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green73
09-10-2012, 09:40 AM
Wenzel (http://www.economicpolicyjournal.com/2012/09/must-read-blockbuster-interview.html):


Do you think you know what happened during the Oklahoma City bombing?

Lew Rockwell has just completed an extremely important interview surrounding the bombing.

It will change your views on many fronts. This interview is going to go viral and it is here (http://lewrockwell.com/orig13/trentadue1.1.1.html).

tod evans
09-10-2012, 10:37 AM
Please read...........This shit's for real. :eek:

pcosmar
09-10-2012, 10:47 AM
Some of us have known,, Some will never believe anything but the Government version of events.

jkr
09-10-2012, 10:59 AM
BUMP

AuH20
09-10-2012, 11:01 AM
When Eric Holder is the head DA at the DOJ, you know how bad it is.

pcosmar
09-10-2012, 11:06 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZt4SACTIq8

AuH20
09-10-2012, 11:09 AM
The definition of National Security now includes mass murder, the manipulation of evidence and the framing of certain political groups.

tod evans
09-10-2012, 11:17 AM
Kenneth Michael Trentadue...

Google it yourself........

KingNothing
09-10-2012, 11:44 AM
Just an amazing, and sad, story. It's always warming to hear from Jesse Trentadue, though. He's definitely fighting the good fight.

EDIT: Since I first heard of this from Alex Jones a few years back, I've believed the OKC Bombing was a sting gone bad. When you consider the bombing in the light of Fast and Furious, The Sharp Dressed Man, the rest of PATCON, and what the Feds did to infiltrate and dissolve African American groups a generation or two ago, it seems self-evident. And this is coming from someone who genuinely dislikes Alex Jones.

pcosmar
09-10-2012, 12:04 PM
Just an amazing, and sad, story. It's always warming to hear from Jesse Trentadue, though. He's definitely fighting the good fight.

EDIT: Since I first heard of this from Alex Jones a few years back, I've believed the OKC Bombing was a sting gone bad. When you consider the bombing in the light of Fast and Furious, The Sharp Dressed Man, the rest of PATCON, and what the Feds did to infiltrate and dissolve African American groups a generation or two ago, it seems self-evident. And this is coming from someone who genuinely dislikes Alex Jones.

It really has nothing to do with Alex Jones,, other than that he has reported on it.
I watched it live, years ago.. and did not buy the bullshit. I had not even heard of AJ then.

Several others have reported on it over the years, 20/20 did some on it.

There are too many questions in the official story.

KingNothing
09-10-2012, 12:12 PM
There are too many questions in the official story.

"Too many questions," is a phrase that gives the official story too much credit. The official story is utter nonsense.

ghengis86
09-10-2012, 01:15 PM
I knew the rabbit hole was deep, but holy shit that's deep. And all with the gov's own records.

I would love to see this as a 2hr, prime time special on the MSM. Sadly, we get the Queen's Jubilee where the sheeple cheer the heir of the tyrant who the founders rebelled against.

We're soooooo screwed

AuH20
09-10-2012, 01:19 PM
I knew the rabbit hole was deep, but holy shit that's deep. And all with the gov's own records.

I would love to see this as a 2hr, prime time special on the MSM. Sadly, we get the Queen's Jubilee where the sheeple cheer the heir of the tyrant who the founders rebelled against.

We're soooooo screwed

Those nearby surveillance tapes will never be released by the "justice" system. There would far too much embarrassment if they showed 4 to 5 undercover FBI agents walking out of that Ryder Truck.

pcosmar
09-10-2012, 01:22 PM
Those nearby 7-11 surveillance tapes will never be released by the "justice" system. There would far too much embarrassment if they showed 4 to 5 undercover FBI agents walking out of that Ryder Truck.

Or a couple of known ATF pukes.

:(

ghengis86
09-10-2012, 02:17 PM
Or a couple of known ATF pukes.

:(

I wonder who lost their job for including "suspects" in the video transcript.

pcosmar
09-10-2012, 02:40 PM
I wonder who lost their job for including "suspects" in the video transcript.

Watch this,
http://archive.org/details/scm-22598-anoblelie-part1of2
http://archive.org/details/scm-22602-anoblelie-part2of2

pcosmar
09-10-2012, 05:47 PM
Bump to the top.
This is a must for understanding.

kathy88
09-10-2012, 06:14 PM
I haven't seen the above videos, and I'm not sure I really want to. *sigh* I'm going to bookmark it and watch it when I'm in a different frame of mind. Too much today. Too many senseless violent acts. Too many defending same. I say a thing on Farcebook yesterday, and I'm paraphrasing, something like.... "I'm having a difficult time balancing being informed with being sane."

That's me most days, lately.

HOLLYWOOD
09-10-2012, 06:30 PM
Kenneth Michael Trentadue...

Google it yourself........wow...
Trentadue family claims Department of Justice (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Department_of_Justice) attorneys have told them the federal government will never pay, no matter how many judgments the family wins... (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenneth_Michael_Trentadue#cite_note-9)Kenneth's brother, attorney Jesse Trentadue, maintains that Eric Holder (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Holder) was part of a conspiracy to cover-up Kenneth's alleged murder[14] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenneth_Michael_Trentadue#cite_note-13) and was opposed to Holder's nomination for the position of Attorney General.[15] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenneth_Michael_Trentadue#cite_note-14)

pcosmar
09-10-2012, 06:49 PM
I haven't seen the above videos, and I'm not sure I really want to. *sigh* I'm going to bookmark it and watch it when I'm in a different frame of mind. Too much today. Too many senseless violent acts. Too many defending same. I say a thing on Farcebook yesterday, and I'm paraphrasing, something like.... "I'm having a difficult time balancing being informed with being sane."

That's me most days, lately.

Sane is overrated.

There is nothing sane about this,, It is pure unimaginable evil.
It is our Government,, from the top down.

:(

The US Government Blew up a Daycare center,, and the rest of the building, Deliberatly and then covered it up. The media was fully complicit in the coverup.

That is a reality you need to understand.

AuH20
09-10-2012, 07:54 PM
Sane is overrated.

There is nothing sane about this,, It is pure unimaginable evil.
It is our Government,, from the top down.

:(

The US Government Blew up a Daycare center,, and the rest of the building, Deliberatly and then covered it up. The media was fully complicit in the coverup.

That is a reality you need to understand.

Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely. There is nothing complicated or conspiratorial about their motives.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DgXx_evi6Q

6:55 mark:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wqyckVGdPQ


Who wants to bet that Cheney or the elder Bush commanded Ashcroft to silence Nichols, so as to protect Clinton as well as their beloved agencies? It doesn't matter. Republican or Democrat.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/february2007/220207gaggednichols.htm

ghengis86
09-10-2012, 08:04 PM
pretty much...

the evil is right in front of our faces...and nobody seems to give a shit but us

AuH20
09-10-2012, 08:08 PM
pretty much...

the evil is right in front of our faces...and nobody seems to give a shit but us

Bill Clinton, a mass murdering scumbag, currently boasts a staggering 66% approval rating!!! It's like a bad dream or we're living in that John Carpenter movie They Live! And now he's dropping hints about his wife running in 2016 to really finish us off. It's bad enough that Obama's zombie administration is filled to the brim with criminals from Clinton's tenure.

pcosmar
09-10-2012, 08:11 PM
Bill Clinton, a mass murdering scumbag, currently boasts a staggering 66 approval rating!!! It's like a bad dream or we're living in that John Carpenter movie They Live! And now he's dropping hints about his wife running in 2016 to really finish us off. It's bad enough that Obama's zombie administration is filled to the brim with criminals from Clinton's tenure.

Bout the same as that "R" Party.
They have their own claims to fame.

fr33
09-10-2012, 08:12 PM
Subscribing to this thread. I hope to begin listening to all this tonight if I have time. I am skeptical but interested.

AuH20
09-10-2012, 08:14 PM
Bout the same as that "R" Party.
They have their own claims to fame.

Bill Clinton is basically the other Bush 'son.' They know each other going back to Mena. This relationship speaks volumes.

tod evans
09-10-2012, 08:17 PM
Subscribing to this thread. I hope to begin listening to all this tonight if I have time. I am skeptical but interested.

Skepticism is the only way to review all the evidence......

I'm certain you'll find the truth.

AuH20
09-10-2012, 08:22 PM
A primer for those not familiar with the OKC Bombings...

http://www.anoblelie.com/

Has anyone seen this film???? It is absolutely jaw dropping as opposed to the various 911 junk science docs. The inconsistencies and outright lies they discovered through firsthand as well as professional testimony is unbelievable. Just off the top of my head, I can remember the following:

- the ATF division stationed in the Alfred E. Murrah Building was contacted via beepers that fateful morning NOT TO REPORT to the office. Someone up the chain of command tipped them beforehand.

- Based on an affidavit, Jane Graham working in the HUD offices that morning saw a 3 man work crew (including foreign intelligence asset Andreas Strassmeier) wiring "small putty" (most likely C4) to support beams in the basement in the below-ground parking garage

- No Nitric Acid cloud followed the detonation of the ANFO (ammonium nitrate/fuel oil) bomb found in the Ryder Truck which is scientifically impossible per the explosives experts.

- Eyewitness testimony from several occupants who were inside the building who said that they felt rumbling tremors 8-12 seconds before the truck bomb was detonated. They even had time to sneak under nearby desks and tables before the ryder truck blast wave destroyed the windows.

- Concrete rebar supported columns located in the front facade were surgically sheared off, as opposed to being bent & torqued by an an exterior ANFO blast, indicating a strategically placed contact explosive.

Provocative Q/A session with the makers of the film:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=jcoKz29DTNE#!


Our lovable Mike Vandeboergh reached out to an old FBI friend who warned him about digging into PATCON, which Newsweek eventually diluted into mush, after receiving pressure from the top:

http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2011/11/ssi-exclusive-hiding-mass-murder-behind.html


Sources in advance of the story said that FBI was very afraid of this article. "They don't want PATCON mentioned," said one source. "Not ever, by anybody. Because it leads to OKBOMB (the FBI name for the Oklahoma City bombing case), Elohim City (Oklahoma, a Christian Identity community), (German undercover agent Andreas Carl) Strassmeier, the McVeigh-Strassmeier connection, the Aryan Republican Army, the whole shebang." A source out west told me that when he mentioned the name to a retired FBI agent, he was told to "stay away from that mess" for "PATCON will get you killed -- it's national security. "



There are many rumors and individual bits of fact that have drifted out about PATCON over the years -- Stories of FBI informants and undercover assets giving taxpayer-funded operational assistance -- including weapons, explosives and money -- to neoNazi and racist terrorists to cement their relationships with the criminals; Reports that an operation that began with real concerns about racist terrorist groups like The Order was expanded to include mere political opponents of the Clinton administration and the defensive-oriented constitutional militias; Reports of a similar operation called VAAPCON, "Violence Against Abortion Providers," using the same tactics; Reports that the Southern Poverty Law Center was hip-deep as a partner to the FBI in PATCON; Reports of FBI penetration of the news media, religious institutions and the ranks of politicians of both parties, who very usefully expanded the FBI's power and reach and who provided political cover when the curtain slipped. Oklahoma lawyer and journalist J.D. Cash once told me that "there isn't a neoNazi or racist group in the country that isn't operationally controlled by the FBI." Did that include the Aryan Republican Army and the Oklahoma City bombing? I asked. "Certainly," he replied. So, the prospect of a story in a major news magazine about PATCON must have given the FBI a severe case of the old rectal looseness.

fr33
09-10-2012, 09:22 PM
I listened to the first podcast posted. The Lew Rockwell interview. I've heard it before. I hope more of the following links and videos set out to prove the statements that man made. He made a lot of them.

dillo
09-10-2012, 11:19 PM
What did the government gain by blowing up the Murrah building?

NewRightLibertarian
09-10-2012, 11:44 PM
What did the government gain by blowing up the Murrah building?

Demonized their opposition & got the public's mind off of Clinton's various scandals

pcosmar
09-11-2012, 07:55 AM
Demonized their opposition & got the public's mind off of Clinton's various scandals

And they passed a lot of bad legislation behind it.

And effectively drove the Patriot Movement underground,, and stifled it's growth.

AuH20
09-11-2012, 08:56 AM
What did the government gain by blowing up the Murrah building?

Why did the SA burn down the Reichstag??? To demonize their communist rivals. By the same token, in 1995, the Clinton administration was reeling politically wise and the Whitewater scandal was looming overhead.

pcosmar
09-11-2012, 09:38 AM
Some directly related history,,


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poe1RWRav-4

VoluntaryAmerican
09-11-2012, 04:25 PM
bump.

mac_hine
09-11-2012, 04:39 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nM0asnCXD0

fr33
09-11-2012, 09:50 PM
The testimony sure is damning. I agree with any that are demanding the government release all documents about it so a new investigation can be started.