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CaptainAmerica
07-25-2012, 11:17 AM
'What?' Confused 911 caller outs NYPD spying in NJ


NEW BRUNSWICK, N.J. (AP) — It's an audiotape the New York Police Department hoped you would never hear.

A building superintendent at an apartment complex just off the Rutgers University campus called the New Brunswick Police 911 line in June 2009. He said his staff had been conducting a routine inspection and came across something suspicious.

"What's suspicious?" the dispatcher asked.

"Suspicious in the sense that the apartment has about — has no furniture except two beds, has no clothing, has New York City Police Department radios."

"Really?" the dispatcher asked, her voice rising with surprise.

The caller, Salil Sheth, had stumbled upon one of the NYPD's biggest secrets: a safe house, a place where undercover officers working well outside the department's jurisdiction could lie low and coordinate surveillance. Since the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks, the NYPD, with training and guidance from the CIA, has monitored the activities of Muslims in New York and far beyond. Detectives infiltrated mosques, eavesdropped in cafes and kept tabs on Muslim student groups, including at Rutgers.

The NYPD kept files on innocent sermons, recorded the names of political organizers in police documents and built databases of where Muslims lived and shopped, even where they were likely to gather to watch sports. Out-of-state operations, like the one in New Brunswick, were one aspect of this larger intelligence-gathering effort. The Associated Press previously described the discovery of the NYPD inside the New Jersey apartment, but police now have released the tape of the 911 call and other materials after a legal fight.

"There's computer hardware, software, you know, just laying around," the caller continued. "There's pictures of terrorists. There's pictures of our neighboring building that they have."

"In New Brunswick?" the dispatcher asked, sounding as confused as the caller.

The AP requested a copy of the 911 tape last year. Under pressure from the NYPD, the New Brunswick Police Department refused. After the AP sued, the city this week turned over the tape and emails that described the NYPD's efforts to keep the recording a secret.

The call sent New Brunswick police and the FBI rushing to the apartment complex. Officers and agents were surprised at what they found. None had been told that the NYPD was in town.

At the NYPD, the bungled operation was an embarrassment. It made the department look amateurish and forced it to ask the FBI to return the department's materials.

The emails highlight the sometimes convoluted arguments the NYPD has used to justify its out-of-state activities, which have been criticized by New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie and some members of Congress. The NYPD has infiltrated and photographed Muslim businesses and mosques in New Jersey, monitored the Internet postings of Muslim college students across the Northeast and traveled as far away as New Orleans to infiltrate and build files on liberal advocacy groups.

In February, NYPD's deputy commissioner for legal matters, Andrew Schaffer, told reporters that detectives can operate outside New York because they aren't conducting official police duties.

"They're not acting as police officers in other jurisdictions," Schaffer said.

In trying to keep the 911 tape under wraps, however, the NYPD made no mention of the fact that its officers were not acting as police. In fact, Lt. Cmdr. William McGroarty and Assistant Chief Thomas Galati argued that releasing the recording would jeopardize investigations and endanger the people and buildings.

Further, the apartment, No. 1076, was rented by an undercover NYPD officer using a fake name that he was still using, New Brunswick attorneys told the AP.

"Such identification will place the safety of any officers identified, as well as the undercover operatives with whom they work, at risk," Galati wrote in a letter to New Brunswick.

The city deleted that name from the copy of the tape that it released.

Reached by phone Tuesday, McGroarty declined to discuss the New Brunswick operation. But the recording offers a glimpse inside the safe house: a small apartment with two computers, dozens of black plastic boxes and no furniture or clothes except one suit.

"And pictures of our neighboring buildings?" the dispatcher asked.

"Yes, the Matrix building," Sheth replied, referring to a local developer. "There's pictures of terrorists. There's literature on the Muslim religion."

New York authorities have encouraged people like Sheth to call 911. In its "Eight Signs of Terrorism," people are encouraged to call the police if they see evidence of surveillance, information gathering, suspicious activities or anything that looks out of place.

New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg has defended the police department's right to go anywhere in the country in search of terrorists without telling local police. And New Jersey Attorney General Jeffrey Chiesa has said he's seen no evidence that the NYPD's efforts violated his state's laws.

Muslim groups, however, have sued to shut down the NYPD programs. Civil rights lawyers have asked a federal judge to decide whether the spying violates federal rules that were set up to prevent a repeat of NYPD abuses of the 1950s, when police Red Squads spied on student groups and activists in search of communists.

CIA were probably looking for more people to kidnap and expatriate.

phill4paul
07-25-2012, 12:30 PM
Something else that should have been bolded:


New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg has defended the police department's right to go anywhere in the country in search of terrorists without telling local police.

Romulus
07-25-2012, 12:45 PM
see something say something

angelatc
07-25-2012, 12:55 PM
That can't be. The CIA doesn't spy domestically! They only operate outside out borders!

Stupid lying liberal media. They should be tried for treason. And shot.

I'll bet they all smoke pot.

thoughtomator
07-25-2012, 12:59 PM
anyone else caught with that stuff would be arrested for plotting acts of terrorism

CaptainAmerica
07-25-2012, 01:05 PM
anyone else caught with that stuff would be arrested for plotting acts of terrorism Yeah its a bit creepy that police units were occupying a privately owned building and filling it with pictures of buildings and "terrorists" and other crap that would be considered premeditation of something.

youngbuck
07-25-2012, 03:07 PM
THEY are clearly the terrorists in this case. Just when I thought that NY law enforcement couldn't get any more shitty and corrupt, this comes to light.

New York authorities have encouraged people like Sheth to call 911. In its "Eight Signs of Terrorism," people are encouraged to call the police if they see evidence of surveillance, information gathering, suspicious activities or anything that looks out of place.

These pigs are the hidden, fomenting pockets of gangrene that'll bring this nation to its knees.

Kylie
07-25-2012, 03:56 PM
New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg has defended the police department's right to go anywhere in the country in search of terrorists without telling local police.



Ze minister of ze justice!


What a dickweed. Powerful, dangerous dickweed.

LibForestPaul
07-25-2012, 04:23 PM
Will the Mayor take responsibility when an operation goes south and NYPD officer is accidentally shot by Jersey City police?

LibertyEagle
07-25-2012, 04:31 PM
Muslim groups, however, have sued to shut down the NYPD programs. Civil rights lawyers have asked a federal judge to decide whether the spying violates federal rules that were set up to prevent a repeat of NYPD abuses of the 1950s, when police Red Squads spied on student groups and activists in search of communists.

So sorry, but Communists in those days were working under the guidance and with the funding of the USSR. Seeing how they frequently stated that their goal was to violently overthrow our form of government, I do think their colleagues in our country should have been investigated.

McCarthy was right.

The lefties have tried to rewrite history on this and for the young, it appears to have worked. But, then again, those who turned from Communism testified that the goal was to infiltrate the media, schools, churches and government. And unfortunately, they succeeded. And you wonder why our media sucks.

devil21
07-25-2012, 05:48 PM
'What?' Confused 911 caller outs NYPD spying in NJ

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CIA were probably looking for more people to kidnap and expatriate.

Or fresh patsies for the next "foiled" attack. Gotta do stuff like this to find the next underwear bomber....

Anti Federalist
07-25-2012, 05:59 PM
anyone else caught with that stuff would be arrested for plotting acts of terrorism

Anybody else making "straw" gun purchases would have too.

Or exporting rifles illegally to Mexico.

Don't get uppity, Mundane, it's for your own good.

CaptainAmerica
07-26-2012, 02:14 PM
So sorry, but Communists in those days were working under the guidance and with the funding of the USSR. Seeing how they frequently stated that their goal was to violently overthrow our form of government, I do think their colleagues in our country should have been investigated.

McCarthy was right.

The lefties have tried to rewrite history on this and for the young, it appears to have worked. But, then again, those who turned from Communism testified that the goal was to infiltrate the media, schools, churches and government. And unfortunately, they succeeded. And you wonder why our media sucks. It is ironic that by the tools created to fight communism our nation became similar to the USSR.

Nickels
07-26-2012, 02:16 PM
so basically what happened here was the police were too stupid to read the notices 2 weeks ago, and didn't check on their "safe house" and let the landlord right in?

Pericles
07-26-2012, 02:17 PM
See something, say something.

Nirvikalpa
07-26-2012, 02:21 PM
You guys should see the comments on the article posted by News12NJ on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/News12NJ/posts/180279692104015

Disgusting.

CaptainAmerica
07-26-2012, 02:32 PM
You guys should see the comments on the article posted by News12NJ on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/News12NJ/posts/180279692104015

Disgusting. I read those comments and saw where they began to get inflammatory with remarks about those 2 smart girls who told them why it was wrong to allow cops to have that illegal power.I have seen many other articles about the same exact story and the racism in the comments are unbelievable.People still think we are fighting muslims and anyone brown with a beard.

Nickels
07-26-2012, 02:34 PM
I read those comments and saw where they began to get inflammatory with remarks about those 2 smart girls who told them why it was wrong to allow cops to have that illegal power.I have seen many other articles about the same exact story and the racism in the comments are unbelievable.People still think we are fighting muslims and anyone brown with a beard.

it's not like Ron Paul denies al-Qaeda did 9/11.