Ron Paul nearly obliterated from wiki's 'Tea-Party' entry - references to Ryan added!

[Valli6]

Someone's edited the hell out of wiki's "Tea Party Movement" entry, presumably to black out Ron Paul and whitewash Paul Ryan. There's not a single mention of December 16, 2007! Didn't it used to mention the first tea party? It lists the first tea parties as 2009, cites the Santelli rant, and spends 3 paragraghs crediting "Seattle blogger and conservative activist Keli Carender with organizing the first Tea Party in February 2009." WTF?

Claims the Gadsen Flag became a Tea Party symbol "beginning in 2009"! (Also shows some made-up flag from Scott Brown's victory party? Pffft!)

The only sort-of-references to Ron Paul's 12/16/08 Tea Party are theses 2:

under background:

Fox News commentator Juan Williams argues that the Tea Party movement emerged from the "ashes" of Ron Paul's 2008 presidential primary campaign.[21] Others have argued that the Koch brothers were essential in fostering the movement.

under 2010 election:

Rand Paul, who gave a speech at the first tea party event held in December of 2007 and who subsequently endorsed by other Tea Party groups, won the Super Tuesday GOP Senate primary in Kentucky.
Under agenda, there's a whole section on "Contract from America" WTF? I guess they still have hopes of suckering people with that one!

Brief Ron Paul mention under "Foreign Policy" calling "Paulites" "neo-isolationist" and contrasting them with "Palinites" who, "while seeking to avoid being drawn into unnecessary conflicts, favor a more aggressive response to maintaining America's primacy in international relations."

Under "First National Protests" there is no mention of our tea party or Ron Paul, but there's still a picture of Ron in that section!

These references to Ryan were added:

In August, presumed Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney selected Rep. Paul Ryan of Wisconsin as his vice-presidential running mate.[152] The move was praised by the Tea Party Express,[153] the Tea Party Patriots,[154] Sarah Palin,[155] as well as many other Tea Party groups[156][157][158] and Libertarians.[159]:mad:

The tea party's involvement in the 2012 GOP presidential primaries was minimal, owing to divisions over whom to endorse as well as lack of enthusiasm for all the candidates.[163] Which is not to say the 2012 GOP ticket hasn't had an influence on the Tea Party: following the selection of Paul Ryan as Mitt Romney's vice-presidential running mate, the New York Times declared that the once fringe of the conservative coalition, Tea Party lawmakers are now "indisputably at the core of the modern Republican Party." [166]
Anyone able to correct this? (when time allows, of course)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tea_Party_movement

(update) OMG! THEY"VE ADDED A PHOTO OF NEWT GINGRICH! I don't think that was there before.

[sailingaway]

Snort.
Our people should edit in Ryan's voting record, for TARP, No Child Left Behind, Medicare D with its big PHARMA boondoggle, GM Bailouts.... etc.

[phill4paul]

There should be an archive of the unedited wiki. With that someone could start a campaign on that site to have it reverted. There was another thread on wiki about a GOP congress critter having his wiki page purged by someone. The site reverted to the original.

[QWDC]

I like how there is a big Ron Paul picture at the start of the history section, but he is not mentioned at all in it. If I had a wiki account I would revert it. Surely someone around here does.

[sailingaway]

I like how their is a big Ron Paul picture at the start of the history section, but he is not mentioned at all in it. If I had a wiki account I would revert it. Surely someone around here does.

we definitely have people with wiki accounts. We will just have to bring it to their attention when they are on here.

[ChristianAnarchist]

Hey, anyone can set up a wiki account... The more the merrier...

[sailingaway]

Hey, anyone can set up a wiki account... The more the merrier...

you have to have an editing account. Can anyone set up one of those?

[sailingaway]

Hey, anyone can set up a wiki account... The more the merrier...

you have to have an editing account. Can anyone set up one of those?

[Valli6]

Whole sections have been added since I posted this earler this afternoon! Now Newt Gingrich is on there! What the hell?! It's gotta be Romney's people.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tea_Party_movement

Reading it.... OMG! DISGUSTING! MAKE it STOP!

[sailingaway]

Newt and Ryan. Talk about making 'tea party' irrelevant as a brand. Whatever, people who follow principles, not labels, will find eachother whatever they call us.

[KingRobbStark]

I used to have an account, but i dont remember the password or the email i used.

[Working Poor]

you have to have an editing account. Can anyone set up one of those?

yes but it can be challenged when you edit an article you will need to site your sources

[Indy Vidual]

you have to have an editing account. Can anyone set up one of those?

Anyone can make edits, and they also have "editors" who have more power in case of conflicts.

[ChristianAnarchist]

Ok, I made an edit that puts in the following: "Perhaps the first "Tea Party" event on record was an event for Ron Paul dubbed "Boston TeaParty07" on December 16th, 2007. This event included the throwing of boxes labeled "tea" and "IRS" among others, into the bay. This event was also notable in making online "Money Bomb" history as the largest one-day fundraising event at $6.5 million. <ref>http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2007/12/ron_pauls_tea_p.html</ref>"

Let's see how long it stays there. I cited a reference that was already in the reference list...

[sailingaway]

Anyone can make edits, and they also have "editors" who have more power in case of conflicts.

thanks. I knew it used to be editable, but I thought they had changed that.

[Valli6]

Now Herman Cain's picture is there too!

Maybe it's these people:


Will The Real Tea Party Please Stand Up?
Some say the "Ron Paul Festival" will be the legitimate tea party event at the convention. Others say the Michelle Bachman-Herman Cain headlined "Unity Rally 2012" is the real deal. Tea partiers attending Ron Paul's event say the Texas Rep. is the only rightful tea party candidate for president while those attending the Unity Rally think Mitt Romney deserves their endorsement.
And both sides have some heated words to share with the other.

http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/washington-whispers/2012/07/26/will-the-real-tea-party-please-stand-up
Editing wiki for the free advertising?

[sailingaway]

Now Herman Cain's picture is there too!

Maybe it's these people:


Editing wiki for the free advertising?

or to cite back to their own editing as proof of their speaker's 'authenticity'.

[sailingaway]

http://www.theamericanconservative.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Picture-4.png

I would definitely say it is these guys. We need to edit in the astroturfing of the tea party meme, showing appropriate voting record points etc, imho.

they even stole branding from black this out.

[Expatriate]

Seems to be locked in now, I can't make edits.

[sailingaway]

Seems to be locked in now, I can't make edits.

I think only a select group can, but I thought we had some of that group. If so, hopefully they will see it.

[The Free Hornet]

Using the Way Back Machine (http://archive.org/web/web.php), you can get snapshots of old pages (here too, but don't tell that to people deleting their posts):

http://web.archive.org/web/20110716211445/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tea_Party_movement

Paul Ryan went from ZERO references to like a half dozen. Ron Paul was dropped in many instances (not eliminated - there was too much to find it all).

Pathetic. Great catch on that!

[randpaul2016]

FROM WIKI

Fox News commentator Juan Williams argues that the Tea Party movement emerged from the "ashes" of Ron Paul's 2008 presidential primary campaign

In an August 2010 article for Foreign Policy magazine, Ron Paul outlined foreign policy views the Tea Party movement

The Tea Party movement's membership includes notable Republican politicians Ron Paul, his son Rand Paul, Sarah Palin, Dick Armey, and Michele Bachmann. The elder Paul is described by some as the "intellectual godfather" of the movement

Perhaps the first "Tea Party" event on record was an event for Ron Paul dubbed "Boston TeaParty07" on December 16th, 2007

[ClydeCoulter]

You can argue the case for Ron Paul on the discussion page (with lots of sources) for the wiki page, and that is a good place to mention voting records, etc.......that will chase the flies away :)

They can't delete your discussion.

[Tudo]

But we're hated because of our freedom and prosperity.

I was watching ( search vietnam anti war protests ) and feeling good about at least thowing a few back at them before before forced to join. Now? They all volunteer.

[Valli6]

Looks like I was wrong about Cain and Gingriches pictures just apearing today. Wayback machine shows thay were there in July. I must've missed them earlier because I was just clicking down the page searching for 'Paul'. Sorry.
http://wayback.archive.org/web/*/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tea_Party_movement

[BSU kid]

I was a heavy editor on Wikipedia since I was roughly 12 years old, and what I learned from that experience is that Wikipedia is an immensely political site. Few people care about the content (except for the Military History and Tropical Cyclone Projects mainly) instead they like arguing political points, or try to grab administrative powers by censoring editors who they disagree with. The ideas of the site are noble, but these edits show that it is not perfect.

[randpaul2016]

dont get the contract on america part...

[sailingaway]

Looks like I was wrong about Cain and Gingriches pictures just apearing today. Wayback machine shows thay were there in July. I must've missed them earlier because I was just clicking down the page searching for 'Paul'. Sorry.
http://wayback.archive.org/web/*/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tea_Party_movement

I'm sure they added them when they were campaigning. Ryan now, I'm betting that is new.

[WesSeid]

Don't forget if you need more Tea Party proof there are videos right on youtube that were uploaded in 2007.

[Bastiat's The Law]

Snort.
Our people should edit in Ryan's voting record, for TARP, No Child Left Behind, Medicare D with its big PHARMA boondoggle, GM Bailouts.... etc.
Golden! With a link to Ben Swann's expose'

[Bastiat's The Law]

Don't forget if you need more Tea Party proof there are videos right on youtube that were uploaded in 2007.
It was worldwide too!

[JK/SEA]

In some back and forth on a different political site i go to, an individual informed me that the Tea Party movement, and Ron Paul's fundraiser by the same name in 2007, are not the same thing, and to try and say Ron Paul supporters started the modern day Tea Party is...silly. Of course i didn't take that laying down, but i was respectful while he continued to say i was lying....i think i was over the target...lol...

[sailingaway]

In some back and forth on a different political site i go to, an individual informed me that the Tea Party movement, and Ron Paul's fundraiser by the same name in 2007, are not the same thing, and to try and say Ron Paul supporters started the modern day Tea Party is...silly. Of course i didn't take that laying down, but i was respectful while he continued to say i was lying....i think i was over the target...lol...

And our folks' use of tricorner hats and fifes and drums throughout? And language of the founders and Constitution? Still?

Not the tea bags, though. WE know they had loose tea in the 1700s. Our guys tossed crates and barrels into the bay...

[HOLLYWOOD]

Who's the owners of the page?

Can't someone file a complaint for deleting info etc? If everyone starts editing the page, they'll probably lock it.

[ClydeCoulter]

Who's the owners of the page?

Can't someone file a complaint for deleting info etc? If everyone starts editing the page, they'll probably lock it.

The "Talk" button/tab at the top is where to discuss it. They have pretty lame arguments... There's really no discussion of the media and republicans taking over the name, etc..much

[HOLLYWOOD]

The "Talk" button/tab at the top is where to discuss it. They have pretty lame arguments... There's really no discussion of the media and republicans taking over the name, etc..much
FOX NEWS TEA PARTY is mentioned

http://i533.photobucket.com/albums/ee332/McLieberman/DSC01286.jpg

[Okie RP fan]

I'm really beginning to think it's time to move on from the Tea Party.

It's been co opted from the top and all the way down, now. Second, it does not help us with those who are more socially left. I believe some have been stating that the label is adversely affecting candidates such as Kerry Bentivolio. I mean, obviously use it where it's effective, but, I can't associate myself with the Tea Party anymore. It's purpose and meaning are the opposite of it's rebirth back in 2007. It's more big government Republicans running the show.

[WesSeid]

I thought someone mentioned it, but if not, there's a clip of Juan Williams on Fox News saying Ron Paul is the father/godfather of the Tea Party. If Fox News says it, it must be true to neocons, so there you are.

[thoughtomator]

Someone should helpfully add a "obsolescence" section

[ClydeCoulter]

FOX NEWS TEA PARTY is mentioned

http://i533.photobucket.com/albums/ee332/McLieberman/DSC01286.jpg

Does it talk about the take-over of the Tea Party name? That's what I'd like to see in the wiki :)

oh, and what's the date on that? Is that 2009?

[Bastiat's The Law]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bNiDx7qTjA

[Bastiat's The Law]

Not to mention we owned the domain TeaParty07.com


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQQPm9hoq9E

[ChristianAnarchist]

Wow, my edit is still there after 24 hours... Here's what I added to the page:

Early local protest events

Perhaps the first "Tea Party" event on record was an event for Ron Paul dubbed "Boston TeaParty07" on December 16th, 2007. This event included the throwing of boxes labeled "tea" and "IRS" among others, into the bay. This event was also notable in making online "Money Bomb" history as the largest one-day fundraising event at $6.5 million. [50]

[Barrex]

That page is on fire.

Me being an ass and dealing with law: REGISTER "TEA PARTY" TRADEMARK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Take ownership of "Tea Party". Screw them and their "it is my". Get legal document saying it is ours!!!... and then dont allow any one of them to use it...(It needs further research since it is historic event but in Croatia and BiH it would work.)

Move quickly and silently:

STEP 1: Hire a trademark attorney (http://www.uspto.gov/trademarks/basics/private_attorney.jsp).
STEP 2: Identify your mark format (http://www.uspto.gov/trademarks/basics/mark.jsp): a standard character mark, a stylized/design mark, or a sound mark.
STEP 3: Identify clearly the precise goods and/or services (http://tess2.uspto.gov/netahtml/tidm.html)to which the mark will apply.
STEP 4:Search the USPTO database (http://www.uspto.gov/trademarks/basics/searching.jsp) to determine whether anyone is already claiming trademark rights in a particular mark through a federal registration.
STEP 5: Identify the proper "basis" for filing (http://www.uspto.gov/trademarks/basics/Basis.jsp) a trademark application.
STEP 6: File the application online (http://www.uspto.gov/trademarks/basics/online_filing.jsp) through the Trademark Electronic Application System (http://www.uspto.gov/trademarks/teas/index.jsp). View trademark fee information (http://www.uspto.gov/trademarks/tm_fee_info.jsp). REMINDERS: (1) The application fee is a processing fee that is not refunded, even if ultimately no registration certificate issues; that, is, not all applications result in registrations; and (2) All information you submit to the USPTO at any point in the application and/or registration process will become public record (http://www.uspto.gov/trademarks/teas/public_data.jsp), including your name, phone number, e-mail address, and street address.

It can be done in 1 day!!!!!! (middle finger to them/they).....thum, thum, thum, blood turns the wheels of history!!!thum, thum, thum.... drums are calling you to stand up and fight... thum, thum , thum....LIBERTYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY ANDDDDD MIDDLE FINGER TO THEMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM........................

http://www.uspto.gov/trademarks/basics/definitions.jsp

http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=toc&state=4009%3A9gkjks.1.1&p_search=searchss&p_L=50&BackReference=&p_plural=yes&p_s_PARA1=&p_tagrepl~%3A=PARA1%24LD&expr=PARA1+AND+PARA2&p_s_PARA2=Tea+Party&p_tagrepl~%3A=PARA2%24COMB&p_op_ALL=AND&a_default=search&a_search=Submit+Query&a_search=Submit+Query

(http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=toc&state=4009%3A9gkjks.1.1&p_search=searchss&p_L=50&BackReference=&p_plural=yes&p_s_PARA1=&p_tagrepl~%3A=PARA1%24LD&expr=PARA1+AND+PARA2&p_s_PARA2=Tea+Party&p_tagrepl~%3A=PARA2%24COMB&p_op_ALL=AND&a_default=search&a_search=Submit+Query&a_search=Submit+Query)http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4009:9gkjks.2.28
(http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4009:9gkjks.2.28)http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4009:9gkjks.2.29
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[ninepointfive]

That page is on fire.

Me being an ass and dealing with law: REGISTER "TEA PARTY" TRADEMARK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Take ownership of "Tea Party". Screw them and their "it is my". Get legal document saying it is ours!!!... and then dont allow any one of them to use it...(It needs further research since it is historic event but in Croatia and BiH it would work.)

Move quickly and silently:

STEP 1: Hire a trademark attorney (http://www.uspto.gov/trademarks/basics/private_attorney.jsp).
STEP 2: Identify your mark format (http://www.uspto.gov/trademarks/basics/mark.jsp): a standard character mark, a stylized/design mark, or a sound mark.
STEP 3: Identify clearly the precise goods and/or services (http://tess2.uspto.gov/netahtml/tidm.html)to which the mark will apply.
STEP 4:Search the USPTO database (http://www.uspto.gov/trademarks/basics/searching.jsp) to determine whether anyone is already claiming trademark rights in a particular mark through a federal registration.
STEP 5: Identify the proper "basis" for filing (http://www.uspto.gov/trademarks/basics/Basis.jsp) a trademark application.
STEP 6: File the application online (http://www.uspto.gov/trademarks/basics/online_filing.jsp) through the Trademark Electronic Application System (http://www.uspto.gov/trademarks/teas/index.jsp). View trademark fee information (http://www.uspto.gov/trademarks/tm_fee_info.jsp). REMINDERS: (1) The application fee is a processing fee that is not refunded, even if ultimately no registration certificate issues; that, is, not all applications result in registrations; and (2) All information you submit to the USPTO at any point in the application and/or registration process will become public record (http://www.uspto.gov/trademarks/teas/public_data.jsp), including your name, phone number, e-mail address, and street address.

It can be done in 1 day!!!!!! (middle finger to them/they).....thum, thum, thum, blood turns the wheels of history!!!thum, thum, thum.... drums are calling you to stand up and fight... thum, thum , thum....LIBERTYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY ANDDDDD MIDDLE FINGER TO THEMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM........................

http://www.uspto.gov/trademarks/basics/definitions.jsp

http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=toc&state=4009%3A9gkjks.1.1&p_search=searchss&p_L=50&BackReference=&p_plural=yes&p_s_PARA1=&p_tagrepl~%3A=PARA1%24LD&expr=PARA1+AND+PARA2&p_s_PARA2=Tea+Party&p_tagrepl~%3A=PARA2%24COMB&p_op_ALL=AND&a_default=search&a_search=Submit+Query&a_search=Submit+Query

(http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=toc&state=4009%3A9gkjks.1.1&p_search=searchss&p_L=50&BackReference=&p_plural=yes&p_s_PARA1=&p_tagrepl~%3A=PARA1%24LD&expr=PARA1+AND+PARA2&p_s_PARA2=Tea+Party&p_tagrepl~%3A=PARA2%24COMB&p_op_ALL=AND&a_default=search&a_search=Submit+Query&a_search=Submit+Query)http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4009:9gkjks.2.28
(http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4009:9gkjks.2.28)http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4009:9gkjks.2.29
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Are you going to do this? sounds like you're the perfect one for the job!

[Barrex]

Are you going to do this? sounds like you're the perfect one for the job!

Would love to ;) but not possible: Not US citizen. Liberty lover from Croatia... It is not complicated at all.

[ninepointfive]

Would love to ;) but not possible: Not US citizen. Liberty lover from Croatia... It is not complicated at all.

ahh - I didn't see your location.

Well, there already are a lot of registered tea parties - some hostile to our interests. But it's a good shot nonetheless.

At one time, I was really motivated to start the actual political party, the "Tea Party" then we could really go after all the infringing groups. Easier said than done at this point, but possible.

[brandon]

This article is Semi-Protected. THey do this to articles that are getting too popular.

Semi-protection prevents edits from unregistered users (IP addresses), as well as edits from any account that is not autoconfirmed (is at least four days old and has at least ten edits to Wikipedia) or confirmed.

[Valli6]

I'm really beginning to think it's time to move on from the Tea Party.
It's been co opted from the top and all the way down, now. Second, it does not help us with those who are more socially left. I believe some have been stating that the label is adversely affecting candidates such as Kerry Bentivolio. I mean, obviously use it where it's effective, but, I can't associate myself with the Tea Party anymore. It's purpose and meaning are the opposite of it's rebirth back in 2007. It's more big government Republicans running the show.

I mostly agree - "Liberty Movement" is seeming more proper these days. At the same time, this is exactly why I resent seeing all that effort/hard work being tossed down the memory hole like this. Paul supporters are entitled to being credited with starting the whole Tea Party phenomenon.

(I posted most of this elswhere)

The most significant aspects of the 2007 Tea Party I would like to see noted:

- it was an ENTIRELY grass roots creation - no campaign, media or strategists involved.
- We are the ones that chose the Boston Tea Party and the Gadsen flag to symbolize our discontent and demand to be heard.
- It was a co-ordinated effort and took place all around the country (and even in some other countries)
- this effort continues to be marginalized by the media.
- it was later co-opted and the message warped by political operatives and media persons
- only after this co-option, would the media acknowledge the "Tea Party".

All of the imagery, symbols and most of the subject matter of later tea parties are blatant imitations of the first tea parties we held around the country in 2007. Extensive youtube video bears this out. Before then, none of the latecomers cared or ever referenced the importance of following the Constitution, nor showed much respect for anything the founding fathers had to say.
The vast majority of Republicans failed to speak out about the power grabs, the ever-growing size of government, or the atrocious over-spending of both parties - until Obama entered office.

When Ron Paul ended his candidacy in 2008, he warned us that when you start a successful movement, there will always be opportunists who step out in front of your parade and try to lead it to benefit their own agenda. I think it may have been in the email he sent out immediately after stating he was officially ending his campaign. At the time I thought, "No way! They couldn't do it!" But in the end this is exactly what we witnessed first hand with the Tea Party.

[Travlyr]

The beauty of the free market in action. "Caveat Emptor"

I don't trust the information on Wikipedia. It is not all bad info, but it is to be used only for general information.

[Athan]

Would love to ;) but not possible: Not US citizen. Liberty lover from Croatia... It is not complicated at all.
Big Ron Paul supporter hello to Croatia from Texas!

[Keith and stuff]

These references to Ryan were added:
In August, presumed Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney selected Rep. Paul Ryan of Wisconsin as his vice-presidential running mate.[152] The move was praised by the Tea Party Express,[153] the Tea Party Patriots,[154] Sarah Palin,[155] as well as many other Tea Party groups[156][157][158] and Libertarians.[159]


It looks like editors are only to make limited changes every 24 hours. That said, I don't know of a group of Libertarian Party members that praised the selection of Paul Ryan. That's why the "and Libertarians" was removed from that sentence. It is easy to correct Wikipedia when people blatantly lie and make something up, the add a source completely unrelated to their point. Unfortunately, most of the recent edits weren't so absurd.

[Carson]

You can't really have a thread about the first Tea Party with out recalling the founding fathers and their act of defiance.

You also can't really have a thread on the origins of the modern day revival without the Ron Paul 2007 event.

And Rick Santelli (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Santelli) also deserves mention for keeping the modern TEA Party alive and in our hearts. He is one courageous American taking a stand on the front lines.

http://photos.imageevent.com/stokeybob/newbegining/ron_paul_tea_party_harbor.jpg

P.S. There was some good video out on the Ron Paul 2008 event. I'm not sure if it is still around.

[BSU kid]

Check out this convo:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Tea_Party_movement/Archive_19#The_Tea_Party_is_not_libertarian

[1stAmendguy]

Ok, I just added a caption to the picture of Ron Paul. If anyone wants to add anything to the article with references let me know because I have an old account.

[sailingaway]

Ok, I just added a caption to the picture of Ron Paul. If anyone wants to add anything to the article with references let me know because I have an old account.

can you post a link to this? It doesn't show walking the country to teach about the Constitution, though, they took that out in the remix. would that version be better? If that isn't original tea party, I don't know what is.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GR4WYqabTxU

[1stAmendguy]

can you post a link to this? It doesn't show walking the country to teach about the Constitution, though, they took that out in the remix. would that version be better? If that isn't original tea party, I don't know what is.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GR4WYqabTxU

You mean place in the external links section?

[1stAmendguy]

I added it to the external links at the bottom.

[BSU kid]

I added it to the external links at the bottom.

It will probably be removed as spam per WP:SPAM, and WP:EL just my guess though. Solid articles and scholarly sources probably will not though.

[sailingaway]

I added it to the external links at the bottom.

thank you!

[Bastiat's The Law]

can you post a link to this? It doesn't show walking the country to teach about the Constitution, though, they took that out in the remix. would that version be better? If that isn't original tea party, I don't know what is.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GR4WYqabTxUC
Cite both films, the updated one and the original one. Maybe we could get a shot of just the walkers leading the march and everything.

[Bastiat's The Law]

Wow, my edit is still there after 24 hours... Here's what I added to the page:

Early local protest events

Perhaps the first "Tea Party" event on record was an event for Ron Paul dubbed "Boston TeaParty07" on December 16th, 2007. This event included the throwing of boxes labeled "tea" and "IRS" among others, into the bay. This event was also notable in making online "Money Bomb" history as the largest one-day fundraising event at $6.5 million. [50]
Why do you guys always cite the Boston Tea Party with Rand? That was just one TeaParty07 event, they happened all over the U.S. and even some in other countries! I know Dr. Paul attended one in Texas I believe. San Diego had a big turn out event.

[ChristianAnarchist]

Why do you guys always cite the Boston Tea Party with Rand? That was just one TeaParty07 event, they happened all over the U.S. and even some in other countries! I know Dr. Paul attended one in Texas I believe. San Diego had a big turn out event.

That's true. I should update my edit to reflect that...

[ClydeCoulter]

That's true. I should update my edit to reflect that...

Please :)

[Peace&Freedom]

This Wiki episode shows the establishment agenda is to control historical understanding of the Tea Party as a grassroots, independent movement, and make it seem like it was always just a disgruntled faction of the GOP. That's why Paul's role was de-emphasized in the revised entries, as he ruins the narrative of the party absorbing the movement and championing its issues (hence the mentions of Gingrich, Ryan et al).

Major parties seek to either co-opt or purge alternative groups. Republican leaders have sought to co-opt the Tea Party, and put it to use to purge other movements. In PA, they are trying to recruit TP groups to help kick both the LP and CP candidates off the ballot:

http://www.wbindependentgazette.com/press-releases/

[Bastiat's The Law]

That's true. I should update my edit to reflect that...
Kudos +Rep

[Bastiat's The Law]

One video that galvanized the Tea Party movement for me, besides the genesis in Ron Paul's movement, was Congressman Gresham Barrett being booed into oblivion by a beautiful crowd fed up with the same old establishment politicians. Hilarious video.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJQVNXfKujc

[Jingles]

In PA, they are trying to recruit TP groups to help kick both the LP and CP candidates off the ballot:

http://www.wbindependentgazette.com/press-releases/

It seems like PA gets worse politically the further away I am from it and Virginia get's slightly better the more I am in it.

[Natural Citizen]

The thing ought to be scribbled up like a menu. Separate the bitter TEA from the sour TEA. Separate the instant TEA from the home brewed stuff and so forth.

I've never liked the idea of just any old body being able to edit these wiki pages. Especially where TEA is relevant in this day. There is a clear and very cleverly applied divide between several different political elements who have simply jumped on the TEA party bandwagon. Would be nice if one were to be vetted in some manner before they just get to go and edit crucial information relevant to forming what will equate to a generic position. Especially considering the fact that not all who claim to support Ron Paul's flavor of TEA actually do and partnered with the old working from within gag that is itself extremely transparent depending upon what language is able to be deciphered and from whom. Of course not all are disingenuous but one cannot be so naive to not consider the obvious when tmany are so transparent in their efforts.

At the very least one should consider rescribbling the controversy section. Because what I read there is absolutely not the real terms of controversy. In fact it should read like I've mentioned above keeping the same players in the spot light obviously.

Editing wiki is a full time job though. I hope folks understand that. And relevant to a broad spectrum. And you're not just working against opposing political factions here in the states either. Not by a long shot. And that's important to accept when defining the actual terms of controversy.

[1stAmendguy]

Now it says that Ron Paul WAS NOT the founder of the Tea Party!

"the elder Paul is not the Tea Party's founder, or its culturally resonant figure, but has become the "intellectual godfather" of the movement as many now agree with his long-held beliefs."

[QuickZ06]

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