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hrdman2luv
09-03-2012, 07:39 AM
I have a strong feeling that some within the OW movement is disgusted with the fascist in chief, Obama. Not to mention, scared to death at the thought of a President Romney. I share your concerns, whole heartedly. I think we can all agree that neither of the two are good for this country.
My apologies for not keep up with the OW movement. I don't know too much about what you were about. I do know, that you're pissed off at the government, Wall st. and the way they've tried to ruin this country. The (original)TeaParty, the Liberty movement and many independents may have gotten the wrong idea about the OW's. That's due to the media. Personally, I don't think that the majority of OW's are communist supporting people. Also, I don't think that a majority of OW's are welfare recipients or too lazy to work. I've come to the conclusion that anything the media says, I can believe just the opposite.
But, because of a few things the OW's can't deny, is the fact that the OW movement does have lazy welfare recipients who desecrate the American flag. Those kinds of things are not warranted. In fact, you all should've kicked those people to the curb. Especially "that guy" who went #2 on the flag.
That flag should've been waved in the faces of the Federal Reserve, Wall st., the police state perpetrating police and opposing government officials.

In short, we need like minded people who are fed up with the whole system and are willing to help fight this fight together. People that understand the government can fix many of the problems they created, but will never do so until they are replaced by fiscally conservatives who support the constitution.

The main reason why the constitution is so important to us Liberty supporters, is because we understand that the government messes up more than it fixes. We don't trust they ever will. And so if we elected people that supported the constitution, they wouldn't have the room to mess up anything else. It all boils down to trust. I dare say any of us "trust" the government to do anything right anymore.

I for one, understand that Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid etc etc, could work. It could be good programs that helped really needy people and wouldn't bankrupt this country. But the democrats & republicans alike, won't devise a solution to make those programs work. They will continue to rob us so they can rob the kitty and pay for things that most Americans have nothing to do with. Like more wars, corporate welfare, corporate subsidies, the military industrial complex, wars against countries that pose no threat to our national security etc etc.

In short, I believe that the Liberty movement, OW's, Libertarian Party and many within the Tea Party can and should come together and defeat this two party system. But we have to all be very diligent as to who we allow into this movement. That's what went wrong with the TeaParty. They allowed the RINO's into their movement which only hurt it's original intent. The same with the OW's allowing the unions to infiltrate their movement. Not that I'm against unions. But unions should have no roll in government. And the government should have no roll in unions.

BTW, I hope this didn't offend anyone. It's just my opinion.

nobody's_hero
09-03-2012, 07:41 AM
Are you talking about OWS? Occupation Wall Street?

hrdman2luv
09-03-2012, 08:06 AM
Are you talking about OWS? Occupation Wall Street?

Yes I am.

FrankRep
09-03-2012, 08:12 AM
Ask Occupy Wall Street to support Obama. I'd rather him get all the negative attention that comes with OWS.

hrdman2luv
09-03-2012, 08:20 AM
Ask Occupy Wall Street to support Obama. I'd rather him get all the negative attention that comes with OWS.

What good would that do? You know that the media only focused on the "bad OW's"........ Surely you don't believe the OW's are all just lazy socialist like the media portrays them do you?

Do you not realize that the Libertarian party has much of the same reputation as the OW's. Only because of the two parties collective bashing and the media. The media focuses on the bad OW's, same as they focus on the bad Libertarians. Which of the most part is just bad publicity. Nothing more. Nothing less.

But that's why I posted this as a warning. Because we could all support the decent minded OW's. And not the ones that want to crap on our flag.

Natural Citizen
09-03-2012, 09:57 AM
Meh - nevermind.

hrdman2luv
09-03-2012, 10:01 AM
I don't see the need to isolate ourselves from those within the OW movement, that are legitimately opposed to Obama and Romney.

If it's all a sham, then this post is irrelevant.

FrankRep
09-03-2012, 10:10 AM
I don't see the need to isolate ourselves from those within the OW movement, that are legitimately opposed to Obama and Romney.

If it's all a sham, then this post is irrelevant.

I don't see how "Occupying" results in any positive benefit for anyone except for the trash cleanup companies.

Cody1
09-03-2012, 10:18 AM
Every occupier I know is in love with Obama, they don't think our government is doing enough. Most already believe we live in some libertarian utopia where the goverment lets corporations run wild. What is the point to this thread?

nobody's_hero
09-03-2012, 10:43 AM
Every occupier I know is in love with Obama, they don't think our government is doing enough. Most already believe we live in some libertarian utopia where the goverment lets corporations run wild. What is the point to this thread?

I imagine that the 'matrix' is as hard to break on the left as it is on the right.

Let me interject here and say that at least two of the Ron Paul delegates at my district convention were participants in OWS. . Their chief reason for supporting Ron Paul was his consistency.

In fact, when it came time for the state convention, I carpooled with a (former) member of OWS to the state GOP convention in Columbus, GA. We were both alternates, only he got promoted to delegate while I remained an alternate seated in the nosebleed section. I did have the honor of watching him stand up (and get crushed, unfortunately) for common, non-partisan principles we all hold dear.

Imagine if my attitude had been, "You're not welcome here. Find your own transportation to the convention." :toady:

EDIT: Was it an isolated case? Perhaps. But it was a case nonetheless.

EDIT: #2: Not my video, but somewhere in this crowd is an OWS supporter against NDAA 1021. Somewhere behind the camera, is myself.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGzX6LcOmtY&feature=related

Natural Citizen
09-03-2012, 10:48 AM
Many theoretically support GJ as well. In fact we had folks occupying faithfully who were from the Constitution Party for months. Then they (some of them) jumped on the Paul bandwagon for a bit for whatever reason...now back to Obama.

One big old problem, reaction, solution situation if you ask me.

Romney needs a bad guy. Occupy was supposed to be it before Ron woke up a generation of critical thinkers. This is who the msm and Neocons propped up to be the opposition. Why let it be again the defacto third party speak? They'll never succeed in putting up a genuine opposition on platform. They're not supposed to. As I said, it's not why they were ...installed. Can't think of another word. Sorry.

sailingaway
09-03-2012, 10:51 AM
I don't see the need to isolate ourselves from those within the OW movement, that are legitimately opposed to Obama and Romney.

If it's all a sham, then this post is irrelevant.

OWS is like the early tea party, imho, there are all kinds of people in it, and we have a lot of cross over with some, in fact some belong here. I have cross over on twitter, and some of them were furious about what RNC was doing to our delegates. They are a large group and the people inside all have different motivations.

But this post should be in GP

pcosmar
09-03-2012, 11:16 AM
The Occupy movement was originally focused on the Federal Reserve,, and on Corporatism. And called out BOTH parties as corrupt.

The invitation (to join in protest) was was posted here FIRST,, and an open invitation of the web.
The first protest,, NO ONE SHOWED UP.

It was then that Adbusters joined,, and brought in a lot of folks.. And it grew. The "lefties" took it over because the liberty movement did not,

I remember because I was posting on it before Adbusters joined.

This is where it started.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7D6neBzTnOQ

Lucille
09-03-2012, 11:18 AM
Charlotte Protests Already Bigger Than in Tampa
http://reason.com/blog/2012/09/02/protests-in-charlotte-bigger-than-tampa

hrdman2luv
09-03-2012, 02:28 PM
With all the similarities between us the OW's, seems we could organize together.