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donnay
08-05-2012, 05:57 AM
Bankrupt California Cities Slash Public Services to Fund Six-Figure Pensions

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Sat, 04 Aug 2012 00:00 CDT

As some California cities face bankruptcy, public services are being slashed so unusually high pensions can stay on the books. Stockton's former police chief rakes in a pension of more than $200,000 a year, while also working another job.

*Former Stockton Police Chief Tom Morris retired with a $204,000 pension after just eight months on the job. While his California city became the largest in the US to file for bankruptcy, he moved to another city and makes an additional $76,066 salary at a new job.

The former police chief retired at age 52, and was among four of the city's chiefs who held the job for less than three years, while retiring with an average of 92 per cent of their final salaries.

But Morris' unusually high pension is not an isolated incident. City councils across California have allowed public safety employees to retire after working for 30 years and collect 90 per cent of their top salaries. But while raking in a sizable pension, they often take jobs elsewhere, while still in their early 50's.

Two former police chiefs in San Bernardino receive similarly high pensions. Keith Kilmer receives $216,581 annually, while working another job. His predecessor, Michael Billdt, who has no college degree and was accused of trying to bribe an officer to withdraw a union grievance in exchange for a dropped investigation, receives $205,014.

"We have some safety retirees that are actually earning more in retirement than they earned when they were working, because they were able to manipulate the system enough in that last year that they could crank that last year's income and then get 3 per cent times their 25 to 30 years," said Kathy Miller, the city's vice mayor, in an interview with Bloomberg News.

And these pensions are significantly higher than normal - an average annual payout from the California Public Employees' Retirement System is $36,780.

While Stockton decided on Morris' exceedingly high pension before going bankrupt, at a time when its finances seemed promising, it is now struggling to confront rising pension costs while also dealing with increasing unemployment and declining property and sales tax revenue.

While local California governments continue to pay six-figure lifetime benefits for some retirees, they are slashing local police and fire services to make up for the costs. They are also cutting library hours and other public services to keep up with the payments.

"We didn't have very many people looking out for the taxpayers when these deals were negotiated," San Jose Mayor Chuck Reed told Bloomberg News. In the past 10 years, his city increased retirement spending from $73 million to $245 million.

Stockton, which filed for bankruptcy protection on June 28, continues to fund expensive employee pensions that it can't afford.

In 2007, the city borrowed $125 million with a bond issue in order to pay for enhanced pension benefits. But when the market crashed, Stockton's assets lost one third of their value, and the town still owes $124 million on the bonds.

Meanwhile, San Bernardino, which filed for bankruptcy on August 1, had already lowered its retirement age for public safety workers from 55 to 50. In the past year, the city was forced to use 13 per cent of its budget to pay for its pensions, an increase from 9 per cent in 2007.

Lowering the retirement age took a strike at San Bernadino's budget that may have contributed to its bankruptcy filing.

But after they are made, pensions are usually set in stone, which causes a dilemma when cities like Stockton, San Bernardino and Mammoth Lakes go bankrupt.

"You don't want [employees] in a vulnerable position where [the pensions] easily could be lost, but then you also have to make sure that you have a fair system that can make adjustments if a city's finances are tanking," said State Controller John Chiang.

But while Stockton's former police chief is living the life with a quarter million dollars coming in a year, the broke city has been left in the dust as it struggles to continue funding the young retirees' income.

Nickels
08-05-2012, 11:15 AM
While Stockton decided on Morris' exceedingly high pension before going bankrupt, at a time when its finances seemed promising, it is now struggling to confront rising pension costs while also dealing with increasing unemployment and declining property and sales tax revenue.

that what doesn't make sense to me. If property values are dropping, why not decrease the pensions? Of course, I understand that the contract says what it says and you must deliver what you promise, but can't they settle? The creditor obviously would prefer not to. But are they even trying? Have medical costs increased for the retirement age?

Dr.3D
08-05-2012, 11:20 AM
Well, by cutting services, they are effectively reducing overhead and also future obligations for new pensions in the future. There are so many services that are not really needed, it seems like it will all work out in the end.

Nickels
08-05-2012, 11:21 AM
Well, by cutting services, they are effectively reducing overhead and also future obligations for new pensions in the future. There are so many services that are not really needed, it seems like it will all work out in the end.

sounds about right. hopefully they're cutting the least necessary or most overpriced ones.

Travlyr
08-05-2012, 11:29 AM
What they are doing now is outright stealing. I just toured California and the police harassed me and ransacked my car. They stole $600 cash from me. The police are simply highway robbers anymore.

Dr.3D
08-05-2012, 11:30 AM
What they are doing now is outright stealing. I just toured California and the police harassed me and ransacked my car. They stole $600 cash from me. The police are simply highway robbers anymore.
So if they cut half or even more from the police services, it would cut down on the theft, right?

Nickels
08-05-2012, 11:32 AM
What they are doing now is outright stealing. I just toured California and the police harassed me and ransacked my car. They stole $600 cash from me. The police are simply highway robbers anymore.

what did they stop you for and what was $600? they asked you if you had cash on you? or was that a fine?

Nickels
08-05-2012, 11:32 AM
So if they cut half or even more from the police services, it would cut down on the theft, right?

good point

Travlyr
08-05-2012, 11:35 AM
So if they cut half or even more from the police services, it would cut down on the theft, right?

Don't know about that, but the police know that their victims can't retaliate. If a common thief without a uniform and badge steals someone's property, then they expect retaliation. But the police KNOW that if anyone retaliates against them, then they can beat, taze, or kill them without impunity. Challenge a common thief but don't dare challenge a pro.

Travlyr
08-05-2012, 11:37 AM
what did they stop you for and what was $600? they asked you if you had cash on you? or was that a fine?

They ransacked my car without asking. I was arrested for sleeping in my car.

RonRules
08-05-2012, 11:52 AM
In LA county there are people with over $1,000,000 pension saved up during the 5 year "double dipping" period. They retire at 50, and work for another 5 years, while earning a pension and getting another pension amount added to the bin.

Here's just a random article on the subject of pension double dipping:
http://www.publicsectorinc.com/forum/2012/04/california-pensioner-collects-six-figure-retirement----and-six-figure-salary----from-the-same-job.html

Nickels
08-05-2012, 11:52 AM
They ransacked my car without asking. I was arrested for sleeping in my car.

what city was this in?

Travlyr
08-05-2012, 11:53 AM
what city was this in?

Wine Country ...

San Luis Obispo

Nickels
08-05-2012, 11:56 AM
Wine Country ...

San Luis Obispo

WOW, well, thanks for the warning. Very sorry to hear.

Tod
08-05-2012, 01:26 PM
They ransacked my car without asking. I was arrested for sleeping in my car.


lol....sleeping in the car. I've done that a lot! Twice I've parked in a used car lot to sleep, hehehehe

Liberty74
08-05-2012, 02:29 PM
"We didn't have very many people looking out for the taxpayers when these deals were negotiated," San Jose Mayor Chuck Reed told Bloomberg News. In the past 10 years, his city increased retirement spending from $73 million to $245 million.

Well Duh! That is the point of being a libertarian. We know that the government NEVER EVER looks out for the taxpayers. The government only looks out for itself and protects itself.

Tudo
08-05-2012, 02:37 PM
Not all criminals are behind bars.