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lx43
08-01-2012, 11:20 AM
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390444226904577559414267708728.html?g rcc=grdt&mod=WSJ_hpp_sections_opinion


Our nation was born from the idea of "no taxation without representation"—that citizens should not be taxed by governments in which they have no political voice. Yet now lawmakers in Washington want to overturn that bedrock principle in order to extract more revenues from American consumers.


Such online sales tax proposals are taxation without representation. The proposed federal law tells businesses that there is no escape from the clutches of tax-hungry politicians. That concept is antithetical to our federalist system, which promotes competition among our states for the best economic policies.


The proposed law would hold online sellers to an entirely different standard. Websites would have to add taxes to a sale based on the shipping destination of the product, which may be a state in which neither the seller nor the buyer resides. We would never ask mom-and-pop store owners to do such a thing.

Politicians want this bill passed to raise new tax revenue for broken state governments facing budget shortfalls. But legislators in state capitals don't want to make the hard decisions to cut spending or raise taxes on their constituents—they fear the voter backlash. So they'd like their allies in Washington to make it legal for them to tax people who can't vote against them.


The burden on Internet entrepreneurs could be staggering. There are already nearly 10,000 state, local and municipal tax jurisdictions to navigate nationwide.


I hope they can defeat this bill in the House or Senate.

ZENemy
08-01-2012, 11:22 AM
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390444226904577559414267708728.html?g rcc=grdt&mod=WSJ_hpp_sections_opinion

I hope they can defeat this bill in the House or Senate.

Even if we do, it will just come back. The entire system is infected and until the entire system is changed we will be sitting here "defeating" the same bills over and over again.

AuH20
08-01-2012, 11:22 AM
I love DeMint. Too bad he is retiring. We better get Hunter to run or some quality liberty candidate.

erowe1
08-01-2012, 11:30 AM
I wonder what's behind the mindset that taxation is only not ok when it's without representation. Taxation is one bad thing. Democracy is another bad thing. When you put the two together, they don't cancel each other out, they're just doubly bad.

That said, good for Demint.

oyarde
08-01-2012, 11:35 AM
Plus Rep :) to Demint

NIU Students for Liberty
08-01-2012, 11:43 AM
And taxation with representation is still tyranny of the majority. If DeMint feels so passionately about online taxation, why couldn't he apply the same principles to health insurance?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCJxe7dp2rM

Keith and stuff
08-01-2012, 12:16 PM
I don't think Sen. Demint, Sen. Ayotte and their allies are strong enough to do this on their own. The problem is that most states have a board based state sales tax so the governments in those states want the additional taxes. We don't even know if all of the senators in AK, DE, MT, NH and OR will vote against such a tax when push comes to shove.

VoluntaryAmerican
08-01-2012, 12:39 PM
Just bought a $200 laptop online from Amazon. Free shipping.

Would of cost me $214 if this new law was in effect.

Get it while you can tax free people!

GeorgiaAvenger
08-01-2012, 07:19 PM
And taxation with representation is still tyranny of the majority. If DeMint feels so passionately about online taxation, why couldn't he apply the same principles to health insurance?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCJxe7dp2rM

Because he has evolved into a more hardline conservative over time.

GeorgiaAvenger
08-01-2012, 07:21 PM
I love DeMint. Too bad he is retiring. We better get Hunter to run or some quality liberty candidate.

DeMint is very helpful. I am fond of him as well.

Tom Davis, Lee Bright, Kevin Bryant...all RP state senators. Maybe more. I'd like to see Sanford primary Graham, as I think he could knock him off easily.

Sola_Fide
08-01-2012, 08:43 PM
How about just simply "no taxation"?

GeorgiaAvenger
08-02-2012, 07:11 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miSzgW_aMmk&feature=plcp