PDA

View Full Version : Obama "I didn't mean that" (hee,hee)




Origanalist
07-26-2012, 09:43 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Z0yK5NakN2o

brandon
07-26-2012, 09:51 AM
I'm honestly gonna side with Obama here. The right is totally taking his words out of context and Romney is flat out lying about it. Why can't Mitt run on his own merits and discuss real issues?

MJU1983
07-26-2012, 09:52 AM
PRESTIGE WORLDWIDE!

Origanalist
07-26-2012, 10:01 AM
Why can't Mitt run on his own merits and discuss real issues?

Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

What merits? The reason he can't discuss real issues is he has been firmly on both sides of most of them.

Weston White
07-26-2012, 10:13 AM
No he, Barry Soetoro (Mr. Obama), had clearly intended to state that the advancement of all business first and foremost holds an obligation to the government, for it was governmental programs and funding that built our Nation's roads, highways, bridges, freeways, Internet, etc., etc., etc. What Barry Soetoro clearly misses, and purposefully so I add, is that the government was only able to accomplish such feats through the profits obtained by successful businesses. Revenue through taxation does not just derive out of thin air. Barry Soetoro is marking a campaign of class-warfare, divide and concur. Barry Soetoro is utterly a traitorous fool.

brandon
07-26-2012, 10:27 AM
No that wasn't his point. His point was that we are more successful and prosperous when we work together. Empty platitude? Sure. But that's about it.

Acala
07-26-2012, 10:48 AM
I'm honestly gonna side with Obama here. The right is totally taking his words out of context and Romney is flat out lying about it. Why can't Mitt run on his own merits and discuss real issues?

What good is a puppet show if the puppets don't have anythig to fight about?

Weston White
07-26-2012, 11:05 AM
No that wasn't his point. His point was that we are more successful and prosperous when we work together. Empty platitude? Sure. But that's about it.

Sure, if by "working together" you mean just shut your mouth, while enjoying the simultaneous reduction of your capital and surrendering of your individual rights and clampdown of granted privileges.

Havax
07-26-2012, 11:09 AM
We're not all in this together. I built my business on my own without anyone's help. I don't want anyone's help, and I don't want the government sticking their nose in my business.

brandon
07-26-2012, 11:14 AM
We're not all in this together. I built my business on my own without anyone's help. I don't want anyone's help, and I don't want the government sticking their nose in my business.

Do you use any sort of computers of electronics in your business by any chance? If so, did you build them too?

Sam I am
07-26-2012, 11:17 AM
We're not all in this together. I built my business on my own without anyone's help. I don't want anyone's help, and I don't want the government sticking their nose in my business.

Your business must be sustenance farming, then. Because if it wasn't, I'd assume that you'd at least need some combination of customers, employees, external goods, and/or investment capital, to build it with.

torchbearer
07-26-2012, 11:19 AM
Do you use any sort of computers of electronics in your business by any chance? If so, did you build them too?

so, all obama was talking about was the specialization of labor in society that a currency enables?

Weston White
07-26-2012, 11:23 AM
What exactly does computers, technology, customers, employees, stock, capital, etc., have to do with governmental interference and regulation? Barry Soetoro's most recent flop-speech was really only intended to get businesses mentally prepared for impending tax increases and still yet further regulation.

cajuncocoa
07-26-2012, 11:54 AM
Do you use any sort of computers of electronics in your business by any chance? If so, did you build them too?Oh, please...you might get more traction from that line if you post it on DU.

specsaregood
07-26-2012, 12:31 PM
Do you use any sort of computers of electronics in your business by any chance? If so, did you build them too?

If he didn't build them, then I am sure he BOUGHT them. That isn't getting "help", that is still building his business on his own. now sure, if he built his business on donated goods then you might have an argument

Perry
07-26-2012, 01:14 PM
One of those times he wishes he could suck the words back into his mouth. Honestly I think this one's going down in history.

RabbitMan
07-26-2012, 01:18 PM
If he didn't build them, then I am sure he BOUGHT them. That isn't getting "help", that is still building his business on his own. now sure, if he built his business on donated goods then you might have an argument

I'm sure what he meant was that Big Government financed a lot of the breakthroughs in computer technology. Saying you built a successful business without any help whatsoever is kind of silly, you have to at least give some credit to the infrastructure that was provided, etc.. Not trying to sound socialist or anything, just trying to be realistic.

Nickels
07-26-2012, 01:21 PM
nice.

specsaregood
07-26-2012, 01:27 PM
I'm sure what he meant was that Big Government financed a lot of the breakthroughs in computer technology. Saying you built a successful business without any help whatsoever is kind of silly, you have to at least give some credit to the infrastructure that was provided, etc.. Not trying to sound socialist or anything, just trying to be realistic.

Last I checked, I pay for the infrastructure that I use. I don't get it for free. That is still me working for it.

Perhaps Obama has just been around corporatism for so long that he doesn't realize that there are plenty of businesses and people that don't make their living off government contracts, government handouts and funds stolen from the people.

Lucille
07-26-2012, 01:36 PM
http://lewrockwell.com/buchanan/buchanan254.html


From Jamestown in 1607 to Yorktown in 1781, there was no federal government. There was no United States. Yet generations of colonists had built forts, cleared lands, created farms, established workshops. Americans fed, clothed and housed themselves, creating one of the highest standards of living on earth for 3 million people.

How could the U.S. government have built the roads and bridges if the U.S. government did not exist before 1789? There were no public schools until the 19th century. Colleges were the creations of religious denominations. The Pell grant had not yet been invented.

Was government indispensable to Eli Whitney's invention of the cotton gin, Robert Fulton's invention of the steam boat, Alexander Graham Bell's invention of the telephone, Guglielmo Marconi's invention of the radio and Thomas Edison's invention of the light bulb, and just about everything else?

Did Wilbur and Orville Wright learn how to build bicycles in a CETA program? Were the feds responsible for the flight at Kitty Hawk?

Speaking of the Wright Brothers (http://hnn.us/blogs/entries/20730.html):


“We want to speak further of ‘The Wright Brothers,’ by Fred C. Kelly. Though it is not a great book, it has a great subject. . . . It is the American story, brought to a focus on one unique historical event.

“Now we’d like to inquire why, in view of such an achievement, Americans should be forced to listen to self-appointed apologists who go around begging the rest of the world to take everything we’ve got--the product of self-respecting and intelligent men like the Wrights--and please excuse this country for existing at all. Is there any sufficient reason why Americans should crawl in the mud and say: ‘Of course, we were all wrong; we must learn from other countries how to stand in line for rations and live by permission and thank you for being so good as to accept these inventions at our expense; and if we beg hard enough may we have just an interview to gaze at a dictator and take down his words through an interpreter? That is all we ask.’ That is where Americans have got to since forty years ago.

“There were two Americans who asked nothing of anybody; they could earn what they needed, and mind their own business; and out of their native genius they solved a scientific problem which gave mankind the mastery of the air.

“They had a shed for a workshop and a pasture field for an experiment station. We like particularly the episode of the selection of Huffman’s field. It was part of a farm owned by a Dayton banker. The Wrights asked the owner if they could rent it. Mr. Huffman said they could use it free; he only requested them incidentally to ‘drive his cows to a safe place and not run over them!’ We shall never know whether Mr. Huffman thought anything would come of the Wrights' experiments; but that was the American way, too--let them use the field, they wouldn't do any harm. Oh, no, no charge. It was private property, so there was no red tape. At about the same time another man, the head of an endowed institution, with $50,000 of government funds and $20,000 as a special gift, was trying to invent a flying machine; and he got nowhere with it. But the two who needed nothing whatever except their own brains, their own earnings and their own leisure time at their own disposal, performed the feat. That is what we are now urged to be ashamed of, to ignore, to repudiate and deny and destroy. That is the United States; that is the capitalist system.”

TonySutton
07-26-2012, 01:47 PM
Words matter and Obama picked his words precisely in order to play to the Occupy crowd. He is trying to invigorate the youth movement that is currently not too impressed with him. Unfortunately by including the millions of small business owners into this, many of who are the only employee and who put in +60 hour weeks to become successful, took exception to his statement and they are making him pay for it.

ronpaulfollower999
07-26-2012, 02:15 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5Gppi-O3a8

jbauer
07-26-2012, 02:16 PM
I can't beleive some of you are buying what Dumbo is saying here. Go back and put the transcripts. What he said is EXACTLY what he meant. You didn't build that!!

PaulConventionWV
07-26-2012, 02:26 PM
No he, Barry Soetoro (Mr. Obama), had clearly intended to state that the advancement of all business first and foremost holds an obligation to the government, for it was governmental programs and funding that built our Nation's roads, highways, bridges, freeways, Internet, etc., etc., etc. What Barry Soetoro clearly misses, and purposefully so I add, is that the government was only able to accomplish such feats through the profits obtained by successful businesses. Revenue through taxation does not just derive out of thin air. Barry Soetoro is marking a campaign of class-warfare, divide and concur. Barry Soetoro is utterly a traitorous fool.

"Divide and conquer."

The phrase you used essentially means "divide and agree with a formerly stated analysis."

PaulConventionWV
07-26-2012, 02:27 PM
No that wasn't his point. His point was that we are more successful and prosperous when we work together. Empty platitude? Sure. But that's about it.

Who knows what his point really was? I don't like it either way.

PaulConventionWV
07-26-2012, 02:28 PM
Do you use any sort of computers of electronics in your business by any chance? If so, did you build them too?

Perhaps he should say "some of us are in this together."

Uncle Emanuel Watkins
07-26-2012, 03:54 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Z0yK5NakN2o

"Hello America, how are you today? Don't I look and sound pretty? In regards to the The United States of America, it has never worked. That is why I've decided to implement a new Obama type of social communism to split this nation into tribes and to rename it The Balkanized Tribes of African America. Indeed, although they were the ones who first enslaved us, our African Ancestors did treat us far better than you evil white people. And, why shouldn't we throw the baby out with the bath water, or, to mix my metaphors, allow the lightning out of the bottle? Doesn't my voice sound sweet? Haven't I wrecked this nation to the extent that you are now totally desperate to believe anything I say to be true?
Behold as I now make your withered corn golden by showering it with my sweet spittle!"

"Cheers!"

Uncle Emanuel Watkins
07-26-2012, 04:06 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5Gppi-O3a8

One cannot rule a Democratic Republic of nation-states with Jewish parables from the old testament. It is time to end the Jubilee economy. There is no such thing as a federal or a global economy, but such far-flung operations have already been self evidently and unalienably declared tyrannies by our Founders.

Rudeman
07-26-2012, 04:36 PM
I can't beleive some of you are buying what Dumbo is saying here. Go back and put the transcripts. What he said is EXACTLY what he meant. You didn't build that!!

I agree, people say Obama's "You didn't build that" quote was taken out of context, but I actually think the full quote is even worse:


There are a lot of wealthy, successful Americans who agree with me -- because they want to give something back. They know they didn’t -- look, if you’ve been successful, you didn’t get there on your own. You didn’t get there on your own. I’m always struck by people who think, well, it must be because I was just so smart. There are a lot of smart people out there. It must be because I worked harder than everybody else. Let me tell you something -- there are a whole bunch of hardworking people out there. (Applause.)

If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a business -- you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen. The Internet didn’t get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet.

The point is, is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together. There are some things, just like fighting fires, we don’t do on our own. I mean, imagine if everybody had their own fire service. That would be a hard way to organize fighting fires.

A Son of Liberty
07-26-2012, 04:46 PM
We're not all in this together. I built my business on my own without anyone's help. I don't want anyone's help, and I don't want the government sticking their nose in my business.

Yep. And I wish you guys down in Montgomery County would quit voting in a bunch a enviro-nazis so we out here in Western Maryland could build our businesses. We're working our asses off out here, but apparently you folks down there (and I don't necessarily mean you) keep making us travel HOURS away to take advantage of a gold rush that should be taking place right under our feet.

Even as an anarchist, if I could see the day that Western Maryland seceded from the rest of this gawd-awful state, I would consider it an epic success.

economics102
07-26-2012, 04:55 PM
I agree, people say Obama's "You didn't build that" quote was taken out of context, but I actually think the full quote is even worse:

Exactly! The full quote is even worse than the snippet.

But that's the society we live in. What people say doesn't matter, only their ability to endlessly bicker in soundbites.

Step 1: Say something controversial that is too long to sound-bite. Say, 60+ seconds.

Step 2: Let your opponents quote portions of what you said in 30-second ads

Step 3: Put up your own ads claiming you were taken out of context.

Step 4: Your opponents cannot refute this because they can't air ads long enough to show that the full context of the quote has the same meaning.

truelies
07-26-2012, 05:00 PM
...................... Barry Soetoro is utterly a traitorous fool.

Traitorous but no fool. Don't make the mistake of underestimating an enemy. So far his team is ahead 99 - 0 with not much time left on the clock.

LibForestPaul
07-26-2012, 05:01 PM
Oh, please...you might get more traction from that line if you post it on DU.
Haha, indeed.