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jct74

08-19-2012, 02:34 PM

Looks like the legalization initiatives in Colorado and Oregon have a real good chance to pass according to some recent polls, this may get very interesting. Does anyone know of any other marijuana reform initiatives on the ballot in November? Or even any other broader drug reform or local city-wide drug reform initiatives, post them in this thread if you know of any.

From NORML Smoke The Vote (http://norml.org/about/smoke-the-vote#state), Stop the Drug War (http://stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle/2012/sep/06/drug_policy_2012_elections_i_ini), and other sources:

Colorado: Amendment 64 (marijuana legalization)

http://norml.org/images/takeAction/zen_logo.png

Campaign website: www.regulatemarijuana.org

Amendment 64 would allow adults 21 and over to possess up to an ounce of marijuana or six marijuana plants, three of which could be mature. It would create a system of state-licensed cultivation, manufacturing, and testing facilities and state-licensed retail stores. Local governments would have the option of regulating or prohibiting such facilities. The amendment would also require the state legislature to enact legislation governing industrial hemp cultivation, processing, and sale, and to create an excise tax on wholesale marijuana sales. The first $40 million of that annual revenue would be dedicated to building public schools.

Polls:

PollsterSubject Polled
Support
Oppose
Lead
Date
Public Policy Polling (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/11/obama-leads-by-6-points-in-colorado-4-in-nevada.html)Amendment 64
52
44
+8
11/03 - 11/04
Denver Post / SurveyUSA (http://www.denverpost.com/news/marijuana/ci_21923019/election-day-votes-will-decide-colorado-marijuana-legalization)Amendment 64
50
44
+6
10/28 - 10/31
Public Policy Polling (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/10/obama-up-4-in-colorado.html)Amendment 64
53
43
+10
10/23 - 10/25
Denver Post / SurveyUSA (http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=c33f6e0a-00b5-4764-8ee2-525a01ca58b0)Amendment 64
48
43
+5
10/9 - 10/10
Quinnipiac / CBS / NYT (http://www.scribd.com/fullscreen/109655473?access_key=key-2mzy8kdhx8dbdt8y5ik6)legalizing marijuana
45
46
-1
10/4 - 10/9
University of Denver / Seltzer (http://blog.norml.org/2012/10/09/one-month-before-the-election-colorado-marijuana-legalization-still-up-ten-points/)Amendment 64
50
40
+10
10/4 - 10/5
Denver Post / SurveyUSA (http://www.denverpost.com/news/marijuana/ci_21548398/colorado-marijuana-legalization-initiative-leads-new-pollt)Amendment 64
51
40
+11
9/09 - 9/12
Public Policy Polling (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/09/marijuana-amendment-leads-in-colorado.html)Amendment 64
47
38
+9
8/31 - 9/02
Public Policy Polling (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/08/co-voters-favor-assault-weapons-ban-legal-pot-civil-unions.html)Amendment 64
47
38
+9
8/02 - 8/05
Public Policy Polling (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/06/hickenlooper-remains-one-of-most-popular-governors.html)Amendment 64
46
42
+4
6/14 - 6/17
Rasmussen Reports (http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_state_surveys/colorado/61_in_colorado_favor_legalizing_regulating_marijua na)regulating marijuana like alcohol
61
27
+34
6/06
Public Policy Polling (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2011/12/colorado-favors-gay-marriage-marijuana-use-loves-tebow.html)legalizing marijuana
49
40
+9
Dec. 2011

Vote YES on Amendment 64.

RESULT: PASSED!

100% reporting

YES
1,291,771
54.8%
NO
1,064,342
45.2%

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Washington: Initiative 502 (marijuana legalization)

http://norml.org/images/takeAction/screen%20shot%202012-06-27%20at%2012.51.18%20pm.png

Campaign website: www.newapproachwa.org

Initiative 502 would legalize the possession of up to an ounce of marijuana by adults 21 and over, but does not allow for personal cultivation, except by or for medical marijuana patients. It would license marijuana cultivation and retail and wholesale sales, with restrictions on advertising. Regulation would be the remit of the state liquor control board, which would have to come up with rules by December 2013. The measure would create a 25% excise tax on marijuana sales, with 40% of revenues dedicated to the general fund and 60% dedicated to substance abuse prevention, research, and healthcare. It would create a per se driving under the influence standard of 5 nanograms of THC per milliliter of blood.

Polls:

PollsterSubject Polled
Support
Oppose
Lead
Date
Public Policy Polling (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/11/wa-gov-a-toss-up-obama-and-gay-marriage-well-ahead.html)Initiative 502
53
44
+9
11/01 - 11/03
King 5 / SurveyUSA (http://www.king5.com/news/politics/KING-5-Poll-Governors-race-a-dead-heat-176770651.html)Initiative 502
56
37
+19
10/28 - 10/31
KCTS 9 Washington (http://kcts9.org/sites/default/files/kcts9wapoll_oct31.pdf)Initiative 502
55
38
+17
10/18 - 10/31
Elway Research (http://www.scribd.com/doc/111037735/Elway-Poll-102412)Initiative 502
48
44
+4
10/18 - 10/21
Strategies 360 (http://www.strategies360.com/client/12-165_OctWACrosstabs.pdf)Initiative 502
54
38
+16
10/17 - 10/20
King 5 / SurveyUSA (http://www.king5.com/news/up-front/polls/KING-5-poll-Initiatives-still-ahead-AG-race-now-a-toss-up-174837961.html)Initiative 502
55
36
+19
10/12 - 10/14
KCTS 9 Washington (http://kcts9.org/sites/default/files/kcts9wapoll2012_oct18_results.pdf)Initiative 502
47
40
+7
10/1 - 10/16
King 5 / SurveyUSA (http://www.nwcn.com/home/?fId=172885681&fPath=/news/local&fDomain=10212)Initiative 502
57
33
+24
9/28 - 9/30
Elway Research (http://blog.seattlepi.com/seattlepolitics/2012/09/17/gay-marriage-pot-legalization-gain-elway-poll/)Initiative 502
50
38
+12
9/08 - 9/12
King 5 / SurveyUSA (http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=07b89034-43b1-4d60-8d0f-2982bd314434)Initiative 502
57
34
+23
9/07 - 9/09
King 5 / SurveyUSA (http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=2786ebbd-3348-4795-b0a8-0ee124a9707d)Initiative 502
55
32
+23
7/16 - 7/17
Public Policy Polling (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/06/mckenna-takes-lead-in-wa-gubernatorial-race.html)Initiative 502
50
37
+13
6/14 - 6/17
Public Policy Polling (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/02/washington-governors-race-a-dead-heat.html)Initiative 502
47
39
+8
2/16 - 2/19
Elway Research (http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2017162013_marijuana05m.html)Initiative 502
48
45
+3
Jan. 2012

Vote YES on Initiative 502.

RESULT: PASSED!

74.9% reporting

YES
1,340,196
55.4%
NO
1,079,200
44.6%

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Oregon: Measure 80 (marijuana legalization)

http://www.usobserver.com/archive/aug-12/images/ortax.jpg

Campaign website: www.vote80.org

Measure 80, the Oregon Cannabis Tax Act (OCTA), would create an Oregon Cannabis Commission to regulate the cultivation and sale of marijuana, but not industrial hemp, which would be allowed, but not regulated by the commission. The commission would grant licenses to cultivate marijuana for sale to it by "all qualified applicants" and would sell marijuana at state retail stores at prices it determines. Medical marijuana patients would have their medicine provided at cost. The OCTA would supersede all state and local laws regarding marijuana, except for impaired driving laws, leaving personal possession and cultivation by adults unregulated.

Polls:

PollsterSubject Polled
Support
Oppose
Lead
Date
The Oregonian / Elway Research (http://www.oregonlive.com/politics/index.ssf/2012/10/obama_leads_in_oregon_thanks_t.html)Measure 80
42
49
-7
10/25 - 10/28
KATU / SurveyUSA (http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=242a16b4-1a4c-47eb-a09e-52040667cc42)Measure 80
36
43
-7
10/16 - 10/18
KATU / SurveyUSA (http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=f35f6734-8377-4585-bb0e-a1a5fc418199)Measure 80
37
41
-4
9/10 - 9/13
Public Policy Polling (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/07/oregon-divided-on-gay-marriage.html)legalizing marijuana
43
46
-3
6/21 - 6/24

Vote YES on Measure 80.

RESULT: FAILED

100% reporting (http://www.oregonvotes.gov/doc/history/nov62012/G12_Abstract.pdf)

YES
810,538
46.8%
NO
923,071
53.2%

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Massachusetts: Question 3 (medical marijuana)

http://norml.org/images/takeAction/massbanner.jpg

Campaign website: www.compassionforpatients.com

Question 3 would allow people suffering from a debilitating medical condition to use medical marijuana upon the recommendation of a doctor with whom they have a bona fide relationship. Patients could possess up to a 60-day supply -- what constitutes that supply will be determined by the Department of Health. The initiative would also set up a system of nonprofit medical marijuana cultivation and distribution centers.

Polls:

PollsterSubject Polled
Support
Oppose
Lead
Date
Suffolk University / 7NEWS (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/docs/2012/Suffolk_MA_1030.pdf)Question 3
55
36
+19
10/25 - 10/28
Boston Globe / UNH Survey Center (http://cache.boston.com/multimedia/2012/10/29poll2/poll_no_summary.pdf)Question 3
63
28
+35
10/24 - 10/28
Public Policy Polling (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/10/warren-lead-up-to-6-points-obamas-down-to-14.html)Question 3
57
31
+26
10/9 - 10/11
Boston Globe / UNH Survey Center (http://www.boston.com/multimedia/2012/09/30poll/poll_web_sunday.pdf)Question 3
69
22
+47
9/21 - 9/27
Suffolk University / 7NEWS (http://blog.norml.org/2012/09/18/massachusetts-medical-marijuana-initiative-question-3-maintains-strong-lead/)Question 3
59
35
+24
9/13 - 9/16
Public Policy Polling (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/08/obama-up-in-massachusetts.html)Question 3
58
27
+31
8/16 - 8/19
Public Policy Polling (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/06/ma-okay-with-gay-marriage-sox-fans-with-bobby-v.html)legalizing medical marijuana
57
33
+24
6/22 - 6/24
Public Policy Polling (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/03/massachusetts-voters-happy-with-gay-marriage.html)generic proposal to legalize MMJ
53
35
+18
3/16 - 3/18

Vote YES on the Massachusetts Medical Marijuana Initiative.

RESULT: PASSED!

99.9% reporting

YES
1,895,340
63.3%
NO
1,097,797
36.7%

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Arkansas: Issue 5 (medical marijuana)

http://stopthedrugwar.org/files/imagecache/300px/acc-issue-5.jpg

Campaign website: www.arcompassion.org

Issue 5 would allow patients suffering from specified diseases or medical conditions to use marijuana with a doctor's recommendation. It envisions a system of state-licensed nonprofit dispensaries, and would allow patients or their caregivers to grow their own only if they are not within five miles of a dispensary. In that case, patients could grow up to six flowering plants. Patients could possess up to 2 ½ ounces of marijuana.

Polls:

PollsterSubject Polled
Support
Oppose
Lead
Date
Talk Business-Hendrix College (http://talkbusiness.net/2012/10/new-poll-opposition-to-medical-marijuana-grows/)Issue 5
38
54
-16
10/18
University of Arkansas (http://www.uark.edu/depts/plscinfo/partners/arkpoll/12/2012_Arkansas_Poll_Summary_Report.pdf)Issue 5
44
52
-8
10/9 - 10/14
Talk Business-Hendrix College (http://talkbusiness.net/2012/07/arkansans-split-views-on-health-care-medicaid-medical-marijuana/)Issue 5
47
46
+1
7/19

Vote YES on Issue 5.

RESULT: FAILED

97.7% reporting

YES
501,359
48.6%
NO
530,964
51.4%

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Montana: Initiative Referendum 124 (medical marijuana REPEAL)

http://norml.org/images/takeAction/mtbanner.jpg

Campaign website: www.patientsforreform.org

Initiative Referendum 124 would undo the gutting of the state's medical marijuana program through the passage last year of Senate Bill 423. That bill replaced the voter-approved medical marijuana program, which allowed for dispensary sales, with a new scheme that limited providers to serving only three patients, prohibited providers from accepting anything of value in exchange for products or services, granted local governments the power to regulate providers, tightened standards for demonstrating chronic pain, and demanded reviews of doctors who certified more than 25 patients in a one-year period.

Polls:

PollsterSubject Polled
Support
Oppose
Lead
Date
Public Policy Polling (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/10/toss-ups-in-several-montana-statewide-races-.html)Initiative Referendum 124
44
30
+14
10/8 -10/10
Mason Dixon (http://helenair.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/elections/voters-back-restrictions-on-cannabis-strong-majority-favors-notification-law/article_0a7aaf76-0486-11e2-8a41-001a4bcf887a.html)Initiative Referendum 124
44
31
+13
9/22 (?)
Public Policy Polling (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/09/bullock-edges-hill-for-montana-governor.html)Initiative Referendum 124
46
29
+17
9/10 - 9/11

Vote AGAINST IR-124 / SB 423.

RESULT: PASSED

93.6% reporting

YES
235,444
56.6%
NO
180,521
43.4%

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Local Initiatives

Detroit, MI - Proposal M seeks to remove criminal penalties for possession on private property of up to one ounce of marijuana by adults by adults age 21 and older.

Website: http://saferdetroit.net/index.php

RESULT: PASSED with 65% of vote!

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Flint, MI - Voters will decide whether to remove criminal penalties for possession on private property of up to one ounce of marijuana (or marijuana paraphernalia) by adults age 19 and older.

RESULT: PASSED with 57% (http://www.mlive.com/news/flint/index.ssf/2012/11/flint_police_will_still_make_m.html) of vote!

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Grand Rapids, MI - Proposal 2 seeks to allow local law enforcement the discretion to ticket first-time marijuana offenders with a civil citation, punishable by a $25 fine and no criminal record.

Website: http://decriminalizegr.org/

RESULT: PASSED with 60% of vote!

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Ypsilanti, MI - Voters will decide whether to make the local enforcement of marijuana possession offenses the city’s lowest law enforcement priority.

RESULT: PASSED with 74% (http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2012/11/07/voters-in-michigan-cities-back-marijuana-issues/) of vote!

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Kalamazoo, MI - Voters will decide whether to allow the opening of 3 medical marijuana dispensaries (http://www.mlive.com/news/kalamazoo/index.ssf/2012/07/kalamazoo_will_vote_in_novembe.html) in the city.

RESULT: PASSED with 64% (http://www.mlive.com/news/kalamazoo/index.ssf/2012/11/kalamazoo_medical_marijuana_di.html) of vote!

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California - A number of towns, mostly in the San Diego area, will vote on local initiatives to allow medical marijuana dispensaries. Those include Del Mar, Imperial Beach, Lemon Grove, and Solana Beach, as well as Palo Alto. The town of Dunsmuir will vote on whether to loosen cultivation regulations.

RESULTS: Measures in Del Mar, Imperial Beach, Lemon Grove, and Solana Beach to allow dispensaries all FAILED by a relatively wide margin. Measure in Dunsmuir to loosen regulations FAILED with 47% (http://www.eastbayexpress.com/LegalizationNation/archives/2012/11/07/california-vote-a-mixed-bag-for-marijuana-law-reformers).

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Colorado - Berthoud will be voting on whether to ban dispensaries, and Fort Collins will be voting on whether to overturn the ban on dispensaries voted in last November.

RESULTS: Berthoud's measure FAILED with only 43% (http://www.reporterherald.com/news/larimer-county/ci_21943723/unofficial-numbers-show-berthoud-question-300-fails) supporting a ban on dispensaries. The measure in Fort Collins to overturn a ban on dispensaries PASSED with 55%.

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Massachusetts - In a continuation of work done in the past six election cycles, voters in a number of legislative districts will be asked a non-binding public policy question. In the First Essex and Middlesex Senate District, the Eighth Essex House District, and the Twenty-Second Essex House District voters will be asked whether they support repeal of the "federal prohibition of marijuana, as the 21st Amendment repealed national prohibition of alcohol, so that states may regulate it as they choose?" Voters in the Second Middlesex Senate District, the Middlesex and Suffolk Senate District, and the Second Berkshire House District will answer a similar question.

RESULTS: All measures PASSED by a wide margin. See here (http://stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle/2012/nov/07/more_drugrelated_election_result) for details.

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Washington - Voters in six cities -- Bellingham, Bremerton, Everett, Kent, Olympia, and Spokane -- will vote on initiatives to make marijuana the lowest law enforcement priority and prohibit local officials from cooperating with federal marijuana law enforcement activities.

RESULTS: couldn't find any information, but marijuana is now legal in WA anyways

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mrsat_98

08-19-2012, 03:20 PM

Arkansas SOS was presented with double the number of signatures required. They have not commented as if the count was verified.

COpatriot

08-19-2012, 03:46 PM

I will be voting for 64 in Colorado. I'm thinking we'll get this one right.

trey4sports

08-19-2012, 03:50 PM

trey4sports

08-19-2012, 03:55 PM

I think what would be even MORE interesting is how would the President deal with a state that has legalized and regulated marijuana. Would a president Obama who no longer is seeking reelection crackdown on state-licenses marijuana dispensaries or not? I have no doubt Mitt would break-up the party.

DerailingDaTrain

08-19-2012, 05:05 PM

I heard that Washington's is facing some backlash from the medical community because of the limits on driving (since it stays in your system for so long none of them could drive) and things might turn out like California did.

They're just now drafting the bill for MMJ in NC. Better late than never I guess?

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_SEATTLE_HEMPFEST?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2012-08-17-18-23-06

The measure has garnered opposition from the medical cannabis community, and some say its driving-under-the-influence provisions are so strict that it could prevent them from driving at all.

Others say the measure doesn't go far enough because it wouldn't allow people to grow their own pot for recreational use, although medical patients still could; it doesn't contemplate the industrial growing of hemp; and it would not allow recreational use for those between 18 and 21.

Because of the split, Hempfest - now in its 21st year of advocating legalization - is taking no official position on the measure, something McPeak called "very painful and very awkward."

Alison Holcomb, campaign manager for the measure's sponsor, New Approach Washington, said she was disappointed, too.

"We've got a legalization measure on the ballot right now," Holcomb said. "Seattle Hempfest, which has been carrying the legalization banner for 21 years, ought to be celebrating."

Both sides of the debate were aired at the festival, as supporters and opponents set up tents and vied for the attention of potential voters.

At the No on I-502 tent, activist Arthur West said he's been attending Hempfest since the late 1990s and never imagined that he'd be here to oppose a legalization measure. But then, he and fellow activist Poppy Sidhu said they don't consider I-502 legalization at all.

"We're all for legalization, but legalization, for me, is being able to grow as much as I want and being able to walk down the street to Starbucks smoking my joint," Sidhu said.

Conner Michaels, 24, of Bellingham, approached with a thick, burning blunt in his hand and asked for a No on I-502 button.

"This is sick," he said. "I'm not going to be able to drive if this passes."

Medical marijuana dispensaries are largely also opposed, in part, because of the licensing requirements in the measure, said Brian Ray, the goateed, dreadlocked owner of One Love Collective, a dispensary in South Seattle. Many dispensaries are doing well under the current system, and there's no reason to rush into a legalization scheme that might be flawed, he said.

"It appears like it's going to shut down the entrepreneurial spirit of these small businesses," Ray said.

jct74

08-19-2012, 07:46 PM

Arkansas SOS was presented with double the number of signatures required. They have not commented as if the count was verified.

Thanks, I didn't know about that one. It is an effort to get medical marijuana on the ballot in Arkansas, and it looks like they have collected enough valid signatures.

Medical marijuana push submits 74,000 more signatures

Submitted by The City Wire Staff on Mon, 08/13/2012 - 7:31pm
story by Roby Brock, a TCW content partner and owner of Talk Business

A group pushing to legalize medicinal marijuana turned in an additional 74,406 signatures today in what supporters hoped would be enough to qualify the proposal for the November ballot.

The group, Arkansans for Compassionate Care, fell about 26,000 signatures short of a required 62,507 valid voter signatures on July 6. With the new collection effort, their odds are good that the proposal will qualify for voter consideration.

The medical marijuana proposal would allow for up to 30 nonprofit dispensaries in Arkansas. Local cities and counties could choose to ban them.

Marijuana would only be available to people with a prescription for certain health conditions, including cancer, glaucoma, Hepatitis C, HIV/AIDs, Alzheimer’s disease and several other conditions. The proposal allows for a patient to have up to 2.5 ounces of usable marijuana without the threat of prosecution.

...

read more:
http://www.thecitywire.com/node/23440#.UDGUnWFSTh4

http://citywirelive.tcwmediallc.netdna-cdn.com/sites/default/files/styles/art_imagethumb/public/node_files/08-12/Michael%20Tilley/medmarijuana.jpg

jct74

08-19-2012, 09:41 PM

looks like medical marijuana will probably be on the ballot in North Dakota too.

ND likely to debate medical marijuana proposal

August 7, 2012 10:10 AM

BISMARCK, N.D. — North Dakota voters are likely to have a chance this fall to decide whether marijuana may be used legally as a pain reliever, an option the Legislature has never addressed and that South Dakotans have rejected twice.

Supporters of medical marijuana have been circulating a citizen initiative to put the issue on the November ballot. On Monday, Dave Schwartz, campaign director for a pro-medical marijuana group called North Dakotans for Compassionate Care, delivered petitions that he said contained about 20,000 signatures to North Dakota Secretary of State Al Jaeger's office.

The petitions need about 13,500 signatures from North Dakota voters for the initiative to qualify for a vote. Jaeger has about a month to review the petitions and decide whether they are valid.

The measure would allow someone who suffers from cancer, glaucoma, post-traumatic stress disorder and other debilitating illnesses to use marijuana if a doctor recommends it.

...

read more:
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505245_162-57488076/nd-likely-to-debate-medical-marijuana-proposal/

ClydeCoulter

08-19-2012, 10:25 PM

DerailingDaTrain

08-19-2012, 10:42 PM

So, does this help the HEMP situation? I don't want to be regulated, even though I don't smoke mary-jane anymore, haven't for decades (not that I wouldn't like to, but causes heart palpitations). But I would grow hemp for industrial uses though.

It seems that only the Oregon Cannabis Tax Act 2012 will restore industrial hemp.

http://www.usobserver.com/archive/aug-12/images/ortax.jpg

The Oregon Cannabis Tax Act 2012 is a citizen’s initiative campaign to regulate cannabis and restore industrial hemp. Our goal is to protect Oregon’s children and increase public safety by creating a series of regulations around the growth and sale of cannabis and industrial hemp. Just as ending alcohol prohibition and regulating that market has protected society, regulating cannabis will help keep cannabis away from children and ensure marijuana is only sold to adults over the age of 21.

Currently the state of Oregon spends $61.5 million in law enforcement, corrections, and judicial costs, just on the enforcement of cannabis related incidents. Not only would this Act eliminate most of those costs, it would generate over $140 million a YEAR by taxing commercial cannabis sales to adults.

The Oregon Cannabis Tax Act will restore the hemp industry. Hemp, made from the seeds and stems of the cannabis plant, can be used for food products, clothing, fuel, paper and more. This Act will continue Oregon’s legacy as a sustainability leader and create green jobs in a time when our economy is still struggling.

90% of the proceeds will go into the state general fund, 7% for drug treatment programs, 1% each for drug education in public schools, and two new state commissions to promote hemp biofuel and hemp fiber and food

DerailingDaTrain

08-19-2012, 10:44 PM

ClydeCoulter

08-19-2012, 10:46 PM

It seems that only the Oregon Cannabis Tax Act 2012 will restore industrial hemp.

Well, it seems if money is involved, you can move people to action. I wish it weren't so.

DamianTV

08-20-2012, 02:23 AM

Did you know...

That Marijuana has a higher approval rating than either Romney or Obama, but not Ron Paul?

Drex

08-20-2012, 06:00 AM

I think something like this will be on the ballot in Nebraska, no way it'll pass, but it's a start.

Travlyr

08-20-2012, 06:17 AM

Kelly.

08-20-2012, 11:21 AM

Why be in favor of regulating hemp? That is like being in favor of regulating gardens. The politicians are really not smarter than the people. There is no need to regulate hemp. It is a plant. It is the most Earth friendly green plant known to humankind. Your elected official will have thugs in uniforms with badges come to your door, bust it down, handcuff you, and throw you in prison for growing the most environmentally friendly green plant on Earth. Prison. A Cage. That's baloney. It doesn't need to be regulated or taxed. It needs to be legal to grow like tomatoes and peppers. Our elected officials need to be thrown in jail if they don't legalize it.
is regulated hemp production better then hemp prohibition?
i would say yes, as once you can get regulated hemp grown, and show people what it is capable producing (food fuel fiber etc), which will help lead to further deregulation. maybe that is just my wishful thinking.

i am more interested what the federal government will do when a states residence vote to legalize cannabis. will they override the citizenry? pull highway funding?
this will get interesting if we see any of these pass.

yes on 64 :)

DerailingDaTrain

08-20-2012, 05:19 PM

jct74

08-20-2012, 07:58 PM

this is an ad that started airing in Washington 2 weeks ago, $1 million ad buy
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/07/new-approach-washington-marijuana-ad_n_1751291.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aScUZgzFlTI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aScUZgzFlTI

RabbitMan

08-20-2012, 08:52 PM

It's definitely going to pass in WA. I've heard tales of polls showing 50%/40% a month and a half ago, now up to 60%/30%.

Dispensaries, and believe me these are the only people against the initiative, have been noting that you can get a DUI if you are driving erratically and have a certain level of THC in your blood. Here's all you need to know. This is a blood-test, i.e. they have to test you at the station. And if you get pulled over currently, you just get a DUI for any level of it. What's the difference? If you are driving erratically and smoked you deserve to get a DUI. Vote I-502!

DerailingDaTrain

08-20-2012, 09:05 PM

TheTexan

08-20-2012, 09:19 PM

It's taken decades to get them to even consider regulating it. Do you have any idea how many more decades it will take to convince them not to tax it?

Maybe we need to be more persuasive

Travlyr

08-20-2012, 09:44 PM

Maybe we need to be more persuasive

Before the Internet it was virtually impossible to spread the truth. Now it is everywhere even if not easily discerned. Being more persuasive is a good tactic. Persistence is the key.

jct74

08-20-2012, 11:17 PM

I updated the OP with a few other polls that were left out, if anyone comes across any more post them and I will add them as well. The support appears to be increasing in both Colorado and Washington, but these marijuana initiatives always seem to take a big hit in the last few weeks when the anti-marijuana scare tactics ramp up. California Proposition 19 was polling pretty well around this time in 2010, but by the beginning of October support had suddenly collapsed and it never returned.

http://ballotpedia.org/wiki/index.php/California_Proposition_19,_the_Marijuana_Legalizat ion_Initiative_(2010)#Polls

jct74

09-20-2012, 04:30 PM

here are some new polls that have been done in the last month, the Washington initiative is polling extremely well:

Colorado:
Denver Post / Survey USA (http://www.denverpost.com/news/marijuana/ci_21548398/colorado-marijuana-legalization-initiative-leads-new-pollt): 51% support, 40% oppose (September 2012)
Public Policy Polling (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/09/marijuana-amendment-leads-in-colorado.html): 47% support, 38% oppose (September 2012)

Washington:
Survey USA (http://blog.norml.org/2012/09/12/new-poll-washingtons-marijuana-legalization-initiative-i-502-holds-huge-lead/): 57% support, 34% oppose (September 2012)

Oregon:
Survey USA (http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=f35f6734-8377-4585-bb0e-a1a5fc418199): 37% support, 41% oppose (September 2012)

Massachusetts:
Suffolk University (http://blog.norml.org/2012/09/18/massachusetts-medical-marijuana-initiative-question-3-maintains-strong-lead/): 59% support, 35% oppose (September 2012)
Public Policy Polling (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/08/obama-up-in-massachusetts.html): 58% support, 27% oppose (August 2012)

Also, the medical marijuana initiative in Arkansas has qualified for the ballot!
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/arkansas-sends-medical-marijuana-law-to-the-ballot-20120824
http://ssdp.org/news/blog/arkansas-medical-marijuana-act-of-2012-makes-ballot/

http://ssdp.org/assets/2012/08/622326_513307265351424_984960596_o.jpg

A lawsuit has been filed to remove it from the ballot though so that hurdle remains:
http://www.kait8.com/story/19549897/lawsuit-stalls-medical-marijuana-ballot-issue-for-now

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ClydeCoulter

09-20-2012, 05:44 PM

here are some new polls that have been done in the last month, the Washington initiative is polling extremely well:
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A lawsuit has been filed to remove it from the ballot though so that hurdle remains:
http://www.kait8.com/story/19549897/lawsuit-stalls-medical-marijuana-ballot-issue-for-now

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Oh, those conservatives that believe in liberty if it's theirs oppose it?

jct74

09-20-2012, 07:37 PM

In Michigan, marijuana reform initiatives will be on the ballot in four different cities:
http://blog.norml.org/2012/09/11/michigan-four-cities-to-decide-on-marijuana-depenalization-ordinances/

Here is a summary:

Detroit, MI: Remove criminal penalties for possession on private property of up to one ounce of marijuana by adults by adults age 21 and older.

Website: http://saferdetroit.net/index.php

Vote YES on Detroit's Proposal M

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Flint, MI: Remove criminal penalties for possession on private property of up to one ounce of marijuana (or marijuana paraphernalia) by adults age 19 and older.

Vote YES on Flint's Decriminalization Question

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Grand Rapids, MI: Allow local law enforcement the discretion to ticket first-time marijuana offenders with a civil citation, punishable by a $25 fine and no criminal record.

Website: http://decriminalizegr.org/

Vote YES on the Grand Rapids Proposal 2

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Ypsilanti, MI: make the local enforcement of marijuana possession offenses the city’s lowest law enforcement priority.

Vote YES on Ypsilanti's LLEP Question

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liberty2897

09-20-2012, 08:13 PM

Writing-in Ron Paul and voting yes on I-502 here in Washington when my ballot shows up!

jct74

09-20-2012, 08:18 PM

In Springfield, MO there was supposed to be an initiative on the ballot to 1) lower penalties for possession of up to 1 1/4 ounces of cannabis to a maximum $150 fine 2) require the city council to create an oversight committee to monitor implementation of the ordinance and 3) allow automatic expungement of convictions for possession of up to 1 1/4 ounces of cannabis or cannabis paraphernalia two years after a plea of guilty or conviction. The city council in Springfield is up to some shenanigans though and may not allow it to be on the ballot or may water it down, you can read more about it here:

http://blog.norml.org/2012/08/28/springfield-city-council-passes-marijuana-decriminalization-initiative-may-be-amended/
http://stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle/2012/aug/28/springfield_missouri_decriminali
http://www.theweedblog.com/springfield-news-leader-urges-city-council-to-respect-democracy/

ClydeCoulter

09-20-2012, 08:51 PM

For non-violent crimes:

Open the Prisons, Open the Jails

Let Freedom Ring

edit: I could not stand it, I'm too excited to see this happening in so many places

KerriAnn

09-20-2012, 09:15 PM

So, does this help the HEMP situation? I don't want to be regulated, even though I don't smoke mary-jane anymore, haven't for decades (not that I wouldn't like to, but causes heart palpitations). But I would grow hemp for industrial uses though.
The fact that you call it mary-jane is evidence enough that you have not smoked it for many years. I'm sorry, so sorry, I couldn't help myself! I'm feeling a little rambunctious! ;)

jct74

09-20-2012, 09:47 PM

looks like medical marijuana will probably be on the ballot in North Dakota too.

read more:
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505245_162-57488076/nd-likely-to-debate-medical-marijuana-proposal/

North Dakota medical marijuana initiative will not be on the ballot. Secretary of State ruled fraud had been committed and disqualified a large number of signatures, then the case was appealed to North Dakota Supreme Court and they refused to intervene.

http://www.therepublic.com/view/story/63b16fd6c3394cf18e0e465e090572c6/ND--Supreme-Court-Medical-Marijuana

jct74

09-20-2012, 10:02 PM

In Washington, I-502 was recently endorsed by the Seattle Times:
http://seattletimes.com/html/editorials/2018941436_editmarijuanalegalizationxml.html
http://seattletimes.com/html/editorials/2019087007_edit07marijuanalegalization502xml.html
http://seattletimes.com/html/editorials/2019226555_editmarijuanainitiative502xml.html

and Seattle mayor Mike McGinn:
http://mynorthwest.com/75/726806/Seattle-Mayor-Mike-McGinn-voting-yes-on-pot-Initiative-502

In Colorado, Amendment 64 was endorsed by the regional NAACP branch:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/23/naacp-backs-marijuana-leg_n_1824351.html

jct74

09-20-2012, 11:30 PM

looks like some dirty tricks are being played in Colorado:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/10/campaign-to-regulate-mari_n_1870356.html
http://www.denverpost.com/news/marijuana/ci_21510390/editorial-panel-erred-blue-book-edits
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/13/colorado-marijuana-legali_n_1881852.html

jct74

09-21-2012, 12:24 AM

this is pretty hilarious - spoof anti-marijuana website causing a stir in massachusetts:
http://www.telegram.com/article/20120913/NEWS/120919728/1116
http://votenoonquestion3.org/

libertariantexas

09-21-2012, 11:07 AM

I hope to one day have a chance to vote for more progressive marijuana laws here in Texas some day, but I guess I won't have a chance this year.

Good luck to those who will have it on the ballot!

ClydeCoulter

09-21-2012, 11:17 AM

this is pretty hilarious - spoof anti-marijuana website causing a stir in massachusetts:
http://www.telegram.com/article/20120913/NEWS/120919728/1116
http://votenoonquestion3.org/

Yes, that is funny. It appears the opposition listed that url as their opposition site, then changed their mind. It was then picked up and used by a pro group :)

jct74

09-30-2012, 12:23 AM

Stop the Drug War has listed a few more local initiatives on the ballot that were left out by NORML Smoke the Vote (http://norml.org/about/smoke-the-vote#state).

http://stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle/2012/sep/06/drug_policy_2012_elections_i_ini

here are the additional ones:

Kalamazoo, MI - Voters will decide whether to allow the opening of 3 medical marijuana dispensaries (http://www.mlive.com/news/kalamazoo/index.ssf/2012/07/kalamazoo_will_vote_in_novembe.html) in the city.

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California - A number of towns, mostly in the San Diego area, will vote on local initiatives to allow medical marijuana dispensaries. Those include Del Mar, Imperial Beach, Lemon Grove, and Solana Beach, as well as Palo Alto. The town of Dunsmuir will vote on whether to loosen cultivation regulations.

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Colorado - Fort Collins will be voting on whether to overturn the ban on dispensaries voted in last November, and Berthoud will be voting on whether to allow dispensaries.

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Massachusetts - In a continuation of work done in the past six election cycles, voters in a number of legislative districts will be asked a non-binding public policy question. In the First Essex and Middlesex Senate District, the Eighth Essex House District, and the Twenty-Second Essex House District voters will be asked whether they support repeal of the "federal prohibition of marijuana, as the 21st Amendment repealed national prohibition of alcohol, so that states may regulate it as they choose?" Voters in the Second Middlesex Senate District, the Middlesex and Suffolk Senate District, and the Second Berkshire House District will answer a similar question.

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Washington - Voters in six cities -- Bellingham, Bremerton, Everett, Kent, Olympia, and Spokane -- will vote on initiatives to make marijuana the lowest law enforcement priority and prohibit local officials from cooperating with federal marijuana law enforcement activities.

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jct74

09-30-2012, 01:00 AM

the medical marijuana initiative in Arkansas will be on the ballot after all - it has cleared all legal hurdles after the Arkansas Supreme Court rejected efforts to have it removed.

Arkansas Medical Marijuana Proposal Approved For Ballot Vote

By ANDREW DeMILLO, Associated Press
09/27/12 12:48 PM ET EDT

http://i.huffpost.com/gen/791191/thumbs/r-ARKANSAS-MEDICAL-MARIJUANA-large570.jpg

LITTLE ROCK, Ark. — The Arkansas Supreme Court on Thursday upheld a proposed ballot measure that, if successful, would make the state the first in the South to legalize medical marijuana.

Justices rejected a challenge by a coalition of conservative groups who had asked the court to block the proposed initiated act from the November ballot or order the state to not count any votes cast on the issue.

The measure would allow patients with qualifying conditions to buy marijuana from nonprofit dispensaries with a doctor's recommendation. The proposal acknowledges that marijuana is still illegal under federal law, but the Coalition to Preserve Arkansas Values argued that it doesn't adequately explain that approved users could still face federal prosecution.

"We hold that it is an adequate and fair representation without misleading tendencies or partisan coloring," the court wrote. "Therefore, the act is proper for inclusion on the ballot at the general election on Nov. 6, 2012, and the petition is therefore denied."

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read more:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/27/arkansas-medical-marijuana_n_1919622.html

sounds like from the article it's going to be a tough battle to get this one passed in the middle of the Bible Belt. if it wins that's a huge victory though.

emazur

09-30-2012, 01:24 AM

Tom Tancredo (former GOP Congressman in CO) is on board w/ legalization:
http://www.wnd.com/2012/09/state-level-marijuana-legalization-yes/

Peace Piper

09-30-2012, 08:17 AM

they said the same thing in CA last cycle. It was polling favorably for the whole damn election cycle and in the last 2 weeks the favorability tanked and it didn't end up passing. I'm hoping that doesn't happen again but i'm not counting on it getting passed in any state yet.

The "favoribility" tanked because thankfully the word got out that Prop 19 was a scam.

Since when does "legalization" = 1 ounce or less in "possession"?

Since when does "legalization" = 4 square feet *PER RESIDENCE* for "cultivation"? (if you can't see cops with tape measures here you haven't been paying attention)

Since when does "legalization" = a few insiders who pay appropriate tax/extortion fees get to dominate the market (see Richard "Dick" Lee, chief sponsor of prop 19)

Extensively documented here:
http://votetaxcannabis2010.blogspot.com/2010/07/why-pro-pot-activists-oppose-2010-tax.html

"...Stoners Against the Prop. 19 Tax Cannabis Initiative

this blog takes an intelligent approach to evaluating the 2010 tax cannabis initiative proposed for california's november ballot. STONER BEWARE: this initiative is NOT what you think it is. if you are passionate about marijuana and legalization, read this blog and see what the initiative really says. then just vote KNOW..."

The worst thing about prop 19 is that those that were warning that it was bad law were attacked by newbies who didn't know how to read legislation and believed that anything that said "legalize marijuana" was a good thing.

And now we have WA I-502

Wherein growing a single plant would become a felony. and no "private sales" are allowed. And 1 gram over an ounce is treated just like it is TODAY.

Somehow, this is being sold as "legalization". This is a prime example of how the media can mislead well meaning people and turn them on their fellow citizens.

Because, as witnessed by Prop 19, those that try to point out the fact that this initiative would make things worse than the present existing law will be accused of being LEOS, or Lazy Growers, or infiltrators.

WA 502 will make things worse, and if you love freedom you had better hope it fails. Because if an authoritarian law like this passes in one state, others are sure to duplicate it.

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"...Under "Arrests," the chart tells us "If I-502 passes in WA on November 6th," "NO ARRESTS," and then in smaller print, "as long as you're complying with the new law." Gee, Rob, how many law degrees do you have, again?

It's much the same with the rest of the chart. Under "Penalty for Wholesale Cultivation," it's "NO PENALTY if you have a marijuana producer's license." What the chart doesn't tell you is that after an initial $250 setup fee, "marijuana producer's licenses" will cost $1,000 per year (expect this number to go up quickly.)

Even the chart has to admit that the penalty for growing your own "Doesn't change from current law. Manufacture becomes legal for licensed producers, not for home growers."

http://www.tokeofthetown.com/2012/09/mpps_kampia_publishes_misleading_chart_about_i-502.php

The "No On I-502" Committee has announced a Wednesday press conference "to clarify, once and for all, our opposition to I-502 and to debunk the propaganda from NAW, and some in the press, that we represent some mysterious, greedy group of marijuana business interests that they've failed to specifically identify."

Speakers at the press conference will include top marijuana attorneys Jeffrey Steinborn, Aaron Pelley and Douglas Hiatt, who will address the facts surrounding both legalization issues and the "per se" DUID provisions of I-502, including the dramatic impact this law will have on tens of thousands of voters in Washington state.

"This law will have tragic effects, especially for young people, the poor, and young men of color who are the traditional targets of law enforcement profiling," said Steinborn. "The patients are protesting because they know that they'll also be targeted under this initiative."

(PP: If you are not familiar with Steinborn, you are probably a newbie to legalization, he is not an ambulance chaser)

Steve Sarich, No On I-502: "Our opposition to the initiative is primarily focused on the DUID provision of the bill that will criminalize thousands of Washington State medical cannabis patients and young people that are not, by any standard, impaired" said Steve Sarich, spokesman for the campaign against I-502. "Even I-502 supporters have admitted that the scientific evidence does not support this arbitrary limit and the only reason that this was added was for political, and not public safety, reasons."

http://www.tokeofthetown.com/2012/09/i-502_opponents_decry_legalization_misinformation.ph p#more

http://www.nooni502.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/502.png

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How can an initiative be called "legalization" when it makes it a felony to grow what is supposed to be "legalized"?

In a dumbed down America anything is possible...

The bottom line is that Cannabis is an Herb and anyone in a Free Country should be able to grow whatever they want.

And for the tax crowd, the Government needs to be punished for their lies and the only way to do that is to withhold tax revenue. So F&C* the taxers, at least until this country stops spending $2000 per second bombing and invading foreign lands.

Jury Nullification is one way

Tudo

09-30-2012, 02:24 PM

Did you know...

That Marijuana has a higher approval rating than either Romney or Obama, but not Ron Paul?

http://vietventures.com/Images/SMILIES/viking.gif

Tudo

09-30-2012, 02:28 PM

I hope to one day have a chance to vote for more progressive marijuana laws here in Texas some day, but I guess I won't have a chance this year.

Good luck to those who will have it on the ballot!

Ditto and here in Fla we're waiting for the other 49 states to completely legalize it and see how it goes for a while before they consider thinking about having a discussion about it it seems.

jct74

09-30-2012, 03:08 PM

Tom Tancredo (former GOP Congressman in CO) is on board w/ legalization:
http://www.wnd.com/2012/09/state-level-marijuana-legalization-yes/

yes, he has actually been a proponent of legalizing marijuana for a while but he announced his support for Amendment 64 just last week and sent letters to Republican members of the Colorado state legislature urging their support.
http://blogs.denverpost.com/thespot/2012/09/21/tom-tancredo-backs-marijuana-ballot-measure/82193/

There was also a press conference in Colorado last week where members of the Colorado law enforcement community announced their support for the measure.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/20/marijuana-legalization-ba_n_1900974.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/21/roger-sherman-head-of-ant_n_1904588.html

Brian4Liberty

09-30-2012, 03:19 PM

Working Poor

09-30-2012, 03:32 PM

AGRP

09-30-2012, 04:12 PM

Since when does "legalization" = 4 square feet *PER RESIDENCE* for "cultivation"? (if you can't see cops with tape measures here you haven't been paying attention)

I see where this is going. Only corporations or big pharma will be allowed to grow however much they want.

Peace Piper

10-01-2012, 10:16 AM

I see where this is going. Only corporations or big pharma will be allowed to grow however much they want.

Looks like that's what is going on with this patent on the use of a part of the Cannabis plant (cannabinoids)
Since a plant itself can't be patented (although Monsanto's lawyers are probably working on that) the "use" of it can, and has been patented. According to at least one doctor, this patent is being used to stifle research.

Cannabinoids as antioxidants and neuroprotectants

United States Patent 6,630,507
Hampson , et al. October 7, 2003
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=6630507.PN.&OS=PN/6630507&RS=PN/6630507

Cannabinoids have been found to have antioxidant properties, unrelated to NMDA receptor antagonism. This new found property makes cannabinoids useful in the treatment and prophylaxis of wide variety of oxidation associated diseases, such as ischemic, age-related, inflammatory and autoimmune diseases.

The cannabinoids are found to have particular application as neuroprotectants, for example in limiting neurological damage following ischemic insults, such as stroke and trauma, or in the treatment of neurodegenerative diseases, such as Alzheimer's disease, Parkinson's disease and HIV dementia. (more with extensive footnotes at link)
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=6630507.PN.&OS=PN/6630507&RS=PN/6630507

The feds know all about the health benefits of the plant. Take a look at the footnotes in the patent.

What is astounding is that apparently no reporter in the nation can take the time or trouble to ask Herr Holder why, if as he states "there is no medical use of Marijuana" the Gov that he represents holds a patent on the use of the plant.

Simply astounding.

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Hempen Sails powered the USS Constitution!
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jct74

10-03-2012, 06:24 PM

this is the first ad that will be airing from the Campaign to Regulate Marijuana Like Alcohol (http://www.regulatemarijuana.org/) (the main group in Colorado pushing for Amendment 64)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KAOq7XX2OY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KAOq7XX2OY

jct74

10-14-2012, 12:06 AM

I added some new polls to the OP and have reposted the polling data below, making note of which polls have been added since the last time this thread was updated. Still polling good in Colorado and extremely well in Washington and Massachusetts, but not too well in Montana where the medical marijuana repeal measure has a double digit lead. The most recent poll in Colorado I don't know how much it matters because they did not ask about Amendment 64 specifically, just marijuana legalization in general, and it does not match the other polling data.

Colorado

PollsterSubject Polled
Support
Oppose
Lead
Date
Quinnipiac / CBS / NYT (http://www.scribd.com/fullscreen/109655473?access_key=key-2mzy8kdhx8dbdt8y5ik6) (new)legalizing marijuana
45
46
-1
10/4 - 10/9
University of Denver / Seltzer (http://blog.norml.org/2012/10/09/one-month-before-the-election-colorado-marijuana-legalization-still-up-ten-points/) (new)Amendment 64
50
40
+10
10/4 - 10/5
Denver Post / Survey USA (http://www.denverpost.com/news/marijuana/ci_21548398/colorado-marijuana-legalization-initiative-leads-new-pollt)Amendment 64
51
40
+11
9/09 - 9/12
Public Policy Polling (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/09/marijuana-amendment-leads-in-colorado.html)Amendment 64
47
38
+9
8/31 - 9/02
Public Policy Polling (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/08/co-voters-favor-assault-weapons-ban-legal-pot-civil-unions.html)Amendment 64
47
38
+9
8/02 - 8/05
Public Policy Polling (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/06/hickenlooper-remains-one-of-most-popular-governors.html)Amendment 64
46
42
+4
6/14 - 6/17
Rasmussen Reports (http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_state_surveys/colorado/61_in_colorado_favor_legalizing_regulating_marijua na)regulating marijuana like alcohol
61
27
+34
6/06
Public Policy Polling (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2011/12/colorado-favors-gay-marriage-marijuana-use-loves-tebow.html)legalizing marijuana
49
40
+9
Dec. 2011

Washington

PollsterSubject Polled
Support
Oppose
Lead
Date
King 5 / SurveyUSA (http://www.nwcn.com/home/?fId=172885681&fPath=/news/local&fDomain=10212) (new)Initiative 502
57
33
+24
9/28 - 9/30
Elway Research (http://blog.seattlepi.com/seattlepolitics/2012/09/17/gay-marriage-pot-legalization-gain-elway-poll/) (new)Initiative 502
50
38
+12
9/08 - 9/12
King 5 / Survey USA (http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=07b89034-43b1-4d60-8d0f-2982bd314434)Initiative 502
57
34
+23
9/07 - 9/09
King 5 / SurveyUSA (http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=2786ebbd-3348-4795-b0a8-0ee124a9707d)Initiative 502
55
32
+23
7/16 - 7/17
Public Policy Polling (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/06/mckenna-takes-lead-in-wa-gubernatorial-race.html)Initiative 502
50
37
+13
6/14 - 6/17
Public Policy Polling (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/02/washington-governors-race-a-dead-heat.html)Initiative 502
47
39
+8
2/16 - 2/19
Elway Research (http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2017162013_marijuana05m.html)Initiative 502
48
45
+3
Jan. 2012

Oregon

PollsterSubject Polled
Support
Oppose
Lead
Date
KATU / Survey USA (http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=f35f6734-8377-4585-bb0e-a1a5fc418199)Measure 80
37
41
-4
9/10 - 9/13
Public Policy Polling (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/07/oregon-divided-on-gay-marriage.html)legalizing marijuana
43
46
-3
6/21 - 6/24

Massachusetts

PollsterSubject Polled
Support
Oppose
Lead
Date
Public Policy Polling (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/10/warren-lead-up-to-6-points-obamas-down-to-14.html) (new)Question 3
57
31
+26
10/9 - 10/11
Boston Globe / UNH Survey Center (http://blog.norml.org/2012/10/09/massachusetts-medical-marijuana-initiative-set-to-win-in-a-landslide/) (new)Question 3
69
22
+47
9/21 - 9/27
Suffolk University / 7NEWS (http://blog.norml.org/2012/09/18/massachusetts-medical-marijuana-initiative-question-3-maintains-strong-lead/)Question 3
59
35
+24
9/13 - 9/16
Public Policy Polling (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/08/obama-up-in-massachusetts.html)Question 3
58
27
+31
8/16 - 8/19
Public Policy Polling (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/06/ma-okay-with-gay-marriage-sox-fans-with-bobby-v.html)legalizing medical marijuana
57
33
+24
6/22 - 6/24
Public Policy Polling (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/03/massachusetts-voters-happy-with-gay-marriage.html)generic proposal to legalize MMJ
53
35
+18
3/16 - 3/18

Arkansas

PollsterSubject Polled
Support
Oppose
Lead
Date
Talk Business-Hendrix College (http://talkbusiness.net/2012/07/arkansans-split-views-on-health-care-medicaid-medical-marijuana/)Issue 5
47
46
+1
7/19

Montana

PollsterSubject Polled
Support
Oppose
Lead
Date
Public Policy Polling (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/10/toss-ups-in-several-montana-statewide-races-.html) (new)Initiative Referendum 124
44
30
+14
10/8 -10/10
Mason Dixon (http://helenair.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/elections/voters-back-restrictions-on-cannabis-strong-majority-favors-notification-law/article_0a7aaf76-0486-11e2-8a41-001a4bcf887a.html) (new)Initiative Referendum 124
44
31
+13
9/22 (?)
Public Policy Polling (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/09/bullock-edges-hill-for-montana-governor.html) (new)Initiative Referendum 124
46
29
+17
9/10 - 9/11

jct74

10-14-2012, 01:15 AM

two new TV ads in Washington

Watch the Two New Commercials to Legalize Marijuana
posted by DOMINIC HOLDEN on WED, OCT 10, 2012 at 11:23 AM

This is a big deal: The new ads for Initiative 502 that begin airing today, which encourage Washington to become the first state to legalize marijuana, star former federal law enforcement.

I know—if you watch politics around here, you know they're on board and their endorsement seems... banal. Don't be jaded. Former US Attorneys John McKay and Kate Pflaumer, along with the FBI's Charlie Mandigo, make the most persuasive case for legalization: Pot laws result in using limited law enforcement resources that should instead be focused on violent crime.

Every time that pot legalization—even decriminalization—has gone to voters in other states, federal law enforcement have delivered the coup de grace, largely by virtue of their credibility. This time, it's the opposite. These prosecutors and an agent get in the first word for legalization, and with $1 million in the bank and up to $2 million more on the way, the New Approach Washington campaign is going to hit this message hard. This is a coup.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8op7WaRPjHg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tBWgFo8KpA

http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2012/10/10/watch-the-two-new-commercials-to-legalize-marijuana

Peace Piper

10-14-2012, 03:47 AM

two new TV ads in Washington

502 is not "legalization". It is a carefully constructed ploy to sell "legalization" to the masses, while giving LEO's and State Licensing Bureaucrats even more authority than they have now. A peek at who is supporting this nonsense might be instructive, unless one has already made up their mind.

"...The initiative would legalize use of marijuana products purchased from state authorized sources for adults 21 and over... Unlicensed cannabis will still be illegal, including personal "grows" in one's own home, except for medical cannabis as regulated under RCW 69.51A. (Growing a single plant without a "license"=felony=WORSE THAN THE EXISTING LAW-PP)

"...Part I identifies the goal of the initiative and authorizes the Washington State Liquor Control Board "to regulate and tax marijuana for persons twenty-one years of age and older, and add a new threshold for driving under the influence of marijuana." (20 yrs old with half an ounce? NO DIFFERENCE-PP)

"...Part III establishes a license system for marijuana producers, processors and retailers. Initial licenses shall be $250 with an annual renewal fee of $1000. (that won't change, nope-PP)

"...Part V on "driving under the influence of marijuana" sets a per se DUI limit of active blood THC levels at greater than or equal to 5 nanograms per milliliter. Some medical cannabis advocates are concerned that this will lead to DUI convictions for medicinal cannabis users, who are driving with blood THC levels greater than or equal to 5 nanograms per milliliter.[12] If a suspect's blood tests for more than 5 nanograms/ml, under I-502 they would be guilty of DUI by definition, as opposed to the current law, RCW 46.61.502(1)(a) which requires proof of "impairment" for a conviction. .[13][14]

"...No on I-502 is the primary group opposing Initiative 502. Their website denounces what they describe as I-502's "new approach to prohibition", and describes how the DUID provisions of I-502 may actually increase the potential penalty for marijuana use, and lead to a new era in the war on drugs under color of DUID prosecutions, as part of what they describe as a nationwide strategy to move war on drugs from the current focus on sales and possession to a new and more ominous offensive on drivers via new per se DUID laws like I-502. NoOn502 Website http://www.nooni502.com/wordpress/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_Initiative_502

Should pot be legal? NO: Voters should hold out for real reform, not fall for this narrow proposal

Washington voters are being told a big lie. New Approach Washington, the campaign behind Initiative 502, is advertising that it will “legalize” marijuana. It would not.

It creates a very narrow exception that defines the possession of one ounce by adults over 21, and the state’s rules for production, as “not a violation” of the law.

I-502 leaves every single law now making marijuana illegal on the books. Walk out of the state-sanctioned, licensed and taxed store and hand the marijuana to your significant other and it is a delivery of marijuana. This is not comprehensive, real reform.

What I-502 does change is our DUI law. Our current DUI laws are working just fine and result in conviction rates of over 90 percent. This initiative sets unneeded, unasked for and unscientific levels for impairment for adults (5 nanograms, rejected three times by the Colorado Legislature), while establishing a zero-tolerance provision for all drivers 16 to 21.

It also takes away your ability to defend yourself. If you meet the levels, you are guilty. No explaining that you are a patient, no arguing about the levels or tolerance, nothing. For drivers age 16 to 21, any detectable amount of marijuana will result in a DUI conviction and disastrous effects on their parents’ insurance.

This is not based on impairment; it is simply a new penalty for marijuana for kids. But it is a very impactful one for parents with teenage drivers. What parent wants to face the requirements for insurance and the expense of a DUI, all because of some youthful experimentation?...MORE

Douglas Hiatt is a Seattle-based criminal defense attorney and a co-founder of Sensible Washington, which opposes Initiative 502 and advocates for legalization of hemp and cannabis

http://www.theolympian.com/2012/10/07/2278108/should-pot-be-legal-no-voters.html

*******

Everyone that loves freedom better hope this LEO sponsored POS fails or it might just come to your state.

Remember, the Feds own a patent on the use (http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=6630507.PN.&OS=PN/6630507&RS=PN/6630507) of the plant and they will protect it, regardless of what any state does.

Grow a single plant in WA? if you don't have a Medical recommendation or a license, it's a felony.

And Leos are selling this as "legalization".

Don't buy it.

jct74

10-14-2012, 02:33 PM

here's two new radio ads airing in Colorado narrated by Mellisa Etheridge and Tom Tancredo. I really like the Tancredo ad.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4UmVguKe_A

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVedreyiK5U

Gravik

10-14-2012, 04:03 PM

As far as I am concerned, if you cannot grow it, then it isn't really legal.

Keith and stuff

10-14-2012, 04:15 PM

Still polling good in Colorado and extremely well in Washington and Massachusetts, but not too well in Montana where the medical marijuana repeal measure has a double digit lead.

Montana

PollsterSubject Polled
Support
Oppose
Lead
Date
Public Policy Polling (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/10/toss-ups-in-several-montana-statewide-races-.html) (new)Initiative Referendum 124
44
30
+14
10/8 -10/10
Mason Dixon (http://helenair.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/elections/voters-back-restrictions-on-cannabis-strong-majority-favors-notification-law/article_0a7aaf76-0486-11e2-8a41-001a4bcf887a.html) (new)Initiative Referendum 124
44
31
+13
9/22 (?)
Public Policy Polling (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/09/bullock-edges-hill-for-montana-governor.html) (new)Initiative Referendum 124
46
29
+17
9/10 - 9/11

So this is the 1 state that could actually got worse?

GeorgiaAvenger

10-14-2012, 04:16 PM

People need to be educated on the difference between hemp and marijuana. Even people in the liberty movement get them confused.

Dianne

10-14-2012, 06:30 PM

I would be shocked if these passed.. Actually, the truth of the matter is drugs are reserved for only the wealthy..

I don't think half of the Congress.... and I know Obama/Biden/Holder/Geitner could ever pass a drug test; I would bet my life on that.. Drugs are now the property of the Bourgeoisie . Why do you think our druggies in Obama's Admin. would arm hundreds of drug runners with the most sophisticated weapons out there? To supply their stash... and yet, they throw any one in prison, within the U.S. who wishes to compete.

jct74

10-21-2012, 08:55 PM

Some new polls below show the race tightening in Colorado and Washington, still doing poorly in Oregon.

Colorado

PollsterSubject Polled
Support
Oppose
Lead
Date
Denver Post / SurveyUSA (http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=c33f6e0a-00b5-4764-8ee2-525a01ca58b0) (new)Amendment 64
48
43
+5
10/9 - 10/10
Quinnipiac / CBS / NYT (http://www.scribd.com/fullscreen/109655473?access_key=key-2mzy8kdhx8dbdt8y5ik6)legalizing marijuana
45
46
-1
10/4 - 10/9
University of Denver / Seltzer (http://blog.norml.org/2012/10/09/one-month-before-the-election-colorado-marijuana-legalization-still-up-ten-points/)Amendment 64
50
40
+10
10/4 - 10/5
Denver Post / SurveyUSA (http://www.denverpost.com/news/marijuana/ci_21548398/colorado-marijuana-legalization-initiative-leads-new-pollt)Amendment 64
51
40
+11
9/09 - 9/12
Public Policy Polling (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/09/marijuana-amendment-leads-in-colorado.html)Amendment 64
47
38
+9
8/31 - 9/02
Public Policy Polling (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/08/co-voters-favor-assault-weapons-ban-legal-pot-civil-unions.html)Amendment 64
47
38
+9
8/02 - 8/05
Public Policy Polling (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/06/hickenlooper-remains-one-of-most-popular-governors.html)Amendment 64
46
42
+4
6/14 - 6/17
Rasmussen Reports (http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_state_surveys/colorado/61_in_colorado_favor_legalizing_regulating_marijua na)regulating marijuana like alcohol
61
27
+34
6/06
Public Policy Polling (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2011/12/colorado-favors-gay-marriage-marijuana-use-loves-tebow.html)legalizing marijuana
49
40
+9
Dec. 2011

Washington

PollsterSubject Polled
Support
Oppose
Lead
Date
King 5 / SurveyUSA (http://www.king5.com/news/up-front/polls/KING-5-poll-Initiatives-still-ahead-AG-race-now-a-toss-up-174837961.html) (new)Initiative 502
55
36
+19
10/12 - 10/14
KCTS 9 Washington (http://kcts9.org/sites/default/files/kcts9wapoll2012_oct18_results.pdf) (new)Initiative 502
47
40
+7
10/1 - 10/16
King 5 / SurveyUSA (http://www.nwcn.com/home/?fId=172885681&fPath=/news/local&fDomain=10212)Initiative 502
57
33
+24
9/28 - 9/30
Elway Research (http://blog.seattlepi.com/seattlepolitics/2012/09/17/gay-marriage-pot-legalization-gain-elway-poll/)Initiative 502
50
38
+12
9/08 - 9/12
King 5 / SurveyUSA (http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=07b89034-43b1-4d60-8d0f-2982bd314434)Initiative 502
57
34
+23
9/07 - 9/09
King 5 / SurveyUSA (http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=2786ebbd-3348-4795-b0a8-0ee124a9707d)Initiative 502
55
32
+23
7/16 - 7/17
Public Policy Polling (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/06/mckenna-takes-lead-in-wa-gubernatorial-race.html)Initiative 502
50
37
+13
6/14 - 6/17
Public Policy Polling (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/02/washington-governors-race-a-dead-heat.html)Initiative 502
47
39
+8
2/16 - 2/19
Elway Research (http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2017162013_marijuana05m.html)Initiative 502
48
45
+3
Jan. 2012

Oregon

PollsterSubject Polled
Support
Oppose
Lead
Date
KATU / SurveyUSA (http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=242a16b4-1a4c-47eb-a09e-52040667cc42) (new)Measure 80
36
43
-7
10/16 - 10/18
KATU / SurveyUSA (http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=f35f6734-8377-4585-bb0e-a1a5fc418199)Measure 80
37
41
-4
9/10 - 9/13
Public Policy Polling (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/07/oregon-divided-on-gay-marriage.html)legalizing marijuana
43
46
-3
6/21 - 6/24

jct74

10-21-2012, 08:57 PM

So this is the 1 state that could actually got worse?

yes, if Initiative Referendum 124 / SB 423 passes I'm not sure what the exact consequences will be but it will be a major setback to medical marijuana in Montana.

trey4sports

10-21-2012, 09:04 PM

i would still rather there be a state-sanctioned model than blanket illegality.

tod evans

10-22-2012, 03:36 AM

I've been pushing for legalization/decriminalization since the '70's.

It would be fantastic if these bills pass but it's only a start.....

jct74

10-22-2012, 02:59 PM

new TV ad in Colorado, this is the 2nd major TV ad they will be airing

Tony Ryan, Former Denver Cop: 'Regulating Marijuana Will Allow Law Enforcement To Direct Resources Toward Serious Crime'

By Matt Ferner
Posted: 10/18/2012 3:42 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzTGdoHOl80

A new ad released by the pro-pot advocates behind Colorado's Amendment 64 -- a November ballot measure that seeks an end to marijuana prohibition in the state -- features retired, highly decorated 36-year-veteran of the Denver Police Department Lt. Tony Ryan who says the regulation of marijuana will lead to "safer communities."

That's the theme of the second ad from the Campaign to Regulate Marijuana Like Alcohol camp: that marijuana does not lead to violent crime and that by allowing law enforcement to stop focusing on pot busts and instead freeing up their resources to be focused on serious crime, communities in Colorado will be safer.

"In my 36 years as a police officer in Denver, I can't recall a single incident where marijuana was a cause of violence," Ryan says in the spot. Citing data from the FBI Uniform Crime Reports, the ad states that although Ryan says marijuana use did not lead to violent crimes, there have been over 50,000 marijuana arrests in Colorado since 2007.

Ryan goes on to state that he believes regulating the sale of marijuana will allow law enforcement to set new priorities and "direct resources toward serious crime."

...

read more:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/18/tony-ryan-ex-denver-polic_n_1981232.html

jct74

10-23-2012, 12:10 AM

first TV ad in Arkansas

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UO__RJyn-7s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UO__RJyn-7s

jct74

10-23-2012, 12:21 AM

Montel speaks out on Arkansas initiative

Talk show host Williams: Opponents of Ark. medical marijuana resorting to ‘racist’ imagery

http://media.kansascity.com/smedia/2012/10/18/16/07/430-Zx837.St.55.jpeg

By Associated Press, Published: October 18

LITTLE ROCK, Ark. — Talk show host Montel Williams on Thursday accused opponents of an Arkansas ballot measure that would legalize medical marijuana of resorting to “racist” imagery with a television ad featuring an African-American actor portraying a drug dealer.

Williams, an outspoken supporter of medical marijuana, appeared Thursday at the state Capitol alongside members of Arkansans for Compassionate Care, which is campaigning for Arkansas’ legalization measure on the Nov. 6 ballot. He criticized an ad aired by a conservative group opposing the proposal.

“Offensive is really an understatement. It’s the most egregiously racist, false statement you’ve ever seen in your life,” Williams told a crowd gathered in front of the state Capitol steps. “They’ve people sitting in a picture holding guns, talking about medical marijuana, and of course they happen to be of different colors to make sure you’re as irritated and angry as you can be.”

...

The Family Council Action Committee said it paid about $1,000 for airtime to run a 30-second spot opposing the measure. The committee is part of the Coalition to Preserve Arkansas Values, which unsuccessfully sued to try and get the medical marijuana proposal off the ballot. The ad at one point shows a black actor sitting at a table with guns and filling bags with marijuana.

...

read more:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/talk-show-host-montel-williams-campaigns-for-medical-marijuana-ballot-measure-in-arkansas/2012/10/18/84f6c9e6-193b-11e2-ad4a-e5a958b60a1e_story.html

here is the TV ad in question

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z14t6KtmVLw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z14t6KtmVLw

Icymudpuppy

10-23-2012, 07:36 AM

502 is not "legalization".
"...The initiative would legalize use of marijuana products purchased from state authorized sources for adults 21 and over... Unlicensed cannabis will still be illegal, including personal "grows" in one's own home, except for medical cannabis as regulated under RCW 69.51A. (Growing a single plant without a "license"=felony=WORSE THAN THE EXISTING LAW-PP)

Just like alcohol in WA. You still can't distill your own. It was only sold by state owned liquor stores until just last year. Still a hell of a lot better than prohibition.

True, I still can't grow my own MJ unless I'm a medical marijuana prescription holder, but I CAN GROW MY OWN INDUSTRIAL HEMP! And I plan to do so. 10 acres to start, if it profits well, I'll put more acreage into Hemp.

tod evans

10-23-2012, 07:40 AM

What an insane and misleading video.

Shameful!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z14t6KtmVLw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z14t6KtmVLw

Origanalist

10-23-2012, 07:46 AM

Just like alcohol in WA. You still can't distill your own. It was only sold by state owned liquor stores until just last year. Still a hell of a lot better than prohibition.

True, I still can't grow my own MJ unless I'm a medical marijuana prescription holder, but I CAN GROW MY OWN INDUSTRIAL HEMP! And I plan to do so. 10 acres to start, if it profits well, I'll put more acreage into Hemp.

Have you checked out this?

http://www.nooni502.com/wordpress/faq-5

Or this?

http://www.nooni502.com/wordpress/archives/559

jct74

10-23-2012, 05:37 PM

What an insane and misleading video.

Shameful!

there was some more shameful anti-marijuana advertisements in Oregon recently, but the billboards pictured below actually got taken down by Clear Channel after people complained it was misleading.

http://www.adweek.com/files/imagecache/node-blog/blogs/marijuana.jpg

Controversial anti-marijuana billboards around the Portland area featuring a haggard looking child have all been taken down, Clear Channel Outdoor confirmed on Friday.

The eight billboards have been up for about two weeks, said Dan Dhruva, vice president of real estate and public affairs at the Portland branch of Clear Channel Outdoor.

He said Clear Channel decided to remove the billboards after complaints, because it was not clear who was behind the ads. Clear Channel has no position on Ballot Measure 80, which would legalize marijuana.

"The ads protesting marijuana are being removed because our policy is transparency of advertising campaigns and the advertisers who are sponsoring them. These ads include a misleading website that we believe needed to honestly represent the advertiser so the ads are being removed," he said in a prepared statement.

http://www.oregonlive.com/politics/index.ssf/2012/10/clear_channel_takes_down_anti-.html

jct74

10-23-2012, 05:37 PM

some video of Montel in Arkansas, he gets emotional a couple times during his speech

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8hHHyu9dsY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOMRUH4j0SM

youngbuck

10-23-2012, 07:24 PM

I will be voting for 64 in Colorado. I'm thinking we'll get this one right. Same here... it's about time.

AFPVet

10-23-2012, 08:51 PM

People need to be educated on the difference between hemp and marijuana. Even people in the liberty movement get them confused.

Yes they do. Industrial hemp was selectively bred to have very low levels of THC and high levels of CBD. Conversely, only three percent of cannabis plants can be considered marijuana. Marijuana contains high THC and varied amounts of CBD—depending on strain.

Icymudpuppy

10-23-2012, 09:27 PM

Have you checked out this?

http://www.nooni502.com/wordpress/faq-5

Or this?

http://www.nooni502.com/wordpress/archives/559

I said it treats it like alcohol. Not beer/Wine, but rather like Hard distilled alcohol. Whiskey, Rum, etc. It is not legal in WA to make your own hard liquor. Still better to have it legally obtainable in state run stores than a blanket ban. Keeps it out of schools and off the roads. If I was the owner of a private road, I would make DUI of alcohol or marijuana a reason to be banished from using my roads. This is a step in the right direction as it WILL seriously cut down on marijuana related gang crime.

Origanalist

10-23-2012, 09:31 PM

AGRP

10-23-2012, 10:11 PM

I said it treats it like alcohol. Not beer/Wine, but rather like Hard distilled alcohol. Whiskey, Rum, etc. It is not legal in WA to make your own hard liquor. Still better to have it legally obtainable in state run stores than a blanket ban. Keeps it out of schools and off the roads. If I was the owner of a private road, I would make DUI of alcohol or marijuana a reason to be banished from using my roads. This is a step in the right direction as it WILL seriously cut down on marijuana related gang crime.

:rolleyes:

jct74

10-26-2012, 04:39 AM

Latest polls for medical marijuana in Arkansas have taken a turn for the worse.

PollsterSubject Polled
Support
Oppose
Lead
Date
Talk Business-Hendrix College (http://talkbusiness.net/2012/10/new-poll-opposition-to-medical-marijuana-grows/) (new)Issue 5
38
54
-16
10/18
University of Arkansas (http://www.uark.edu/depts/plscinfo/partners/arkpoll/12/2012_Arkansas_Poll_Summary_Report.pdf) (new)Issue 5
44
52
-8
10/9 - 10/14
Talk Business-Hendrix College (http://talkbusiness.net/2012/07/arkansans-split-views-on-health-care-medicaid-medical-marijuana/)Issue 5
47
46
+1
7/19

TV ads are just starting to hit the airwaves though, and here is a 2nd TV ad that was just recently released.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0ExcepBXxI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0ExcepBXxI

jct74

10-26-2012, 05:25 AM

some new polls in Colorado and Washington, still holding onto a lead in both states but a little all over the place in Washington.

Colorado

PollsterSubject Polled
Support
Oppose
Lead
Date
Public Policy Polling (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/10/obama-up-4-in-colorado.html) (new)Amendment 64
53
43
+10
10/23 - 10/25
Denver Post / SurveyUSA (http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=c33f6e0a-00b5-4764-8ee2-525a01ca58b0)Amendment 64
48
43
+5
10/9 - 10/10
Quinnipiac / CBS / NYT (http://www.scribd.com/fullscreen/109655473?access_key=key-2mzy8kdhx8dbdt8y5ik6)legalizing marijuana
45
46
-1
10/4 - 10/9
University of Denver / Seltzer (http://blog.norml.org/2012/10/09/one-month-before-the-election-colorado-marijuana-legalization-still-up-ten-points/)Amendment 64
50
40
+10
10/4 - 10/5
Denver Post / SurveyUSA (http://www.denverpost.com/news/marijuana/ci_21548398/colorado-marijuana-legalization-initiative-leads-new-pollt)Amendment 64
51
40
+11
9/09 - 9/12
Public Policy Polling (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/09/marijuana-amendment-leads-in-colorado.html)Amendment 64
47
38
+9
8/31 - 9/02
Public Policy Polling (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/08/co-voters-favor-assault-weapons-ban-legal-pot-civil-unions.html)Amendment 64
47
38
+9
8/02 - 8/05
Public Policy Polling (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/06/hickenlooper-remains-one-of-most-popular-governors.html)Amendment 64
46
42
+4
6/14 - 6/17
Rasmussen Reports (http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_state_surveys/colorado/61_in_colorado_favor_legalizing_regulating_marijua na)regulating marijuana like alcohol
61
27
+34
6/06
Public Policy Polling (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2011/12/colorado-favors-gay-marriage-marijuana-use-loves-tebow.html)legalizing marijuana
49
40
+9
Dec. 2011

Washington

PollsterSubject Polled
Support
Oppose
Lead
Date
Strategies 360 (http://www.strategies360.com/client/12-165_OctWACrosstabs.pdf) (new)Initiative 502
54
38
+16
10/17 - 10/20
Elway Research (http://www.scribd.com/doc/111037735/Elway-Poll-102412) (new)Initiative 502
48
44
+4
10/18 - 10/21
King 5 / SurveyUSA (http://www.king5.com/news/up-front/polls/KING-5-poll-Initiatives-still-ahead-AG-race-now-a-toss-up-174837961.html)Initiative 502
55
36
+19
10/12 - 10/14
KCTS 9 Washington (http://kcts9.org/sites/default/files/kcts9wapoll2012_oct18_results.pdf)Initiative 502
47
40
+7
10/1 - 10/16
King 5 / SurveyUSA (http://www.nwcn.com/home/?fId=172885681&fPath=/news/local&fDomain=10212)Initiative 502
57
33
+24
9/28 - 9/30
Elway Research (http://blog.seattlepi.com/seattlepolitics/2012/09/17/gay-marriage-pot-legalization-gain-elway-poll/)Initiative 502
50
38
+12
9/08 - 9/12
King 5 / SurveyUSA (http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=07b89034-43b1-4d60-8d0f-2982bd314434)Initiative 502
57
34
+23
9/07 - 9/09
King 5 / SurveyUSA (http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=2786ebbd-3348-4795-b0a8-0ee124a9707d)Initiative 502
55
32
+23
7/16 - 7/17
Public Policy Polling (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/06/mckenna-takes-lead-in-wa-gubernatorial-race.html)Initiative 502
50
37
+13
6/14 - 6/17
Public Policy Polling (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/02/washington-governors-race-a-dead-heat.html)Initiative 502
47
39
+8
2/16 - 2/19
Elway Research (http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2017162013_marijuana05m.html)Initiative 502
48
45
+3
Jan. 2012

jct74

10-26-2012, 06:12 AM

if anyone is confused by the situation in Montana, here is a recent article that sums it up:
http://stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle/2012/oct/23/when_losing_means_winning_montan

also, the website for the main group leading the opposition to I-124 has lots more information:
http://www.patientsforreform.org/

here's a couple of radio ads airing in Montana

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-AlEQku37o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdmlNrsKkRQ

and what looks like a new TV ad

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4eTkhS7wZQ

Shane Harris

10-26-2012, 10:38 PM

some new polls in Colorado and Washington, still holding steady in both states but a little all over the place in Washington.

Colorado

PollsterSubject Polled
Support
Oppose
Lead
Date
Public Policy Polling (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/10/obama-up-4-in-colorado.html) (new)Amendment 64
53
43
+10
10/23 - 10/25
Denver Post / SurveyUSA (http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=c33f6e0a-00b5-4764-8ee2-525a01ca58b0)Amendment 64
48
43
+5
10/9 - 10/10
Quinnipiac / CBS / NYT (http://www.scribd.com/fullscreen/109655473?access_key=key-2mzy8kdhx8dbdt8y5ik6)legalizing marijuana
45
46
-1
10/4 - 10/9
University of Denver / Seltzer (http://blog.norml.org/2012/10/09/one-month-before-the-election-colorado-marijuana-legalization-still-up-ten-points/)Amendment 64
50
40
+10
10/4 - 10/5
Denver Post / SurveyUSA (http://www.denverpost.com/news/marijuana/ci_21548398/colorado-marijuana-legalization-initiative-leads-new-pollt)Amendment 64
51
40
+11
9/09 - 9/12
Public Policy Polling (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/09/marijuana-amendment-leads-in-colorado.html)Amendment 64
47
38
+9
8/31 - 9/02
Public Policy Polling (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/08/co-voters-favor-assault-weapons-ban-legal-pot-civil-unions.html)Amendment 64
47
38
+9
8/02 - 8/05
Public Policy Polling (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/06/hickenlooper-remains-one-of-most-popular-governors.html)Amendment 64
46
42
+4
6/14 - 6/17
Rasmussen Reports (http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_state_surveys/colorado/61_in_colorado_favor_legalizing_regulating_marijua na)regulating marijuana like alcohol
61
27
+34
6/06
Public Policy Polling (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2011/12/colorado-favors-gay-marriage-marijuana-use-loves-tebow.html)legalizing marijuana
49
40
+9
Dec. 2011

Washington

PollsterSubject Polled
Support
Oppose
Lead
Date
Strategies 360 (http://www.strategies360.com/client/12-165_OctWACrosstabs.pdf) (new)Initiative 502
54
38
+16
10/17 - 10/20
Elway Research (http://www.scribd.com/doc/111037735/Elway-Poll-102412) (new)Initiative 502
48
44
+4
10/18 - 10/21
King 5 / SurveyUSA (http://www.king5.com/news/up-front/polls/KING-5-poll-Initiatives-still-ahead-AG-race-now-a-toss-up-174837961.html)Initiative 502
55
36
+19
10/12 - 10/14
KCTS 9 Washington (http://kcts9.org/sites/default/files/kcts9wapoll2012_oct18_results.pdf)Initiative 502
47
40
+7
10/1 - 10/16
King 5 / SurveyUSA (http://www.nwcn.com/home/?fId=172885681&fPath=/news/local&fDomain=10212)Initiative 502
57
33
+24
9/28 - 9/30
Elway Research (http://blog.seattlepi.com/seattlepolitics/2012/09/17/gay-marriage-pot-legalization-gain-elway-poll/)Initiative 502
50
38
+12
9/08 - 9/12
King 5 / SurveyUSA (http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=07b89034-43b1-4d60-8d0f-2982bd314434)Initiative 502
57
34
+23
9/07 - 9/09
King 5 / SurveyUSA (http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=2786ebbd-3348-4795-b0a8-0ee124a9707d)Initiative 502
55
32
+23
7/16 - 7/17
Public Policy Polling (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/06/mckenna-takes-lead-in-wa-gubernatorial-race.html)Initiative 502
50
37
+13
6/14 - 6/17
Public Policy Polling (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/02/washington-governors-race-a-dead-heat.html)Initiative 502
47
39
+8
2/16 - 2/19
Elway Research (http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2017162013_marijuana05m.html)Initiative 502
48
45
+3
Jan. 2012

new polls look great! less than 2 weeks out and being up by 10 points in CO and 16 in WA! On a side note, I really cannot take seriously any supposed liberty republican not in favor of legalizing marijuana. It has to be the most cut and dry easy litmus test there is.

Shane Harris

10-26-2012, 10:40 PM

out of curiosity does anyone know what the polling looked like at this time last go around for marijuana initiatives??

jct74

10-27-2012, 01:37 PM

out of curiosity does anyone know what the polling looked like at this time last go around for marijuana initiatives??

Support usually decreases as election day approaches and the anti-marijuana scare tactics ramp up, this has been a clear trend over the years for marijuana reform initiatives. But from what I have read recently this is usually true for any type of ballot initiative whether it has to do with marijuana or not, and people that are undecided about a ballot initiative usually end up voting no.

The best example to compare these legalization initiatives to (and the only one that I could find polling data for) is Proposition 19 to legalize marijuana in California in 2010. It was polling well until the beginning of October, then support suddenly collapsed.
http://ballotpedia.org/wiki/index.php/California_Proposition_19,_the_Marijuana_Legalizat ion_Initiative_(2010)#Polls
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Proposition_19#Polling_history

Shane Harris

10-27-2012, 02:45 PM

Support usually decreases as election day approaches and the anti-marijuana scare tactics ramp up, this has been a clear trend over the years for marijuana reform initiatives. But from what I have read recently this is usually true for any type of ballot initiative whether it has to do with marijuana or not, and people that are undecided about a ballot initiative usually end up voting no.

The best example to compare these legalization initiatives to (and the only one that I could find polling data for) is Proposition 19 to legalize marijuana in California in 2010. It was polling well until the beginning of October, then support suddenly collapsed.
http://ballotpedia.org/wiki/index.php/California_Proposition_19,_the_Marijuana_Legalizat ion_Initiative_(2010)#Polls
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Proposition_19#Polling_history

Well thats good news since it is now the end of October and support is remaining steady. And what's even better is that support is steadily OVER 50%.

jct74

10-29-2012, 03:13 PM

new TV ads in Colorado and Washington

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3uKp1tT8j4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDlI3bNCQ5w

jct74

11-02-2012, 06:58 AM

Washington holding strong in 2 recent polls! Same for Massachusetts which there really isn't any doubt over. But still not looking too good in Oregon.

Washington

PollsterSubject Polled
Support
Oppose
Lead
Date
King 5 / SurveyUSA (http://www.king5.com/news/politics/KING-5-Poll-Governors-race-a-dead-heat-176770651.html) (new)Initiative 502
56
37
+19
10/28 - 10/31
KCTS 9 Washington (http://kcts9.org/sites/default/files/kcts9wapoll_oct31.pdf) (new)Initiative 502
55
38
+17
10/18 - 10/31
Elway Research (http://www.scribd.com/doc/111037735/Elway-Poll-102412)Initiative 502
48
44
+4
10/18 - 10/21
Strategies 360 (http://www.strategies360.com/client/12-165_OctWACrosstabs.pdf)Initiative 502
54
38
+16
10/17 - 10/20
King 5 / SurveyUSA (http://www.king5.com/news/up-front/polls/KING-5-poll-Initiatives-still-ahead-AG-race-now-a-toss-up-174837961.html)Initiative 502
55
36
+19
10/12 - 10/14
KCTS 9 Washington (http://kcts9.org/sites/default/files/kcts9wapoll2012_oct18_results.pdf)Initiative 502
47
40
+7
10/1 - 10/16
King 5 / SurveyUSA (http://www.nwcn.com/home/?fId=172885681&fPath=/news/local&fDomain=10212)Initiative 502
57
33
+24
9/28 - 9/30
Elway Research (http://blog.seattlepi.com/seattlepolitics/2012/09/17/gay-marriage-pot-legalization-gain-elway-poll/)Initiative 502
50
38
+12
9/08 - 9/12
King 5 / SurveyUSA (http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=07b89034-43b1-4d60-8d0f-2982bd314434)Initiative 502
57
34
+23
9/07 - 9/09
King 5 / SurveyUSA (http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=2786ebbd-3348-4795-b0a8-0ee124a9707d)Initiative 502
55
32
+23
7/16 - 7/17
Public Policy Polling (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/06/mckenna-takes-lead-in-wa-gubernatorial-race.html)Initiative 502
50
37
+13
6/14 - 6/17
Public Policy Polling (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/02/washington-governors-race-a-dead-heat.html)Initiative 502
47
39
+8
2/16 - 2/19
Elway Research (http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2017162013_marijuana05m.html)Initiative 502
48
45
+3
Jan. 2012

Oregon

PollsterSubject Polled
Support
Oppose
Lead
Date
The Oregonian / Elway Research (http://www.oregonlive.com/politics/index.ssf/2012/10/obama_leads_in_oregon_thanks_t.html) (new)Measure 80
42
49
-7
10/25 - 10/28
KATU / SurveyUSA (http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=242a16b4-1a4c-47eb-a09e-52040667cc42)Measure 80
36
43
-7
10/16 - 10/18
KATU / SurveyUSA (http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=f35f6734-8377-4585-bb0e-a1a5fc418199)Measure 80
37
41
-4
9/10 - 9/13
Public Policy Polling (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/07/oregon-divided-on-gay-marriage.html)legalizing marijuana
43
46
-3
6/21 - 6/24

Massachusetts

PollsterSubject Polled
Support
Oppose
Lead
Date
Suffolk University / 7NEWS (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/docs/2012/Suffolk_MA_1030.pdf) (new)Question 3
55
36
+19
10/25 - 10/28
Boston Globe / UNH Survey Center (http://cache.boston.com/multimedia/2012/10/29poll2/poll_no_summary.pdf) (new)Question 3
63
28
+35
10/24 - 10/28
Public Policy Polling (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/10/warren-lead-up-to-6-points-obamas-down-to-14.html)Question 3
57
31
+26
10/9 - 10/11
Boston Globe / UNH Survey Center (http://www.boston.com/multimedia/2012/09/30poll/poll_web_sunday.pdf)Question 3
69
22
+47
9/21 - 9/27
Suffolk University / 7NEWS (http://blog.norml.org/2012/09/18/massachusetts-medical-marijuana-initiative-question-3-maintains-strong-lead/)Question 3
59
35
+24
9/13 - 9/16
Public Policy Polling (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/08/obama-up-in-massachusetts.html)Question 3
58
27
+31
8/16 - 8/19
Public Policy Polling (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/06/ma-okay-with-gay-marriage-sox-fans-with-bobby-v.html)legalizing medical marijuana
57
33
+24
6/22 - 6/24
Public Policy Polling (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/03/massachusetts-voters-happy-with-gay-marriage.html)generic proposal to legalize MMJ
53
35
+18
3/16 - 3/18

KMX

11-02-2012, 09:32 AM

I will be voting for 64 in Colorado. I'm thinking we'll get this one right.

Bring 10 friends with you! Make me proud!

RabbitMan

11-02-2012, 10:31 AM

Welp. It looks like Washington might be the only state to legalize. This will be interesting! I think people noticing the sheer amount of dispensaries opening up everywhere(its like every two blocks here) in Seattle has swayed at least a few that the status is NOT quo.

COpatriot

11-02-2012, 11:19 AM

Bring 10 friends with you! Make me proud!

Damn. Already voted last week. Went on my own.

trey4sports

11-05-2012, 08:32 PM

legalize it bump.

jct74

11-05-2012, 09:54 PM

Some new polls in Colorado and Washington... still looking pretty good. I'm pumped for tomorrow.

Colorado

PollsterSubject Polled
Support
Oppose
Lead
Date
Public Policy Polling (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/11/obama-leads-by-6-points-in-colorado-4-in-nevada.html) (new)Amendment 64
52
44
+8
11/03 - 11/04
Denver Post / SurveyUSA (http://www.denverpost.com/news/marijuana/ci_21923019/election-day-votes-will-decide-colorado-marijuana-legalization) (new)Amendment 64
50
44
+6
10/28 - 10/31
Public Policy Polling (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/10/obama-up-4-in-colorado.html)Amendment 64
53
43
+10
10/23 - 10/25
Denver Post / SurveyUSA (http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=c33f6e0a-00b5-4764-8ee2-525a01ca58b0)Amendment 64
48
43
+5
10/9 - 10/10
Quinnipiac / CBS / NYT (http://www.scribd.com/fullscreen/109655473?access_key=key-2mzy8kdhx8dbdt8y5ik6)legalizing marijuana
45
46
-1
10/4 - 10/9
University of Denver / Seltzer (http://blog.norml.org/2012/10/09/one-month-before-the-election-colorado-marijuana-legalization-still-up-ten-points/)Amendment 64
50
40
+10
10/4 - 10/5
Denver Post / SurveyUSA (http://www.denverpost.com/news/marijuana/ci_21548398/colorado-marijuana-legalization-initiative-leads-new-pollt)Amendment 64
51
40
+11
9/09 - 9/12
Public Policy Polling (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/09/marijuana-amendment-leads-in-colorado.html)Amendment 64
47
38
+9
8/31 - 9/02
Public Policy Polling (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/08/co-voters-favor-assault-weapons-ban-legal-pot-civil-unions.html)Amendment 64
47
38
+9
8/02 - 8/05
Public Policy Polling (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/06/hickenlooper-remains-one-of-most-popular-governors.html)Amendment 64
46
42
+4
6/14 - 6/17
Rasmussen Reports (http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_state_surveys/colorado/61_in_colorado_favor_legalizing_regulating_marijua na)regulating marijuana like alcohol
61
27
+34
6/06
Public Policy Polling (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2011/12/colorado-favors-gay-marriage-marijuana-use-loves-tebow.html)legalizing marijuana
49
40
+9
Dec. 2011

Washington

PollsterSubject Polled
Support
Oppose
Lead
Date
Public Policy Polling (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/11/wa-gov-a-toss-up-obama-and-gay-marriage-well-ahead.html) (new)Initiative 502
53
44
+9
11/01 - 11/03
King 5 / SurveyUSA (http://www.king5.com/news/politics/KING-5-Poll-Governors-race-a-dead-heat-176770651.html)Initiative 502
56
37
+19
10/28 - 10/31
KCTS 9 Washington (http://kcts9.org/sites/default/files/kcts9wapoll_oct31.pdf)Initiative 502
55
38
+17
10/18 - 10/31
Elway Research (http://www.scribd.com/doc/111037735/Elway-Poll-102412)Initiative 502
48
44
+4
10/18 - 10/21
Strategies 360 (http://www.strategies360.com/client/12-165_OctWACrosstabs.pdf)Initiative 502
54
38
+16
10/17 - 10/20
King 5 / SurveyUSA (http://www.king5.com/news/up-front/polls/KING-5-poll-Initiatives-still-ahead-AG-race-now-a-toss-up-174837961.html)Initiative 502
55
36
+19
10/12 - 10/14
KCTS 9 Washington (http://kcts9.org/sites/default/files/kcts9wapoll2012_oct18_results.pdf)Initiative 502
47
40
+7
10/1 - 10/16
King 5 / SurveyUSA (http://www.nwcn.com/home/?fId=172885681&fPath=/news/local&fDomain=10212)Initiative 502
57
33
+24
9/28 - 9/30
Elway Research (http://blog.seattlepi.com/seattlepolitics/2012/09/17/gay-marriage-pot-legalization-gain-elway-poll/)Initiative 502
50
38
+12
9/08 - 9/12
King 5 / SurveyUSA (http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=07b89034-43b1-4d60-8d0f-2982bd314434)Initiative 502
57
34
+23
9/07 - 9/09
King 5 / SurveyUSA (http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=2786ebbd-3348-4795-b0a8-0ee124a9707d)Initiative 502
55
32
+23
7/16 - 7/17
Public Policy Polling (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/06/mckenna-takes-lead-in-wa-gubernatorial-race.html)Initiative 502
50
37
+13
6/14 - 6/17
Public Policy Polling (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/02/washington-governors-race-a-dead-heat.html)Initiative 502
47
39
+8
2/16 - 2/19
Elway Research (http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2017162013_marijuana05m.html)Initiative 502
48
45
+3
Jan. 2012

Shane Harris

11-05-2012, 10:17 PM

UpperDecker

11-05-2012, 10:20 PM

Go Colorado!

trey4sports

11-06-2012, 12:11 PM

im pumped too. Hopefully tonight we make history!

jct74

11-06-2012, 06:18 PM

Post in and stay tuned to this thread for the official results.

BenIsForRon

11-06-2012, 08:06 PM

Post in and stay tuned to this thread for the official results. I'll update OP with vote totals.

Thanks man. I'm going to be playing video games all night trying not to think about the shitty choice America is making today, so this thread will help me minimize my exposure to the news.

jct74

11-06-2012, 08:11 PM

Thanks man. I'm going to be playing video games all night trying not to think about the shitty choice America is making today, so this thread will help me minimize my exposure to the news.

you can also track the results at these 2 links:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/06/marijuana-legalization-results_n_2074168.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000009
http://blog.norml.org/2012/11/06/norml-election-night-2012-live/

big 62-37 lead for MMJ in Massachusetts with 7% reporting, but this one was never in doubt

jct74

11-06-2012, 09:23 PM

Medical marijuana will now be legal in Massachusetts. 63-37 margin with 52% reporting, Politico has called the race.
http://www.politico.com/2012-election/map/#/Measures/2012/MA

mrsat_98

11-06-2012, 09:29 PM

ISSUE #2 CITY COUNTY FINANCING
17% OF PRECINCTS REPORTING
AGAINST 225,543 55%
FOR 184,849 45%

jct74

11-06-2012, 09:29 PM

not looking too good for medical marijuana in Arkansas, not really a surprise according to recent polling

18% reporting

YES
205,579
46.7%
NO
234,390
53.3%

http://www.politico.com/2012-election/map/#/Measures/2012/AR

jct74

11-06-2012, 09:35 PM

looking good in Colorado!

25.4% reporting

YES
780,414
52.5%
NO
706,195
47.5%

http://www.politico.com/2012-election/map/#/Measures/2012/CO

Shane Harris

11-06-2012, 10:01 PM

wooo lets go CO

Iptay

11-06-2012, 10:40 PM

Time to move to Colorado!

Shane Harris

11-06-2012, 10:42 PM

how can they project it already?

Iptay

11-06-2012, 10:46 PM

how can they project it already?
I'm wondering the same thing. Because they only have about 39% reported in.

jct74

11-06-2012, 10:56 PM

Politico has called it for legal marijuana in Washington!

49.1% reporting

YES
1,013,656
55.5%
NO
814,029
44.5%

http://www.politico.com/2012-election/map/#/Measures/2012/WA

jct74

11-06-2012, 10:58 PM

Colorado too. Fuck yeah!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/06/amendment-64-passes-in-co_n_2079899.html

matt0611

11-06-2012, 11:00 PM

We legalized medicinal marijuana in MA tonight.

Owning a small amount for personal recreational use is already decriminalized (but still technically illegal)

I expect we will have a ballot measure like CO in 2014.

Iptay

11-06-2012, 11:00 PM

Politico has called it for legal marijuana in Washington!

49.1% reporting

YES
1,013,656
55.5%
NO
814,029
44.5%

http://www.politico.com/2012-election/map/#/Measures/2012/WA
Great news! I wonder how Obama will react to this with regards to the DEA and the Controlled Substance Act.

liberty2897

11-06-2012, 11:01 PM

Politico has called it for legal marijuana in Washington!

49.1% reporting

YES
1,013,656
55.5%
NO
814,029
44.5%

http://www.politico.com/2012-election/map/#/Measures/2012/WA

Great News! Thanks for reporting! I've been looking for results.

John F Kennedy III

11-06-2012, 11:03 PM

WA, CO and MA! Nice!

COpatriot

11-06-2012, 11:04 PM

I told you we would get it right in Colorado! So happy.

matt0611

11-06-2012, 11:06 PM

I really hope this becomes a domino effect once everyone can see how much better it is with it legalized.

Tudo

11-06-2012, 11:06 PM

Wow, excellent excellent. A step in the right direction. Will tourists to Washington State, Colorado be allowed to purchase small amounts like in amsterdam? Or how amsterdam used to be? I promise my Wife and I will plan a trip and do shopping for other things too. It could be a boon for tourism. How will the obama admin react to this? Will it be legal to use your colorado card in california or hawaii?

jct74

11-06-2012, 11:21 PM

doesn't look like there will be legal marijuana in Oregon, no surprise.

47.2% reporting

YES
473,661
45.4%
NO
570,736
54.6%

2 out of 3 ain't bad though, maybe next time. :)

jct74

11-07-2012, 01:55 AM

Politico has called it, no medical marijuana in Arkansas.

90.8% reporting

YES
468,645
48.4%
NO
500,455
51.6%

http://www.politico.com/2012-election/map/#/Measures/2012/AR

It was closer than the polls were indicating though.

jct74

11-07-2012, 03:50 AM

not looking good in Montana, yes vote means the medical marijuana program will be severely gutted

57.3% reporting

YES
190,796
56.8%
NO
145,190
43.2%

http://www.politico.com/2012-election/map/#/Measures/2012/MT

I'll dig into the local city-wide ballot initiatives tomorrow, see how things turned out in Michigan and other states.

jct74

11-07-2012, 03:58 AM

CNN coverage

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-m8BTTZzmrI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-m8BTTZzmrI

jct74

11-07-2012, 04:32 AM

Fox News

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHka1eOtL68

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftAeDM_wrFM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNld69uMV-A

jct74

11-07-2012, 04:35 AM

Governor of Colorado reacts

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DXEjViLM5Q
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DXEjViLM5Q

jkob

11-07-2012, 04:45 AM

Awesome.

I anticipate the feds will fight this and it'll be a great issue to win people over to the idea of state's rights

Keith and stuff

11-07-2012, 05:03 AM

Governor of Colorado reacts

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DXEjViLM5Q
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DXEjViLM5Q

It sounds like the governor is willing to try everything possible to stop the implementation of this. Not good, not good at all.

jct74

11-07-2012, 05:06 AM

weed activists celebrate in Colorado

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcvpktJ62KQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLDjs7ytBTk

presence

11-07-2012, 07:07 AM

HUGE

AGRP

11-07-2012, 09:28 AM

You have to buy it at a state store? wow. That is not legalization.

trey4sports

11-07-2012, 10:30 AM

I wonder if Obama will change his current policy now that reelection is not on the table? I remember reading an article that said drug policy reform was on his to-do list if he won reelection.

jct74

11-09-2012, 03:04 AM

here's the results of the local initiatives, I got most of this information from an article on Stop The Drug War (http://stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle/2012/nov/07/more_drugrelated_election_result).

Local Initiatives

Detroit, MI - Proposal M seeks to remove criminal penalties for possession on private property of up to one ounce of marijuana by adults by adults age 21 and older.

Website: http://saferdetroit.net/index.php

RESULT: PASSED with 65% of vote!

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Flint, MI - Voters will decide whether to remove criminal penalties for possession on private property of up to one ounce of marijuana (or marijuana paraphernalia) by adults age 19 and older.

RESULT: PASSED with 57% (http://www.mlive.com/news/flint/index.ssf/2012/11/flint_police_will_still_make_m.html) of vote!

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Grand Rapids, MI - Proposal 2 seeks to allow local law enforcement the discretion to ticket first-time marijuana offenders with a civil citation, punishable by a $25 fine and no criminal record.

Website: http://decriminalizegr.org/

RESULT: PASSED with 60% of vote!

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Ypsilanti, MI - Voters will decide whether to make the local enforcement of marijuana possession offenses the city’s lowest law enforcement priority.

RESULT: PASSED with 74% (http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2012/11/07/voters-in-michigan-cities-back-marijuana-issues/) of vote!

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Kalamazoo, MI - Voters will decide whether to allow the opening of 3 medical marijuana dispensaries (http://www.mlive.com/news/kalamazoo/index.ssf/2012/07/kalamazoo_will_vote_in_novembe.html) in the city.

RESULT: PASSED with 64% (http://www.mlive.com/news/kalamazoo/index.ssf/2012/11/kalamazoo_medical_marijuana_di.html) of vote!

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California - A number of towns, mostly in the San Diego area, will vote on local initiatives to allow medical marijuana dispensaries. Those include Del Mar, Imperial Beach, Lemon Grove, and Solana Beach, as well as Palo Alto. The town of Dunsmuir will vote on whether to loosen cultivation regulations.

RESULTS: Measures in Del Mar, Imperial Beach, Lemon Grove, and Solana Beach to allow dispensaries all FAILED by a relatively wide margin. Measure in Dunsmuir to loosen regulations FAILED with 47% (http://www.eastbayexpress.com/LegalizationNation/archives/2012/11/07/california-vote-a-mixed-bag-for-marijuana-law-reformers).

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Colorado - Berthoud will be voting on whether to ban dispensaries, and Fort Collins will be voting on whether to overturn the ban on dispensaries voted in last November.

RESULTS: Berthoud's measure FAILED with only 43% (http://www.reporterherald.com/news/larimer-county/ci_21943723/unofficial-numbers-show-berthoud-question-300-fails) supporting a ban on dispensaries. The measure in Fort Collins to overturn a ban on dispensaries PASSED with 55%.

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Massachusetts - In a continuation of work done in the past six election cycles, voters in a number of legislative districts will be asked a non-binding public policy question. In the First Essex and Middlesex Senate District, the Eighth Essex House District, and the Twenty-Second Essex House District voters will be asked whether they support repeal of the "federal prohibition of marijuana, as the 21st Amendment repealed national prohibition of alcohol, so that states may regulate it as they choose?" Voters in the Second Middlesex Senate District, the Middlesex and Suffolk Senate District, and the Second Berkshire House District will answer a similar question.

RESULTS: All measures PASSED by a wide margin. See here (http://stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle/2012/nov/07/more_drugrelated_election_result) for details.

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Washington - Voters in six cities -- Bellingham, Bremerton, Everett, Kent, Olympia, and Spokane -- will vote on initiatives to make marijuana the lowest law enforcement priority and prohibit local officials from cooperating with federal marijuana law enforcement activities.

RESULTS: couldn't find any information, but marijuana is now legal in WA anyways

I also updated the OP with the latest results from the statewide initiatives if anyone is interested.

WhistlinDave

11-09-2012, 03:33 AM

Even if these initiatives in Colorado and Washington aren't perfect, the important thing is, THE VOTERS PASSED THEM. The process of ending marijuana prohibition on the Federal level will probably take several years--hopefully not too too many--but this is the first step. Now that the people have spoken, and we have two states who "JUST SAY NO" to Federal law, the Federal government will be forced to deal with the issue. I predict more states will follow too.

This is how alcohol prohibition ended. States began voting to re-legalize, and eventually the Feds had no choice but to lift the Federal ban as well. And coincidentally, Colorado was one of the first states to vote to end that prohibition, back in 1932.

I'm so stoked on this!!! The house of cards cannot continue to stand. The whole thing is coming down now. Might take a little time, but there is no stopping it now.

WOOOOO HOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!! Suck it, Kerlikowski!!!!!!!!!