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cindy25
09-05-2012, 02:53 AM
with Obama the SC becomes a socialist disaster (unless a Republican senate would refuse to confirm)
Obamacare stays,possibly forever

with Romney there could be war (but then again Romney did not mention Afghanistan in his speech, and seems to have little interest in foreign affairs)

Indy Vidual
09-05-2012, 03:07 AM
Scary Johnson :p

dbill27
09-05-2012, 03:12 AM
I am genunely concerned about obamacare. I actually think Romney if given the chance would repeal obamacare, not out of principle but because it's not all that popular with the general electorate and it would be his only chance to keep any sort of conservative base for re-election. Otherwise, between him and obama i think it's pretty much a wash. The only solid differences might be energy policy and supreme court nomnees. We see all the good that john roberts did with the supreme court and even a slightly better energy policy might get us gasoline at a nickel cheaper a gallon. I guess romney might be more of a warmonger, but Obama has proven he's more than willing to out neocon the neocons.

olehounddog
09-05-2012, 03:38 AM
Big or little evil is evil. What would the lesser of 2 bullies do? Punch you in the gut instead of the face? Kill you quickly instead of slowly?

bunklocoempire
09-05-2012, 03:42 AM
One means rifle and ammo prices might stabilize -but that also means more "Republicans" not acting like Republicans.

House majority with "Republican" administration? Yikes. :eek:

U.S. world policy is a wash. No difference whatsoever.

Grid lock is the best I can hope for while hoping for another shot in 2016. 4 years vs. 8 years of circling the drain...

At this point IMO, prepping for "plan B" has never been more important. :(

Know your neighbors.

Occam's Banana
09-05-2012, 04:17 AM
Thread needs to be fixed:
(1) change thread title to "who is the greater evil? Obama or Romney"
(2) add poll that allows multiple selections

Dianne
09-05-2012, 04:34 AM
Dems Drop 'God' From Party Platform...
Jerusalem: Pro-Israel Language Removed...
Endorse taxpayer-funded abortions...
DNC Video: 'The Government Is The Only Thing We All Belong To'...

An Obama second term will be a far worse nightmare than his first term was. The man has shredded the constitution, believes himself to be a dictator who can declare wars without going to Congress. Four more years of Janet Napolitano, four more years of Ben Bernanke, Eric Holder.

I'm reminded of Obama's off mic incident when he said to that Russian embassador words to the effect...... I will have more flexibility in my second term, when I'm not facing another election. Apparently he's been on good behavior during his first term... will hate to see what he's like on his final term.

Romney will take us to war overseas (that's for sure), Obama will take us to war in the United States.

helmuth_hubener
09-05-2012, 05:41 AM
The difference is within the level of random quantum effects. Indistinguishable.

Pyruuub
09-05-2012, 05:59 AM
No difference at all.

pcosmar
09-05-2012, 06:01 AM
with Obama the SC becomes a socialist disaster

With Romney it becomes a socialist disaster. What's the difference..
"D"s tend toward Social Communism.
"R"s tend toward Fascism.

Both are fully socialist,, giving only lip service to the Constitution,, while trashing it at every level.

Less evil?? I guess that depends on your pet issues.
I am expecting the Gray State.

July
09-05-2012, 06:04 AM
with Romney there could be war (but then again Romney did not mention Afghanistan in his speech, and seems to have little interest in foreign affairs)

I think Romney is not more likely to start another war than Obama. I don't think Romney is personally as bellicose as he appears to be. I remember when he admitted to supporting NDAA, he sort of winced with a guilty expression (which was interesting because he's typically so emotionless and robotic), as if even he himself knew it was wrong. However, that's little comfort when you look at his campaign and the administration he would be surrounded by. I do think those people would indeed push for more war, and more police state, and they would probably get their way. In the end, it's the same interests behind the scenes.

pochy1776
09-05-2012, 06:07 AM
Vote Pokemon Penguin or write in Ron Paul.

ronpaulfollower999
09-05-2012, 06:37 AM
I am genunely concerned about obamacare. I actually think Romney if given the chance would repeal obamacare, not out of principle but because it's not all that popular with the general electorate and it would be his only chance to keep any sort of conservative base for re-election. Otherwise, between him and obama i think it's pretty much a wash. The only solid differences might be energy policy and supreme court nomnees. We see all the good that john roberts did with the supreme court and even a slightly better energy policy might get us gasoline at a nickel cheaper a gallon. I guess romney might be more of a warmonger, but Obama has proven he's more than willing to out neocon the neocons.

http://www.humanevents.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/AP120628127157-620x413.jpg

Replace with what?

July
09-05-2012, 06:47 AM
Replace with what?

Romneycare I guess?

Rand is reportedly working on some kind of healthcare reform legislation, which remains to be seen...though there's no telling how successful he would be getting any support.

pcosmar
09-05-2012, 06:59 AM
Replace with what?

Republican Socialized Medicine.

Root
09-05-2012, 07:00 AM
Dems Drop 'God' From Party Platform...
Jerusalem: Pro-Israel Language Removed...
Endorse taxpayer-funded abortions...
DNC Video: 'The Government Is The Only Thing We All Belong To'...

An Obama second term will be a far worse nightmare than his first term was. The man has shredded the constitution, believes himself to be a dictator who can declare wars without going to Congress. Four more years of Janet Napolitano, four more years of Ben Bernanke, Eric Holder.

I'm reminded of Obama's off mic incident when he said to that Russian embassador words to the effect...... I will have more flexibility in my second term, when I'm not facing another election. Apparently he's been on good behavior during his first term... will hate to see what he's like on his final term.

Romney will take us to war overseas (that's for sure), Obama will take us to war in the United States.
Napolitano, Bernanke, Holder and the like are all just figureheads to implement the corrupt policies. Replacing them with new figureheads to do the same bidding matters not.


http://www.humanevents.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/AP120628127157-620x413.jpg

Replace with what?

Exactly. I personally don't think Romeny would do a damn thing about Obamacare if elected.

fr33
09-05-2012, 07:07 AM
The supreme court judge argument that Republicans use does not sway me. Reagan and the Bushes were not very good at picking SCOTUS.

Mitt Romney signed the Brady bill and the assault weapons ban. He actually confiscated guns. Obama has not done that.

Mitt Romney raised corporate taxes. Obama has not done that.

We already know they agree on every topic. Mitt might say he doesn't anymore but that's just because he wants to be elected. There is no reason to think either of these candidates are any better than the other.

AuH20
09-05-2012, 08:35 AM
Obama is the greater evil because he is so fiercely protected by the establishment and state-sponsored media. Technically, his approval numbers should be mired in the low 30s. Nevertheless, longterm I don't any real advantage with a Romney presidency. His administration doesn't project to really halt or even reverse the engineered slide.

The Gold Standard
09-05-2012, 08:56 AM
They are equally evil.

jbauer
09-05-2012, 09:26 AM
Obama is the greater evil because he is so fiercely protected by the establishment and state-sponsored media. Technically, his approval numbers should be mired in the low 30s. Nevertheless, longterm I don't any real advantage with a Romney presidency. His administration doesn't project to really halt or even reverse the engineered slide.

Rmoney is the greater evil because he is so fiercely protected by the establishment and state-sponsored media. Technically, his approval numbers should be mired in the low 30s. Nevertheless, longterm I don't any real advantage with a O-dumbo presidency. His administration doesn't project to really halt or even reverse the engineered slide.

jbauer
09-05-2012, 09:26 AM
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jbauer
09-05-2012, 09:48 AM
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Todd
09-05-2012, 10:06 AM
I'll argue that Obama is the lesser evil. With Romney every small government GOP weenie takes a nap for 4 to 8 years while the country sinks. At least with Obama you don't lie to yourself that he is going to reverse any federalism.

ZENemy
09-05-2012, 10:10 AM
How do we know? Romney is not IN office yet (or ever I hope), nobody could have possibly seen (even though he told us to our faces) how bad 0bama was going to be.

In my opinion, Romney will have the same exact agenda yet he will do it quieter and less in our face, this will lead everyone to think he is doing better when in fact, his administration will be better at hiding it.

The police state, TSA, Checkpoints, UN entanglement and other horrors are coming from a higher position then our president, NOTHING will change until WE the people change it like Iceland. :D

VBRonPaulFan
09-05-2012, 10:39 AM
They are the same, no difference.

Rmoney says he wishes to 'repeal and replace' obamacare. replace it with what? when a doctor cuts out a cancer, what does he replace it with?

also, voting for Rmoney on the supreme court issue is a non-starter for me now, after seeing Justice Roberts letting Obamacare stand. also, Rmoney is a freakin' liberal through and through. what makes you think he'll elect ANY kind of conservative justice? based on his past, he's much more likely to make a very similiar pick to say, Clinton.

when comparing Romney to Obama, if you think anything other than 'they're the same' - you are just kidding yourself. there is no lesser of the two evils here. there is just evil.

Jingles
09-05-2012, 10:46 AM
The only difference is the R or the D in front of their name's on the ballot.

pcosmar
09-05-2012, 10:52 AM
Relevant re post,


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=7PhLE_3G-lA

heavenlyboy34
09-05-2012, 10:58 AM
the devil you know > the devil you don't So, I pick the Bamster.

osan
09-05-2012, 11:04 AM
with Obama the SC becomes a socialist disaster (unless a Republican senate would refuse to confirm)
Obamacare stays,possibly forever

with Romney there could be war (but then again Romney did not mention Afghanistan in his speech, and seems to have little interest in foreign affairs)

Irrelevant question because each will screw the pants of what remains of freedom, albeit coming at us from slightly differing directions.

You can't be a little bit dead or pregnant. You either are or you are not.

Madison320
09-05-2012, 12:42 PM
I think Obama is clearly worse than Romney, but I'm hoping Obama gets re-elected. I believe a currency collapse is imminent and I'd rather have it blamed on socialism. Not that Romney is a capitalist, but that's the media impresssion.

HOLLYWOOD
09-05-2012, 01:11 PM
Before I VOTE... I woulld like to know who pushes their buttons.
http://darrengarnick.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/rockem-sockem-robots-obama-romney-2x.jpg%3Fw%3D608%26h%3D504


http://portland.indymedia.org/media/images/2012/08/417445.jpg

awake
09-05-2012, 01:20 PM
Who is the lesser of two evils? You need to be able to see the future for that answer...As presidents go, each one has generally out done his predecessors.

alucard13mmfmj
09-05-2012, 01:34 PM
Seeing how Romney threatened Ron... and treated Ron and his supporters/delegates with disrepect... I'd say Romney is very evil guy.

seyferjm
09-05-2012, 01:38 PM
Seeing how Romney threatened Ron... and treated Ron and his supporters/delegates with disrepect... I'd say Romney is very evil guy.

Yep, the RNC and the message from Doug Wead solidified my intentions of NOT voting for Romney. At this point, it is hard to imagine him actually being better.

presence
09-05-2012, 03:11 PM
In the future we could liquidate ourselves out of Obama. Romney on the otherhand could warmonger us straight into WWIII w/ Russia and Iran.

"US has a moral duty to block a nuclear Iran"
"Russia is our #1 Geopolitical foe"

yikes.

PaulConventionWV
09-05-2012, 03:34 PM
with Obama the SC becomes a socialist disaster (unless a Republican senate would refuse to confirm)
Obamacare stays,possibly forever

with Romney there could be war (but then again Romney did not mention Afghanistan in his speech, and seems to have little interest in foreign affairs)

No difference between the two. The supreme court line has been tramped out every four years. But in the end, they always use it again and the supreme court never changes.