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ChrisDixon
09-02-2012, 10:31 AM
Maine Ron Paul backers force vote to condemn national GOP and longtime state party leaders

http://bangordailynews.com/2012/09/02/politics/maine-gop-committee-votes-to-condemn-state-convention-challenge/


WATERVILLE, Maine — After a series of setbacks at the Republican National Convention last week in Tampa, Fla., the Ron Paul wing of Maine’s Republican Party gained a symbolic victory Saturday.

During a meeting from which the media was barred Saturday morning, the Maine Republican Party’s state committee passed four resolutions proposed prior to last month’s national convention by Paul supporters who are members of the state committee. The resolutions passed by wide margins Saturday, according to Jonathan Pfaff, a member of the state committee from Cumberland County, who helped draft the resolutions.

The first resolution denounces the Republican National Committee’s decision not to seat all 20 Maine delegates pledged to Paul, a libertarian-leaning U.S. representative from Texas. That decision, based on a report that portrayed the state convention in May as chaotic and riddled with credentialing errors, led the national committee to replace 10 Maine delegates committed to Paul with alternates who support GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney. In Tampa, Maine’s Ron Paul delegates protested that decision, then walked out of the convention.

The second resolution, which was amended to reflect the fact that it was considered after the national convention, condemns a challenge to the state convention delegate selection process filed by Romney supporters Jan Martens Staples and Peter Cianchette. Initially, the resolution included a demand that the challenge be withdrawn. The timing of Saturday’s meeting made that point moot.

The third resolution expressed no confidence in Staples’ ability to represent the Maine Republican Party in “a fair and professional manner” as national committeewoman for the Maine Republican Party. Delegates to the state convention in May voted to replace her with Ashley Ryan, who traveled to Tampa as a Paul delegate.

The fourth resolution asked Republican Party Chairman Charlie Webster to remove Staples immediately from the Maine GOP’s rules and bylaws committee. The state committee did not vote on a fifth resolution calling for Staples’ immediate resignation as state committeewoman, because she no longer serves in that role.

Staples attended Saturday’s meeting “prepared to answer any questions,” she said.

“I finally got up to make a few points,” she said, but after “five or six minutes,” it became clear to her that, while some people in the room were paying close attention to her, others “weren’t interested in listening.”

When Staples spoke to the committee Saturday, one member turned his back to her in protest, according to a state committee member who asked not to be identified.

Emphasizing that she filed the challenge as part of her responsibility as a member of the state party’s rules committee, Staples on Sunday morning described the personal nature of the resolutions as “sad more than anything else.”

She worried that the backlash against her and Cianchette for filing the challenge to what happened at the state convention signals a shift to a more rigid interpretation of “party unity” to one in which supporters of candidates who don’t prevail will turn on candidates who do.

“This contest was not about Romney versus Ron Paul,” Staples told the Bangor Daily News. “This is about preserving the integrity of the process so that when we take votes, whether winning or losing, we can move on knowing that it was done fairly and by the rules. I had a special obligation as a member of the rules committee to ensure that the rules be upheld. I would not put myself through this for personal reasons.”

Saturday’s votes come too late to satisfy the petitioners’ original intent.

In their July 30 call for a special meeting of the state committee, the petitioners asked Webster to convene a meeting to address the five resolutions on either Aug. 11 or Aug. 18, prior to the national convention. Webster told the Bangor Daily News on Friday that he did not believe he could gather a quorum on either of those dates. He called the state committee together for the special meeting on Saturday in compliance with party rules, even though the items to be considered would “no longer be pertinent,” according to Webster.

For Pfaff, though, Saturday’s votes matter because they place the state committee on record “that the state convention was run fairly and correctly.”

“The message that I wanted to get out is that the Maine Republican Party is open to everyone and that when you come to participate, your vote will matter,” Pfaff said Saturday. “A body of RNC officials from outside the state will not take away your representation.”

Saturday’s meeting was followed by a show of unity in which Paul supporters who had been at odds with party leaders went door-to-door with them to campaign for Waterville-area Republican legislative candidates.

“It’s time to move on and get Republican candidates elected,” Pfaff said.

For now, many members of a new wave of Maine conservatives motivated by Paul and tea party principles to become active in the Republican party seem inclined to stick with the GOP after being angered and frustrated by the events in Tampa last week.

Whether that conservative activism will redefine the party of moderates Olympia Snowe, Susan Collins and William Cohen remains to be seen. On Dec. 1, state committee members will meet to elect party officers, including a chairman, to two-year terms.

DGambler
09-02-2012, 10:38 AM
Doublethink hurts my head,ugh.

sailingaway
09-02-2012, 10:58 AM
FORCE vote? As in they had the votes to prevail and the sell out cheating state GOP Chair didn't like it?

ClydeCoulter
09-02-2012, 11:29 AM
FORCE vote? As in they had the votes to prevail and the sell out cheating state GOP Chair didn't like it?

Exactly. But the teleprompted "Ayes have it" was democracy at work /sarcasm

MozoVote
09-02-2012, 01:09 PM
People still post replies on these news stories about how Ron Paul supporters "hijacked" the state convention - by having more delegates there :rolleyes:

parocks
09-02-2012, 01:39 PM
we won all those votes yesterday. good stuff.

FSP-Rebel
09-02-2012, 01:59 PM
On Dec. 1, state committee members will meet to elect party officers, including a chairman, to two-year terms.
Mark your calendars Maine folk, it's payback time.

Starfield
09-02-2012, 02:53 PM
What happened at the Maine state convention? Can someone summarize? Was it by the book? Did the RNC ever point to any specific rule violations?

WhistlinDave
09-02-2012, 03:05 PM
People still post replies on these news stories about how Ron Paul supporters "hijacked" the state convention - by having more delegates there :rolleyes:

You mean they didn't speak Arabic and weren't wielding box cutters? I thought maybe they were, judging by how many news stories these days are calling Ron Paul an "insurgent candidate".

WhistlinDave
09-02-2012, 03:14 PM
What happened at the Maine state convention? Can someone summarize? Was it by the book? Did the RNC ever point to any specific rule violations?

The Romney people cheated and then tried to blame Ron Paul supporters for dragging out the convention for many extra hours when it was their cheating that caused the delays. Here are a few videos to help you understand what really happened there. It's my understanding the credentialing committee could not find any specific wrongdoing so they just refused to issue a ruling on the challenge. Then at the RNC in Tampa the resolution to unseat the delegates was decided in violation of rules of order; the "Nays" were at least as loud as the "ayes" and a roll call vote should've been held, with each vote counted, but it wasn't, and Priebus ignored objections and points of order from the floor. He declared "the Ayes have it." (Just like what Boehner did on the other vote to change the rules, where we have video of the teleprompter saying the "ayes" have it before the "nays" were even done speaking their "nay"s.) This is my understanding of what happened in Maine and later at the RNC, if I got it wrong (anybody) please feel free to correct me... Thanks.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcgOuuM1VkM


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDsmc3K7bOY


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcqbSCsVtuw

MozoVote
09-02-2012, 08:15 PM
Article on the Maine walkout in the Washington Times

http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/reawakening-liberty/2012/sep/2/real-story-behind-those-ron-paul-delegates-maine/

Here's a good talking point from Ashley Ryan



The contest was filed by current national committeewoman Jan Staples and Peter Cianchette, who was the Romney state director for Maine. Those are well-known Romney supporters. They filed the contest based on the claims that our state convention lacked credentialing and lacked security. The ironic thing about that is that Jan Staples is on the executive committee for the party, so it was her job to plan the state convention. So if there was lax credentialing or if there was lax security, that would have been her fault,” explained Ryan

CPUd
09-02-2012, 08:37 PM
http://i.imgur.com/dVFXo.jpg