. Not just white Europeans.

But to play devil's advocate here for a minute: While I am personally against dividing people up into ethnic groups, (or any group for that matter) you have to wonder why is it considered acceptable for there to be a La Raza (which means the race), and other groups of this kind representing their people, yet it is considered racist if there's a group that wants to advocate for the political interests of white europeans? I'm just saying....

As far as illegal immigration - I am more concerned about looking at the bigger picture - the reason why the government doesn't enforce it's laws and floods the country with poor, unskilled and uneducated immigrants which becomes a burden on the working poor and middle class in this country. This is indeed an intentional agenda. My concern is based on THAT and not a person's skin color:

American Marxism founders like the Rockefeller family who founded the Trilateral Commission, and Bill Clinton's personal mentor, the late Carroll Quigley, Professor of History at Georgetown University, and member of the CFR, who stated in his book, Tragedy & Hope:

"The CFR is the American Branch of a society which originated in England, and which believes that national boundaries should be obliterated, and a one-world rule established."

I did a little research on the man (Kevin MacDonald) that is referenced in the Wikipedia paragraph as being an influence on Miller:

Kevin MacDonald is Professor of Psychology at California State University–Long Beach. After receiving a Masters degree in evolutionary biology, he received a Ph. D. in Biobehavioral Sciences, both at the University of Connecticut. Since assuming his position at California State University–Long Beach, his research has focused on developing evolutionary perspectives on culture, developmental psychology and personality theory, the origins and maintenance of monogamous marriage in Western Europe, and ethnic relations (group evolutionary strategies).

He even writes about Libertarians' stance on open borders:

Several prominent libertarians have advocated open borders except for immigrants clearly intent on violating personal or property rights. As Krejsa notes, libertarians ignore the reality that the peoples crowding our shores often have powerful ethnic ties and that they are typically organized in well-funded, aggressive ethnic organizations. These ethnic organizations have a vital interest in a strong central government able to further their interests in a wide range of areas, from welfare benefits to foreign policy. In other words, they act far more as a corporate entity than as a set of isolated individuals.

h ttp://www.kevinmacdonald.net/West.htm

Regarding Zionism/Hollywood: The Los Angeles Times columnist Joel Stein (Zionist) wrote an article proclaiming that Americans who don't think Jews (Zionists) control Hollywood are just plain 'dumb'. Stein went on:

'The Jews are so dominant. I had to scour the trades to come up with six Gentiles in high positions at entertainment companies. But lo and behold, even one of that six, AMC President Charles Collier, turned out to be a Jew! ... As a proud Jew, I want America to know of our accomplishment. Yes, we control Hollywood.'

He then goes on to provide a long, long list of Hollywood/media chieftains-all Jews!-to prove his point. On his list: Fox News President Peter Chernin; Paramount Pictures Chairman Brad Grey; Walt Disney CEO Robert Igor; Sony Pictures Chairman Michael Lynton; Warner Brothers Chairman Barry Meyer; CBS CEO Leslie Moonves; MGM Chairman Harry Sloan; and NBC/Universal Studios CEO Jeff Zucker.

h ttp://articles.latimes.com/2008/dec/19/opinion/oe-stein19

And it's just not Hollywood. Gee, I wonder why we never see images like this in the main stream news media:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v711/AlanCrane/StopZionism.jpg?t=1256106901

http://www.digitaljournal.com/img/2/5/7/7/3/3/i/5/0/6/p-medium/Jews_United_Against_Zionism_UK.jpg

People have been brainwashed to believe (including myself), that Anti Zionism = Anti-Semitism. Many people read articles against Zionism and inaccurately consider it against Jewish people. Zionists are an elite group, aligned with one world government agendas, who even treat other Jewish people who are not elite as inferior.

There are even Jewish organizations who are against it: h ttp://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/zionism/notjews.cfm

Just something to think about....

FrankRep
09-16-2012, 01:47 PM
Eh, I don't particularly trust Wikipedia. Anyone can go in there and edit things around to suit their own agenda. Have any better independent non-biased sources?

You better learn about what you're supporting.



An Introduction to the American Third Position (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtAAw4cBevk)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtAAw4cBevk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtAAw4cBevk


Merlin Miller Interview - The White Voice (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyO6Hel-G3E)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyO6Hel-G3E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyO6Hel-G3E

trey4sports
09-16-2012, 02:02 PM
oh god....

libertygrl
09-16-2012, 02:06 PM
You better learn about what you're supporting.



An Introduction to the American Third Position (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtAAw4cBevk)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtAAw4cBevk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtAAw4cBevk


Merlin Miller Interview - The White Voice (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyO6Hel-G3E)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyO6Hel-G3E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyO6Hel-G3E

I'm not supporting anything. I think I made myself clear that I didn't care for their "only white" platform. I just wanted to make some clarifications on what you posted from Wikipedia, and the hypocracy of it being acceptable to have political groups representing other races, while it is uncacceptable to have one for white europeans. :cool:

MelissaWV
09-16-2012, 02:26 PM
There is not a suitably severe enough facepalm graphic.

specsaregood
09-16-2012, 02:31 PM
Just something to think about....

The fact that you posted that indicates to me that you knew you were gonna have to post that in response before you ever created the thread.

pcosmar
09-16-2012, 02:50 PM
Just something to think about....

This is the problem with grasping at straws.
You need to be grounded in Principals first. (I suppose this is what I like about Dr. Paul)
Anyone can come along and say one or two things you like and sell a whole case of crap along with it. Lies are best sold with some piece of truth.
The guy has some legitimate points,, but them mixes it with a bunch of crap.
This is why I can not jump on the bandwagon with some "Liberty Candidates"..
They are selling snake oil and put a Liberty Label on it.

There is much to think about..

libertygrl
09-16-2012, 02:54 PM
The fact that you posted that indicates to me that you knew you were gonna have to post that in response before you ever created the thread.

What?????

libertygrl
09-16-2012, 02:58 PM
This is the problem with grasping at straws.
You need to be grounded in Principals first. (I suppose this is what I like about Dr. Paul)
Anyone can come along and say one or two things you like and sell a whole case of crap along with it. Lies are best sold with some piece of truth.
The guy has some legitimate points,, but them mixes it with a bunch of crap.
This is why I can not jump on the bandwagon with some "Liberty Candidates"..
They are selling snake oil and put a Liberty Label on it.

There is much to think about..

THANKS. You're exactly right. That's why I was ok with some things but uncomfortable with others.

RonRules
09-16-2012, 09:17 PM
I thought I followed this year's election contest pretty close, but I had never heard of Merlin Miller, nor the American Third Position party.

He's a pretty straight shooter and tells it like it is. That's why we probably won't hear about him much.

pcosmar
09-16-2012, 09:25 PM
I thought I followed this year's election contest pretty close, but I had never heard of Merlin Miller, nor the American Third Position party.

He's a pretty straight shooter and tells it like it is. That's why we probably won't hear about him much.

No,, he is a white supremacist with a very small following.
Here is to hoping it does not grow.

Though after watching how folks supported Santorum,, hope is small.
The people in Germany gave Adolf the reigns,, for very much the same reasons.

:(

tttppp
09-16-2012, 09:28 PM
I don't support this guy, but it is hypocritical that many people support the rights of only their race, but anytime a white person does the same thing he is considered a nut.

thequietkid10
09-16-2012, 10:37 PM
I think it should be noted that PressTV is an Iranian news source

libertygrl
09-17-2012, 05:15 AM
I think it should be noted that PressTV is an Iranian news source

And your point is?

FrankRep
09-17-2012, 05:44 AM
I think it should be noted that PressTV is an Iranian news source
I think that it should be noted that Iran likes David Duke too.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-1CLCQQGeU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-1CLCQQGeU

RickyJ
09-17-2012, 06:37 AM
I think that it should be noted that Iran likes David Duke too.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-1CLCQQGeU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-1CLCQQGeU

There are a lot of people that like David Duke. The media will always say he is a racist because he was in the KKK when he was younger. Once a racist doesn't mean you are always a racist. He sees America's current problems very well and knows that the only way for America to have true freedom again is to strike at the root of the problem, and that problem is foreign interests having control over America. Until the Federal Reserve is abolished and dual citizens are thrown out then we are going to keep having problems. We should not allow any person that is a citizen of another country to also be a citizen of the USA. Allegiance to another nation is contrary to everything the founding fathers stood for and serves as spies in our midst. We don't want or need any dual Israeli or Mexican citizens in America.

pcosmar
09-17-2012, 07:57 AM
I think that it should be noted that Iran likes David Duke too.


I doubt "Iran" knows anything about him. I would guess that both these guys are getting air time there because they ARE NOT the Rothschild controlled Pro Zionists that they have been dealing with.
They likely don't care if we have a civil war or race war in this country as long as we are not bombing them.

libertygrl
09-17-2012, 10:35 AM
I doubt "Iran" knows anything about him. I would guess that both these guys are getting air time there because they ARE NOT the Rothschild controlled Pro Zionists that they have been dealing with.
They likely don't care if we have a civil war or race war in this country as long as we are not bombing them.

From what I understand, Miller is a filmmaker and had a film in the Iranian Film Festival.

DavidK
09-17-2012, 10:39 AM
Jesse Ventura 2016 or Ron Paul 2016 (idc about age) -- all I have to say.

The Dude
09-17-2012, 10:49 AM
Seriously? Didn't expect to see a post supporting the Third Position party on a liberty forum. This is a nationalist, Nazi-like party. Only thing in common with us is a non-interventionist foreign policy but that comes from a fear and dislike of foreigners rather than the principle of non-aggression for us.

Feeding the Abscess
09-17-2012, 11:20 AM
There are a lot of people that like David Duke. The media will always say he is a racist because he was in the KKK when he was younger. Once a racist doesn't mean you are always a racist. He sees America's current problems very well and knows that the only way for America to have true freedom again is to strike at the root of the problem, and that problem is foreign interests having control over America. Until the Federal Reserve is abolished and dual citizens are thrown out then we are going to keep having problems. We should not allow any person that is a citizen of another country to also be a citizen of the USA. Allegiance to another nation is contrary to everything the founding fathers stood for and serves as spies in our midst. We don't want or need any dual Israeli or Mexican citizens in America.

No, Duke is still racist.

And a government that has the authority to restrict movement has the ability to commit other, equally horrible crimes against humanity.

GeorgiaAvenger
09-17-2012, 11:32 AM
When I saw his picture I thought, he looks like a white supremacist and Jew hater. Something about his face and his hair.

Sure enough I scroll down and there is the information.

I wish this movement would shy away from attacking zionism(yes, I know it isn't anti-semitism, but it is another country's issue) and connecting banks with Jews.

RickyJ
09-17-2012, 11:56 AM
No, Duke is still racist.


Because the media told you so? Do you have any proof that he is still a racist?

liveandletlive
09-21-2012, 11:54 AM
read a few trolls on the DP endorsing this guy (comments since deleted)....and i came here

LOL

libertariantexas
09-21-2012, 12:38 PM
Seriously?

A "white power" guy?

You've got to be kidding.