Fred Reed on the surveillance grid and police state.

[Anti Federalist]

I'd disagree with Fred on just one thing:

A conspiracy can most certainly start or accelerate these things.




The Eye of Sauron
Something New Under the Sun

by Fred Reed

http://lewrockwell.com/reed/reed239.html

The pieces come together. Within the last week I have read:

1) New software, associated with Google, will recognize customers in stores so as to offer them discounts; having your photos uploaded to allow this service will (for now) be voluntary.

2) A new surveillance system in New York will store footage from cameras in, for example, the subway, so that when an unattended package is discovered, the police can look back in time to see who left it.

3) TSA is perfecting a laser that will allow detection on travelers of trace amounts of drugs, explosives, and doubtless a wide variety of other things.

4) The government is moving toward mandating black boxes on cars to record information thought to be useful in ascribing blame in crashes.


5) Various police departments are beginning to use “drone” aircraft to monitor the population.

These are recent pieces of the coming world. They have not yet all been completely deployed and linked. Some are voluntary, for the moment. Others are in development. All are coming.

Add the now-routine tracking of passports, cameras that read every passing license plate and record the time, NSA’s automated monitoring of email, Google’s and therefore the government’s knowledge of your searches, GPS tracking of cell phones, detailed records of bank transactions, and so on. Not all of these are instantly accessible by the police. They can easily be made accessible, and they move in that direction.

In short, the technology exists for a detailed, unblinking, unforgetting watchfulness of the entire population beyond anything imagined, or perhaps imaginable, a few decades ago. This is not Fred-drank-too-much-coffee. It is happening.

The capacity of hard drives is now essentially without limit, the power of computers to sort and search infinite, and the speed of the Internet no longer a bound. Almost microscopic cameras, wireless concealable microphones, face recognition, voice recognition, recording GPs: You can buy all of this in consumer stores. The government has far better.

People speak of the onrush of the police state. I think that many do not understand how fast it comes, or how thorough it will be.


The political framework falls rapidly into place. Few or no safeguards exist, and probably few are possible. A growing authoritarianism rapidly erodes what protections we had. The courts allow random searches of passengers of trains and subways without probable cause. Warrantless tapping of personal communications is rampant, or done with secret warrants from a secret federal judge. TSA has Viper squads that stop cars at random for searches. In many places it is against the law to video the police, who everywhere become more militarized and less accountable. For practical purposes, citizens have no recourse.

At a higher level of generality, America is no longer a democracy. If you think this a rash assertion, ask yourself whether you have the slightest influence over policies that matter to you. Suppose that you want to end the wars, shrink the military, end affirmative action, genuinely change education, or reform a hostile and unworkable bureaucracy. Who do you vote for? Important policies are made in faceless bureaucracies immune to public influence. National politics employs a sort of political price-fixing, in which you are permitted to choose among a number on indistinguishable candidates and told that you are having an election.

None of this is going to stop.

Why is it happening? Some suspect a vast conspiracy to Sovietize the country. I doubt it. Don’t look for a conspiracy when human nature is an adequate explanation. Presidents never want to suffer the restraints on constitutionality, the agonizing slowness of a congress that often has little understanding of the issues; if presidents can do things by fiat, or secretly, they will.


We have now had two consecutive presidents with less than normal respect for the constitution, one a brown Plantagenet but with little grounding in European civilization, the other a privileged rich brat of limited intellect and schooling. Such as they will take any shortcut they can get away with, and there is no longer anyone to tell them no.

Men grab power when they can. Once grabbed, it stays grabbed. A police operation like DHS will always try to grow. People in power always think they know best. When a federal department has money, industry rushes to sell it things. In the case of TSA, this means new and more advanced scanners, then upgrades, and maintenance contracts, training contracts, and then a new kind of scanner, and the process repeats.

The people doing all of this are not thinking of installing totalitarianism. They are thinking dollars, promotions, power, ego, and perks.

The FBI? NSA? Federal officials in general? They know best. They are, they think, just fighting crime, terrorism, maintaining national security, what have you, and the more power they have, they better they can do this. Further, intimidating people is pleasurable. If citizens have nothing to hide, say all these cops, they have nothing to fear. If you torture terrorists, or those you think may be terrorists, well, the real world is like that. Do you want more terrorism?

A conspiracy would be preferable. You can crush a conspiracy. Human nature, which inherently drifts toward corruption, is a far tougher nut.


What difference will it make to live in a country in which the government knows everything whatever about everybody, and few safeguards against abuse exist? For most people, at first, probably not much. At first. But for people the government doesn’t like, a lot. Reporters, writers, whistle-blowers, activists, dissidents.

And we are all vulnerable. Knowledge, as someone said, is power. Few of us have spotless lives, or want them. Did you once check into a cheap motel with someone else’s spouse or a lady of the night? What do the porn sites you visit say about you? If you are, say, a politician, do you want these things to come out? Have you written compromising emails about shady deductions on your taxes, or about your boss (“a weasely dickhead and probably a latent girly-boy”)? You have bar bills or liquor purchases of $300 a week? What if you show positive on a marijuana scan at the airport, which becomes justification for a full search of your house, or dismissal from work?

Things have already reached the point at which writers of my acquaintance, who do not have the power of the Washington Post behind them, have stopped criticizing the government. Whether they are in fact in any danger of persecution – I don’t think they much are yet – almost doesn’t matter. The mere knowledge that your email can be read is intimidating, like being closely followed by a police car even when you are doing nothing wrong. We are daily being followed by more police cars, both literal and figurative.

August 20, 2012

[kathy88]

Thanks for posting. Great read.

[Seraphim]

#4 is precisely why mandated auto insurance is a crime against humanity.

[Brian4Liberty]

...You have bar bills or liquor purchases of $300 a week? ...

Nice article.

Hmmm. Does Fred read RPF? ;)

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?385346-Beverages-and-More-(BevMo)-does-not-want-your-business

[Schifference]

Was involved in a thread a long time ago regarding technology. Most people thought that technology was great and would not live without it. I felt that one day it would end the need for human work. We have all seen or heard of old time shoot outs where the criminals were armed with automatic rifles and the cops were only packing pistols. Do you think that technology should be stifled now? Is it bad? In a hypothetical scenario where only good people were cops facing bad criminals, don't you think the police department should have technology to protect those hypothetical good cops from danger? Do you think all criminals are good and all cops are bad? If you lived in a bad neighborhood and could buy lightweight affordable body armor would you wear it? Do you have video surveillance around your home? Do you think we should do away with the police force? I have spent many hours watching video's of blatant police brutality and think the police are way out of hand. I think the government is corrupt and police are thugs. Maybe this will eventually come full circle and all this technology will hold the ones in power accountable or maybe not. But I don't think we can pick and choose or limit technological advancement. Angelatc quote from a self checkout thread. "OMG - that is sooo cool I can't stand it!!! Jewel Osco used to have a thing that let you checkout by fingerprint. It was awesome."

[Origanalist]

The Eye of Sauron. Apt title for a great article. Plus 1 to the OP and plus 100 if I could to the author.

[asurfaholic]

#4 is precisely why mandated auto insurance is a crime against humanity.

Can you expand on this a bit?

(still somewhat a newbie)

[Anti Federalist]

///

[Lucille]

I love Fred.

http://www.fredoneverything.net/

[mac_hine]

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-y7qv234hPgw/T_10DFMkepI/AAAAAAAAB1U/j-hpjfGhXKw/s1600/louis-ck.gif

How do we put a stop to this? Is it even possible at this point? If it ever gets to the point where the average apathetic citizen becomes aware and pissed off about the encroaching panopticon, which I highly doubt will happen, given the breadth of societal brainwashing, then what? My guess is that TPTB will stage another false flag, and the pissed off rabble will get back in line and willingly give up what little liberty we have left, or the authoritarian bastards will just say fuck it, and start basing skulls and begin shipping dissidents off to camps.

At this point, I don't see a way out. +rep to the op, but damn, this is depressing.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wat0Rsagb4

[DamianTV]

I've said this before. Dont worry about what is here NOW, worry about what is coming. Would anyone actually dare to put it beyond the sociopaths willingness to literally reprogram your brain if they could? Thats probably coming too, not if, but when.

[Seraphim]

Well #1 you have an entire industry whose revenue stream is garunteed through law (The State).

#2 - because their industry also has to pay out liability claims etc, it has incredible leverage over taxpayers...cuz ya know, we can't have unsafe conditions otherwise the industry goes bankrupt!! Then, queue the rationalizations for all the intrusions on people's lives and property....FOR ZA GRETA GUD!!

It's laced with moral hazard. I could go on forever, to be honest.


Can you expand on this a bit?

(still somewhat a newbie)

[Lucille]

"To be governed is to be kept in sight, inspected, spied upon, directed, law-driven, numbered, enrolled, indoctrinated, preached at, controlled, estimated, valued, censured, commanded, by creatures who have neither the right, nor the wisdom, nor the virtue to do so … "
--Pierre-Joseph Proudhon (http://the-classic-liberal.com/palm-vein-scan-school-lunch/)

Todd writes about a new palm vein scanner being implemented in a LA elementary school to "speed up the lunch line" and "reduce errors," and he included this quote from Fred's piece:


In short, the technology exists for a detailed, unblinking, unforgetting watchfulness of the entire population beyond anything imagined, or perhaps imaginable, a few decades ago … It is happening.

People speak of the onrush of the police state. I think that many do not understand how fast it comes, or how thorough it will be.

The political framework falls rapidly into place. Few or no safeguards exist, and probably few are possible. A growing authoritarianism rapidly erodes what protections we had. The courts allow random searches of passengers of trains and subways without probable cause. Warrantless tapping of personal communications is rampant, or done with secret warrants from a secret federal judge. TSA has Viper squads that stop cars at random for searches. In many places it is against the law to video the police, who everywhere become more militarized and less accountable. For practical purposes, citizens have no recourse.

We don't. And if we object, we're labeled extremists, and the authorities (and the dupes who cheer it on) wonder what we're so afraid of if we're not doing anything wrong.

[DamianTV]

"To be governed is to be kept in sight, inspected, spied upon, directed, law-driven, numbered, enrolled, indoctrinated, preached at, controlled, estimated, valued, censured, commanded, by creatures who have neither the right, nor the wisdom, nor the virtue to do so … "
--Pierre-Joseph Proudhon (http://the-classic-liberal.com/palm-vein-scan-school-lunch/)

Todd writes about a new palm vein scanner being implemented in a LA elementary school to "speed up the lunch line" and "reduce errors," and he included this quote from Fred's piece:



We don't. And if we object, we're labeled extremists, and the authorities (and the dupes who cheer it on) wonder what we're so afraid of if we're not doing anything wrong.

I think the real push is coming from the Marketers because of the way that the youth of this country has been coerced into thinking that Privacy stands in between them and getting some sort of good deal. This is a Marketers wet dream, and our Criminal Congress responds to the Bribes and Lobbyists. The entire FarceBook crowd will shun you if you refuse to put yourself up for sale on their favorite website. Congress wants nothing more than to use it to completely control you. Marketers want to know about everything you do so they can convince you to buy shit you dont need at prices you cant afford. It seems to me that everyone wants you to give up every aspect of your privacy. Everyone, except you.

[Lucille]

I think the real push is coming from the Marketers because of the way that the youth of this country has been coerced into thinking that Privacy stands in between them and getting some sort of good deal. This is a Marketers wet dream, and our Criminal Congress responds to the Bribes and Lobbyists. The entire FarceBook crowd will shun you if you refuse to put yourself up for sale on their favorite website. Congress wants nothing more than to use it to completely control you. Marketers want to know about everything you do so they can convince you to buy shit you dont need at prices you cant afford. It seems to me that everyone wants you to give up every aspect of your privacy. Everyone, except you.

Astute.


Finally comes the youngest generation of voters, the adult members of the MILLENNIAL GENERATION (born 1982-93, today age 18 to 29), comprising 18 percent of likely voters. (As yet, they have no national political leaders.) Twenty years ago, they were the special and fussed-over “Friends of Barney.” Today, they’re telling older Americans to share their toys and put a smile on their face. For Millennials, the team comes first: They are more likely than older voters to favor strong communities, urge consensus solutions, trust “big government,” and shrug at paranoia over privacy. With their trademark confidence, Millennials embrace many of the social trends (related to race, ethnicity, religion, homosexuality, and the Internet) that older voters find threatening. Millennials are the least likely to believe such trends undermine patriotism or family cohesion. They are the most likely to be optimistic about America’s long-term future (http://blog.lifecourse.com/2012/07/generations-and-the-2012-election-part-1/).

Boy, are they ever in for a rude awakening.

[mac_hine]

The new totalitarianism of surveillance technology
By Naomi Wolf Aug 15, 2012

A software engineer in my Facebook community wrote recently about his outrage that when he visited Disneyland, and went on a ride, the theme park offered him the photo of himself and his girlfriend to buy – with his credit card information already linked to it. He noted that he had never entered his name or information into anything at the theme park, or indicated that he wanted a photo, or alerted the humans at the ride to who he and his girlfriend were – so, he said, based on his professional experience, the system had to be using facial recognition technology. He had never signed an agreement allowing them to do so, and he declared that this use was illegal. He also claimed that Disney had recently shared data from facial-recognition technology with the United States military.

Yes, I know: it sounds like a paranoid rant.

Except that it turned out to be true. News21, supported by the Carnegie and Knight foundations, reports that Disney sites are indeed controlled by face-recognition technology, that the military is interested in the technology, and that the face-recognition contractor, Identix, has contracts with the US government – for technology that identifies individuals in a crowd.

Read more... http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/aug/15/new-totalitarianism-surveillance-technology

For more on tax exempt foundations, watch this:

Tax Exempt Foundations - G. Edward Griffin interviews Norman Dodd

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqyRAxW-uOg

[Anti Federalist]

But it's so convenient and time saving.

What have you got against progress?

I think you may be insane.

The government says people that think like you may be insane.

See Something, Say Something.



The new totalitarianism of surveillance technology
By Naomi Wolf Aug 15, 2012

A software engineer in my Facebook community wrote recently about his outrage that when he visited Disneyland, and went on a ride, the theme park offered him the photo of himself and his girlfriend to buy – with his credit card information already linked to it. He noted that he had never entered his name or information into anything at the theme park, or indicated that he wanted a photo, or alerted the humans at the ride to who he and his girlfriend were – so, he said, based on his professional experience, the system had to be using facial recognition technology. He had never signed an agreement allowing them to do so, and he declared that this use was illegal. He also claimed that Disney had recently shared data from facial-recognition technology with the United States military.

Yes, I know: it sounds like a paranoid rant.

Except that it turned out to be true. News21, supported by the Carnegie and Knight foundations, reports that Disney sites are indeed controlled by face-recognition technology, that the military is interested in the technology, and that the face-recognition contractor, Identix, has contracts with the US government – for technology that identifies individuals in a crowd.

Read more... http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/aug/15/new-totalitarianism-surveillance-technology

For more on tax exempt foundations, watch this:

Tax Exempt Foundations - G. Edward Griffin interviews Norman Dodd

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqyRAxW-uOg

[Danke]

I have nothing to hide.

[Anti Federalist]

I have nothing to hide.

Yes, you do.

http://theinkblot.com/

[KingRobbStark]

When the shit hits a the fan, your deodorant wont be of any use.

[Danke]

Yes, you do.

http://theinkblot.com/

Sickness Quotient: 67%
Hmmm, your "Sickness Quotient" of 67% is a little worriesome.

Detailed Diagnosis

Interpersonal Insights
You have a positive attitude towards nearly everything, which is incredibly stupid and very annoying to those around you. Your sense of self-entitlement means you're probably the kind of person that pulled the wings off of butterflies when you were little.

Job Performance & Attitude
Rather than do a one-time job that takes ten minutes, you'd work for 5 years to automate it. You hate your job but will never leave it. That's because no one else will hire people whose job skills consist of sleeping and surfing the web.

Personality Insight
Your personal motto is "You are what you do when it counts." And everyone thinks you're an idiot when you say it.

[heavenlyboy34]

Men grab power when they can. Once grabbed, it stays grabbed. A police operation like DHS will always try to grow. People in power always think they know best. When a federal department has money, industry rushes to sell it things. In the case of TSA, this means new and more advanced scanners, then upgrades, and maintenance contracts, training contracts, and then a new kind of scanner, and the process repeats.
And that there is why the political means will never be a long term, constructive solution to what ails us.

[GuerrillaXXI]

I have nothing to hide.That's what everyone thinks before tyranny descends. If the victims of past totalitarian regimes had thought they had reason to be afraid, do you think they would have stayed around and waited to be rounded up and put into camps or mass graves?

What if, for example, a future tyrannical government decides to purge anyone who could possibly be a dissident? It could easily look up anyone who had ever posted on a board like this one. Then you'd be in their sights. And that's just one of endless possible scenarios.

[heavenlyboy34]

That's what everyone thinks before tyranny descends. If the victims of past totalitarian regimes had thought they had reason to be afraid, do you think they would have stayed around and waited to be rounded up and put into camps or mass graves?

What if, for example, a future tyrannical government decides to purge anyone who could possibly be a dissident? It could easily look up anyone who had ever posted on a board like this one. Then you'd be in their sights. And that's just one of endless possible scenarios.
Pretty sure he was kidding, but you never know with that kid. :/

[heavenlyboy34]

Yes, you do.

http://theinkblot.com/
Sickness Quotient: 91%
WARNING: Your "Sickness Quotient" of 91% is very disturbing.

Detailed Diagnosis
http://theinkblot.com/image/spacer.gif


Interpersonal Insights
You are utterly incapable of meaningful relationships, which is probably a good thing since you're a horrible bore under the best of conditions. You never give up and refuse to settle for less than the best. In other words, you're impossible to please and you never shutup.
Job Performance & Attitude
Your attitude towards work is that you could watch others do it all day long. Rather than do a one-time job that takes ten minutes, you'd work for 5 years to automate it.
Personality Insight
Your personal motto is "Be a traveller in Life, not a tourist." But you're the kind of person that can't even get a temporary visa.

[Danke]

That's what everyone thinks before tyranny descends. If the victims of past totalitarian regimes had thought they had reason to be afraid, do you think they would have stayed around and waited to be rounded up and put into camps or mass graves?

What if, for example, a future tyrannical government decides to purge anyone who could possibly be a dissident? It could easily look up anyone who had ever posted on a board like this one. Then you'd be in their sights. And that's just one of endless possible scenarios.

Never thought of that. I may have to rethink my position. Thanks.

[low preference guy]

Never thought of that. I may have to rethink my position. Thanks.

whoa. this is pure comedic awesomeness.

[Danke]

whoa. this is pure comedic awesomeness.

Go be miserable somewhere else.

[low preference guy]

Go be miserable somewhere else.

i was sincere my friend. i was truly impressed. sometimes i'm not sarcastic too!

[Danke]

i was sincere my friend. i was truly impressed. sometimes i'm not sarcastic too!

I'm your friend now?

[low preference guy]

I'm your friend now?

it was just a friendly word so that you would read the rest.

[GuerrillaXXI]

How do we put a stop to this? Is it even possible at this point? If it ever gets to the point where the average apathetic citizen becomes aware and pissed off about the encroaching panopticon, which I highly doubt will happen, given the breadth of societal brainwashing, then what? My guess is that TPTB will stage another false flag, and the pissed off rabble will get back in line and willingly give up what little liberty we have left, or the authoritarian bastards will just say fuck it, and start basing skulls and begin shipping dissidents off to camps.

At this point, I don't see a way out. +rep to the op, but damn, this is depressing.Yes, it is very depressing that the world has come to this. It's especially depressing -- and pathetic, and disgusting -- to see a country like the US, which was founded on freedom, to have totally abandoned nearly every key principle that once defined it. This geographic territory in which we live may still go by the name "America," and we all still use that name for the sake of convenience, but by no means is it really America anymore. America is dead.

So, what do we do? I think we need to change our outlook to adapt to circumstances.

One thing I've come to realize is that most Americans don't deserve freedom. They've proven themselves unworthy of it, and most of them don't even want it. Many don't even know what it really means. They think they're safe now in this cozy little cocoon of a police state, but eventually it will turn on them, and they'll have to learn the hard way. By then it might be too late, but who knows?

In the meantime, we remaining freedom lovers are scattered throughout the country. The best thing we can do for ourselves is conquer our fear of early death, much as the Samurai once did. However, instead of desiring to die for the benefit of an emperor, we should be willing to die for what WE believe in. Our beliefs are greater than ourselves, and our hatred of tyranny and injustice can overpower fear. As my signature says, someone who isn't afraid of death is almost impossible to control by any political means. If such a person is pushed to the point where he's willing to go on the attack -- e.g., if he decides to retaliate for injustices done to a loved one -- then there's almost no way to stop him from at least taking down a few deserving scumbags before he's killed or kills himself to avoid capture.

Thus, when naked tyranny descends we can take some of the bastards with us, either as individuals or, preferably, in groups that have organized under the radar (no electronic communications, no cell phones present, etc.). Let the cowardly jackboots watch it all they want on their camera monitors after the fact. Their turn to die will eventually come too, whether it's from bullets or just old age.

[GuerrillaXXI]

I also want to repeat something I've said on other threads. There's a sure answer to the face recognition problem: We can work to make hiding one's face in public as socially acceptable on every day of the year as it is on Halloween. No need for elaborate disguises -- just simple ski masks, hoods, very wide-brimmed hats, etc., would do fine. Such a trend could be started as a protest movement as face-recognition scanners proliferate. If the trend takes off, it will make all that expensive technology worthless, and we'll have the last laugh on that score.

[DamianTV]

I also want to repeat something I've said on other threads. There's a sure answer to the face recognition problem: We can work to make hiding one's face in public as socially acceptable on every day of the year as it is on Halloween. No need for elaborate disguises -- just simple ski masks, hoods, very wide-brimmed hats, etc., would do fine. Such a trend could be started as a protest movement as face-recognition scanners proliferate. If the trend takes off, it will make all that expensive technology worthless, and we'll have the last laugh on that score.

What was that weird animated movie with Keanu Reeves where a lot of the ppl wore face hiding changing shifting masks?

[bunklocoempire]

I also want to repeat something I've said on other threads. There's a sure answer to the face recognition problem: We can work to make hiding one's face in public as socially acceptable on every day of the year as it is on Halloween. No need for elaborate disguises -- just simple ski masks, hoods, very wide-brimmed hats, etc., would do fine. Such a trend could be started as a protest movement as face-recognition scanners proliferate. If the trend takes off, it will make all that expensive technology worthless, and we'll have the last laugh on that score.

Perhaps some sort of ghillie-sombrero?

http://s6.postimage.org/9t1wt8wh9/Ghillieboonie.jpg (http://postimage.org/image/9t1wt8wh9/)

"Excuse me, do you have that multicam in portly?"

+ rep for you idea and sigs. Not familiar with those sigs, but as a physically mortal being myself, I can certainly agree with them according to my own beliefs.

RESIST!!

[Anti Federalist]

http://thepoliticalcarnival.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/laugh.gif


I have nothing to hide.


Sickness Quotient: 67%
Hmmm, your "Sickness Quotient" of 67% is a little worriesome.

Detailed Diagnosis

Interpersonal Insights
You have a positive attitude towards nearly everything, which is incredibly stupid and very annoying to those around you. Your sense of self-entitlement means you're probably the kind of person that pulled the wings off of butterflies when you were little.

Job Performance & Attitude
Rather than do a one-time job that takes ten minutes, you'd work for 5 years to automate it. You hate your job but will never leave it. That's because no one else will hire people whose job skills consist of sleeping and surfing the web.

Personality Insight
Your personal motto is "You are what you do when it counts." And everyone thinks you're an idiot when you say it.


Never thought of that. I may have to rethink my position. Thanks.


whoa. this is pure comedic awesomeness.


Go be miserable somewhere else.


i was sincere my friend. i was truly impressed. sometimes i'm not sarcastic too!


I'm your friend now?


it was just a friendly word so that you would read the rest.

[Anti Federalist]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9CAXTy1xP8&feature=related



Yes, it is very depressing that the world has come to this. It's especially depressing -- and pathetic, and disgusting -- to see a country like the US, which was founded on freedom, to have totally abandoned nearly every key principle that once defined it. This geographic territory in which we live may still go by the name "America," and we all still use that name for the sake of convenience, but by no means is it really America anymore. America is dead.

So, what do we do? I think we need to change our outlook to adapt to circumstances.

One thing I've come to realize is that most Americans don't deserve freedom. They've proven themselves unworthy of it, and most of them don't even want it. Many don't even know what it really means. They think they're safe now in this cozy little cocoon of a police state, but eventually it will turn on them, and they'll have to learn the hard way. By then it might be too late, but who knows?

In the meantime, we remaining freedom lovers are scattered throughout the country. The best thing we can do for ourselves is conquer our fear of early death, much as the Samurai once did. However, instead of desiring to die for the benefit of an emperor, we should be willing to die for what WE believe in. Our beliefs are greater than ourselves, and our hatred of tyranny and injustice can overpower fear. As my signature says, someone who isn't afraid of death is almost impossible to control by any political means. If such a person is pushed to the point where he's willing to go on the attack -- e.g., if he decides to retaliate for injustices done to a loved one -- then there's almost no way to stop him from at least taking down a few deserving scumbags before he's killed or kills himself to avoid capture.

Thus, when naked tyranny descends we can take some of the bastards with us, either as individuals or, preferably, in groups that have organized under the radar (no electronic communications, no cell phones present, etc.). Let the cowardly jackboots watch it all they want on their camera monitors after the fact. Their turn to die will eventually come too, whether it's from bullets or just old age.

[Anti Federalist]

Needs moar Fred.

http://www.fredoneverything.net/FOE-images/fred-navheader.jpg

[donnay]

What was that weird animated movie with Keanu Reeves where a lot of the ppl wore face hiding changing shifting masks?

Scanner Darkly

[DamianTV]

#4 is precisely why mandated auto insurance is a crime against humanity.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYU3eSSdKaQ

It wont be long until this is mandatory by all insurance companies.

Now, not that I am proclaiming to be a bad driver, but every single minute infraction will result in more profits by the insurance company because now they will claim to have a legitimate reason to charge you more for your insurance. Not that they are willing to pay for a fucking thing anyway should you ever need to make a claim.

[Anti Federalist]

Scanner Darkly

Alex Jones in "Waking Life"


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55kZRSG2sOQ

Alex Jones in "A Scanner, Darkly"


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDtfKNRTY-Q