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Origanalist
08-19-2012, 10:04 AM
The people dependent on the military industial complex are getting worried;


By David Lawder

JUPITER, Florida | Sun Aug 19, 2012 8:04am EDT

JUPITER, Florida (Reuters) - The uncertainty over automatic cuts in U.S. defense spending to be triggered in January because of congressional inaction has spread to the engineers and project managers in South Florida's aerospace industry.

Employees at Pratt & Whitney Rocketdyne here say that both personal and corporate planning is on hold, with any new ideas of spending being reined in.

Fernando Diaz, 37, deputy program manager for Pratt's RL-10 rocket engine, said he and his wife of two years wanted to start a family. But now they aren't sure if the time is right.

James Larkin, 51, a jet engineer at Pratt, has been through several boom-and-bust cycles, but describes automatic cuts as "a ticking time bomb" for him.

With two teenagers at home, Larkin is worrying about how he will pay for college tuition if the cuts come. He's recruiting fellow employees to raise awareness and write to Congress.

Corry Johnson, a 31-year-old hypersonic propulsion engineer, says he and his wife are holding off on buying a first home for their young family until there is more clarity on his job security.

Pratt & Whitney, a unit of United Technologies Corp, is considering moving some engine-production work for the F-35 Joint Strike Fighters -- and over 200 jobs -- to the Florida plant, but may re-evaluate this move if the F-35 production rate falls due to the pending defense cuts, Pratt President David Hess said.

While the impact of the cuts is hotly debated in Washington, there's no doubt about the alarm felt by defense contractors, who have embarked on a campaign to publicize them. Their situation demonstrates that while Congress has learned to live with stalemates and stopgaps and last-minute cliff-hangers, the rest of America has not.

The term "do nothing Congress" is a misnomer, suggests Johnson. Congress is doing something even when it's not, he says. "When you're required to make a decision and you don't make one, that is a decision," he says.

It was a year ago this month that lawmakers set in motion the $55 billion in defense cuts for the first year, to begin in early January, along with an equal amount of cuts in non-defense discretionary programs and agency budgets.

To deal that ended a bitter fight on Capitol Hill over raising the debt limit will cut federal spending by $1.2 trillion over 10 years.

AVERTING DEFAULT

The deal averted a historic default on U.S. Treasury debt and bought Congress and the Obama administration 17 months to find the deficit-reductions. The indiscriminate pain of the across-the-board cuts was meant to spur a congressional "supercommittee" to a deal. But it failed to do so.

The supercommittee's work ended in acrimony last November, and election-year politics have prompted both Democrats and Republicans to hold fast to their positions.

Democrats insisted on new tax revenues as part of the solution, while Republicans, spurred on by the fiscally conservative Tea Party movement, refused to consider tax hikes and insisted on cuts to Medicare and other entitlement programs favored by Democrats.

The workforce at the sprawling Pratt complex in the swamps northwest of Palm Beach has seen its share of ups and downs at the hands of Washington's budget masters.

It developed the engines that power many of today's jet fighters and decades of space launches -- Diaz' RL-10 blasted the current Mars Rover mission's second stage toward the planet. But the Space Shuttle program's termination and a consolidation of military engine programs has taken its toll.

Employment, including a helicopter operation, is hovering around 1,600, down from around 8,000 in the plant's late 1990s heyday. But some employees say those upheavals are more understandable than the current threat, a creature of Congress' own making and so indiscriminate that no one has actually sorted out precisely where the cuts will hit.

"There's definitely a tension. No one really speaks about sequestration on a day-to-day basis but it comes up around the water cooler," Johnson said. "There's an uncertainty there that people are uncomfortable with."

But few are expecting movement on the cuts before the November 6 presidential election. "The partisanship will just get amped up," added Diaz. "The rhetoric makes it difficult."

JUST FIX IT

The Pratt & Whitney engineers declined to assign fault to either party for their dilemma. Instead, they prescribed a practical problem-solving approach.

"No blaming. Let's just fix it," Larkin said. "Get the appropriate people to come together, set aside their differences and make a decision."

They've made that plea to their own elected official in Congress, Republican Representative Allen West, who is definitely one of those "appropriate people."

West, a former Army lieutenant colonel and Tea Party favorite, voted in favor of the budget deal that set the cuts in motion, saying he did not want to play "Russian roulette" with a potential U.S. default.

He vowed to workers at a Pratt & Whitney rally that he would cut short a five-week recess and return to Washington immediately if he could help work out a deal to avert the cuts.

But with the campaign rhetoric accelerating, West did not offer much room for compromise. New revenue measures, as the Democrats want, remain unacceptable to him.

"Why are we talking about raising taxes when there's so much uncertainty out there in the economy," West said, calling President Barack Obama's call for higher taxes on the wealthy a "gimmick" that won't produce much in revenues.

"There's a lot of other places in Washington, D.C., where we can find the requisite amount of cuts," West added. "I think we've got to get the federal government back in its right and proper roles and responsibilities."

West's Democratic opponent in his bid for a second term, Patrick Murphy, argues that West is responsible for the problem by vilifying Democrats as "communists" and backing Tea Party demands for deep spending cuts with no revenue gains.

A study commissioned by the Aerospace Industries Association estimates that the automatic defense cuts could ultimately lead to the loss of over 1 million jobs. Add non-defense cuts and the number grows to over 2 million.

Defense executives are still considering whether to issue layoff notices at the end of October, just days before the election, despite Obama administration guidance that layoffs are unnecessary.

The Pratt workers are well aware of the nuances in the spending debate.

Johnson, who works on air-breathing engines so advanced that there isn't yet a craft to put them in, worries more about a brain drain in the industry. He never questioned his own desire to be an aerospace engineer, but other bright, young talent may look elsewhere.

"Sequestration has the effect of demoralizing the up-and-coming engineers who are typically attracted to this industry," he said. "If the opportunities aren't there, we're losing this knowledge base, this national asset."

"We've been telling people, 'Hang in there, stay focused. We have a job to do here, right now, today,'" says Diaz. "Our engines have to fly safely every time."

(Editing by Fred Barbash and Philip Barbara)

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/08/19/us-usa-congress-defensecuts-idUSBRE87I03B20120819

phill4paul
08-19-2012, 10:09 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HX0fIi3H-es

Origanalist
08-19-2012, 10:14 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HX0fIi3H-es

That should be funny, but itsnot. They do think it's their money, and they don't give one whit about who has to pay, or if the country is going decades into debt.

FSP-Rebel
08-19-2012, 10:15 AM
It is kind of a shame that our technology enhancements will be affected first before any bases are closed or wars drawn to an end. However, I'd definitely like to see a Pentagon audit to find the wasteful spending which would be a first.

AuH20
08-19-2012, 10:18 AM
How is this any different from the grievances of public section union workers?? Too bad. There is no tax base to support your employer's activities. Sorry.

XNavyNuke
08-19-2012, 01:39 PM
Meanwhile, Obama re-election teams is promising to restore funding in return for four more years.

http://www.floridatoday.com/article/20120811/BUSINESS/308110022/Budget-brinksmanship-worries-business-leaders


Jim Kohlenberger, formerly chief of staff for the administration’s Office of Science Technology Policy, said the Obama administration wants to fund research, aerospace and military spending in Brevard.


United Launch Alliance’s Kevin Bargo, director of Washington D.C. operations, said the message of support from the President’s campaign representatives was important.

“It sounds like the administration is trying to make sure the Space Coast still has a lot of economic prosperity,” Bargo said.

XNN

angelatc
08-19-2012, 02:17 PM
This means that the people who cried that this was a bait and switch plan to get the debt ceiling raised were probably right. Unless, of course, you think that the Democrats will allow the GOP to demagogue this "slashing of defense spending!" in an election year. And think of the jobs that the Dems can create!

asurfaholic
08-19-2012, 02:23 PM
wah wah.. when your only (or biggest) customer is broke and in debt way beyond being able to possibly get back to green, then ya - your business is a ticking time bomb. These people are just as pathetic as all the folks on welfare by choice.

Origanalist
08-19-2012, 02:26 PM
This means that the people who cried that this was a bait and switch plan to get the debt ceiling raised were probably right. Unless, of course, you think that the Democrats will allow the GOP to demagogue this "slashing of defense spending!" in an election year. And think of the jobs that the Dems can create!

ugh.

AGRP
08-19-2012, 03:21 PM
http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/c9.0.403.403/p403x403/549091_3374914339546_692996552_n.jpg

libertariantexas
08-21-2012, 04:10 AM
http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/c9.0.403.403/p403x403/549091_3374914339546_692996552_n.jpg

How is using drones any different than using regular aircraft, other than the fact that drones are more cost effective?

jmdrake
08-21-2012, 04:44 AM
It is kind of a shame that our technology enhancements will be affected first before any bases are closed or wars drawn to an end. However, I'd definitely like to see a Pentagon audit to find the wasteful spending which would be a first.

It's a shame that our country has let the military industrial complex join technology enhancements and government waste at the hip.

jmdrake
08-21-2012, 04:46 AM
How is using drones any different than using regular aircraft, other than the fact that drones are more cost effective?

You answered your own question. Cheaper, less risky "collateral damage" = used more often.