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eleganz
08-28-2012, 07:50 AM
We are hand delivering letters to delegates letting them know they are not bound by GOP rules. Beleive me when i say The letters are WELL received and causing a huge controversy among delegates and the rnc isnt happy I can't say much but we the
Grassroots have a great plan and there is hope.

I'm on my phone so someone PLZ bump my last thread about today's event At 1pm

tod evans
08-28-2012, 07:52 AM
:D:D

georgiaboy
08-28-2012, 07:56 AM
+reputation point for you!

eleganz
08-28-2012, 08:31 AM
There are going to be tons of delegates at the convention and we intend to inform all of them

kathy88
08-28-2012, 08:32 AM
I got to read the letter. It was pretty freaking awesome.

ShaneEnochs
08-28-2012, 08:34 AM
I'm so freaking excited!!!

eleganz
08-28-2012, 08:38 AM
Surprisingly many of these delegates have an open mind we're taking this all the way and hitting from different angles

CaptUSA
08-28-2012, 08:42 AM
I'm so freaking excited!!!Temper your excitement, this is a Hail Mary. Pray for the best, but keep your expectations in check. We've got an opening here, but there's still a lot of hard work to be done.

eleganz
08-28-2012, 08:53 AM
Temper your excitement, this is a Hail Mary. Pray for the best, but keep your expectations in check. We've got an opening here, but there's still a lot of hard work to be done.

Exactly!

I
Just wanted to let you all know what was up and inspire grassroots action to the bitter end.

ClydeCoulter
08-28-2012, 08:57 AM
Exactly!

I
Just wanted to let you all know what was up and inspire grassroots action to the bitter end.

I hope the end is not bitter :)

CapitalistRadical
08-28-2012, 08:58 AM
They aren't bound by the GOP rules? What do you mean?

kill the banks
08-28-2012, 08:58 AM
hey good for you ... great to hear ... work work work it

Carehn
08-28-2012, 09:08 AM
I would like to read the letter. Could it be posted? Is it posted and could someone provide a link?

AmericasLastHope
08-28-2012, 09:19 AM
I would like to read the letter. Could it be posted? Is it posted and could someone provide a link?

Is this the one?

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Dear Fellow Delegate,

You have heard the growing controversy regarding a number of new power grabs in the Rules of the Republican Party as proposed for adoption in the report of the Convention Committee on Rules and Order of Business.

That committee report will be considered by the convention at today's afternoon session.

Do not be fooled into believing that a good "compromise" has been reached which is even near acceptable.

The Minority Reports are alive and well. Although ferocious efforts have been made to get Rules Committee members to withdraw their names from the Minority Reports, grassroots outrage actually persuaded additional Rules Committee members to sign onto the Minority Reports since the Rules Committee meeting last Friday.

The Rule 15 "compromise" affects only one of the three most damaging changes which the Minority Reports would correct. That is the proposal that presidential candidates would be given the power to disallow and remove delegates elected under state party rules or state law.

Unchanged in the "compromise" are the gutting of the currently-in-effect reforms which succeeded this year in stopping the trend toward a national presidential primary and the very worst change proposed in the national rules, the proposed new Rule 12, permitting the Republican National Committee to regularly amend the national party rules between the national conventions.

The Minority Reports would solve both problems.

Proponents of the "compromise" ignore the enormously destructive problem of the proposed Rule 12. Rule 12 would enable 75% of the Republican National Committee later to eliminate their "compromise" and to destroy or make drastic changes in dozens of other rules which have served our party well over the years.

In practice, Rule 12 would enable an RNC chairman to enact almost any rules change he or she desired, because an RNC chairman already has so much power and influence that he or she can almost always can get 75% or more of the RNC members to vote for or against anything. A chairman already has the enormous "power of the purse," and should not have also the power to change party rules at will.

There is already quite enough power flow from the top down in our party. Instead of approving more power grabs, we should be looking for ways for more power to flow from the bottom up. That's how to attract more participants into our party.

The media's picked up on this series of last-minute manipulations by D.C insiders and consultants, and I'm sure you've been bombarded with contacts from both sides.

The truth is, this isn’t a compromise. It’s far from it.

This is insider establishment politics at its worst – and they’re dealing furiously against grassroots conservatives like you and me.

And no change to Rule 15 will mean anything if a party chairman decides to use the powers given under a new Rule 12 that allows the RNC to change the Rules of the Republican Party between national conventions.

So I’m asking you to support the full Minority Reports on the Rules – and to not be fooled by any so-called “compromise.” I especially ask you to take a stand in your delegation for a roll call vote on the Minority Reports.

Cordially,

Morton Blackwell
National Committeeman, Virginia

sailingaway
08-28-2012, 09:22 AM
Temper your excitement, this is a Hail Mary. Pray for the best, but keep your expectations in check. We've got an opening here, but there's still a lot of hard work to be done.
not to mention these boards are monitored.

wgadget
08-28-2012, 09:22 AM
"The TRUTH will win." --Carol Paul

sailingaway
08-28-2012, 09:24 AM
The principle that it is ground up, not top down is the issue. The STATES decide if they want bound, how they want bound, and everything else for themselves. Only after they get here are they under RNC rules. Sliding away from that is incrementalism in the wrong direction. We will never turn things around if we only move in THEIR direction.

Having said that, in the end there has to be sufficient vote discipline to get something passed. AGAINST the rules is best, but the rules themselves are worst.

sailingaway
08-28-2012, 09:26 AM
They aren't bound by the GOP rules? What do you mean?

I presume they were referring to not YET being bound by PROSPECTIVE rules, but I'm just guessing

ClydeCoulter
08-28-2012, 09:30 AM
Also, delegates must be free to use knowlege, wisdom and understanding as well as their concience when voting.

As the process moves along, during the election season, new facts and other knowlege of candidates emerge. If a delegate is to be able to adjust with these new facts and knowlege they must be free to exercise their concience in light of those things.

How many delegates, non-Paul, are getting to now see the corruption from the Romney campaign and the RNC for the first time?

NorfolkPCSolutions
08-28-2012, 11:07 AM
To contribute: I echo LastHope's request for a copy of what is being given to delegates of all stripes. Can anyone confirm ALH's post as an authentic representation of this handout?

FSP-Rebel
08-28-2012, 11:13 AM
I give R-money and his ops credit for their sneaky attempt to pull a mea culpa on the delegates but did they honestly think they were covered and that a revolt from the roots wouldn't take place? That's where their egos got the best of them and it's great that we're using this to our advantage and uniting the conservative base away from the establishment and closer to ours.

rockandrollsouls
08-28-2012, 11:14 AM
This is what I wanted to see. F*ck Benton and the official, co-opted campaign for trying to nullify us. The perfect storm could be brewing.


Exactly!

I
Just wanted to let you all know what was up and inspire grassroots action to the bitter end.

pacelli
08-28-2012, 11:34 AM
FAUX news just showed Ron's security guy and the back of Ron Paul's head on the floor, Ron was waving to the crowd. Megyn Kelly just announced that Ron Paul entered the arena. "Chants for congressman paul" Hawaii delegation gave him a lei around his neck.

pacelli
08-28-2012, 11:34 AM
LMFAO this is greaT!!!!!!

pacelli
08-28-2012, 11:35 AM
Ron and Jesse are laughing with each other about something. Jesse Benton is right behind him.

opal
08-28-2012, 11:46 AM
is there a stream of this somewhere?

DGambler
08-28-2012, 11:48 AM
I'm following on twitter: https://twitter.com/#!/search/%23RonPaul

oddtodd
08-28-2012, 11:57 AM
just heard RON PAUL chants on CSPAN...