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mac_hine
08-22-2012, 12:38 PM
In AF's thread about Ruby Ridge someone brought up the OKC bombing. Here is an interview with documentary filmmakers, Holland Vandennieuwenhof and James Lane. They discuss their film, "A Noble Lie: OKC 1995" http://www.anoblelie.com/

The interview is about an hour long. It's a great primer for those of us here who may not know all that much about our Government's involvement, and subsequent coverup in the bombing.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcoKz29DTNE


More on OKC:

253. Secret Police Murder and Cover-Up
Jesse Trentadue talks to Lew Rockwell about the torture-murder of his brother, Kenneth, the Oklahoma City Bombing, and a highly suspicious sting operation.
http://www.lewrockwell.com/lewrockwell-show/2012/02/07/253-secret-police-murder-and-cover-up/

donnay
08-22-2012, 12:46 PM
A Nobel Lie is an excellent documentary! +rep

mac_hine
08-22-2012, 12:54 PM
A Nobel Lie is an excellent documentary! +rep

I've been meaning to watch it, just haven't got around to it yet. The interview I posted just came out today. It was put out by the folks over at www.tragedyandhope.com
If you're unfamiliar with the website, I highly recommend checking it out. You can also subscribe to their podcast called The Peace Revolution, http://peacerevolution.podomatic.com/

It's been instrumental in helping me get to the root of the "philosophic corruption of reality" currently plaguing humanity.

Peace!

pcosmar
08-22-2012, 12:56 PM
These stories,,like most are not a single headline,, not a "stand alone" event in a vacuum.
They are interconnected and overlapping.. Many of the same players involved.
Much of the "news" sanitized.

These were an assault on the Patriot Movement,,and on the American people.

Travlyr
08-22-2012, 01:00 PM
Wow. Disarm the public and load up on hollow points for the Feds.
From the OP video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nM0asnCXD0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nM0asnCXD0

donnay
08-22-2012, 01:02 PM
These stories,,like most are not a single headline,, not a "stand alone" event in a vacuum.
They are interconnected and overlapping.. Many of the same players involved.
Much of the "news" sanitized.

These were an assault on the Patriot Movement,,and on the American people.



That is correct.


Most good militias went underground because of it.

donnay
08-22-2012, 01:03 PM
I've been meaning to watch it, just haven't got around to it yet. The interview I posted just came out today. It was put out by the folks over at www.tragedyandhope.com
If you're unfamiliar with the website, I highly recommend checking it out. You can also subscribe to their podcast called The Peace Revolution, http://peacerevolution.podomatic.com/

It's been instrumental in helping me get to the root of the "philosophic corruption of reality" currently plaguing humanity.

Peace!


Thanks! I will check it out.

mac_hine
08-22-2012, 01:08 PM
These stories,,like most are not a single headline,, not a "stand alone" event in a vacuum.
They are interconnected and overlapping.. Many of the same players involved.
Much of the "news" sanitized.

These were an assault on the Patriot Movement,,and on the American people.

It's taken me a long time to realize that. I was a teenager when Ruby Ridge/Waco/OKC happened. At the time, being naive and without the internet, I totally bought into the media's/Government's narrative. I never looked into these events until I later became a RP supporter 4 years ago. If it wasn't for RP, I probably would still be asleep.

When one finally takes that red pill and peers into the rabbit hole, it's like looking into a bottomless pit of evil.

Travlyr
08-22-2012, 02:42 PM
Before the Internet ... the truth was hard to find but we could always trust TV news, Reuters, AP and especially The New York Times to give us the scoop. :rolleyes:

donnay
08-22-2012, 02:48 PM
Before the Internet ... the truth was hard to find but we could always trust TV news, Reuters, AP and especially The New York Times to give us the scoop. :rolleyes:

Oh yes, definitely. LOL!


Before the internet there was bulletin boards and fax machines to disseminate information quickly. ;)

Danke
04-14-2015, 10:04 PM
https://www.corbettreport.com/interview-1026-chris-emery-on-the-real-timothy-mcveigh/

The Northbreather
04-14-2015, 10:24 PM
I really dig Richard Grove and the rest of the seekers over at Tragedy and Hope. I'll give it a watch for sure.

Thanks

invisible
04-14-2015, 10:27 PM
These stories,,like most are not a single headline,, not a "stand alone" event in a vacuum.
They are interconnected and overlapping.. Many of the same players involved.
Much of the "news" sanitized.

These were an assault on the Patriot Movement,,and on the American people.

And for those interested in this, look into Danny Casolaro and what he called "the octopus". Unfortunately, the information that I've seen online about this isn't anywhere near as in depth and extensive as an article I have in an old issue of CAQ. Even since that article was written about 20 years ago, the chain of events continues with the same players, and the same line of dots continues to connect to the present day.

The Northbreather
04-15-2015, 09:09 AM
Watched it. Well made, sad, alarming, at once.

Thor
04-15-2015, 11:43 AM
excellent movie... saw it years ago and was a real eye opener.

Danke
04-19-2015, 05:03 AM
Happy Anniversary!



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_-PMx65S3s

CPUd
04-19-2015, 08:55 AM
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?473165-The-Truth-Behind-The-OKC-Bombing

Christopher A. Brown
04-19-2015, 09:45 AM
It's taken me a long time to realize that. I was a teenager when Ruby Ridge/Waco/OKC happened. At the time, being naive and without the internet, I totally bought into the media's/Government's narrative. I never looked into these events until I later became a RP supporter 4 years ago. If it wasn't for RP, I probably would still be asleep.

When one finally takes that red pill and peers into the rabbit hole, it's like looking into a bottomless pit of evil.

Before the Internet ... the truth was hard to find but we could always trust TV news, Reuters, AP and especially The New York Times to give us the scoop. :rolleyes:

The internet is still a pit of misinformation, IF one does not use the litmus of accountability. Or, anything can be stated, BUT, can it be backed up?

There is a simple rule for the web:

That which is easy to find and easy to see has been made that way to decieve you.

Just like mass media, but you have options with the web, The catch to options is you have to learn them before you can research them to determine that the hard to find information, is actually the truth.

I have not seen the video but may try and find this thread later when on a laptop with wifi to check it out.

I have a great deal of info on the WTC, Twin Towers (http://algoxy.com/psych/9-11scenario.html), which is very well evidenced, independently, and had to confront extensively the misinformation and disinformation racket surrounding the "truth movement", which was one of those things created with money and power to make misinformation easy to find.

Near the beginning of that confrontation I took the opportunity to examine a lot of info that came up on OKC as a comparison. The capacity for a misinformation campaign was not well developed so what we saw was a fairly bare assed lie. Rather than the onion, or layer after layer associated with the WTC.

The one thing most reviews of OKC is its one most major impact, as far as I could tell; the availability of fertilizer, ammonium nitrate. Does the video mention that?

pcosmar
04-19-2015, 10:30 AM
The one thing most reviews of OKC is its one most major impact, as far as I could tell; the availability of fertilizer, ammonium nitrate. Does the video mention that?

Watch the video..

That is only one increase in Government control..

I remember this history..


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8HuIYJJRIo

phill4paul
04-19-2015, 01:49 PM
Why I don't believe the 9/11 whitewash job. Ruby Ridge, OKC, Waco, WTC 1993. There is a history of obfuscation of malfeasance by the shadow agencies. They did it it then. They are doing it now. They will continue until stopped.

juleswin
04-19-2015, 02:28 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7W6KlZd6Qic

More reason to doubt the official story.

mac_hine
04-19-2015, 04:09 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7W6KlZd6Qic

More reason to doubt the official story.

Was going to post that. +rep