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freedomordeath
08-31-2012, 03:34 PM
Had a great idea for the media. (I know I know, this is probably already being done, haven't researched this, but seems logical if not done already)

Many have said we need to wage war against the media, but have come unstuck as to how. Over time we know these things simply become co-opted, give it 5 years, 10 years 100 years these bastards eventually take things over.

The one thing I noticed is that the world powers are getting ready for TV + internet, with smart TVs and bandwidth getting better, internet TV is GOING TO BE A REALITY. They are cracking down hard going after pirate sites etc etc so they want the MSM to basically corner the internet market.

So we'll need to move fast and define what internet TV will be before NWO define it.

We defeat MSM by liberating the TV, be freeing TV by bringing the internet to the TV. WE LET THE FREE MARKET DECIDED WHAT NEWS THEY WANT TO WATCH. Not some govermnet regulated MSM BS.

The compter is personal, its very selfish, its something tailored to the individual.

A TV is social, its in the living room, family friends watch it.

What we need is a raw data protocol thats very basic, flexible and can be manipulated by programmers tailored specifically for the TV. This data protocol needs to be open sourced and under the free liscence. This protocol must be strict and automatically format for aspect ratios, resolution, header info on the packets so the TV can handle a remote control request (eg pause, rewind, selecting channels etc) ie all techanical aspects. also I favour the TV being dumb and the source being smart, because we don't want TV's getting taken over by hackers, malware, viruses etc. The data signal must be a feed that is technically interprted by the TV and displayed. Poeple want their TVs to be simple, so basically go to site a, if it is full of shit, then move to site b. You don't want the shit to be left behind in the form of viruses even when moving on.

When you get a website such as www. xxxxxxxxx.com, we change the ending to www. xxxxxxxxxxx.tv so websites with the .tv at the end will be assumed to have the protocol. ( not xxx porn for those with dirty minds;) )

Now lets have a scnerio where we have MATLARSON10 set up a website with www. matlarson.tv, you enter this on your TV and low and behold you see his 3min clip. Now if he only had the 3min clip and he scheduled it at 3pm, then the clip will play exactly at 3pm for a 3min duration. For the rest of the time the protocol would full the empty space with a default test pattern or MattLarson could use a static picture with some music or he could have it loop the same 3min clip over and over for the full 24hours or longer. See how this works, you enter the site name and wholla up pops Matlarson10 in perfect format.

Scenario 2, Matlarson decides his 3min clip is not enough content and then invites others to full the rest of the slots up and before you know it there is a 24hour channel.

Scenario 3, MatLarson decides he doesn't want to simply have a channel, so when you point to his www. matlarson10.tv site, you have a number of channels to choose with progams in a scheduled time slots and can choose like any normal TV what you want to watch.

Scenario 4, MatLarson to fund his operation decides to charge subscription fees and those that want no adverts simply pay a premium and those that want to pay less can pay a sliding scale to totally free if they decide to put up with adverts.

Scenario 5, MatLarson decided to become the google of .tv land and you can search content providors on his search engine.

Some might even allow you to tailour your schedule with the content you want on your PC, then when you sit down and watch TV.. wholla the schedule is as you pre-tailored it.

Now many will say they want it to be content driven, but as Ford said, if you asked poeple what they wanted, they would say they wanted a faster horse. So I'm a fan of channels, on the channel you can have ads promoting progamming that poeple would normally not watch.

What we need to do is suggest this on Ubuntu forums for those that are techys and get them to get going on this protocol. I think we are at the point where TVs can plug stright into a broadband connection with a RJ45 connector.

What I think would be way better is have a torrent type set up, but this goes way over my intellegence levels. the thinking is the government can shut down data centres, but torrents work with all the computers as the network so a government would have to shut everyone's PC down which is very hard to do so basically you could keep content going in a government crack down. Read up on bitcoin.

So the answer is to free the TV from the MSM stranglehold.

tangent4ronpaul
09-02-2012, 10:07 AM
Check out Liveu

LiveU Puts the Power of a News Van in Your Backpack
http://singularityhub.com/2010/02/08/liveu-puts-the-power-of-a-news-van-in-your-backpack-video/

The backpack was part of an uplink system developed by LiveU. Instead of an entire news van, there’s just a box in a bag. It’s an amazing bit of technology that uses 3G, 4G, and WiFi to provide upload streams between 1 and 2 Mbps. That’s broadcast TV quality without any wires. Just plug any video camera into the backpack and you’re practically ready to go. The system sets up in one minute, goes anywhere anytime, and can stay on the move.
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LiveU’s LU-30 transmitter (the box in the bag) uses six mobile phone cards to upload its video stream. In the US, that means two cards apiece for Sprint, AT&T, and Verizon. The LU-30 constantly measures the speed of each connection and dynamically varies their datastreams to maintain a constant speed of either 1 or 2 Mbps. In the presence of WiFi, the LU-30 will automatically shunt over an appropriate amount of bandwidth (0-100%), and there’s even an Ethernet option for those times when going wired is preferable.

When I first got interested in LiveU, I thought that this might be something that Singularity Hub could casually pick up for fun. It’s not. While the LU-30 is cheaper than a news van, it’s still expensive enough to merit a major investment for an internet news channel. According to the New Jersey office, a 1 Mbps uplink (internet video quality) will cost around $1500 a month with a mandatory one year contract ($18k total). 2 Mbps (broadcast TV quality) costs around $2500 a month ($30k/year). For those prices you get a LU-30 transmitter and 30 hours of connectivity per month. Additional use costs $3/min though there are package deals if you buy ahead of time (a total of 50 hours at 2 Mbps is around $3k per month). A receiver (basically a PC server) can be purchased for a one time price of around $1000. All of these costs are a pittance compared to the money you’d spend on a traditional system, but they aren’t trivial.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdfZdvyAg0Y&feature=player_embedded

http://www.livestream.com/platform/livepack

This is a service that broadcasts your stream using this equipment.
http://www.livestream.com/platform/livepack

Important : The LiveU device is restricted to 1Mbps uplink bandwidth.
Important : The LiveU device is restricted to be used only with the Livestream Platform. No LiveU Server software is provided.
Month-to-month rental (no commitment) $2,500/month + $2,500 deposit and $800 handling fee.
Yearly rental (12 month commitment) $1,500/month + $1,500 deposit and $800 handling fee.
For use with Livestream Premium Platform only.
Includes 30 hours of streaming uplink time per month - all 3G telecom charges included.

The above was with a service that webcasts for you. The first thing was the basic kit where you provide the server and there is a box to interface to it, as is everything below:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KI15GsXRa_U

case study by a TV station:
http://www.liveu.tv/Pages/FileManager/FileManager/UserFiles/RightStagesAssets/LiveU%20case%20study%20-%20ABC57%20%282012%29.pdf

http://www.liveu.tv/faq.html

I should note that the pricing quoted is for the LV30 which is their basic unit, they have better ones that cost more. But this is basically a TV station in a backpack...

http://www.liveu.tv/faq.html

I wouldn't be surprised if someone figured out how to homebrew one of these things by linking a bunch of 3G smartphones and adding a patch panel, but I haven't found anything on that yet.

There is also something called BGAN that will uplink to a sat.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broadband_Global_Area_Network

Didn't find much on sat broadcast costs, other than that basement variety AFAICT run arround $500,000 a year.

There is also a box called Roku that is fairly low costs and links your Internet to your TV for streaming media.
http://www.roku.com/

hope that helps,

-t

tangent4ronpaul
09-02-2012, 12:13 PM
This is a very interesting idea! At those rates it's like $50 a day for a 1 hour show every day. As costs drop, the more you buy, it would be interesting to see how much a 12-24hr a day channel would cost...

There was actually more discussion in another thread about this idea today in an unrelated thread than this thread has gotten.

-t

freedomordeath
09-02-2012, 12:34 PM
This is a very interesting idea! At those rates it's like $50 a day for a 1 hour show every day. As costs drop, the more you buy, it would be interesting to see how much a 12-24hr a day channel would cost...

There was actually more discussion in another thread about this idea today in an unrelated thread than this thread has gotten.

-t

please give link, maybe I can take my idea and put it there and we carry on discussion there so we keep it on same thread ;)

cheers for the videos on the livelink.

I knew this could happen, poeple want to point and shoot on their TVs, they don't want to mess around like on computers, thats why we need to develop a tv protocol for the internet that basically streams into the TV, poeple can either enter established popular sites that are set like regular TV schedules or for the more tech savy have an online configurable TV schedule, and when you switch the TV on, wholla it works like regular cable TV schedules.

tangent4ronpaul
09-02-2012, 12:48 PM
please give link, maybe I can take my idea and put it there and we carry on discussion there so we keep it on same thread ;)

cheers for the videos on the livelink.

I knew this could happen, poeple want to point and shoot on their TVs, they don't want to mess around like on computers, thats why we need to develop a tv protocol for the internet that basically streams into the TV, poeple can either enter established popular sites that are set like regular TV schedules or for the more tech savy have an online configurable TV schedule, and when you switch the TV on, wholla it works like regular cable TV schedules.

I don't remember which thread but you posted to it and included the link to your OP... that got me researching...

Live link is a streaming service. The basic kit has you doing the streaming or broadcasting yourself. They are different, but use part of the same equipment as a key component. The remote backpack/sat van in a box.

-t

CPUd
09-02-2012, 02:24 PM
The major obstacle for doing something like this is going to be the provider. For something like this to be successful, we don't want it at the mercy of the ISPs, and the companies who own the lines. Google is running fiber straight to peoples' houses in a couple test markets, to get around ISPs like Warner, Comcast, and companies like ATT and Sprint, who own a lot of the lines.

Something else that has gone quiet in recent years is the frequencies of the analog TV signals. At one time, Microsoft was looking into buying those frequencies- all the towers are still in place. With a set of 'rabbit ears', you could connect with speeds slightly lower than the average broadband connection.

idiom
09-02-2012, 06:36 PM
I have built over 30 real TV stations. Some for under $50k. I am currently building a regional sports network that will do over 700 OB's a year. Total outlay will be under $8 mil which is less than one traditional OB truck. It has a fantastically cool Internet basis which will be a world leader.

I haven't worked in the US market, but its easy enough.

Look into Protocols like Mheg 4/5, DVB-H, and DVB T2.

I would jump at the chance to build a political or regular news network in the U.S.

PM me if you have ideas, questions or have $10 million burning a hole in your pocket.