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mport1
07-28-2012, 10:05 AM
Drudge is covering this awesome story. I'd love to see more of this type of thing. A relatively cheap and easy way to attack the ideas of statism.


http://pixel.nymag.com/imgs/daily/intel/2012/07/28/28_ObamaBillboard.o.jpg/a_610x408.jpg
(thanks to Anti Federalist for posting the larger picture)
http://www.kboi2.com/news/local/billboard-James-Holmes-Idaho-President-Obama-kboi-164065466.html

Sola_Fide
07-28-2012, 10:31 AM
Cool.

specsaregood
07-28-2012, 10:42 AM
dang

robmpreston
07-28-2012, 11:19 AM
That's pretty awesome.

mport1
07-28-2012, 11:46 AM
I'd love to see an organization that goes around doing radical, eye catching things such as this. While many people will likely be offended, it will get some people to stop and think, and will certainly grab some headlines. It is a relatively low cost form of activism.

There is plenty of this kind of stuff on the internet, but I get the feeling a lot of "normal" people aren't exposed to these types of radical messages. I've seen a ton of great memes like this posted of Facebook over the past several months.

This story is already being covered in a number of more high profile places:
http://www.politico.com/blogs/charlie-mahtesian/2012/07/billboard-compares-aurora-shooter-obama-130365.html
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/07/27/12996261-idaho-billboard-compares-obama-to-colorado-theater-shooting-suspect?lite
http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Idaho-billboard-compares-Obama-shooting-suspect-3741931.php

Petar
07-28-2012, 11:52 AM
this is exactly the kind of thing that the grassroots needs to be funding..post Ron Paul that is...

mport1
07-28-2012, 11:58 AM
this is exactly the kind of thing that the grassroots needs to be funding..post Ron Paul that is...

Agreed. Personally I think we can spend our millions much more effectively than by trying to get a handful of somewhat pro-liberty people into congress.

I think spending money on the Presidential race for Ron Paul was highly effective, but I think it will do little to no good on congressional and senate races.

Petar
07-28-2012, 12:07 PM
Agreed. Personally I think we can spend our millions much more effectively than by trying to get a handful of somewhat pro-liberty people into congress.

I think spending money on the Presidential race for Ron Paul was highly effective, but I think it will do little to no good on congressional and senate races.

The beauty of this sort of thing is that it actually effects the media and the culture at large, which will allow us to grow the liberty movement.

More liberty supporters = more dollars/votes for liberty candidates.

I think that getting more liberty candidates into office is the ultimate goal.

LibertyEagle
07-28-2012, 12:18 PM
Agreed. Personally I think we can spend our millions much more effectively than by trying to get a handful of somewhat pro-liberty people into congress.

I think spending money on the Presidential race for Ron Paul was highly effective, but I think it will do little to no good on congressional and senate races.

There is no reason to make it an either/or. Perhaps those who don't believe in political activism can take this route. And those of us who do can continue to get liberty candidates in office. Or do both.

specsaregood
07-28-2012, 12:29 PM
There is no reason to make it an either/or. Perhaps those who don't believe in political activism can take this route. And those of us who do can continue to get liberty candidates in office. Or do both.

Indeed, and those doing the non political activism stuff if successful should make getting liberty candidates into office easier and less expensive.

BamaAla
07-28-2012, 12:32 PM
awesome

mport1
07-28-2012, 12:41 PM
There is no reason to make it an either/or. Perhaps those who don't believe in political activism can take this route. And those of us who do can continue to get liberty candidates in office. Or do both.

Both is fine with me. I support people doing whatever they feel is best and most effective. I think political activism can be very effective given the success of Ron Paul's campaigns. I also believe it is very worthwhile for something like the Free State Project where they are concentrating on taking over state politics.

However, I'd still like to convince people that the fastest path to liberty is to spend our resources more wisely outside of non-presidential political races. Ron Paul supports both as well and places a high importance on education. I believe we will see quicker progress by devoting time and resources to education as opposed to slowly trying to take over government positions. Additionally, I agree with Petar that growing the liberty movement through education will make it that much easier for liberty candidates to win.

I just don't think spending tons of time and money to get 5-10 more liberty leaning candidates into federal office has the same payoff as outside the system activism. I don't believe we have the time that is necessary for this strategy to work, and I also don't believe things will ever change for the long term if we don't change public opinion.

LibertyEagle
07-28-2012, 01:18 PM
“I have many friends in the libertarian movement who look down on those of us who get involved in political activity,” he acknowledged, but “eventually, if you want to bring about changes … what you have to do is participate in political action.” -- Ron Paul

http://www.amconmag.com/article/2008/sep/22/00019/

Anti Federalist
07-28-2012, 01:50 PM
That is epic and I would contribute good money to have more of these erected.

Anti Federalist
07-28-2012, 01:53 PM
A better picture of it.

http://pixel.nymag.com/imgs/daily/intel/2012/07/28/28_ObamaBillboard.o.jpg/a_610x408.jpg

Matt Collins
07-28-2012, 01:53 PM
http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/brass-balls2_5613.jpg

Matt Collins
07-28-2012, 01:54 PM
A better picture of it.

I love how the statism billboard has cameras on it LOLz :D

Lucille
07-28-2012, 02:09 PM
http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/116634.html


A billboard in Idaho compares the Batman shooter's 12 murders to Obama's many thousands. Good for the Ralph Smeed Foundation for putting it up. Ralph, God rest his soul, was a great libertarian, a dedicated Paulian, and a good friend to the Mises Institute and LRC.

youngbuck
07-28-2012, 02:16 PM
That's gotta be one of the best billboards I've ever seen. Way better than most "anti-Obama" billboards.

thoughtomator
07-28-2012, 02:27 PM
That billboard is very unfair... to Holmes. Obama actually personally goes through a list of people he wants dead, orders their murders, wantonly murders innocents in the process, and doesn't expose himself to a whit of danger while doing so.

jbauer
07-28-2012, 02:40 PM
How in the world did they get the billboard company to put it up. I'm frankly shocked that they found someone willing to put it on their board.

Great job!!

AGRP
07-28-2012, 02:41 PM
That's gotta be one of the best billboards I've ever seen. Way better than most "anti-Obama" billboards.


Thats why Im willing to bet it wont get nearly as much coverage as the "miss me yet" Bush billboards. This one is way too advanced to by covered by the Faux News audience. Whats not covered does not exist!

jbauer
07-28-2012, 02:42 PM
That billboard is very unfair... to Holmes. Obama actually personally goes through a list of people he wants dead, orders their murders, wantonly murders innocents in the process, and doesn't expose himself to a whit of danger while doing so.

Then they wonder why some look at paulites as crazys. Say it to yourself, don't put it on a public forum.

jbauer
07-28-2012, 02:43 PM
Also kinda irony that there are 2 security cameras on the board.

specsaregood
07-28-2012, 02:44 PM
How in the world did they get the billboard company to put it up. I'm frankly shocked that they found someone willing to put it on their board.
Great job!!

It says in the article that the group that put it up owns the board.

thoughtomator
07-28-2012, 02:46 PM
Then they wonder why some look at paulites as crazys. Say it to yourself, don't put it on a public forum.

Wait, you actually think what Holmes is alleged to have done is worse than what Obama admits to doing all the time?

I didn't even think that was a terribly controversial statement. On Obama's orders, there's virtually daily incidents that kill just as many (often more) innocents in senseless bloody massacres. Just because Obama gets better press doesn't make him any less of a psychotic serial mass murderer.

AGRP
07-28-2012, 02:49 PM
Then they wonder why some look at paulites as crazys. Say it to yourself, don't put it on a public forum.

Who is they? Red State? Faux News? MSNBC?

mport1
07-28-2012, 02:51 PM
Wait, you actually think what Holmes is alleged to have done is worse than what Obama admits to doing all the time?

I didn't even think that was a terribly controversial statement. On Obama's orders, there's virtually daily incidents that kill just as many (often more) innocents in senseless bloody massacres. Just because Obama gets better press doesn't make him any less of a psychotic serial mass murderer.

I don't think it should be controversial at all. They are both mass murderers. However, Obama's policies have killed or harmed hundreds of thousands more people than Holmes.

thoughtomator
07-28-2012, 03:15 PM
anyone want to make a rough guess how many innocents Obama has had murdered since Holmes was taken into custody?

truelies
07-28-2012, 03:56 PM
Then they wonder why some look at paulites as crazys. Say it to yourself, don't put it on a public forum.

so sayeth the neocon wolfie wannabe. Really folks he's just another sheeple.


BTW jack bauer was one of the most vile/evil boobtube characters ever devised. Even dexter the serial killer at least didn't glorify drawing a State paycheck for his murders.

Feeding the Abscess
07-28-2012, 04:15 PM
I see most posting here love the image.

Wonder how many of those same people would think the same thing if they knew that Adam Kokesh created this meme, or saw it when he originally posted it on his facebook page.

Beautiful job, Adam. Keep up the good work.

tangent4ronpaul
07-28-2012, 04:23 PM
I love how the statism billboard has cameras on it LOLz :D

You beat me to it, though my comment would have been "ironic".

Most of those poll cams are attached to license plate reading software and tracks people's locations. Very police state tech!

-t

iamse7en
07-28-2012, 04:26 PM
I'm sure Obama is seeing CIA psychiatrists as well and claims amnesia on the kill orders.

mport1
07-28-2012, 05:01 PM
I see most posting here love the image.

Wonder how many of those same people would think the same thing if they knew that Adam Kokesh created this meme, or saw it when he originally posted it on his facebook page.

Beautiful job, Adam. Keep up the good work.

He has some really good commentary on the incident.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dUazDPqiQM&feature=youtu.be

PierzStyx
07-28-2012, 07:56 PM
Then they wonder why some look at paulites as crazys. Say it to yourself, don't put it on a public forum.

I do not believe in the 1984 definition if insanity. It is not crazy to see the reality others deny.

Anti Federalist
07-28-2012, 09:41 PM
I see most posting here love the image.

Wonder how many of those same people would think the same thing if they knew that Adam Kokesh created this meme, or saw it when he originally posted it on his facebook page.

Beautiful job, Adam. Keep up the good work.

Doesn't bother me in the least.

Glad to hear it.

Good job Adam.

Anti Federalist
07-28-2012, 09:45 PM
WRT to the cameras...

I'm pretty sure they are pointing AT the billboard.

Since this is an electronic sign, I'm assuming they are there so the sign can be watched to confirm that the images and messages are correct and haven't been hacked or altered.

http://alt.coxnewsweb.com/shared-blogs/austin/austin/upload/2009/01/sign_hacker_broadcasts_zombie/zombie2.jpg

MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2
07-28-2012, 09:46 PM
I see most posting here love the image.

Wonder how many of those same people would think the same thing if they knew that Adam Kokesh created this meme, or saw it when he originally posted it on his facebook page.


People who feed on division and distraction.

Indy Vidual
07-28-2012, 09:53 PM
An effective way to spend money.

"Offensive." "Abhorrent." "Pathetic." Words like that are being used to describe a billboard in Caldwell, Idaho, that compares President Barack Obama...
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/07/27/12996261-idaho-billboard-compares-obama-to-colorado-theater-shooting-suspect?lite

AGRP
07-28-2012, 10:07 PM
Anyone else notice the critics haven't once mentioned or criticized Obama's wars? Its either the billboard or the families of the theater shooting.

mport1
07-28-2012, 10:16 PM
Anyone else notice the critics haven't once mentioned or criticized Obama's wars? Its either the billboard or the families of the theater shooting.

Yep, it is called cognitive dissonance.

Man, it is just so appalling that these people would point out Obama's participation in mass murder! How dare they!

Anti Federalist
07-28-2012, 10:28 PM
"Offensive." "Abhorrent." "Pathetic."

Yes, gunning down people in a theater and incinerating people by remote control is all those things.

Boobus' outraged yowling is music to my ears.

Hope it hurts ya cunts.

James Madison
07-28-2012, 11:55 PM
Posted on my facebook feed:

"This is disgusting. If you hate this country that much then maybe you should pack your bags and leave."
-Posted by an 'anti-war' liberal, Obama fan

"'Teabaggers' are closer to Mussolini than the Founders."
-Someone's reply to the OP. Under his political views, he calls himself a 'socialist'.

PaulConventionWV
07-29-2012, 08:20 AM
I don't think it should be controversial at all. They are both mass murderers. However, Obama's policies have killed or harmed hundreds of thousands more people than Holmes.

I argued a similar case in a college classroom and everyone jumped on me, saying "the number doesn't matter." O RLY? Did they matter when we dropped bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki? What do you think people would have said to the atom bomb ending the war if they only killed a couple thousand people?

F*CK YEAH! That's what they would have said.

PaulConventionWV
07-29-2012, 08:22 AM
I see most posting here love the image.

Wonder how many of those same people would think the same thing if they knew that Adam Kokesh created this meme, or saw it when he originally posted it on his facebook page.

Beautiful job, Adam. Keep up the good work.

Still love it and still think Adam Kokesh is a narcissistic detractor. I don't see any conflict in these two views. Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

phill4paul
07-29-2012, 08:34 AM
Good work Adam!

luctor-et-emergo
07-29-2012, 08:37 AM
An effective way to spend money.

"Offensive." "Abhorrent." "Pathetic." Words like that are being used to describe a billboard in Caldwell, Idaho, that compares President Barack Obama...
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/07/27/12996261-idaho-billboard-compares-obama-to-colorado-theater-shooting-suspect?lite

They are right about that, but for the wrong reasons...
I find it offensive, abhorrent and pathetic that innocent people get killed too.
But for some reason, I find it more offensive, abhorrent and frankly PATHETIC, that people object to REALITY.

WilliamShrugged
07-29-2012, 08:59 AM
I commute to Caldwell for work from Boise so i have seen and heard about this sign talking with people. Lots of Obama hate here so they like it, but many here aren't thinking about or admitting to their own love affair (blinded by propaganda) for war. Overall this State is kinda disappointing in regards to a liberty movement coming this way. Lots of Farm subsides, taxes (income, sales, and property), social conservatives (high Mormon population). I would say i have seen more Ron Paul signs in my time living in Nevada during and after the 08 election, than during this election where Paul's numbers overall have grown.