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Okie RP fan
08-18-2012, 09:08 AM
Again, we are just the annoying little cousins on the side of the room. Anyway, it's on the front page of Fox News and deserves some views to show them our numbers and to give Gary Johnson some exposure.


h t tp://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/08/18/libertarian-eyes-spoiler-role/

Matt Collins
08-18-2012, 10:13 AM
Yeah, whoops.... The many Republicans who ostracized Ron Paul should've thought about the consequences to their actions.

Matt Collins
08-18-2012, 10:15 AM
And more to the point, if the LP and GJ are blamed for a Romney loss, then we'll likely have a much more libertarian GOP nominee in 2012 because the GOP will realize they can't win without the limited-government/liberty wing of the party. It happened to the Dems in 2000 - Nader cost Gore the election in Florida, and in 2004 they put up someone who was more like Nader and less like Gore.

Okie RP fan
08-18-2012, 12:08 PM
Here is an article with many hateful comments towards libertarians and Gary Johnson. I don't know enough about him to take strong stances, but, those who are aware of his record in NM need to hit the comment boards:

h t tp://nation.foxnews.com/gary-johnson/2012/08/18/could-libertarian-candidate-johnson-determine-who-wins-2012

Aratus
08-18-2012, 12:17 PM
this election could be tight, it might break into an electoral college tie...

Liberty74
08-18-2012, 01:41 PM
Yeah, whoops.... The many Republicans who ostracized Ron Paul should've thought about the consequences to their actions.

We all know the neocons have never heard of the term "blowback." If the neocons have, they don't know what it means.

I have said before and will say it again that Johnson could end up pulling a Nadar in the 2012 elections. There are several states like CO, NM, AZ, NV, etc. where Johnson could draw 5-10% of the vote in those toss up states as of today. If Johnson gets any traction nationwide, Romney is through. Johnson will pull voters from both side yet I am willing to bet more so against Romney than Obama - 70/30 or 60/40.

musicmax
08-18-2012, 02:37 PM
There are several states like CO, NM, AZ, NV, etc. where Johnson could draw 5-10% of the vote in those toss up states as of today. If Johnson gets any traction nationwide, Romney is through. Johnson will pull voters from both side yet I am willing to bet more so against Romney than Obama - 70/30 or 60/40.

This is why Obama isn't taking military action in Syria yet. He's going to say "We got OBL, we're pulling out of Iraq, we have a schedule to pull out of Afghanistan, look at my Nobel Prize" and try to keep Johnson from stealing any anti-war votes.

foofighter20x
08-18-2012, 04:58 PM
wtf is that writer smoking? The GOP and the Dems are the spoilers, dividing America and ruining the breezy election of Gary Johnson.

LibertyEagle
08-18-2012, 05:02 PM
And more to the point, if the LP and GJ are blamed for a Romney loss, then we'll likely have a much more libertarian GOP nominee in 2012 because the GOP will realize they can't win without the limited-government/liberty wing of the party. It happened to the Dems in 2000 - Nader cost Gore the election in Florida, and in 2004 they put up someone who was more like Nader and less like Gore.

More likely, they will put up someone that the corporate media claims is "much more libertarian", but in reality isn't at all.

Sola_Fide
08-18-2012, 05:10 PM
Eh...I don't know. Gary doesn't inspire confidence in me like some other past libertarian candidates did. Harry Browne, now there was a guy I could get excited about supporting. Gary...not so much.

Bastiat's The Law
08-18-2012, 05:14 PM
Eh...I don't know. Gary doesn't inspire confidence in me like some other past libertarian candidates did. Harry Browne, now there was a guy I could get excited about supporting. Gary...not so much.
Gary is a good guy, but does seem like a lightweight intellectually.

Bastiat's The Law
08-18-2012, 05:15 PM
Yeah, whoops.... The many Republicans who ostracized Ron Paul should've thought about the consequences to their actions.
They ostracized Johnson a helluva lot more than Paul this year. Gary got the Ron Paul 2008 treatment and then some.

Matt Collins
08-18-2012, 06:43 PM
Eh...I don't know. Gary doesn't inspire confidence in me like some other past libertarian candidates did. Harry Browne, now there was a guy I could get excited about supporting. Gary...not so much.As I traversed the country this past year for Ron, I met 3 millionaires who specifically told me that Harry Browne's investment strategies helped lead them to wealth. :eek:

Matt Collins
08-18-2012, 06:44 PM
More likely, they will put up someone that the corporate media claims is "much more libertarian", but in reality isn't at all.And that is our job to ensure that the facts get passed around to cut through the spin. Thankfully we have the Internet :cool:

Matt Collins
08-18-2012, 06:44 PM
I have said before and will say it again that Johnson could end up pulling a Nadar in the 2012 elections.


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