State Senator leaves race to join shadow government

[RPtotheWH]

Interesting article. Anyone ever heard of them?

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/07/16/iowa-republican-who-ended-state-house-run-joined-republic-defends-decisions/

Ron Paul mention at the end!

[anaconda]

Interesting article. Anyone ever heard of them?

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/07/16/iowa-republican-who-ended-state-house-run-joined-republic-defends-decisions/

Ron Paul mention at the end!

Nice. But what happened in 1871?

[Pauls' Revere]

Nice. But what happened in 1871?

I found this...
http://dev.republicoftheunitedstates.org/what-is-the-republic/history/

The United States exists in two forms: The original United States that was in operation until 1860; a collection of sovereign Republics in the union. Under the original Constitution the States controlled the Federal Government; the Federal Government did not control the States and had very little authority.



The original United States has been usurped by a separate and different UNITED STATES formed in 1871, which only controls the District of Columbia and it’s territories, and which is actually a corporation (the UNITED STATES CORPORATION) that acts as our current government. The United States Corporation operates under Corporate/Commercial/Public Law rather than Common/Private Law.

The original Constitution was never removed; it has simply been dormant since 1871. It is still intact to this day. This fact was made clear by Supreme Court Justice Marshall Harlan (Downes v. Bidwell, 182, U.S. 244 1901) by giving the following dissenting opinion: “Two national governments exist; one to be maintained under the Constitution, with all its restrictions; the other to be maintained by Congress outside and Independently of that Instrument.”

http://www.republicfortheunitedstates.org/

[Pauls' Revere]

I found this...
http://dev.republicoftheunitedstates.org/what-is-the-republic/history/

The United States exists in two forms: The original United States that was in operation until 1860; a collection of sovereign Republics in the union. Under the original Constitution the States controlled the Federal Government; the Federal Government did not control the States and had very little authority.



The original United States has been usurped by a separate and different UNITED STATES formed in 1871, which only controls the District of Columbia and it’s territories, and which is actually a corporation (the UNITED STATES CORPORATION) that acts as our current government. The United States Corporation operates under Corporate/Commercial/Public Law rather than Common/Private Law.

The original Constitution was never removed; it has simply been dormant since 1871. It is still intact to this day. This fact was made clear by Supreme Court Justice Marshall Harlan (Downes v. Bidwell, 182, U.S. 244 1901) by giving the following dissenting opinion: “Two national governments exist; one to be maintained under the Constitution, with all its restrictions; the other to be maintained by Congress outside and Independently of that Instrument.”

http://www.republicfortheunitedstates.org/

Though few may have ever heard of the Republic for the United States of America, the alternative government was revived by activists starting in 2010. Shannon said it now has representatives in all 50 states. However, it's unclear what changes Republic leaders can make since they have no seats of power in a formally recognized government.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/07/16/iowa-republican-who-ended-state-house-run-joined-republic-defends-decisions/#ixzz20r1S8nQL

[ronpaulfollower999]

I believe this is all a part of the sovereign citizens movement.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ME7K6P7hlko

Interesting stuff….whether all of it is true or not…I don't know.

[matt0611]

Maybe we should elect Ron to be the President of the real US government (the republic) ? :)

[Acala]

Interesting article. Anyone ever heard of them?

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/07/16/iowa-republican-who-ended-state-house-run-joined-republic-defends-decisions/

Ron Paul mention at the end!

great. Ron Paul being associated with crackpots again.

[hazek]

It's funny to watch this argument about who's political abstraction is the real one and the legitimate one when in fact all there is is just people and their freedom not realizing that if they themselves aren't willing to defend their freedom, no one is going to do it for them.


All it takes to be free is the decision to be free. Once you make that decision no one can take your freedom away from you, they may rob you, cage you or kill you but they can't take your freedom away.

[DEGuy]

It's an interesting time, especially with the Supreme Court ruling that basically let everyone know that the states can say "FU" to the federal government. With many states seriously looking at not funding the Medicaid expansion from Obamacare, it just might open a can of worms if everyone realizes most of the power in Washington is largely imaginary. Anything to decentralize power is a good thing, IMO.

[anaconda]

I found this...
http://dev.republicoftheunitedstates.org/what-is-the-republic/history/

The United States exists in two forms: The original United States that was in operation until 1860; a collection of sovereign Republics in the union. Under the original Constitution the States controlled the Federal Government; the Federal Government did not control the States and had very little authority.



The original United States has been usurped by a separate and different UNITED STATES formed in 1871, which only controls the District of Columbia and it’s territories, and which is actually a corporation (the UNITED STATES CORPORATION) that acts as our current government. The United States Corporation operates under Corporate/Commercial/Public Law rather than Common/Private Law.

The original Constitution was never removed; it has simply been dormant since 1871. It is still intact to this day. This fact was made clear by Supreme Court Justice Marshall Harlan (Downes v. Bidwell, 182, U.S. 244 1901) by giving the following dissenting opinion: “Two national governments exist; one to be maintained under the Constitution, with all its restrictions; the other to be maintained by Congress outside and Independently of that Instrument.”

http://www.republicfortheunitedstates.org/

Thank you for this. In that case, why does she say (4th paragraph of article) that the government was replaced "225 years ago?" 1871 was 141 years ago.

[donnay]

Iowa Republican defends ending run for state Senate, joining shadow government

By Joseph Weber

Published July 16, 2012

FoxNews.com (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/07/16/iowa-republican-who-ended-state-house-run-joined-republic-defends-decisions/)

An Iowa Republican has caused a stir after ending her run for state legislature, and then becoming a "senator" for a de facto shadow government known as the Republic for the United States of America.

The former candidate, Randi Shannon, defended the bizarre decision in an interview with FoxNews.com on Monday, and did her best to explain her reasons for doing so.

"I am one of many people so disgusted with the options out there," she said. "But the government we have has to go."

Organizers say the Republic for the United States of America was the original government in this country, before it was replaced 225 years ago by the "de facto corporation known as the United States."

Shannon told FoxNews.com the Republic is a bona-fide group, which appointed her to the temporary position of senator. She explained that the Republic was replaced in 1871 by a government given "carte blanche to fleece 'We the people.'"

Though few may have ever heard of the Republic for the United States of America, the alternative government was revived by activists starting in 2010. Shannon said it now has representatives in all 50 states. However, it's unclear what changes Republic leaders can make since they have no seats of power in a formally recognized government.

Shannon, a small-business owner, said she didn't want to disrespect voters with her decision. Though she announced the career change Friday in a letter to supporters, she said she decided to quit the race well before becoming a state and U.S. senator for the "Republic" -- the result of endless meetings inside the Iowa Capitol and on the campaign trail she says left her "frustrated" about the real possibility of fixing a broken government.

She cited the growing size of government -- particularly "ObamaCare" -- as one of the biggest and most recent intrusions by "big government" into the lives of her family members and other Americans.

"If they could just stop doing this, we'd all be fine," Shannon said. "All I want is a private life, but they won't let us do that."

Shannon, though, said she was surprised by the media attention -- particularly on liberal blogs -- to her decision.

"I didn't expect this firestorm," she told FoxNews.com. "I'm just a normal person who wants to raise her kids. I'm not a limelight person."

In her letter Friday, the Libertarian-minded Shannon thanked Ron Paul enthusiasts and other supporters for her state Senate run and vowed as a Republic senator to help eliminate the Education Department and put an end to undeclared wars.

[youngbuck]

There was a massive thread on the republic of the united States of America in Hot Topics. The thread starter and main proponent bailed the forums when all of his assertions and predictions failed to transpire. Even if true, which is probably is to at least some extent, it's just wishful thinking nowadays.

[anaconda]

Does this have anything to do with "private law" vs. "public law?" I saw this mind bending article a couple of years ago and this thread reminded me of it: :eek:


http://www.silverbearcafe.com/private/convincing.html

[musicmax]

Thank you for this. In that case, why does she say (4th paragraph of article) that the government was replaced "225 years ago?" 1871 was 141 years ago.

Hard to count and sniff glue at the same time...