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TNforPaul45
07-03-2012, 10:02 PM
When the Colonies declared themselves free from Great Britain, The King and his Agents offered several responses to the Unanimous Declaration. Read through these and see if they sound familiar to you. If a certain politically-aligned group of people TODAY declared themselves FREE from the overbearing Federal Government, do you think that Obama and his ilk would respond the same way? Comments after each:



Representatives of King George III: Howe Brothers:
http://chapin.williams.edu/graphics/British%20Reply2.jpg


"Although the Congress, whom the misguided Americans suffer to direct their Opposition to a re-establishment of the constitutional Government of these Provinces, have disavowed every Purpose of Reconciliation, not consonant with their extravagant and inadmissible Claim of Independency, the King's Commissioners think fit to declare, that they are equally desirous to confer with his Majesty's well-affected Subjects, upon the means of restoring the public Tranquility, and establishing a permanent Union with every Colony, as a Part of the British Empire.
The King, being most graciously disposed to direct a Revision of such of his royal Instructions, as may be construed to lay an improper Restraint upon the Freedom of Legislation, in any of his Colonies, and to concur in the Revisal of all Acts by which his Subjects there may think themselves aggrieved; it is recommended to the Inhabitants at large, to reflect seriously upon their present Condition and Expectations, and to judge for themselves, whether it be more consistent with their Honour and Happiness to offer up their Lives as a Sacrifice to the unjust and precarious Cause in which they are engaged, or to return to their Allegiance, accept the Blessings of Peace, and be secured in a free Enjoyment of their Liberty and Properties, upon the true Principles of the Constitution."




Except from King George III's response, in his speech to Parliament:
http://chapin.williams.edu/exhibits/His%20Majestys%20Speech.doc
(http://chapin.williams.edu/exhibits/His%20Majestys%20Speech.doc)
His Majesty’s Most Gracious Speech to Both Houses of Parliament
on Thursday, October 31, 1776

My Lords, and Gentlemen,

Nothing could have afforded Me so much Satisfaction as to have been able to inform you, at the Opening of this Session, that the Troubles, which have so long distracted My Colonies in North America, were at an End; and that My unhappy People, recovered from their Delusion, had delivered themselves from the Oppression of their Leaders, and returned to their Duty. But so daring and desperate is the Spirit of those Leaders, whose Object has always been Dominion and Power, that they have now openly renounced all Allegiance to the Crown,
and all political Connection with this Country. They have rejected, with Circumstances of Indignity and Insult, the Means of Conciliation held out to them under the Authority of Our Commission: and have presumed to set up their rebellious Confederacies for Independent States. If their Treason be suffered to take Root, much Mischief must grow from it, to the Safety of My loyal Colonies, to the Commerce
of My Kingdoms, and indeed to the present System of all Europe.
One great Advantage, however, will be derived from the Object of
the Rebels being openly avowed, and clearly understood. We shall have Unanimity at Home, founded in the general Conviction of the Justice and Necessity of Our Measures.

I am happy to Inform you, that, by the Blessing of Divine Providence on the good Conduct and Valour of My Officers and Forces by Sea and Land, and on the Zeal and Bravery of the Auxiliary Troops in
My Service, Canada is recovered; and although, from unavoidable Delays, the Operations at New York could not begin before the Month of August, the Success in that Province has been so important as to give the strongest Hopes of the most decisive good Consequences. But, notwithstanding this fair Prospect, We must, at all Events, prepare for another Campaign.


I continue to receive Assurances of Amity from the several Courts of Europe; and am using My utmost Endeavours to conciliate unhappy Differences between Two neighbouring Powers; and I still hope, that all Misunderstandings may be removed, and Europe continue to enjoy the inestimable Blessings of Peace. I think nevertheless that, in the present Situation of Affairs, it is expedient that We should be in a respectable State of Defence at Home.

Gentlemen of the House of Commons, I will order the Estimates for the ensuing Year to be laid before you. It is [a] Matter of real Concern to Me, that the important Considerations which I have stated to you must necessarily be followed by great Expence: I doubt not, however, but that My faithful Commons will readily and chearfully grant Me such Supplies, as the Maintenance of the Honour of my Crown, the Vindication of the just Rights of Parliament, and the Publick Welfare shall be found to require.

My Lords, and Gentlemen, in this arduous Contest I can have no other Object but to promote the true Interests of all My Subjects. No people ever enjoyed more Happiness, or lived under a milder Government, than those now revolted Provinces: the Improvements in every Art,
of which they boast, declare it: their Numbers, their Wealth, their Strength by Sea and Land, which they think sufficient to enable them to make Head against the whole Power of the Mother Country, are irrefragable Proofs of it. My Desire is to restore to them the Blessings of Law and Liberty, equally enjoyed by every British Subject, which they have fatally and desperately exchanged for all the Calamities of War, and the arbitrary Tyranny of their Chiefs.


Look at the last part in King George's response that I have bolded. The common argument by Federalists today is that "Well if the Government is so dang bad, then WHY has it produced so many good things in the US like Roads and Medicine and Cars and Planes?" Well, King George said the SAME thing about his Tyranny, in his justification of it. And notice how he mentions that it's better to be safe under him than at danger in freedom. Benjamin Franklin, anyone?

TN.

PierzStyx
07-04-2012, 03:42 AM
Very good find! +rep

Aratus
07-04-2012, 10:52 AM
George III had greatly articulated out the constitutional monarchy theories Queen Victoria was raised with.
I always contrast Edmund Burke's neat Conciliation speech with Patrick Henry's soaring oratory as i again think
over how both speeches were delivered on the same day some 2000 miles apart. things do not often change.

Mini-Me
07-04-2012, 12:44 PM
Wonderful post!

Anti Federalist
07-04-2012, 12:50 PM
Great find.

+rep


My Lords, and Gentlemen, in this arduous Contest I can have no other Object but to promote the true Interests of all My Subjects. No people ever enjoyed more Happiness, or lived under a milder Government, than those now revolted Provinces

In this regard he is actually quite right.

In many ways we live under a much harsher and authoritarian regime now, than anybody did in Boston or Philadelphia in 1770.

heavenlyboy34
07-04-2012, 01:04 PM
Great find.

+rep



In this regard he is actually quite right.

In many ways we live under a much harsher and authoritarian regime now, than anybody did in Boston or Philadelphia in 1770.
truth.

ETA: even the 1790 regime was harsher than the 1770 regime.

QuickZ06
07-04-2012, 01:07 PM
truth.
Ill second that.

And nice find OP!

LibForestPaul
07-04-2012, 01:13 PM
by which his Subjects there may think themselves aggrieved
America 2012, this quote is the most apropos.

Uncle Emanuel Watkins
07-04-2012, 01:15 PM
Very good find! +rep
And why do you think this was such a great find?

Pauls' Revere
07-04-2012, 02:04 PM
Great find.

+rep



In this regard he is actually quite right.

In many ways we live under a much harsher and authoritarian regime now, than anybody did in Boston or Philadelphia in 1770.

You too in this regard are quite right.

Uncle Emanuel Watkins
07-05-2012, 12:27 PM
You too in this regard are quite right.

It is the way the king was formalizing his terms in the higher case that distracted me. He seemed to have done so randomly in contempt of our Founding Fathers.
Our Founder's practice of highlighting terms in both The Declaration of Independence and the U.S Constitution originated from the reading of Plato's dialogues. The idea was to enhance the significance of some of the words over others. His mocking of the meaning ends up turning his words into nonsense.