Gun Sales Surging in Wake of 'Dark Knight Rises' Shooting

[Kotin]

If this was an "inside job", it surely backfired.

Excerpt:



Dick Rutan, owner of Gunners Den in suburban Arvada, Colo., said requests for concealed-weapon training certification "are off the hook." His four-hour course in gun safety, required for certification for a concealed-weapons permit in Colorado, has drawn double the interest since Friday.


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[Anti Federalist]

Silver lining.

Good.

[BlackTerrel]

Are anti-gun people the only ones who can do inside jobs?

Maybe it was pro-gun politicians, the NRA, or the gun manufacturers who did this.

[Kylie]

Are anti-gun people the only ones who can do inside jobs?

Maybe it was pro-gun politicians, the NRA, or the gun manufacturers who did this.


Ah, good point.


But that would mean they're as evil as the people who want to take away the guns, no?

[specsaregood]

Are anti-gun people the only ones who can do inside jobs?
Maybe it was pro-gun politicians, the NRA, or the gun manufacturers who did this.

you just blew my mind.

[PierzStyx]

I think its connected more to the UN and US getting ready to clamp down on gun sales.

[Pericles]

I still have room for more rifles!

http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt317/Pericles-photo/rifles.jpg

[muzzled dogg]

picked something up friday nite

[roho76]

I'd like to see the increase in concealed carry.

[jbauer]

signed up for carry and conceal this week. bought a safe, shotgun and looking at hand guns.

[Bruno]

In Polk County, IA, handgun permit requests are up from 10/day average to 60/day in the past few days, as was reported this morning on local radio.

[PaulConventionWV]

How do you conceal carry a gun? All I usually wear is jeans and a t-shirt, so I don't see how I could very effectively hide a gun in there. Does open carry permit you to conceal your gun, too? I generally don't know how that works, but I am also looking at getting a handgun of some sort due to my new job as a property manager.

[Lucille]

How do you conceal carry a gun? All I usually wear is jeans and a t-shirt, so I don't see how I could very effectively hide a gun in there. Does open carry permit you to conceal your gun, too? I generally don't know how that works, but I am also looking at getting a handgun of some sort due to my new job as a property manager.

You know there's a rise in CC when clothing manufacturers (http://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ie=UTF-8#hl=en&sa=X&ei=da8RUPKTOoP28gTc5YDoBA&ved=0CFcQvwUoAQ&q=concealed+carry+clothes&spell=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=3d04e930a01db91d&biw=1366&bih=643) get in on it.

New Fashion Wrinkle: Stylishly Hiding the Gun
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/24/us/fashion-statement-is-clear-the-gun-isnt.html

[Anti Federalist]

How do you conceal carry a gun? All I usually wear is jeans and a t-shirt, so I don't see how I could very effectively hide a gun in there. Does open carry permit you to conceal your gun, too? I generally don't know how that works, but I am also looking at getting a handgun of some sort due to my new job as a property manager.

Not much bigger than a wallet.

Fits right in your pocket.

http://gunblast.com/images/SHOT2010/Day2/DSC09175.JPG

[PaulConventionWV]

Not much bigger than a wallet.

Fits right in your pocket.

http://gunblast.com/images/SHOT2010/Day2/DSC09175.JPG

How effective is it and do you know the cost? Do you own one?

[Lucille]

Paul, CC and OC are not the same. You're in WV, right?:

West Virginia Concealed Carry Permit Information (http://www.usacarry.com/west_virginia_concealed_carry_permit_information.h tml)

[Danke]

How effective is it and do you know the cost? Do you own one?

I have found I need to fairly close to have any accuracy with little guns like that one. They are convenient, guns slip it in your pocket. Ammo is smaller, but this can help: http://www.hinterlandoutfitters.com/corbon-powrball-ammunition-pb38070-powerball-1100-rdbx-p-824.html

But I'd prefer to carry a larger gun.



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[Danke]

Paul, CC and OC are not the same.

Yep. OC is a common law right.

[PaulConventionWV]

Paul, CC and OC are not the same. You're in WV, right?:

West Virginia Concealed Carry Permit Information (http://www.usacarry.com/west_virginia_concealed_carry_permit_information.h tml)

I know they're not the same. That's why I asked what the difference was.

[Anti Federalist]

How effective is it and do you know the cost? Do you own one?

More effective than throwing rocks, which is what you'll be doing when you need a firearm and your five pound .44 Magnum is in the gun safe at home.

Kidding aside, out to about 25 feet, with good quality ammo.

Depends on how good you want to get, a Lorcin or Kel Tec .380 is about $300 - $400, a Sig P232 or S and W like the one above are in the $500-$600 range.

I recently bought a Sig P230, used, that they do not make anymore, for $400.

I had one years ago and sold it, sadly, when I needed some cash, fast.

http://www.budspolicesupply.com/catalog/images/lg432.jpg

[Anti Federalist]

Ruger makes a decent pocket .380 as well.

A bargain at $300.

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/54585

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRtZWZ4bBK7QIhcGbku2P35WVvIYRG26 FwU1DLRhU0Y9RZRjPt0Hhtp6dQZtw

[Lucille]

How do you conceal carry a gun? All I usually wear is jeans and a t-shirt, so I don't see how I could very effectively hide a gun in there. Does open carry permit you to conceal your gun, too? I generally don't know how that works, but I am also looking at getting a handgun of some sort due to my new job as a property manager.


I know they're not the same. That's why I asked what the difference was.

To that in bold, no it does not.

[Danke]

More effective than throwing rocks, which is what you'll be doing when you need a firearm and your five pound .44 Magnum is in the gun safe at home.

Kidding aside, out to about 25 feet, with good quality ammo.

Depends on how good you want to get, a Lorcin or Kel Tec .380 is about $300 - $400, a Sig P232 or S and W like the one above are in the $500-$600 range.

I recently bought a Sig P230, used, that they do not make anymore, for $400.

I had one years ago and sold it, sadly, when I needed some cash, fast.

Also a nice one:

http://www.ruger.com/products/lcp/index.html?r=y

http://www.gunpundit.com/2008/ruger_lcp_380.jpg


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrE371hU8m4

[Kelly.]

Yep. OC is a common law right.

dont exercise those rights in denver county colorado. open carry is illegal.

[Kotin]

Ruger LCP is great.. For me though I would want a compact 1911 since I feel great about the .45 round.

[Danke]

dont exercise those rights in denver county colorado. open carry is illegal.

You are confusing common law with statues.

[Danke]

Ruger LCP is great.. For me though I would want a compact 1911 since I feel great about the .45 round.
Ya, I am not the best shot, but that is amplified with the small guns like the LCP.

[Philhelm]

How do you conceal carry a gun? All I usually wear is jeans and a t-shirt, so I don't see how I could very effectively hide a gun in there.

Um...that's private.

[Danke]

Um...that's private.

LOL. I know a guy who has it next to his private parts.

But you could give advice from links to other websites and not divulge that is necessarily where you carry.

[PaulConventionWV]

You are confusing common law with statues.

I would think it was pretty hard to confuse common law with statues... but whatever.

[PaulConventionWV]

LOL. I know a guy who has it next to his private parts.

But you could give advice from links to other websites and not divulge that is necessarily where you carry.

That just doesn't seem very comfortable.

[Danke]

I would think it was pretty hard to confuse common law with statues... but whatever.

It seems almost a daily occurrence here, so my guess it is even more prevalent in the populace at large.

[Anti Federalist]

Open Carry States.

From http://www.opencarry.org/index.html

Click on "Maps" for concise nationwide maps pertaining to just about every firearms question out there, from machine guns to restaurant carry.

http://www.opencarry.org/images/opencarrymap.png

[donnay]

I think integrated lasers are a great deterrence. :)


http://www.smith-wesson.com/wcsstore/SmWesson2/images/SW_CatList_Bodyguards38.jpg

[Danke]

Open Carry States.

From http://www.opencarry.org/index.html

Click on "Maps" for concise nationwide maps pertaining to just about every firearms question out there, from machine guns to restaurant carry.

http://www.opencarry.org/images/opencarrymap.png

Misleading. All open carry is lawful with out state permission.

[Lucille]

Danke sure keeps sailing away busy! I'd love to see what been edited out. I'm curious like that.

[youngbuck]

The Ruger LCP is a quality, reliable pistol, but I just can't get over the trigger pull. It's a very long, DAO (double action only) trigger pull that is fairly heavy (in pull weight). Couple that with its short sight radius, and it's only good for very close range, i.e. <4 yards, IMO. I've thought of getting one as a backup pistol to my Glock, but after seeing the new subcompact Springfield XD, I'm leaning towards it: http://www.springfield-armory.com/xd.php?version=60 :)

[Anti Federalist]

Misleading. All open carry is lawful with out state permission.

Agreed.

Your argument moves me to tears and is unassailable.

You are the most powerful speaker of your generation and a credit to our movement and to liberty as whole.

Now, if you would please, go and convince Officers Friendly of the constabularies of Boston, New York, Chicago and Washington, for starters.

[Anti Federalist]

The Ruger LCP is a quality, reliable pistol, but I just can't get over the trigger pull. It's a very long, DAO (double action only) trigger pull that is fairly heavy (in pull weight). Couple that with its short sight radius, and it's only good for very close range, i.e. <4 yards, IMO. I've thought of getting one as a backup pistol to my Glock, but after seeing the new subcompact Springfield XD, I'm leaning towards it: http://www.springfield-armory.com/xd.php?version=60 :)

That's why I like the Sig .380

DA or SA

[deadfish]

I see Hickok45 channel has already made an appearance on this thread.

Seriously, folks new to firearms and even those moderate familiar will learn so much watching the Hickok45 channel. Stop reading RPF for gun info and go watch the channel!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6APoh3xnGWs

[MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2]

LOL. I know a guy who has it next to his private parts.


I never could get into that idea. I mean... I think I'm fairly unlikely to shoot my pecker off, but being wrong about that has such horrible consequences.


PaulConventionWV: If you start carrying regularly, you will start dressing around it. I think it just happens that way. The people who carry in the front of their pants (like thunderwear) usually do so because they need infallible concealment, like they would be fired from employment, or something.

[muzzled dogg]

I got the ruger lcp that was mentioned in this thread

Re: the long trigger pull, you have to realize there is no safety on this gun. Plus it's not for use as a range toy; in a high adrenaline situation you don't want to accidentally pull the trigger

[Danke]

Agreed.

Your argument moves me to tears and is unassailable.

You are the most powerful speaker of your generation and a credit to our movement and to liberty as whole.

Now, if you would please, go and convince Officers Friendly of the constabularies of Boston, New York, Chicago and Washington, for starters.

They are not the ones to convince.

"Does this mean we're in the grip of despots and tyrants? Well, it certainly means we're letting ourselves and our neighbors be treated as though we are, and that's a distinction without much difference, if nothing is done about it...

Something CAN be done, though, because really, it's all just a mind-game. The treatment of Americans as subject to any "duty by decree" and punishable for the crime of "displeasing the State" relies entirely on general ignorance of the principles discussed here, and of the real nature of the kind of duties with which the State CAN be concerned.

So next time you hear someone call something "illegal", or someone a "criminal", step in and do some educating when the words are being used in ignorance. It matters a lot." -PH

[Anti Federalist]

Fair enough, good points.


They are not the ones to convince.

"Does this mean we're in the grip of despots and tyrants? Well, it certainly means we're letting ourselves and our neighbors be treated as though we are, and that's a distinction without much difference, if nothing is done about it...

Something CAN be done, though, because really, it's all just a mind-game. The treatment of Americans as subject to any "duty by decree" and punishable for the crime of "displeasing the State" relies entirely on general ignorance of the principles discussed here, and of the real nature of the kind of duties with which the State CAN be concerned.

So next time you hear someone call something "illegal", or someone a "criminal", step in and do some educating when the words are being used in ignorance. It matters a lot." -PH

[Anti Federalist]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=6JMF88ir6dc

[Tod]

While we are talking guns, I'm thinking of picking up my first shotgun one of these days. Would like to get something versatile (deer, turkey, & home defense), so expect to have more than one barrel.

autoload or pump?

suggestions for something reasonable at the low end of the price range? (<$500-$600 for basic gun, hopefully w/ an extra barrel included)

For turkey hunting, is camo pretty much the way to go (I know deer and robbers don't care)?

Since 12 ga seems to be hugely prevelant, I suppose that would give the most options; would prefer something that minimizes kick....

Thanks!

[Tod]

bumpity bump bump

Any suggestions for my above post?

[Sullivan*]

bumpity bump bump

Any suggestions for my above post?
Mossberg 590 can be had in 12ga, and is my first pick. If it's not the only long gun you will have to rely on, any pump shotgun in any configuration in 20ga will be easily handled by anyone in your household as long as they are allowed to get comfortable with the weapon (by comfortable I mean several range trips before it enters a HD role, at least a few hundred rounds, and continued practice at least every few weeks). As for loads, in 12ga you should probably look for #1 buckshot in a standard 2 3/4" load (anything smaller than #1 buck is a crapshoot, and anything bigger will easily penetrate walls not made out of concrete or brick and killing someone on the other side, out to probably 50 yards). 20ga is solely your responsibility to find what you are comfortable relying on.

[tangent4ronpaul]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=6JMF88ir6dc

Good video - thanks!

Rules of thumb:
The smaller the pistol, the lower the caliber or the less rounds it can carry.
The smaller the pistol, the more it will kick and the more time it will take to aim on target again.

I overheard some advice in a gun shop once - for a female or someone inexperienced where you just want point and shoot, get a revolver with an internal hammer and some speed loaders. The point being that the hammer won't catch on anything when being drawn and they won't have to worry about clearing jams.

Sewing a couple of quarters into a suit jacket or blazer will allow you to casually unbutton the jacket, then drop onto a battle crouch while twisting and bringing your hand under the cloth that is flying back to smoothly reach, draw and bring a pistol on target that was resting on your hip. It takes a bit of practive. The FBI, among others use this method.

CC - ankle holster, thunderwear, inside belt, pocket, belly band, shoulder holster - all are common, as are specialty made purses, luggage and waist packs. The following place makes some really good gear. Get on their e-mail list and wait if you see something you like as he has regular sales with DEEP discounts. I think he puts everything in his stock on sale at least once a year.

http://www.tommysgunpack.com/SearchResults.asp?Cat=1

I have a cousin that swears by Thunderwear, btw - wears it daily.

I've noticed as far as gun leather goes - you really get what you pay for. The stuff I've seen on the net, in gun shows and some gun shops and in magazines is total crap that won't hold up. Check out the stuff the cops use. There are usually one or two gun shops in every area that sell a lot to cops and carry it. It's EXPENSIVE!

-t

[Kelly.]

You are confusing common law with statues.

you are confusing common law with policy enforcement officers caring.
you will be hauled off to jail for open carrying in denver county.

i dont agree with it, but it is reality.
once you get someone to recognize common law rights in america, let me know.

[PaulConventionWV]

While we are talking guns, I'm thinking of picking up my first shotgun one of these days. Would like to get something versatile (deer, turkey, & home defense), so expect to have more than one barrel.

autoload or pump?

suggestions for something reasonable at the low end of the price range? (<$500-$600 for basic gun, hopefully w/ an extra barrel included)

For turkey hunting, is camo pretty much the way to go (I know deer and robbers don't care)?

Since 12 ga seems to be hugely prevelant, I suppose that would give the most options; would prefer something that minimizes kick....

Thanks!

I have two shotguns, one is a 12 gauge, the other a 16. The 16 looks much nicer, but the 12 has a stronger kick and is generally a more powerful weapon. They are both single-barrel, though. I would probably be willing to let go of one of them if anybody in my area wanted one (I don't know how far Ashland, OH is from here.)

[BlackTerrel]

Ah, good point.


But that would mean they're as evil as the people who want to take away the guns, no?

What does evil have to do with it? The argument of the "the batman shooting was a conspiracy" folk is that the real people who did this benefit from this event.

Well if the gun manufacturers benefit why isn't it plausible that the gun manufacturers did it?

No one here will suggest it because most of us are pro-gun but it's just as plausible. The conspiracy theorists only see conspiracies that fit their world view.