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Tiso0770
07-27-2012, 11:19 AM
This is a Real Warning from Australia....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8RDWltHxRc&feature=endscreen

Zippyjuan
07-27-2012, 11:36 AM
One look at the situation:
http://www.snopes.com/crime/statistics/ausguns.asp

devil21
07-27-2012, 01:08 PM
One look at the situation:
http://www.snopes.com/crime/statistics/ausguns.asp

Sure wish I could copy and paste out of that article. One key sentence in there is pertinent. Sure, not many Australians owned firearms prior to the gun ban. No one suggested they all owned guns. That's not even the point. The point is that the POSSIBILITY of any random Aussie owning a gun went way down after the ban was implemented and criminals understood that. Not all Americans own guns either but houses still get robbed even when there's millions of weapons in this country. How will home invaders react here if a gun ban took place? All of a sudden the odds of successfully robbing, assaulting, raping, etc without getting shot just got much, much better and therefore crime levels rise.

Btw, snopes.com politically oriented commentaries are usually left leaning. That article is a perfect example.

Indy Vidual
07-27-2012, 01:28 PM
This is a Real Warning from Australia....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8RDWltHxRc&feature=endscreen

We have been warned.

Weston White
07-27-2012, 01:46 PM
Gun wratcheting in Australia was brought about also by a "crazed" gunman commencing a shooting rampage in the public back in 1996: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_Arthur_massacre_%28Australia%29

truelies
07-27-2012, 02:20 PM
Folks as a direct precursor to the gun banning/confiscation there was a false flag op in Tasmania which murdered dozens of people. SEE Port Arthur Massacre.Ya think the recent attack in Aurora, Colorado has some questions- the Australia attack literally screams government false flag.

Bosco Warden
07-27-2012, 03:00 PM
Sure wish I could copy and paste out of that article. One key sentence in there is pertinent. Sure, not many Australians owned firearms prior to the gun ban. No one suggested they all owned guns. That's not even the point. The point is that the POSSIBILITY of any random Aussie owning a gun went way down after the ban was implemented and criminals understood that. Not all Americans own guns either but houses still get robbed even when there's millions of weapons in this country. How will home invaders react here if a gun ban took place? All of a sudden the odds of successfully robbing, assaulting, raping, etc without getting shot just got much, much better and therefore crime levels rise.

Btw, snopes.com politically oriented commentaries are usually left leaning. That article is a perfect example.

Zippyjuan is also left leaning which is why he will always be on the side of whatever support his socialist meme.

He may be posting here but he is not part of the liberty movement.

He wants to go into Mexico and bus in more illegals. The guy is a nutball.

Zippyjuan
07-27-2012, 03:28 PM
Thank you for your support! Got a bus I can borrow? What are you using to get them in?

What I have said in immigration is that most of what people have suggested on immigration either will impede the civil liberties of innocent civilians (such as ID checks) or will not reduce the problem (such as cutting benefits- which I would agree on) or adding more security (and tax dollars and government power) to the borders since they don't come for benefits or but jobs and about half enter the country legally and stay. Net immigration from Mexico last year was zero- the number coming was the same as the number going home and since the economic collapse in 2008 the estimated total number of those in the country illegally is down by over two million (to about 10 million). And speaking of that, it is actually tighter border security which is encourging more of those who come temporarily to stay. In the past, they would come, work a while, and then go home again and perhaps come back later. Now since it is harder to go back to their country and come back again, when they come they decide to stay instead.

devil21
07-27-2012, 05:12 PM
Australia is British Crown colony, ultimately ruled by the Queen. No different than Canada is. Where gun bans have already been implemented? The UK and Australia and there's calls for a similar ban in Canada underway as I type this.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/story/2012/07/18/toronto-scarborough-party-shooting.html?cmp=rss

http://www.guncite.com/journals/dkcgc.html

DamianTV
08-03-2012, 03:34 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=p8RDWltHxRc

Oh, look at that. Crime didnt just go up. It went up thru the roof!

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Unrelated to Video but Gun Bans in general.

One of the things we dont ever think about in the US is the risk of the country being Invaded. Tanks rolling across our own borders on to our soil. Troops marching into our towns and coming into our homes. What are we supposed to do then, call 911? Ha! We cant even call our own cops without putting ourselves at extreme risk of getting shot by the very people we are calling for help! The more and more we try to take away Guns from the Law Abiding Citizens does nothing but disarms our ability to protect ourselves from ALL enemies, both Foreign and Domestic. You arent supposed to shoot at the cops that kick in your front door in the middle of the night and wrongly accuse you of growing pot. But even with this extremism of our police, I kind of doubt they would say a whole hell of a lot if the ones kicking in your door were a Foreign Military. If they did ever bother to get off of their fat lazy donut eating asses and come out and protect you, they might even ask you for backup, or even Deputize you! Just so they dont get killed in the crossfire themselves! Of course that is the utmost extent of wishful thinking, that police actually helped the people, and I have no wish to see our country be invaded. But the weaker we make ourselves, the higher our crime rates will be, the more dependant on Govt we will become, and the closer to a Red Dawn scenario we will get.

Every publicized shooting that we've had in the last several years could have been easily avioded if the people used their right to bear arms. They could have shot back at that Joker clown. They could have shot back at Columbine. They could have shot back at each and every incident where multiple human lives were lost. And if the people that commited these publicized acts of atrocity had known damn well that half of the population they were planning on attacking were packing heat, they probably wouldnt have even tried. The MSM is now all about prevention, and trying to find more and more excuses why the govt should look harder into your history to find a reason to deny you your Rights, not just to Bear Arms, but to Privacy. Their idea of prevention has no bearing on the Real World. You want to know something about someone else that has a gun? Heres what you need to know. Everyone else has a gun too! And they will probably shoot the fuck out of you if you go apeshit and start shooting into crowds. How is that for Prevention? How is that for a Deterrant? We've enabled these psychopaths the ability to take as many lives as is within their physical limitations by instituting legal limitations on everyone else! Just fly under the radar long enough to pull of your plan and it will succeed. There is such little chance of someone shooting back that they probably dont even think of it as an issue! What do we want, to have a Militarized Police Dept require metal detectors, bomb screenings, and examination for Shoe Bombs in order to view a fucking movie? Tell ya what. Keep your shoes on and dont bother to walk thru the metal detector because you SHOULD be setting it off, which pretty much eliminates the need for the Metal Detectors altogether. Someone tries to kill you, you shoot first. Someone tries to kick in your front door to do horrible things to your dog, you should shoot fuckers like that too. Make it so that 911 is only for reporting Fire or Medical, and make the cops irrelevant.

Its not Vigilanteism to use your Right to Bear Arms to protect yourself. And anyone who thinks otherwise needs to be sent to jail for 24 hours and be stripped naked in a prison where the other inmates are flat out given baseball bats, shivs, and soap with razor blades. Lets see how quick those people turn into Gun Advocates.

emazur
08-03-2012, 05:59 PM
Sure wish I could copy and paste out of that article.

You can right click -> view page source
and copy/paste from there though it'll look a bit messy b/c of html tags

Carson
08-03-2012, 06:05 PM
What is going to happen if there government finds itself in trouble.

I imagine there will be a lot of spectators.


I don't think I'd feel comfortable going walk-about with out carrying some for of defense or method of sounding a warning. They have some freaky stuff crawling and hopping around.





One of the things we dont ever think about in the US is the risk of the country being Invaded. Tanks rolling across our own borders on to our soil. Troops marching into our towns and coming into our homes.


DamianTV,

Isn't that the way everyone pictures it? It looks to me like we were taken over without any overt signs. I think most don't even yet realize we no longer control our government, our military, or our borders. We lost it all when we allowed some to print up what ever amount of currency they wanted to dictate their will.

Nickels
08-03-2012, 06:25 PM
US & Australia are nothing alike, we both speak English, that's about it.

When it comes to immigration, population, population density, internet freedom, other government policies, there is no comparison, so to think none of these affect crime rates, is simply delusional.

Carson
08-03-2012, 06:54 PM
US & Australia are nothing alike, we both speak English, that's about it.

When it comes to immigration, population, population density, internet freedom, other government policies, there is no comparison, so to think none of these affect crime rates, is simply delusional.

The thing that is similar is the fact that both have a central bank system that allows, not only the government, but others outside of the country to print up what ever amount of fiat currency it takes to dictate their will.

Or...

No matter how much honest hard earned money the, "We the People" of the world can gather up to build their world the way they want others can fire up the fake money presses and get their way.

Tod
08-03-2012, 07:12 PM
One look at the situation:
http://www.snopes.com/crime/statistics/ausguns.asp


lol....I love this sentence: "but hardly in a proportion one would describe as "dramatic" and then they list a 12.8% increase in just one year. Anyone who would not consider that dramatic has an agenda that doesn't correspond to mine.