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phill4paul
08-13-2012, 12:22 PM
Suspect in Custody, Shooting Near Highland and Fidelity Streets in College Station


Update from the City of College Station

12:55 p.m.

According to CSPD, the active shooter has been contained. Multiple casualties are involved, but there is no confirmation yet on the identity of any, or whether or not any are members of local law enforcement agencies.

College Station Police continue to work the area of Fidelity Street to ensure there aren’t any additional suspects involved.

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Update: Police have shooter in custody.

News 3 is en-route to an officer involved shooting in College Station.

Reports via police scanner say it's near Fidelity and Highland streets.

It appears that the shooter is shooting from a house with automatic weapons.

Scanner traffic indicates that at least two officers are down.
Details are limited at this time.

We have a crew headed to the scene and we will have more on this as details are made available.

http://www.kbtx.com/home/headlines/Shooting-in-Progress-Near-Welborn-and-Fidelity-Streets-in-College-Station-166000226.html

phill4paul
08-13-2012, 12:41 PM
Officers down. Reportedly two. Suspect in custody.

COpatriot
08-13-2012, 12:55 PM
Unbelievable.

donnay
08-13-2012, 01:04 PM
Wonder if there were drills going on?

ZENemy
08-13-2012, 01:05 PM
So its going to be a weekly thing? :(

tangent4ronpaul
08-13-2012, 01:08 PM
What - 5 posts and no one has broken out the tin foil yet? :confused:

I tell ya, this place is loosin it... :rolleyes:

-t

RickyJ
08-13-2012, 01:09 PM
So its going to be a weekly thing? :(

I am surprised it is not a daily thing really. Maybe it is, they only report and spin on what they want to.

jkr
08-13-2012, 01:10 PM
might be time to buy that fire stick, b4 they be alllllllllll gone

DGambler
08-13-2012, 01:11 PM
So its going to be a weekly thing? :(

It will be until they ban our guns. :rolleyes:

pcosmar
08-13-2012, 01:21 PM
What - 5 posts and no one has broken out the tin foil yet? :confused:

I tell ya, this place is loosin it... :rolleyes:

-t

I tend to like to have a story,,before I start examining the story..

Like was it targeted,,? Gang,,employer,,family dispute,,etc..
Or was it a random shooting for no reason at all..(no one does something for NO reason at all)

Then witness statements as opposed to sanitized official statements..

Only then do I start questioning,, if shit does not add up.

edit,,for example.. Shooting at college,,college locked down..
However it seems to be at an intersection,, off campus.
Still looking.
Sparse info as yet. looking.

James Madison
08-13-2012, 01:21 PM
I am surprised it is not a daily thing really. Maybe it is, they only report and spin on what they want to.

It is a daily thing. Take a trip up to Chicago or East St. Louis if you don't believe me.

belian78
08-13-2012, 01:25 PM
It is a daily thing. Take a trip up to Chicago or East St. Louis if you don't believe me.

You don't even have to do that anymore. All the trash from Chicago and EStL move to Central IL 'for a better life' and begin making it just like the hood they left. Peoria IL has become a freakin war zone (but on the bright side, we just got the ok to militarize our police force!!!! /s) shootings every night. Just two nights ago there was a shooting in a banquet room off of a movieplex/bowling alley that my GF and I take our kids to just about every week. It's all over the place.

pcosmar
08-13-2012, 01:29 PM
There are shooting around me all the time..
Mostly folks target practicing,, sometimes hunting or pest control.

Shooting is pretty common though.

dillo
08-13-2012, 01:34 PM
This isnt on cnn or fox websites


INTERDASTING

pcosmar
08-13-2012, 01:38 PM
This isnt on cnn or fox websites


INTERDASTING

One report says only one civilian causality.. several Police..

Or course the original "automatic weapons fire"..
I doubt it,, most of these fools wouldn't know auto fire from a pump shotgun.

DGambler
08-13-2012, 01:39 PM
This isnt on cnn or fox websites; INTERDASTING

http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/13/justice/texas-am-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

phill4paul
08-13-2012, 01:57 PM
Shooter apparently died from wounds. Speculation that it was about an eviction.

kathy88
08-13-2012, 01:57 PM
Ron's granddaughter goes there.

Pericles
08-13-2012, 01:58 PM
Word is that an eviction action met somebody who was not going.

pcosmar
08-13-2012, 02:03 PM
Ron's granddaughter goes there.

Not on the Campus,, and nothing to do with the College.
Sensational headlines were sensational.

pcosmar
08-13-2012, 02:05 PM
Word is that an eviction action met somebody who was not going.

I was getting the impression that someone was resisting police,, effectively.

James Madison
08-13-2012, 02:07 PM
I was getting the impression that someone was resisting police,, effectively.

Be prepared for the ensuing pandemic of police worship. It's sad, too, since most cops aren't bad individuals. They're made to enforce ridiculous laws that put them and everyone else in needless danger. Blind praising leads to the acceptance that any laws they enforce, right or wrong, are just.

dillo
08-13-2012, 02:39 PM
Be prepared for the ensuing pandemic of police worship. It's sad, too, since most cops aren't bad individuals. They're made to enforce ridiculous laws that put them and everyone else in needless danger. Blind praising leads to the acceptance that any laws they enforce, right or wrong, are just.

most nazis probably werent bad people before the haulocaust

Revolution9
08-13-2012, 02:49 PM
most nazis probably werent bad people before the haulocaust

Haulocast is a great name for shoah business.

Rev9

James Madison
08-13-2012, 02:53 PM
most nazis probably werent bad people before the haulocaust

What's your point?

RabbitMan
08-13-2012, 03:09 PM
I know cops who come to my place of work. Not all of them are bad, even in my city where they are exceptionally atrocious. It's interesting how your viewpoint of the 'other' changes when you actually talk to them and see them as human beings, instead of stereotyping them as dog-killing maniacs. Although I DO find the number of dog killing stories here hilarious, with all due respect to the owners.

Anti Federalist
08-13-2012, 03:09 PM
Word is that an eviction action met somebody who was not going.

And Roger Pion is a bad guy???

"I don't think I'm gonna let you arrest us today, Beehan."

Anti Federalist
08-13-2012, 03:10 PM
I know cops who come to my place of work. Not all of them are bad, even in my city where they are exceptionally atrocious. It's interesting how your viewpoint of the 'other' changes when you actually talk to them and see them as human beings, instead of stereotyping them as dog-killing maniacs. Although I DO find the number of dog killing stories here hilarious, with all due respect to the owners.

Hilarious?

I could post daily stories about people getting their heads thumped or SWAT raided for no good reason, but, nobody seemed to give a shit.

I figured, since so many people anthropomorphize dogs into "furry people" that random dog killings might elicit more outrage.

But now, it's hilarious?

phill4paul
08-13-2012, 03:11 PM
I know cops who come to my place of work. Not all of them are bad, even in my city where they are exceptionally atrocious. It's interesting how your viewpoint of the 'other' changes when you actually talk to them and see them as human beings, instead of stereotyping them as dog-killing maniacs. Although I DO find the number of dog killing stories here hilarious, with all due respect to the owners.

Oh yeah, it's a fuckin' chuckle a day.

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tod evans
08-13-2012, 03:13 PM
Dunkin'-Donuts pay well?


I know cops who come to my place of work. Not all of them are bad, even in my city where they are exceptionally atrocious. It's interesting how your viewpoint of the 'other' changes when you actually talk to them and see them as human beings, instead of stereotyping them as dog-killing maniacs. Although I DO find the number of dog killing stories here hilarious, with all due respect to the owners.

Anti Federalist
08-13-2012, 03:14 PM
most nazis probably werent bad people before the haulocaust

Most of them were mild mannered civil servants who were doing their "patriotic duty to the homeland/motherland/fatherland".

kathy88
08-13-2012, 03:25 PM
I know cops who come to my place of work. Not all of them are bad, even in my city where they are exceptionally atrocious. It's interesting how your viewpoint of the 'other' changes when you actually talk to them and see them as human beings, instead of stereotyping them as dog-killing maniacs. Although I DO find the number of dog killing stories here hilarious, with all due respect to the owners.Hilarious may be the poorest choice of a word. Ever.

Pericles
08-13-2012, 09:11 PM
Dunkin'-Donuts pay well?

I had to login to +rep that.

Origanalist
08-13-2012, 09:32 PM
I know cops who come to my place of work. Not all of them are bad, even in my city where they are exceptionally atrocious. It's interesting how your viewpoint of the 'other' changes when you actually talk to them and see them as human beings, instead of stereotyping them as dog-killing maniacs. Although I DO find the number of dog killing stories here hilarious, with all due respect to the owners.

Congratulations, you just earned my first neg rep. And Seattle cops are hardly "exceptionally atrocious".

pcosmar
08-13-2012, 09:41 PM
Doesn't say who shot the Civilians.
The guy was shooting at cops,, who returned fire.
Only says the civilian was caught in the crossfire.


Police said 43-year-old Chris Northcliff, an innocent bystander, was also fatally shot in the crossfire of the lunchtime barrage.

A second innocent bystander, a 55-year-old woman, was in critical condition after undergoing surgery on her bullet wounds, police said. Her name was not immediately released.

Blaine Burke, an A&M finance student, said the female victim was a mother helping her daughter move in to a nearby home.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/gunman-opens-fire-texas-a-m-university-injuring-including-police-officer-gunman-custody-article-1.1135410#ixzz23ULvLlq0

Futile effort on the homeowners part,,

edit
Editorial slant,, Guy was "Nut".. Cop was "Hero"

Cody1
08-13-2012, 10:12 PM
I know cops who come to my place of work. Not all of them are bad, even in my city where they are exceptionally atrocious. It's interesting how your viewpoint of the 'other' changes when you actually talk to them and see them as human beings, instead of stereotyping them as dog-killing maniacs. Although I DO find the number of dog killing stories here hilarious, with all due respect to the owners.

GTFO of here with that bullshit. You're a disgusting individual.

QuickZ06
08-13-2012, 10:20 PM
Dunkin'-Donuts pay well?

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to tod evans again. :(

You are good.

QuickZ06
08-13-2012, 10:22 PM
I know cops who come to my place of work. Not all of them are bad, even in my city where they are exceptionally atrocious. It's interesting how your viewpoint of the 'other' changes when you actually talk to them and see them as human beings, instead of stereotyping them as dog-killing maniacs. Although I DO find the number of dog killing stories here hilarious, with all due respect to the owners.

Here, this is for the next time they come in.


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Origanalist
08-13-2012, 10:25 PM
Here, this is for the next time they come in.


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Vicious..... vicious I say. +rep :)

cajuncocoa
08-13-2012, 10:29 PM
I know cops who come to my place of work. Not all of them are bad, even in my city where they are exceptionally atrocious. It's interesting how your viewpoint of the 'other' changes when you actually talk to them and see them as human beings, instead of stereotyping them as dog-killing maniacs. Although I DO find the number of dog killing stories here hilarious, with all due respect to the owners.

Disgusting.

John F Kennedy III
08-13-2012, 11:10 PM
Wonder if there were drills going on?

Does anyone know?

John F Kennedy III
08-13-2012, 11:35 PM
Here, this is for the next time they come in.


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I love you bro.

youngbuck
08-14-2012, 12:31 AM
Hilarious may be the poorest choice of a word. Ever.

When I first read it, that's what I thought it was. I interpreted it as hilariously absurd, because sometimes my sense of humor is similar. Not that he actually thinks killing dogs is funny. I could be wrong though.

Anti Federalist
08-14-2012, 06:32 AM
When I first read it, that's what I thought it was. I interpreted it as hilariously absurd, because sometimes my sense of humor is similar. Not that he actually thinks killing dogs is funny. I could be wrong though.

I don't know.

Was it a drive by posting?

Trolling?

Poor crafting of a sentence?

Anti Federalist
08-14-2012, 06:40 AM
A neighbor and former medic, Rigo Cisneros, called 911 when he heard the shooting. In video shot on his cellphone showing police officers running into the house, Cisneros, 40, can be heard asking an officer if an ambulance is coming and if he can meanwhile tend to Bachmann's wounds.

The officer tells Cisneros he must wait until the shooting scene is secure.

Cisneros told The Bryan-College Station Eagle that by the time he was allowed to approach Bachmann's body, it was too late.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hN9gkJIJITSPiyzm97cOjHiJAUAw?docId=3726bdba7 0f4476f875efa969b1d6ae7

Pericles
08-14-2012, 09:11 AM
That was interesting because current military doctrine is to win the engagement, and then treat the wounded. We used to send the platoon medic (infantry unit) immediately to seriously wounded - but that kind of assumed Geneva Convention rules.

pcosmar
08-14-2012, 04:21 PM
Sufficiently Vague.

Looking for any more info on this..I find
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hN9gkJIJITSPiyzm97cOjHiJAUAw?docId=3726bdba7 0f4476f875efa969b1d6ae7
Attorney: Gunman in shootout had 'mental issues'


COLLEGE STATION, Texas (AP) — An attorney for the family of a gunman who was among three killed in a shootout near Texas A&M University said Tuesday that the gunman had been suffering from "mental issues."

Attorney W. Tyler Moore declined to elaborate on Tuesday what kind of mental problems 35-year-old Thomas Alton Caffall III had.

"He wasn't the same kid that he used to be, let's just say that," Moore said. "He was sweet, very bright, good sense of humor, just a good kid, a sweet kid. I've known him since he was 4 years old."

The family has an Attorney speaking for them.
What issues? Is the attorney a doctor? where is this diagnosis from?

If this guy had a history,, it would be posted,, Any gang-bangers Rap Sheet would be quoted.. if this guy had a criminal history it would have been reported yesterday.

And also vague,,

Police did not say whose gunfire struck the six others, including a constable and a bystander who died from their wounds.

He allegedly and apparently had an issue with the first cop that was serving the eviction notice.. (Valid?) and that is what started the shooting.

What about all the other bullets flying around.
Are they going to report "Friendly Fire".

So far the guy is a nut (unsubstantiated) and the Cop is a Hero (unsubstantiated).

it is all quite Vague.

phill4paul
08-14-2012, 04:43 PM
Mental issues seems to be a running theme. How long before firearms licenses are going to require a psyche-eval?

tod evans
08-14-2012, 04:46 PM
Mental issues seems to be a running theme. How long before firearms licenses are going to require a psyche-eval?

By whom.........a government employee? :eek:

angelatc
08-14-2012, 04:55 PM
I would be surprised if this gets much discussion. TPTB don't want the mundanes to get ideas about fighting back, and even the liberals have sympathy for people who are getting evicted.

This one gets filed in the memory hole.

pcosmar
08-14-2012, 05:19 PM
I would be surprised if this gets much discussion. TPTB don't want the mundanes to get ideas about fighting back, and even the liberals have sympathy for people who are getting evicted.

This one gets filed in the memory hole.

Easy to say he's a nut,, and just write it off.
My mind goes to other questions (none of which I have good answers for)

It is entirely possible that this guy had just been pushed hard enough and long enough for him to "just go off"

But,, was the Eviction notice valid,,and justified? or harassment?
Was it even the correct address? Not that cops ever go to the Wrong Address.
Was there belligerence that set this off. perhaps a threat,, real or implied.

And then there is the question of casualties. and who really shot who.
I have been expecting the habit of ,, spraying lots of rounds in the general direction of,,,
to end up in collateral damage.. am surprised it doesn't happen a lot more often.

yeah, I expect this to be written off as a nut. regardless of any facts.

Pericles
08-14-2012, 10:31 PM
I would be surprised if this gets much discussion. TPTB don't want the mundanes to get ideas about fighting back, and even the liberals have sympathy for people who are getting evicted.

This one gets filed in the memory hole.

Things have changed, but when I was at Texas A&M, you could (and I did) carry an M14 to class and nobody gave it a second thought.

KingRobbStark
08-14-2012, 10:39 PM
Things have changed, but when I was at Texas A&M, you could (and I did) carry an M14 to class and nobody gave it a second thought.

That was back when balls were plenty and displayed proudly.

Pericles
08-14-2012, 10:43 PM
That was back when balls were plenty and displayed proudly.

Depending on what you were doing, you might also need to take an 03 Springfield to class. That was back when if you weren't in the Corps of Cadets, your presence was merely tolerated.

Origanalist
08-14-2012, 10:47 PM
That was back when balls were plenty and displayed proudly.

Ah, yes. Those were the days...................

http://www.bumpernuts.com/Caboose%20006.jpg

Weston White
08-14-2012, 10:48 PM
I thought the point of history was to learn from our past mistakes? Doesn’t Texas hold a national record for the highest number of resulting deaths during the eviction process? Land tenants in Texas do not play any games when it comes to matters concerning their property rights. The sheriff’s office should be obliged to have SWAT and paramedics on standby whenever conducting evictions, so I would think.

donnay
08-14-2012, 11:51 PM
Does anyone know?

Nope, couldn't find anything about any drills held on that day but I found this. . .

EL PASO — One day after a shooting near the Texas A&M University campus in College Station that killed 3 people and injured 4 others, UTEP officials organized an active shooter emergency exercise on the UTEP campus.

Texas A&M officials issued a "code maroon" alert through their emergency notification system. The messages pinpointed the location of the shooting, and advised people to avoid the area, or stay inside if they lived nearby.

UTEP has a similar system in place called the, "Miner Alert," which sends out text messages and emails in the event of an emergency.

An active shooter reenactment exercise will be conducted between 8:00 a.m. and 1:00 p.m. Tuesday at Memorial Triangle Lawn and inside the Geological Sciences Building. The parking lot near the Liberal Arts building will be staged as a triage area for the "victims" during the exercise. The area surrounding Cotton Memorial may also be affected. Dormitory Rd. will be blocked off for potential use by emergency vehicles.

Faculty, staff, students and visitors who will be on campus during the exercise should avoid the areas.

The UTEP Police Department will work with the El Paso Police and Fire Departments during the exercise.

“Exercises in emergency management promote greater awareness and understanding within UTEP and among area public safety agencies as we continue to work together as one community to be better prepared,” said Chief Clifton Walsh of the UTEP Police Department.

The exercise is as follows:

The UTEP Police Department will receive a phone call about suspicious people on the University campus. Three people armed with rifles will fire “shots” near Memorial Triangle.

UTEP PD will confirm the situation and make the necessary decisions to contain the threat. El Paso PD will be called. UTEP dispatch will receive several calls that two people (CERT volunteers) have been “shot” on the lawn of Memorial Triangle. One of the “shooters” (EPPD Explorer) will be “eliminated” and a second will take “hostages” (CERT volunteers). There will be an attempt to negotiate the release of the “hostages” (CERT volunteers). The exercise will be complete once the “threat” is eliminated.

http://www.ktsm.com/news/utep-holds-active-shooter-emergency-exercise