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JosephTheLibertarian
11-19-2007, 12:19 AM
How can there be free market currency when there is a government in existence? I ask because I prefer free market currency; I'd prefer voluntary contributions instead of taxes. Can you have free market currency and voluntary contributions to the state in the same time?

noxagol
11-19-2007, 12:38 AM
How can there be free market currency when there is a government in existence? I ask because I prefer free market currency; I'd prefer voluntary contributions instead of taxes. Can you have free market currency and voluntary contributions to the state in the same time?

You could have a free market currency if the government recognized legal tenders other than FRN's. And if you are concerned with equating values, does it matter what the value is if you are making a voluntary contribution to the state? Shouldn't the state be happy it is getting anything from you at all?

JosephTheLibertarian
11-19-2007, 12:39 AM
You could have a free market currency if the government recognized legal tenders other than FRN's. And if you are concerned with equating values, does it matter what the value is if you are making a voluntary contribution to the state? Shouldn't the state be happy it is getting anything from you at all?

I'm going to send the government some used condoms

noxagol
11-19-2007, 12:46 AM
I'm going to send the government some used condoms

And they should be happy you chose to donate, your uh ermm, yeah they should be happy you care enough to give them things!

JosephTheLibertarian
11-19-2007, 12:49 AM
lol

so the government would be participating in the economy?

noxagol
11-19-2007, 12:51 AM
lol

so the government would be participating in the economy?

sure why not, as long as they don't make it law that you can only buy from the government! on second thought, I cannot trust the government to not do this. Screw the government, let's live in organized anarchy.

JosephTheLibertarian
11-19-2007, 12:53 AM
sure why not, as long as they don't make it law that you can only buy from the government! on second thought, I cannot trust the government to not do this. Screw the government, let's live in organized anarchy.

organized anarchy? hmm. well, you just need to have the checks and balances. Education is key. Socialism is fashionable; capitalism is viewed as evil, even though what truly is evil is corporatism

noxagol
11-19-2007, 01:00 AM
organized anarchy? hmm. well, you just need to have the checks and balances. Education is key. Socialism is fashionable; capitalism is viewed as evil, even though what truly is evil is corporatism

Well, I point the to frontier west as an example of organized anarchy. I am reading "33 Questions About American History You're Not Suppose to Ask" by Thomas E. Woods, Jr. In this book, Woods states that the frontier west, despite the absence of formal government, was far safer and much freer than the "civilized" part of the nation. He states that during the gold rush, an event that without formal government would surely have caused chaos as you have many differing peoples gathering in one place, looking to get really rich, and have no interest in staying once they do, but instead they created what I have coined, "organized anarchy". He states that they created a system of recognizing claims and property rights as well as handling criminals and everything was done through voluntary agreements.

I think with further research that I could make a very strong argument for organized anarchy as being the best government for the rights of individuals, freedom, and safety.

fsk
11-19-2007, 11:22 AM
So noxagol has been converted to "agorism". Agorism is the best form of "organized anarchy" I've read about. Agorism outlines a specific strategy for defeating government.

Contrary to media lies, "organized anarchy" would not be a system of complete and total violence. It probably would work quite well.

I have more details on my blog.

JosephTheLibertarian
11-19-2007, 11:53 AM
uh right. off topic though. I think free market currency even beats a "hard currency" standard; anyone disagree?