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Tiso0770
08-20-2012, 01:00 AM
Every time they say NO CAMERA'S, They cheat...And also remember, the MSM can omit things out of the footage from the RNC, and we know they will. any idea's?.


The RNC has banned video cameras ensuring that the only videos released are ones that the GOP approves. Ron Paul has a plurality in 7 states. The GOP is replacing Paul delegates with Mitt Romney delegates so he will have less than 5; 5 being the magic number for Ron Paul to be nominated at the Republican National Convention in Tampa Florida on August 27-30. The GOP fears Ron Paul being nominated at the convention. To stop this from happening the GOP will violate the rules; just like they did in St. Charles county.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAmHyAW6ZwI

RDM
08-20-2012, 01:17 AM
Time for spy cameras.

Tiso0770
08-20-2012, 01:22 AM
I got the list here that are banned...


List Of Prohibited Items at RNC Convention
Submitted by entropypressStAt on Sat, 08/18/2012 - 13:44
in

Delegates

PROHIBITED ITEMS
As a condition of entry, the following items are inadmissible for safety and security reasons and will not be permitted within the security perimeter established for the 2012 Republican National Convention.

*Weapons, firearms or knives (regardless of size)
*Plastic replicas of weapons (including toy guns)
*Explosives / Fireworks
*Baseballs
*Umbrellas (unless provided by the Committee on Arrangements or the 2021 Tampa Bay Host Committee)
*Strollers
*Poles and Sticks
*Laser lights and laser pointers
*Coolers
*Whole Fruit
*Containers of any type (bottles, cans, spray canisters)
*Aerosols
*Mace / Pepper Spray / tasers / stun guns, or similar devices
*Sharp and /or pointed objects : razor blades, scissors, knitting needles, screw drivers, etc.
*Leatherman or similar tools
*Whistles, noise makers, horns or drums, unless authorized by convention officials
*Banners, signs or placards
*Flashlights, unless authorized by the Committee on Arrangements Event Production or Security Divisions
*Unopened envelopes or packages(items must be open and available for inspection / screening)
*CAMCORDERS and cases, large cameras with lens (over four inches) - does NOT apply to media.
*Voice enchancement devices, such as bullhorns - does not apply to media
*Tripods for cameras - does not apply to media
*Backpacks or carry cases for binoculars, cameras - does not apply to media



http://www.dailypaul.com/249626/list-of-prohibited-items?page=1

To Add: notice that Camcorders are in Caps.

parocks
08-20-2012, 02:36 AM
Time for spy cameras.

yup.

IPSecure
08-20-2012, 02:38 AM
*Voice enchancement devices, such as bullhorns - does not apply to media

Is AJ or Ben Swann going?

DGambler
08-20-2012, 02:45 AM
Doesn't say smartphones, just saying.

parocks
08-20-2012, 02:45 AM
I got the list here that are banned...



http://www.dailypaul.com/249626/list-of-prohibited-items?page=1

To Add: notice that Camcorders are in Caps.

Well, an iphone is not considered a camcorder. a point and shoot camera is likely not considered a camcorder, even if it is a camcorder. Point and shoot is one without detachable lens. They mention a "large camera with lens" - they're referring to a dslr there. What I think their concern is is a space issue, a size issue. I'm not sure about that though. I can say that a $300 point and shoot camera does roughly the same job as a camcorder. I have one, a point and shoot camera, that would take great video and would be allowed. last years model sony hx9v. a lot of them do roughly the same job. the "travel zoom" category. I got about 4 hours of video each day at the maine convention. They certainly are banning a lot of tricks. but not all. They are very worried we're gonna build a set in there.

DGambler
08-20-2012, 02:49 AM
http://www.camera2000.com/en/8x-zoom-lens-optical-telescope-camera-for-cell-phone-smartphone.html?sa=X&ei=6_kxUK6TGJGo8gTYyoHIBQ&ved=0CGUQgwgwAQ

parocks
08-20-2012, 02:53 AM
http://www.camera2000.com/en/8x-zoom-lens-optical-telescope-camera-for-cell-phone-smartphone.html?sa=X&ei=6_kxUK6TGJGo8gTYyoHIBQ&ved=0CGUQgwgwAQ

seems useful.

parocks
08-20-2012, 03:04 AM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mini-Hidden-Camera-Spy-Car-Key-Chain-DVR-Cam-Camcorder-Video-/120915336916?pt=US_Surveillance_Digital_Video_Reco rders_Cards&hash=item1c271d9ed4 $10 camera

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lightest-HD-Key-Chain-cam-DV-LENS-Camera-DVR-video-808-11-/271037010965?pt=US_Surveillance_Digital_Video_Reco rders_Cards&hash=item3f1b109415 $35 camera - 720p

Origanalist
08-20-2012, 06:22 AM
Just a suggestion from someone who can't go, for what it's worth. A coordinated effort with 4-6 individuals using the items listed above by parocks at strategic times and locations throughout the convention could quite possibly blow whatever nonsense they pull up in their faces.

ronpaulfollower999
08-20-2012, 06:30 AM
Keyword- "does not apply to media"

RPF is basically media, right? ;)

Liberty74
08-20-2012, 06:37 AM
Doesn't say smartphones, just saying.

Exactly - smile RNC crooks. You're gonna be on YouTube.

phill4paul
08-20-2012, 06:41 AM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mini-Hidden-Camera-Spy-Car-Key-Chain-DVR-Cam-Camcorder-Video-/120915336916?pt=US_Surveillance_Digital_Video_Reco rders_Cards&hash=item1c271d9ed4 $10 camera

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lightest-HD-Key-Chain-cam-DV-LENS-Camera-DVR-video-808-11-/271037010965?pt=US_Surveillance_Digital_Video_Reco rders_Cards&hash=item3f1b109415 $35 camera - 720p

Wow those are cool. I'm going to have to check out some user reviews. Thanks for the links.

SilenceDewgooder
08-20-2012, 07:11 AM
the MSM can omit things out of the footage from the RNC, and we know they will.

They can do more than that "by law":

In February 2003, a Florida Court of Appeals unanimously agreed with an assertion by FOX News that there is no rule against distorting or falsifying the news in the United States.

Back in December of 1996, Jane Akre and her husband, Steve Wilson, were hired by FOX as a part of the Fox “Investigators” team at WTVT in Tampa Bay, Florida. In 1997 the team began work on a story about bovine growth hormone (BGH), a controversial substance manufactured by Monsanto Corporation. The couple produced a four-part series revealing that there were many health risks related to BGH and that Florida supermarket chains did little to avoid selling milk from cows treated with the hormone, despite assuring customers otherwise.

According to Akre and Wilson, the station was initially very excited about the series. But within a week, Fox executives and their attorneys wanted the reporters to use statements from Monsanto representatives that the reporters knew were false and to make other revisions to the story that were in direct conflict with the facts. Fox editors then tried to force Akre and Wilson to continue to produce the distorted story. When they refused and threatened to report Fox's actions to the FCC, they were both fired.(Project Censored #12 1997)

Akre and Wilson sued the Fox station and on August 18, 2000, a Florida jury unanimously decided that Akre was wrongfully fired by Fox Television when she refused to broadcast (in the jury's words) “a false, distorted or slanted story” about the widespread use of BGH in dairy cows. They further maintained that she deserved protection under Florida's whistle blower law. Akre was awarded a $425,000 settlement. Inexplicably, however, the court decided that Steve Wilson, her partner in the case, was ruled not wronged by the same actions taken by FOX.

FOX appealed the case, and on February 14, 2003 the Florida Second District Court of Appeals unanimously overturned the settlement awarded to Akre. The Court held that Akre’s threat to report the station’s actions to the FCC did not deserve protection under Florida’s whistle blower statute, because Florida’s whistle blower law states that an employer must violate an adopted “law, rule, or regulation." In a stunningly narrow interpretation of FCC rules, the Florida Appeals court claimed that the FCC policy against falsification of the news does not rise to the level of a "law, rule, or regulation," it was simply a "policy." Therefore, it is up to the station whether or not it wants to report honestly. (Anybody surprised this happened in Florida?)

During their appeal, FOX asserted that there are no written rules against distorting news in the media. They argued that, under the First Amendment, broadcasters have the right to lie or deliberately distort news reports on public airwaves. Fox attorneys did not dispute Akre’s claim that they pressured her to broadcast a false story, they simply maintained that it was their right to do so.

UtahApocalypse
08-20-2012, 07:40 AM
*Weapons, firearms or knives (regardless of size)

I thought the GOP were 2nd amendment supporters?

Elwar
08-20-2012, 07:47 AM
These:
http://www.zioneyez.com/

http://static6.businessinsider.com/image/4e011327ccd1d58f15140000-619-401/sunglasses.jpg

jbuttell
08-20-2012, 08:07 AM
As others have pointed out... it not only doesn't say anything about smart phones, it says nothing about prohibiting general video recording devices... Record to your hearts desires, so long as it isn't with a dedicated Camcorder or professional camera. I honestly don't think they care.

Natural Citizen
08-20-2012, 08:14 AM
Looks like a bluetooth ear piece to me.

https://www.dynaspy.com/bluetooth-style-spy-camera-dvr

Matthew Zak
08-20-2012, 09:20 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFKZqbGRuxs

Demigod
08-20-2012, 09:24 AM
I got the list here that are banned...

List Of Prohibited Items at RNC Convention
Submitted by entropypressStAt on Sat, 08/18/2012 - 13:44
in

Delegates

PROHIBITED ITEMS
As a condition of entry, the following items are inadmissible for safety and security reasons and will not be permitted within the security perimeter established for the 2012 Republican National Convention.



*Whole Fruit






http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piWCBOsJr-w

musicmax
08-20-2012, 10:08 AM
Can the OP and/or a mod please remove the superfluous apostrophes so that we don't look like a pack of illiterate boobs?

sailingaway
08-20-2012, 10:46 AM
Can the OP and/or a mod please remove the superfluous apostrophes so that we don't look like a pack of illiterate boobs?

there is only one superfluous apostrophe. How does that make you look?

on topic, I note no 'voice enhancement devices' which they can pretend all they want is to keep people from causing scenes but we WELL KNOW from their repeated 'deaf chair' move in ignoring proper motions and procedure that you need something to be heard by those who need to vote with you and if only the one breaking the rules has a mic that is a real problem. To which I say that while we wouldn't want to look all OWS in RNC as a general rule, the 'mic check' procedure they have of the crowd in unison repeating what the first speaker said, is effective.

Razmear
08-20-2012, 10:55 AM
Still wondering how Baseballs made the list. Looks like cell phone cameras should be OK tho.

angelatc
08-20-2012, 11:48 AM
They can do more than that "by law":

In February 2003, a Florida Court of Appeals unanimously agreed with an assertion by FOX News that there is no rule against distorting or falsifying the news in the United States.
.

This is a liberal lie, which has been disproven on these forums many times, but my all means - keep spreading propaganda for the left.

You are just repeating what someone else wrote about the court's ruling. Did you read the court's ruling? The Washington Post did a review of the reporter's claims about RBGH and concluded there was no merit to them. So much for that.

The editing that Wilson and Akre refused to allow? Uh, the station only wanted Monsanto's point of view on the story included in the report. . After their contract wasn't renewed, another reporter went ahead and reported the story, including Monsanto's response to the charges. The Columbia Journalism Review examined this report and determined it to be "hardly any difference in substance" from the Wilson/Akre version. But Wilson didn't take kindly to the station giving the assignment to someone else.

The court didn't dispute Akre's claim? Neither did they affirm it, because it wasn't the issue before them.. Apellate courts decide issues of law, not questions of fact. The court's decision was based on who constitutes a 'whistleblower' and whether a particular rule was 'adopted' or put in place by an 'adjudicative procedure'. You neglected to mention that Akre and Wilson argued that they had no obligation to prove that any 'news distortion' actually occurred.

The court ruling makes no mention whatsoever of the "first amendment" or lying, or a right to lie. You're just reposting someone else's partisan, and inaccurate, spin.

And as long as I'm here, Fox News is indeed allowed to broadcast in Canada, too.

angelatc
08-20-2012, 11:49 AM
Can the OP and/or a mod please remove the superfluous apostrophe's so that we don't look like a pack of illiterate boob's?

Fixed it for you. :P

MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2
08-20-2012, 01:10 PM
will not be permitted within the security perimeter

Is that the same as the "event zone" or is that something different. I noticed flashlights are on the list and I don't really go anywhere without a flashlight. I've said several times I won't be at the RNC, but their "event zone" is ridiculous.

Suzu
08-20-2012, 02:51 PM
NO CAMERA'S....any idea's?.
Yes, please read http://www.theoatmeal.com/comics/apostrophe

devil21
08-20-2012, 02:57 PM
Smart phones with extra batteries, spycams, pen cameras, and other methods will get around this. Im curious how thorough the entry searches will be?

Don't be surprised if they don't allow point and shoot cameras with video capability. Have a backup in case they change the rules! You know they will.

Im assuming baseballs and fruit and whatnot are on the list because they can be thrown ;)

parocks
08-20-2012, 03:05 PM
Wow those are cool. I'm going to have to check out some user reviews. Thanks for the links.

I have both. I much prefer the video quality of the $300 point and shoot with 16x zoom sony hx9v. However, the 808#11 720p is solid.
Here's some links

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-FR1EHmnMU&feature=plcp - 808#11 720p (Dan Deacon) - $35 one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5a4x_wvLcIE&feature=plcp - sony hx9v 1080p60p (St. Vincent) $300 one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18sA6juUHr4&feature=plcp - 808#3 480p (ISIS) - $10 one - youtube description has details about the cameras
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PO6s8KH22Gw&feature=plcp - here are 4 $10 cameras

dillo
08-20-2012, 03:10 PM
It doesnt say anything about phones, and my phone has a camera

MelissaCato
08-20-2012, 03:18 PM
Doesn't say smartphones, just saying.

Ya this. ^^ Androids I don't see on the list. :D

devil21
08-20-2012, 03:37 PM
Yall expect them to follow their own rules? lol

FrankRep
08-20-2012, 08:15 PM
Has any other delegates mentioned anything yet?

RonRules
08-20-2012, 10:45 PM
They forgot to ban box cutters again.

Scott_in_PA
08-20-2012, 10:49 PM
I know it's been said but I'm gonna go with a half-eaten tomato. That's not whole fruit right.:eek:

Barrex
08-21-2012, 05:50 AM
If you are going in pairs split whole bunch of fruits and one of you carry 1 half and another carry other half of it....When they frisk you it will be interesting situation.... Maybe you could carry a tube of glue and after checkpoint try to glue fruits together... Ah...my brain and his little schemes...

smithtg
08-21-2012, 08:21 AM
Doesn't say smartphones, just saying.

my thought exactly. Isnt that how some of the live feeds came in from the state conventions? Buy extra batteries people

smithtg
08-21-2012, 08:23 AM
are they allowing shoes (re: dubyah shoe attack) I bet you gonna have to take them off before you go in; The TSA is good at smelling stinky sneakers and finding shoe/underwear bombs!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFX-dKpcDz8