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presence
08-27-2012, 07:26 AM
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/08/24/camden-nj-to-reboot-police-department-by-new-year/?intcmp=trending



In the latest example of a cash-strapped municipality taking drastic measures to deal with swollen public sector liabilities and shrinking budgets, the city plans to disband its 460-member police department and replace it with a non-union “Metro Division” of the Camden County Police. Backers of the plan say it will save millions of dollars for taxpayers while ensuring public safety, but police unions say it is simply a way to get out of collective bargaining with the men and women in blue.

Camden is often considered amongst the top 5 most dangerous places to live in the US with one of the nations highest murder rates.

Some background on Camden:




Corruption is rampant, with three mayors sent to prison in a little more than two decades. Five police officers, two of whom are out on bail and three of whom have pleaded guilty, have been charged with planting evidence, making false arrests and trading drugs for information from prostitutes. County prosecutor Warren Faulk has had to drop charges against some 200 suspects, including some who'd spent years in prison, because of the misconduct. The city is dominated by an old-time party boss, George Norcross III. Although he does not live in Camden, his critics contend that he decides who runs for office and who does not, who gets city and state contracts and which projects get funded.
http://www.thenation.com/article/155801/city-ruins#



New Jersey's gun laws are not just absurdly restrictive, but the state is recognized nationwide as a "Beacon of Stupidity" when it comes to gun laws. Here are 12 shining examples:

http://www.pgnh.org/count_your_blessings_new_jersey_shows_how_bad_gun_ laws_can_be



“The premise of the Second Amendment, the need for minutemen, no longer exists.
In a free society we must rely on the police.
We have more important rights to fight for than the right to bear arms.”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1686059/posts


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Austrian Econ Disciple
08-27-2012, 07:31 AM
Good for them, but if they were really worried about all the violence, they would decriminalize all drugs. Let's only hope it means less cops. Less cops, less laws, = less violent society.

PaulConventionWV
08-27-2012, 07:47 AM
I'm not sure how I feel about this since they still have a "Metro Division" whatever that is. If they completely disbanded law enforcement, I would think it would help.

tod evans
08-27-2012, 07:59 AM
Take away all federal funding and let them sort out their own mess.

Peace&Freedom
08-27-2012, 09:08 AM
Break out the bat signal.

Keith and stuff
08-27-2012, 09:25 AM
It is nice to learn about this wonderful reform.

aGameOfThrones
08-27-2012, 11:36 AM
Break out the bat signal.

http://www.yourfunnystuff.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/batman-is-busy.jpg

donnay
08-27-2012, 11:37 AM
Probably the crime rate will go down now.

The Gold Standard
08-27-2012, 12:26 PM
Crime will not be affected. The reason they are crime ridden is because they deny their citizens the right to arm themselves. If that hasn't changed, violent crime rates won't either.

Cowlesy
08-27-2012, 12:48 PM
Chris Christie says this will result in a net increase in the police force, not actually a decrease.

pcosmar
08-27-2012, 12:58 PM
Chris Christie says this will result in a net increase in the police force, not actually a decrease.

Happened in Egypt. Except the police just dressed up as thugs and terrorized neighborhoods. folks formed neighborhood watches.. volunteers directed traffic,, etc.
Some even noticed they were safer without the goon squads.

A few cops stirring shit and provoking gangs and people here will call for more police.

CCTelander
08-27-2012, 07:43 PM
Crime-Ravaged Camden, N.J., Scraps Police Department To Save Money

Posted on Aug 27th 2012 11:51AM by Business Insider


By Abby Rogers

A New Jersey city that reported a murder rate of 46.8 per 100,000 people in 2010 is now without a police department.

Read the rest here:

http://m.aol.com/news/default/dlDetails.do?source=portal&link=http://jobs.aol.com/articles/2012/08/27/crime-ravaged-camden-nj-scraps-police-department-to-save-money/&prefTab=Today

RestoreTheRepublic
08-27-2012, 08:50 PM
Drove over the Ben Franklin Bridge into Camden from Philly once at night by accident...probably the scariest thing ever.

KCIndy
08-27-2012, 08:52 PM
I've been through Camden, New Jersey a number of times. I've even (shudder) picked up a few loads of freight in that blighted cesspool.

In all that time, I never even suspected they HAD a police force!

CCTelander
08-27-2012, 08:53 PM
Drove over the Ben Franklin Bridge into Camden from Philly once at night by accident...probably the scariest thing ever.


It'll probably be a bit LESS scary now that the organized crime element has been largely removed from the picture.

proudclod229
08-27-2012, 10:59 PM
It'll probably be a bit LESS scary now that the organized crime element has been largely removed from the picture.

Yeah, I can't imagine it getting any worse.

There are literally places you CAN'T go in Camden unless you live there, otherwise you'll get charged with "intent to buy controlled dangerous substance".

donnay
08-27-2012, 11:02 PM
I've been through Camden, New Jersey a number of times. I've even (shudder) picked up a few loads of freight in that blighted cesspool.

In all that time, I never even suspected they HAD a police force!

Really. Now the crime rate will go down.

CCTelander
08-27-2012, 11:05 PM
Really. Now the crime rate will go down.


Absolutely.

donnay
08-27-2012, 11:14 PM
Absolutely.

It cracks me up they put out news like this to scare people. The REAL thugs/gangs are the gun and badge brigades that prey on people. The gun and badge brigades are the ones who protect the Banksters, no the citizens.

idiom
08-27-2012, 11:14 PM
TIL: AOL.com is still a thing.


So, the head line is entirely misleading. The are transferring the union officers out to a local non-union force and using that to patrol instead.

Its just a union bust and it will save a tonne.

MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2
08-27-2012, 11:23 PM
Camden ain't scary. It wasn't 8 years ago, anyway. Granted, I was just passing through, working on gas stations and such.