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qh4dotcom
07-25-2012, 07:42 AM
Ok there goes the argument that the military supports anti-war candidates like Ron Paul...so much for the military wanting to come home.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2012/election_2012_presidential_election/july_2012/among_military_veterans_romney_59_obama_35


‎"Five percent (5%) of these voters like some other candidate in the race"

So only 5% like the anti-war candidates....

Philhelm
07-25-2012, 07:50 AM
Ok there goes the argument that the military supports anti-war candidates like Ron Paul...so much for the military wanting to come home.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2012/election_2012_presidential_election/july_2012/among_military_veterans_romney_59_obama_35

Keep in mind that veterans in general were being polled, not just active military or veterans of Iraq/Afghanistan.

Bruno
07-25-2012, 07:52 AM
That doesn't invalidate the argument. They are only provided the two lame choices, both with very similiar views on current and future wars, and for whatever reason see Romney as the better candidate for them.

muzzled dogg
07-25-2012, 07:54 AM
Because actitve troops like Obama just as much if not more

Pericles
07-25-2012, 07:56 AM
Ok there goes the argument that the military supports anti-war candidates like Ron Paul...so much for the military wanting to come home.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2012/election_2012_presidential_election/july_2012/among_military_veterans_romney_59_obama_35

No - we tend to support candidates who won't treat us like shit.

qh4dotcom
07-25-2012, 07:59 AM
That doesn't invalidate the argument. They are only provided the two lame choices, both with very similiar views on current and future wars, and for whatever reason see Romney as the better candidate for them.


Who says they are provided with only 2 lame choices? There will be other names on the ballot besides Romney and Obama....there will be anti-war candidates on the ballot

qh4dotcom
07-25-2012, 08:03 AM
That doesn't invalidate the argument. They are only provided the two lame choices, both with very similiar views on current and future wars, and for whatever reason see Romney as the better candidate for them.

Don't forget that there were many people here who made a big deal of Rand Paul supporting Romney, the last thing they were going to do was give Rand Paul a free pass on supporting Romney....you think the military veterans should be given a free pass on supporting Romney? At least Rand did not support Obama...but 35% of veterans are supporting Obama!

jbauer
07-25-2012, 08:09 AM
Is what it is, my guess is if they said neither their vote didn't go into either bucket.

Zippyjuan
07-25-2012, 11:20 AM
Veterans and those who support the military tend to be politically conservative so the poll is not surprising (Ron Paul is also a conservative). Republicans have in the past been more likely to favor spending lots more money on the military than Democrats so naturally they vote for who gives them that money and Democrats were generally more anti- war until Obama came along. Do a poll of environmentalists and they will give Obama the edge.

qh4dotcom
07-25-2012, 12:22 PM
Veterans and those who support the military tend to be politically conservative so the poll is not surprising (Ron Paul is also a conservative). Republicans have in the past been more likely to favor spending lots more money on the military than Democrats so naturally they vote for who gives them that money and Democrats were generally more anti- war until Obama came along. Do a poll of environmentalists and they will give Obama the edge.

Spensing lots of money on the military also means spending lots of money on wars...the country is bankrupt and can't afford all the military spending.

Zippyjuan
07-25-2012, 12:47 PM
I agree. IF you want to control the budget you also have to look at the social programs- Social Security/ Medicare/ Medicaid. But those are the "third rail" of politics- political death if you touch them. But if you leave them alone and cut 100% of every thing else in the budget you would only cut this year's deficit by half.

TheGrinch
07-25-2012, 12:54 PM
Meh, if Dr. paul were the likely nominee, you'd likely see even better numbers for him.

But in this partisan political climate where the media has pretty much called the race, it's very unsurprising that folks are voting the "lesser of two evils".


It's kind of like when they used to say that Paul didn't poll well in a 4-man race (even though he polled neck-and-neck with Obama) which reveals that even though he wasn't everyone's first choice (many of whom because they were told he had no chance and that they should rally behind Mitt), doesn't mean that those voters were necessarily in opposition to him....

In a world of partisan politics, it's not hard to say that republicans are more interested in beating Obama than they are supporters of Romney.

Brett85
07-25-2012, 01:30 PM
Ok there goes the argument that the military supports anti-war candidates like Ron Paul...so much for the military wanting to come home.

No, not really. They were given two choices between two candidates who are both horrible on foreign policy issues. They may just support Romney since he's better than Obama on domestic issues.

bolil
07-25-2012, 01:33 PM
Had a talk with a marine today. He was mad at Obama for bringing 40000 marines home.... because it meant they were going to lose their jobs. Interesting isn't it.

The Goat
07-25-2012, 01:53 PM
People who get paid by the government are going to vote for the candidate that gives them the most money. not hard to figure out.

welfare is warfare is welfare.

qh4dotcom
07-25-2012, 02:34 PM
No, not really. They were given two choices between two candidates who are both horrible on foreign policy issues. They may just support Romney since he's better than Obama on domestic issues.

Who says they have 2 choices? 5% chose another candidate.


‎"Five percent (5%) of these voters like some other candidate in the race"

fisharmor
07-25-2012, 02:38 PM
Huh... identical candidates and they choose the white guy.
I thought the military was supposed to have stamped that mentality out.

qh4dotcom
07-27-2012, 03:01 AM
I need to find another one like this for Romney...and believe it or not, the text of this image was created by a 10 year veteran.

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Barrex
07-27-2012, 04:12 AM
I am here just to say: I am glad that dickhead returned....much better than other one...

truelies
07-27-2012, 04:56 AM
Veterans and those who support the military tend to be politically conservative ..........................

No NOT conservative, but rather neo-conservative duped sheeple willing to shed American blood for an enemy nation which routinely murders Americans including Americans in uniform

Philosophy_of_Politics
07-27-2012, 06:04 AM
Veteran's are more likely to be Christian (Israeli Firsters), and Elderly. Which is why this poll reflected those results. Also, Obama has been targeting military personnel healthcare, which would also encourage more to vote against Obama.

qh4dotcom
08-08-2012, 11:17 AM
Veteran's are more likely to be Christian (Israeli Firsters), and Elderly. Which is why this poll reflected those results. Also, Obama has been targeting military personnel healthcare, which would also encourage more to vote against Obama.

According to that poll, 35% of the military still supports Obama....that's waaaaaaaaaaaaay too much considering he's a bigger war pig than Bush.

DamianTV
08-08-2012, 05:56 PM
Did you know...

That 50% of statistics are 80% bullshit?

BlackTerrel
08-08-2012, 07:13 PM
Of active military almost everyone I know supports Obama or is apolitical.

Danke
08-08-2012, 07:25 PM
According to that poll, 35% of the military still supports Obama....that's waaaaaaaaaaaaay too much considering he's a bigger war pig than Bush.

I'd say most officer's support Republicans. While many enlisted support Democrats. And the enlisted force is much larger.

cindy25
08-08-2012, 07:33 PM
most military are white southerners who vote GOP and minorities who vote for the Dem so no surprise.

oyarde
08-08-2012, 11:15 PM
Pretty much, I suspect this is easy, the Dem party is clearly all in socialist and or marxist to the bone, no turning back , this will be supported by the majority of US minorities , even those currently serving, out of up bringing and ignorance of facts. The rest of Veterans and etc , would clearly seek a path towards something else. The few who clearly understand it all , foreign policy , economics etc would be Paul supporters , those who do not ? , well Romney is going to look better with just his tax plan alone than G.W. , McCain , Gingrich , Cain , Obama , Biden , Axlerod all wrapped in one ...

devil21
08-08-2012, 11:49 PM
Two things:

Military vets being polled are very different than polling active military. Paul's support lead was from active military, not vets that veg in front of Fox News all day.

Rasmussen always polls Republicans higher than Democrats, regardless of the candidates or the issues. Their numbers should be looked at suspiciously (yes, even when they have favored RP in the past at times).

Keith and stuff
08-09-2012, 12:10 AM
Veteran's are more likely to be Christian (Israeli Firsters), and Elderly. Which is why this poll reflected those results. Also, Obama has been targeting military personnel healthcare, which would also encourage more to vote against Obama.

I don't know if veterans are more likely to be Christian or not. Maybe. Why would you think so?

oyarde
08-09-2012, 12:23 AM
I don't know if veterans are more likely to be Christian or not. Maybe. Why would you think so? Well , mathematically , If I had to guess , I would see that ... Vets , make 10 % of the population , as a whole , a large percentage ( of living , remember most WW 2 & Korean vets are now gone ) would come from the Midwest , the South etc, most from , at the time of enlistment & sevice from median income or slightly lower (on avg ) households . This would include , working class families , church goers , non Church goers , who were still raised by Church goers , people of some principles, values , much more likely to believe in God and have grown up with that than, say an avg collection ,of a liberal universty, type group of students ....