Virginia bus kidnapped

[Lightweis]

We are being steered away from the convention

[afwjam]

Are you on the bus? Who is steering?

[ShaneEnochs]

What?

[The Goat]

The SC delegate bus is lost too.

[zachrbroussard]

O.O What?! Moar info!

[acptulsa]

You in Tampa? Being steered astray by a traffic cop or the TSA or someone?

Details, please!

[kathy88]

You have got to be fucking kidding me

[RickyJ]

Kidnapped by who?

[DEGuy]

I really hope this is a mistake and not something more sinister. Keep us updated please!

[Tunink]

Please continue to update us as to what's going on. Is the driver simply lost or ???

[affa]

this is how bad it is. this is how sick and twisted the power brokers are.

[SchleckBros]

@IowaGOP delegation bus is 30 min late for @GOPconvention. Have to drive or will miss Rules Committee. #tcot

[zachrbroussard]

MOAR!

[sailingaway]

RT this if you have an account! VA is one of the strong states AGAINST THE RULES CHANGES!

[cajuncocoa]

WTF??

[RickyJ]

this is how bad it is. this is how sick and twisted the power brokers are.

Just like the lost votes in Iowa, now we have lost delegates. Unbelievable!

[kathy88]

Those bastards.

[Anti Federalist]

Yah, I'm gonna vote GOP in the fall, cos Obama and doze demycrats is evil!

FFS...smh

[jbauer]

Who provides the busses? If the GOP provides the busses they need to wait until the busses are there to vote.

This election is the making of one hell of a conspiracy movie collection

[sailingaway]

BLACKWELL is on that bus and he is the rally point for the rules change, does Dr Paul know?

[Cshelton21]

Is Blackwell for or against the rule change. sorry I have no clue who he is.

[ZENemy]

Must be going to the same place that VAN full of votes from Iowa went?

[Cowlesy]

Are you being steered away from the convention, or is the bus-driver having a hard time finding a place to park.

[sailingaway]

Who provides the busses? If the GOP provides the busses they need to wait until the busses are there to vote.

This election is the making of one hell of a conspiracy movie collection

the RNC and don't bet on it, they are being driven AWAY from the RNC with the guy in it (Blackwell) who is the figure for opposition to the rules rallying the different factions. Ron is CAPABLE but in this case too identified with a particular element of the split.

[zachrbroussard]

Info!! More info!

[acptulsa]

This is a lot of assumption to base on one brief and un-specific post...

[sailingaway]

Are you being steered away from the convention, or is the bus-driver having a hard time finding a place to park.

as I understand there is a drop off area, the buses don't park there.

[Elwar]

I will get in my truck and pick up any lost delegates and get them to the convention right now if needed. Pack them in the bed if necessary.

[sailingaway]

You have got to be fucking kidding me

they removed two rules members to not have 25% to support minority report, now rules have to rise or fall - not the deal votes were counted on. Wonder what charges they found to remove the two rules members?

[sailingaway]

This is a lot of assumption to base on one brief and un-specific post...

not all that much if you know what is going on, besides there is some confirmation of sorts:

Timothy P Carney ‏@TPCarney
Entire Va. Delegation is on a bus. Blackwell is missing the Rules hearing. "This is not good. Not good at all" Blackwell tells me by phone.
Retweeted by Michelle Malkin

[phill4paul]

as I understand there is a drop off area, the buses don't park there.

I'm having a hard time believing this post. These routes would be well known by drivers. I am sure that there would even be police escorts given the atmosphere down there. However, I don't discount anything. I would like to hear further confirmation.

[Valli6]

From the Daily Paul

The Virginia and Rhode Island delegations are apparently being blocked from entering the Republican National Convention. They're keeping us all on a bus and not allowing us in the security perimeter.

Please share this news with your friends.

-Chris Stearns, Delegate from Virginia on the bus.

http://www.dailypaul.com/251570/va-delegation-bus-being-redirected-away-from-convention-to-prevent-them-from-voting-against-rules-committee-power-grab#new

[sailingaway]

Is Blackwell for or against the rule change. sorry I have no clue who he is.

he is for the minority report and rallied other conservatives who might find Ron too divisive at this moment. He worked for Reagan.

[phill4paul]

From the Daily Paul

http://www.dailypaul.com/251570/va-delegation-bus-being-redirected-away-from-convention-to-prevent-them-from-voting-against-rules-committee-power-grab#new

Wow. Start getting the news to those inside the center.

[Elwar]

I'm having a hard time believing this post. These routes would be well known by drivers. I am sure that there would even be police escorts given the atmosphere down there. However, I don't discount anything. I would like to hear further confirmation.

I have seen several police escorting buses over the weekend.

[KingNothing]

I'm having a hard time believing this post. These routes would be well known by drivers. I am sure that there would even be police escorts given the atmosphere down there. However, I don't discount anything. I would like to hear further confirmation.


I HATE conspiracy theories. They're almost ALWAYS utter nonsense.

I believe this one, though. I think it's pretty clear that, one way or another, the Virginia delegation -along with other non-Establishment groups- are being locked out.

[Cowlesy]

Before I draw any conclusions, I'll wait to hear what Morton Blackwell has to say. He's been a key figure in this adoption of the Minority Report.

[pcosmar]

Can this info be spread to the Convention floor?

Can the brakes be put on the shenanigans,, or are there enough people there to make some noise about it?

[sailingaway]

Michelle Malkin ‏@michellemalkin
==>RT @DeanClancy: It's not over! The #RNCpowergrab fight will likely spill over onto the convention floor betw 3pm & 5pm today.

[sailingaway]

I HATE conspiracy theories. They're almost ALWAYS utter nonsense.

I believe this one, though. I think it's pretty clear that, one way or another, the Virginia delegation -along with other non-Establishment groups- are being locked out.

Our Minnesota delegates were given email notice to the wrong address for a CD convention. It wasn't a conspiracy, it was a notice to a wrong address. Call it what you like.

http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/562848_190877024378927_829538558_n.jpg

[acptulsa]

Wow. Start getting the news to those inside the center.

This. For starters.

Seriously. If you know anyone in that convention, text them or do what it takes to get the news into that hall. We need them to know their numbers are not complete, and why, so they can raise a stink. That's Job One.

And I mean NOW!

Later, we'll play this crap in public. Right now, though, this is ammo for our troops on the convention floor. Praise God and pass our people this ammo!

[Valli6]

from christopher stearns facebook
48 minutes ago:

The bus carrying the Virginia and Rhode Island delegations is being redirected away from the Times Forum - perhaps to keep Morton Blackwell from getting his word in on the Rules Committee.

Something smells fishy...

[DGambler]

The UStream guy is reporting it, so it's made it at least into the press area.

[Cowlesy]

It's fishy because Dave Weigel just tweeted that John Sununu shook Morton Blackwell's hand (Blackwell was defeated) remarking "well fought" after the rules committee meeting.

So....confused right now.

[Lucille]

I am in shock at how low these Stalinist goons will go. Truly, I am. I knew Romney and his gang would be bad, but I never dreamed that they'd pull this kind of shit.

When Romney loses (either the nom and, if not, absolutely the WH), he'll only have himself to blame for being such a megalomaniacal control freak cheat.

[sailingaway]

This. For starters.

Seriously. If you know anyone in that convention, text them or do what it takes to get the news into that hall. We need them to know their numbers are not complete, and why, so they can raise a stink. That's Job One.

And I mean NOW!

Later, we'll play this crap in public. Right now, though, this is ammo for our troops on the convention floor. Praise God and pass our people this ammo!

I texted it to one of our NV delegates and tweeted it to a delegate connected with the ustream (a few minutes ago)

[cajuncocoa]

@michellemalkin (https://twitter.com/michellemalkin) RT'd: Hoo-boy. RT @matthewhurtt (https://twitter.com/matthewhurtt) Morton [Blackwell] just confronted Sununu. Video later. | #RNCpowergrab (https://twitter.com/search/?src=hash&q=%23RNCpowergrab)

[Anti Federalist]

http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/562848_190877024378927_829538558_n.jpg

Love it.

[ZENemy]

I am in shock at how low these Stalinist goons will go. Truly, I am. I knew Romney and his gang would be bad, but I never dreamed that they'd pull this kind of shit.

When Romney loses (either the nom and, if not, absolutely the WH), he'll only have himself to blame for being such a megalomaniacal control freak cheat.

Indeed!!

Better then Obama my ass! just as bad in every way.

[cajuncocoa]

Our Minnesota delegates were given email notice to the wrong address for a CD convention. It wasn't a conspiracy, it was a notice to a wrong address. Call it what you like.

http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/562848_190877024378927_829538558_n.jpgYou must spread some Reputation around before giving it to sailingaway again.

[CaptUSA]

Well, the VA bus must have made it in then...

[jmdrake]

There's no such thing as conspiracies. There is only incompetence. This bus drive must be lost and/or his GPS is malfunctioning. /sarcasm.

[sailingaway]

Michelle Malkin ‏@michellemalkin
Hoo-boy. RT ‏@matthewhurtt Morton [Blackwell] just confronted Sununu. Video later. | #RNCpowergrab
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[sailingaway]

Michelle Malkin ‏@michellemalkin
Hoo-boy. RT @ZekeJMiller Update: Colorado delegate claiming they have the signatures to force a minority report on the floor! |#RNCpowergrab

[acptulsa]

Dear RNC: We wouldn't be this paranoid if you @#$%ers weren't out to get us.

[Cowlesy]

@michellemalkin (https://twitter.com/michellemalkin) RT'd: Hoo-boy. RT @matthewhurtt (https://twitter.com/matthewhurtt) Morton [Blackwell] just confronted Sununu. Video later. | #RNCpowergrab (https://twitter.com/search/?src=hash&q=%23RNCpowergrab)

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/330/832/9c6.gif

[donnay]

I just sent a text to a friend on the floor about this. I asked them to get this information out and make a huge stink over it.

[jdmyprez_deo_vindice]

ok so is this resolved or what? Do we have delegates lost in tampa or have they all arrived?

[KingNothing]

It's fishy because Dave Weigel just tweeted that John Sununu shook Morton Blackwell's hand (Blackwell was defeated) remarking "well fought" after the rules committee meeting.

So....confused right now.

Maybe I shouldn't have spoke so soon. It could be that the lunatic fringe in our movement invented a course of events that didn't really happen. It wouldn't be the first time.

[twomp]

I am in shock at how low these Stalinist goons will go. Truly, I am. I knew Romney and his gang would be bad, but I never dreamed that they'd pull this kind of shit.

When Romney loses (either the nom and, if not, absolutely the WH), he'll only have himself to blame for being such a megalomaniacal control freak cheat.

If they are doing this within the GOP with whom the majority ALREADY supports them. Image what they will do once they take over the White House....

[libertyjam]

Can this info be spread to the Convention floor?

Can the brakes be put on the shenanigans,, or are there enough people there to make some noise about it?

The word is getting to the convention floor, it was just mentioned on the live feed from the floor (non-msm) and I just saw one of the delegates on the floor right now tweet it.

[KingNothing]

There's no such thing as conspiracies. There is only incompetence. This bus drive must be lost and/or his GPS is malfunctioning. /sarcasm.

Well, if Blackwell confronted Sununu it does kinda cast some doubt on the notion that the bus carrying him is lost somewhere, wondering through Florida.

EDIT: I hope that our people weren't as brash with information as it seems, here. The credibility gap is already big enough.

[twomp]

Maybe I shouldn't have spoke so soon. It could be that the lunatic fringe in our movement invented a course of events that didn't really happen. It wouldn't be the first time.

You say this but there is a tweet that says this:


@michellemalkin RT'd: Hoo-boy. RT @matthewhurtt Morton [Blackwell] just confronted Sununu. Video later. | #RNCpowergrab

So he shakes his hand, then he confronts him as well? unless of course you consider Michelle Malkin a "lunatic fringe" member in our movement...

[affa]

I HATE conspiracy theories. They're almost ALWAYS utter nonsense.

Yea, because people never work together in secret. Ever. Not in the history of mankind.

[KingNothing]

You say this but there is a tweet that says this:



So he shakes his hand, then he confronts him as well? unless of course you consider Michelle Malkin a "lunatic fringe" member in our movement...

No, I just consider her an idiot. But that's neither here nor there. The point is, it's hard to shake the hand of a man at the convention when you're on a bus somewhere wondering the roads of florida.

[sailingaway]

One of our Nevada delegates texted me back that the Rhode Island seats are supposed to be behind NV, and they are still empty.

[pcosmar]

No, I just consider her an idiot. But that's neither here nor there. The point is, it's hard to shake the hand of a man at the convention when you're on a bus somewhere wondering the roads of florida.

And a tweet from malkin is hardly confirmation.. She is no friend of Liberty.

[kathy88]

Maybe I shouldn't have spoke so soon. It could be that the lunatic fringe in our movement invented a course of events that didn't really happen. It wouldn't be the first time.For the love of God please shut up.

[buddaroll]

http://t.co/UBbrHujz
Photo of Blackwell and the rules committee just as it adjourned

[Lightweis]

We missed the committee meetings and were railroaded.. Rules committee members arrived and the meeting was over.. Had to run 7 blocks

[KingNothing]

http://t.co/UBbrHujz
Photo of Blackwell and the rules committee just as it adjourned

Nah, he's on a bus somewhere.

[donnay]

Pledging allegiance... SIGH

[acptulsa]

We missed the committee meetings and were railroaded.. Rules committee members arrived and the meeting was over.. Had to run 7 blocks

Damnation.

Glad you made it in, and thanks for the update. Now if we can just get the Rhode Island delegation into the building...

[affa]

Maybe I shouldn't have spoke so soon. It could be that the lunatic fringe in our movement invented a course of events that didn't really happen. It wouldn't be the first time.

By continually insulting and ridiculing your fellow supporters at every single opportunity, you do far more harm to our cause then the most 'lunatic' supporter does.

[sailingaway]

Well, if Blackwell confronted Sununu it does kinda cast some doubt on the notion that the bus carrying him is lost somewhere, wondering through Florida.

EDIT: I hope that our people weren't as brash with information as it seems, here. The credibility gap is already big enough.

no, the information just came later. They WERE directed away, then they were not allowed to leave the bus or enter security during the rules committee vote on the rules, which Blackwell I'm pretty sure was supposed to speak on, wasn't he? In any event he was the one rallying support for the minority report. they also preemptively removed two people from the rules report with no cause that I am aware of and replaced them with Romney dels, which must have intimidated some of the others.

It isn't paranoia when they are shooting at you.

[KingNothing]

We missed the committee meetings and were railroaded.. Rules committee members arrived and the meeting was over.. Had to run 7 blocks

Wow. That is LAME. All snark aside, this is infuriating.

[sailingaway]

Nah, he's on a bus somewhere.

He was

that was WHY he confronted Sununu

[KingNothing]

By continually insulting and ridiculing your fellow supporters at every single opportunity, you do far more harm to our cause then the most 'lunatic' supporter does.

No I don't.

[pcosmar]

http://t.co/UBbrHujz
Photo of Blackwell and the rules committee just as it adjourned

Morton enters the adjourned Rules Committee meeting:

And that means? :confused:

He made it there,, after it was over..? what?

[sailingaway]

Wow. That is LAME. All snark aside, this is infuriating.

and quit with the anti-community snark when you have no inside info and others are repeating stuff from delegates and media there.

[twomp]

Nah, he's on a bus somewhere.

How do you know that didn't happen AFTER they adjourned??

[DGambler]

I'm so confused.

[sailingaway]

Morton enters the adjourned Rules Committee meeting:

And that means? :confused:

He made it there,, after it was over..? what?

there will be a battle on the floor. I hope they are so pissed they all vote to nominate Ron. If I were them, I would .... :p

[sailingaway]

How do you know that didn't happen AFTER they adjourned??

ignore it

I would have deleted it but I am texting delegates etc and don't have time to weed it.

[Lucille]

Timothy P Carney ‏@TPCarney
Dissidents, by rules, have until 3:47 to gather enough signatures on a minority report, that would then force a floor fight.
35m Timothy P Carney ‏@TPCarney
I spoke too soon. The dissidents are gathering signatures to force a floor vote on a minority report.
41m Timothy P Carney ‏@TPCarney
Adjourned.
42m Timothy P Carney ‏@TPCarney
78-14, compromise wins. There will be no floor fight.

https://twitter.com/TPCarney

[Valli6]

there will be a battle on the floor. I hope they are so pissed they all vote to nominate Ron. If I were them, I would .... :p
Will there?! Can they?!

[kathy88]

What was the exact nature of the compromise?

[sailingaway]

Will there?! Can they?!

I can't be certain, but I saw a tweet that after they called it a CO delegate was saying they had enough signatures to force a vote on the minority report.

[Tunink]

So they forced the compromise, and their won't be a floor fight?

[Lucille]

Follow Carney for updates on the rule change(s) issue:

Timothy P Carney ‏@TPCarney
Dissidents have not reached the 28-signature threshold on 2 minority reports. calling Rules Committe members.
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https://twitter.com/TPCarney

[sailingaway]

What was the exact nature of the compromise?
It left in RNC ability to change rules at whim, mid contest or whenever w/o a vote by state delegates as I understand it, it ONLY focused on the other rule.

[sailingaway]

Follow Carney for updates on the rule change(s) issue:

Timothy P Carney ‏@TPCarney
Dissidents have not reached the 28-signature threshold on 2 minority reports. calling Rules Committe members.
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https://twitter.com/TPCarney

they are probably on Rhode Island's bus

[cajuncocoa]

Maybe I shouldn't have spoke so soon. It could be that the lunatic fringe in our movement invented a course of events that didn't really happen. It wouldn't be the first time.Without this "lunatic fringe" element you speak of, there would be no r3volution, King of Nothing!

[Valli6]

Follow Carney for updates on the rule change(s) issue:

Timothy P Carney ‏@TPCarney
Dissidents have not reached the 28-signature threshold on 2 minority reports. calling Rules Committe members.
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https://twitter.com/TPCarney

Yes, he's following it.

Dissidents want a vote on the floor on del-selection rules. They need 25% of committee members to sign a minority report.

[affa]

No I don't.

Yes, you do. You go out of your way to insult people at every opportunity. You're no better than the press calling us 'insurgents' or 'loons', because you use worse language against your fellow supporters all the time.

[Lucille]

Timothy P Carney ‏@TPCarney
Word is one Minority Report has enough signatures. It's on Rule 12, allowing the party to change rules between conventions.

[KingNothing]

Yes, you do. You go out of your way to insult people at every opportunity. You're no better than the press calling us 'insurgents' or 'loons', because you use worse language against your fellow supporters all the time.

Yes I am.

[cajuncocoa]

@ZekeJMiller (https://twitter.com/ZekeJMiller)
Now told they have 28 signatures for Rule 16 minority report - enough to force it on the floor.

[cajuncocoa]

‏@TPCarney (https://twitter.com/TPCarney)
One dissident says both minority reports have sufficient signatures.

[Lightweis]

Here is what happened.. The bus was an hour late and we were on the bus for 2 hours.. They wouldn't let us off until we all walked to the front of the bus.. Morton and gentry missed the meeting and are in the process of trying to get together a minority report.. We are going to get crushed but will go down fighting..

[AmericasLastHope]

Florida RNC delegates are left at hotel

WESLEY CHAPEL, Fla. - Already banished some 45-minutes away from downtown Tampa, Florida delegates to the Republican National Convention were given another inconvenience: No buses.

Hillsborough county GOP chair Art Wood told ABC Action News that the RNC forgot to schedule transportation. Replacement buses were ordered, and the driver on one of those got lost on the way to the Tampa Bay Times Forum, adding to the delay.

Some delegates were an hour late to the start of the convention at 2:00 P.M. Others were more than 90 minutes late. One delegate said he stood in the heat sweating, wondering what was going on.

The RNC already punished Florida's GOP DELEGATION by reducing the number of delegates by half after Florida' s republican controlled legislature approved moving up Florida's primary date against the rules of the national party.

Read more: http://www.abcactionnews.com/dpp/news/region_tampa/florida-rnc-delegates-are-left-at-hotel#ixzz24s8WQRaS

http://www.abcactionnews.com/dpp/news/region_tampa/florida-rnc-delegates-are-left-at-hotel

[musicmax]

‏@TPCarney (https://twitter.com/TPCarney)
One dissident says both minority reports have sufficient signatures.

"Dissidents"? Is this Carney related to Jay Carney?

[erowe1]

Here is what happened.. The bus was an hour late and we were on the bus for 2 hours.. They wouldn't let us off until we all walked to the front of the bus.. Morton and gentry missed the meeting and are in the process of trying to get together a minority report.. We are going to get crushed but will go down fighting..

What's so hard about walking to the front of the bus?

[twomp]

Here is what happened.. The bus was an hour late and we were on the bus for 2 hours.. They wouldn't let us off until we all walked to the front of the bus.. Morton and gentry missed the meeting and are in the process of trying to get together a minority report.. We are going to get crushed but will go down fighting..

Definitely proud of you and ALL our delegates. All we can expect for you guys to do is to go down fighting! Good job and way to represent us all!

[cajuncocoa]

@ZekeJMiller (https://twitter.com/ZekeJMiller)
.@DrewMcKissick (https://twitter.com/DrewMcKissick) says he submitted the minority report at 3:44 by email.

[FindLiberty]

Jack Traven says, "Get back on that bus and don't let the speed drop below 50 MPH..." (Movie: Speed '94)

I saw that movie: "Annie Porter (Sandra Bullock (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/wiki/Sandra_Bullock)), takes over as Sam is cared for and Jack restrains the paranoid passenger and informs the rest of the situation. With advice from the police, Harry has Annie drive the bus off the busy freeway, through city streets, and eventually onto an incomplete freeway devoid of traffic. The police soon arrive to escort the bus, while news helicopters fly overhead and report on the story."

Don't worry, Jack Traven (Keanu Reeves (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/wiki/Keanu_Reeves)) will save the day! The bus will arrive safely (probably later) so that Obama can be re-elected in November.

[DerailingDaTrain]

What's so hard about walking to the front of the bus?

I would also like to know the answer to this.

[Mini-Me]

I really hope all this comes back and bites Romney and the RNC in the ass bigtime.

[Expatriate]

//

[Lucille]

"Dissidents"? Is this Carney related to Jay Carney?

LOL... No. He's one of us. Ron wrote the forward of his book Obamanomics (http://www.amazon.com/Obamanomics-Bankrupting-Enriching-Corporate-Lobbyists/dp/1441732101).

[erowe1]

I would also like to know the answer to this.

And how do you get off a bus without walking to the front of it anyway?

[donnay]

Text from friend:

Virginia, Rhode Island and Iowa are being held hostage until the rules vote is over. Michigan, Oklahoma and Texas are supposed to walk out if Maine is not seated.

[moostraks]

why does none of this suprise me?

[sailingaway]

What's so hard about walking to the front of the bus?

that was after meeting missed and slows down exit. They only needed long enough to ram through the report.

[ShaneEnochs]

And how do you get off a bus without walking to the front of it anyway?

Maybe the driver wouldn't open the door for them?

[DanK22]

Just like when Sununu couldn't be found... Timothy P Carney ‏@TPCarney RNC rules require the petition to be "submitted ... In writing." AND Zeke Miller ‏@ZekeJMiller I’m told they are trying to email in the minority reports because they can’t find those individuals.

[sailingaway]

Text from friend:

Virginia, Rhode Island and Iowa are being held hostage until the rules vote is over. Michigan, Oklahoma and Texas are supposed to walk out if Maine is not seated.

Woot!

[RonRules]

Michigan, Oklahoma and Texas are supposed to walk out if Maine is not seated.

Michigan !? That's an amazing show of solidarity and it's going to create one BIG hole right in front of the floor in front of Romney.

[ShaneEnochs]

Text from friend:

Virginia, Rhode Island and Iowa are being held hostage until the rules vote is over. Michigan, Oklahoma and Texas are supposed to walk out if Maine is not seated.

Oh I hope they do. I hope other states follow suit.

[KingNothing]

And how do you get off a bus without walking to the front of it anyway?

Have you ever seen how mean a bus driver can look when they glare at you for standing?

[moostraks]

Timothy P Carney‏@TPCarney

RNC rules require the petition to be "submitted ... In writing."

[puppetmaster]

Can we at least cool it with this language, please? It's at least as bad as saying Bernanke is a traitor, and not just someone with a differing -and idiotic- opinion on monetary policy.

who cares?

[pcosmar]

Can we at least cool it with this language, please? It's at least as bad as saying Bernanke is a traitor, and not just someone with a differing -and idiotic- opinion on monetary policy.

Can we lose this troll for a while please.

[KingNothing]

Just like when Sununu couldn't be found... Timothy P Carney ‏@TPCarney RNC rules require the petition to be "submitted ... In writing." AND Zeke Miller ‏@ZekeJMiller I’m told they are trying to email in the minority reports because they can’t find those individuals.

This rules.


"You have to give it to me, IN WRITING!!! BUT FIRST...... HIDE AND SEEK!" These shenanigans would be hilarious if they didn't enable an atrocious establishment powergrab.

[Badger Paul]

You know for a convention which is supposed to be all about Romney/Ryan, they are truly demonstrating their fear of Ron Paul, the supposed man of the "fringe."

This does not sound to me like party confident in itself with this College Republican convention crap their pulling. Grow up Mr. Prebus!

[TheGrinch]

So stressed about all of this, but still have to LOL at the "I want you to want me" song choice...

And yes, the dancing is just nauseating....

(Edit: Oops, wrong thread)

[ninepointfive]

Holy crap - do we have any links to an article to post up? confirmed?

[KingNothing]

who cares?

Bombastic language and extraordinary claims, when not substantiated, create a credibility gap. It's something we should all consider.

[DGambler]

Bombastic language and extraordinary claims, when not substantiated, create a credibility gap. It's something we should all consider.

Watch the uStream, interviewed someone on the bus, he said it was "odd" as well...

[sailingaway]

Bombastic language and extraordinary claims, when not substantiated, create a credibility gap. It's something we should all consider.

except that in this case you'd have to be insanely credulous to think this WASN'T hostage, in the colloquial meaning of the word.

[Valli6]

Bombastic language and extraordinary claims, when not substantiated, create a credibility gap. It's something we should all consider.
Why are you on this thread?

[The Gold Standard]

Why are you on this thread?

To unite us behind Romney.

[KingNothing]

Why are you on this thread?

In an existentialist sense? Or what?

[musicmax]

Timothy P Carney‏@TPCarney

RNC rules require the petition to be "submitted ... In writing."

"In writing" doesn't mean "in person". EMail is "in writing". I could be "in person" and present something verbally and that's not "in writing".

[LostNFoundNTx]

Timothy P Carney‏@TPCarney

RNC rules require the petition to be "submitted ... In writing."

Apparently in other situations court cases have supported "in writing" as being fixed in words that cannot be altered, where electronic communication is sufficient unless specifically excluded.

[KingNothing]

To unite us behind Romney.

I hate Romney, and 100-percent of people named Willard.

[musicmax]

I hate Romney, and 100-percent of people named Willard.

http://a57.foxnews.com/global.fncstatic.com/static/managed/img/Entertainment/660/371/fred%2520willard%2520660%2520reuters.JPG

[buddaroll]

Have we gotten access to the Bus video yet?
Ben Swann is asking about it.

[Eleutheros]

I hate Romney, and 100-percent of people named Willard.

Including Will(ard) Smith, aka The Fresh Prince? ;)

[kathy88]

Bombastic language and extraordinary claims, when not substantiated, create a credibility gap. It's something we should all consider.Perhaps you would like to share with everyone the language YOU used in your rep comment to me you fucking hypocrite.

[KingNothing]

http://a57.foxnews.com/global.fncstatic.com/static/managed/img/Entertainment/660/371/fred%2520willard%2520660%2520reuters.JPG

FIRST NAME WILLARD! FIRST NAME WILLARD!

NOT LAST!

[KingNothing]

Perhaps you would like to share with everyone the language YOU used in your rep comment to me you fucking hypocrite.

And back to ignore you go!

[opal]

Did the bus fiasco ever get confirmed?

[acptulsa]

Did the bus fiasco ever get confirmed?

You didn't read the thread? The bus was not allowed to disembark passengers at the arena, and the delegates wound up running seven blocks to get to the hall. Among them was at least one member of the Rules Committee, who didn't get there in time to participate.

[Lightweis]

I was on the freaken bus. A federal agent would not let us off the bus. We were on the bus for over 2 hours and its a 25 minutes trip. Even Morton blackwell was held hostage. I have never seen anything like this before. It was a horrible day for our delegation. We went down fighting and caused mayhem during the voting process.

[Sematary]

I was on the freaken bus. A federal agent would not let us off the bus. We were on the bus for over 2 hours and its a 25 minutes trip. Even Morton blackwell was held hostage. I have never seen anything like this before. It was a horrible day for our delegation. We went down fighting and caused mayhem during the voting process.

Have any of you talked to reporters yet?

[Lightweis]

Not yet we were too busy trying to organize for the floor fight and shouting at the chair

[susano]

What was the result on the rule regarding who chooses the delegates? Sorry if this was implied but I'm not clear on it.

[CPUd]

I believe they rammed everything through. Priebus was too drunk to know the difference between yea and nay

[Aratus]

was part of this a paranoia over security?

[LibertyEagle]

I believe they rammed everything through. Priebus was too drunk to know the difference between yea and nay

I wonder how much liquor it takes to sell out your country?

[Aratus]

i think they took a 30 minute liquid dinner break after the voting... chairman boehner, even!

[amonasro]

Wow, I hadn't seen this. Absolutely insane. The GOP can go down in flames for all I care.

[Brian4Liberty]

I was on the freaken bus. A federal agent would not let us off the bus. We were on the bus for over 2 hours and its a 25 minutes trip. Even Morton blackwell was held hostage. I have never seen anything like this before. It was a horrible day for our delegation. We went down fighting and caused mayhem during the voting process.

Wow.

They wouldn't let you off of the bus? I'd be tempted to call 911 and report a kidnapping.

[susano]

I believe they rammed everything through. Priebus was too drunk to know the difference between yea and nay

I'm just a supporter and have never understood the game part of this but I've been sort of shocked watching the RP peeps get steamrolled so easily. That's not a criticism of the delegates, btw. It's just that the Republican party HATES RP, hates us, and they are firmly in control of the GOP. If they can shut out delegates, steal votes, dupe people into bus rides to nowhere, change rules whenever they feel like it, etc - and get away with it - AND have a few people hoping these fuckers win anything - it seems so misguided to be playing in their sandbox, imho. They are like Satan and the GOP is Hell and nobody is going to clean up Hell. This all reminds me of what the Democrats did to Ralph Nader. The two parties are evil to the core and the only way is AROUND them.

[amonasro]

I was impressed with their power too, and ability to get away with it. I think it's a reflection on a small but powerful group within the GOP, obviously backed by big money. I don't think many state GOPs are this corrupt.

[susano]

I was impressed with their power too, and ability to get away with it. I think it's a reflection on a small but powerful group within the GOP, obviously backed by big money. I don't think many state GOPs are this corrupt.

I think they are. That said, being smaller and not as well funded, state and local parties are the only levels where anything can happen.

I have a friend who is a common law expert who told me that to get your county constitutional, you need to get the sheriff, the DA and the registrar of deeds. I think that's the level this movement should be working on.

[ProBlue33]

I was on the freaken bus. A federal agent would not let us off the bus. We were on the bus for over 2 hours and its a 25 minutes trip. Even Morton blackwell was held hostage. I have never seen anything like this before. It was a horrible day for our delegation. We went down fighting and caused mayhem during the voting process.

The whole debacle of this process from primary to RNC has revealed corruption to an extent that few of us knew about, democracy at the federal level is dead.
It's just a show, for the public now.

[kathy88]

I was on the freaken bus. A federal agent would not let us off the bus. We were on the bus for over 2 hours and its a 25 minutes trip. Even Morton blackwell was held hostage. I have never seen anything like this before. It was a horrible day for our delegation. We went down fighting and caused mayhem during the voting process.Potential civil suit? Morton was prevented from voting by a federal official. Lots of laws against that.

[tod evans]

It's just a show, for the public now.

Now?

Has it ever been more?

[acptulsa]

Potential civil suit? Morton was prevented from voting by a federal official. Lots of laws against that.

It wasn't an election, it was a convention. Sounds like nitpicking, but we all come within a nitpick of doing illegal things every single day. I doubt there are as many laws against that as you think...

[cajuncocoa]

I would certainly consider suing the bus company... It shouldn't matter who was on the bus, what matters is they purposely made the delegates late... they were held against their will.

[HOLLYWOOD]

Those bastards.Who's in charge of convention transportation/RNC scheduling?

What did the bus drivers state? Were they told not deliver rules committee/delegates?

Get the facts... Get the names of the bus drivers and what they were told.

Start communicating better between delegate/states/ and here on RPF...

RU you also tweeting realtime of the Fraud and Corruption going on with the RNC?

[acptulsa]

I would certainly consider suing the bus company... It shouldn't matter who was on the bus, what matters is they purposely made the delegates late... they were held against their will.

The driver got the bus to the arena and opened the door. The rest was done by 'law enforcement officials'. The result? No grounds for a suit.

[cajuncocoa]

The driver got the bus to the arena and opened the door. The rest was done by 'law enforcement officials'. The result? No grounds for a suit.Didn't the driver purposely take them on a wild goose chase?

[Barrex]

The driver got the bus to the arena and opened the door. The rest was done by 'law enforcement officials'. The result? No grounds for a suit.

There are always grounds for a suit - my proffessor



If not RNC, bus company then someone else.... State myabe.... I dont know but there is always someone.


Based on previous experience nothing will happen.