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Murray N Rothbard
06-29-2012, 09:52 PM
One thing I have determined from arguments with Libs and Neocons is none will EVER change his/her mind during a debate, or even afterward. A better way is to give them a book and leave them alone hoping they give it a fair shake, digest it for a while, and maybe change their tune after actually thinking about things.

Thing is, a book for this purpose has to be very carefully written to avoid turning them off. It can't be too inflammatory but can't sugar coat things either.

One book that has shown promise is Mary Ruwart's "Healing Our World: In An Age of Aggression (http://www.amazon.com/Healing-Our-World-Age-Aggression/dp/0963233661)"

Any others?

Nothing by Ron Paul though. Unfortunately I think his name itself will cause people to read with a pre-determined opinion.

Bastiat's The Law
06-30-2012, 03:52 PM
Michael Scheuer helps neocons see the light. He has the right approach when dealing with these type of people. Scheuer educates you, while not sounding weak. In fact Scheuer sounds very tough with his speak softly but carry a big stick mentality. Neocons are a lot like scared housewives, they want to feel safe. Dealing with this psychologically is quite easy. First educate them as to what makes them unsafe with current foreign policy and allow that to sink in. Then you reassure them that you will defend this country by decimating..no anyone that messes with us. The military isn't meant to nation build, their job is to kill the enemy.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jixt6F_lGCg

BuddyRey
06-30-2012, 04:01 PM
Best book by far for converting liberals is "Healing Our World in an Age of Aggression" by Mary Ruwart. I think there's a free audio version floating around somewhere.

Bastiat's The Law
06-30-2012, 04:16 PM
Best book by far for converting liberals is "Healing Our World in an Age of Aggression" by Mary Ruwart. I think there's a free audio version floating around somewhere.
What about Tom Woods book he wrote with that guy one the left?

BuddyRey
06-30-2012, 04:25 PM
What about Tom Woods book he wrote with that guy one the left?

I've never read that one, but I do love me some Tom Woods.

Bastiat's The Law
07-01-2012, 07:37 PM
Here's the book and a discussion.

http://photo.goodreads.com/books/1328751356l/2246317.jpg


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8DnPUi3IWU

showpan
07-01-2012, 08:57 PM
You aren't going to convert a neocon with a book.....lol....you have to do what they do...invite them to go hunting and then shoot them in the face with your shotgun!!!

Ronulus
07-01-2012, 09:44 PM
If it's someone that's into politics give them The Law by Fredric Bastiat. It's short and makes very valid points. Comes from a french guy in the early 1800's who opposed socialism.

Bastiat's The Law
07-01-2012, 11:26 PM
You aren't going to convert a neocon with a book.....lol....you have to do what they do...invite them to go hunting and then shoot them in the face with your shotgun!!!
Neocons tend to respond well to videos of Scheuer.

heavenlyboy34
07-01-2012, 11:45 PM
Left-liberals like books better than neocons on average. I've pointed out voluminous free literature by and about Ron Paul to neocons who didn't understand him, but they refused to read it. Except books written by other neocons, of course. I once read one of Rush Limbaugh's books. I suspect that the appeal of these folks' work is that it's very simple in style, form, and vocabulary. When I was in college, I met a democrat back in '08 who was interested in RP's ideas that I persuaded him to change parties to vote RP in teh primary. /end ramble

libertyfanatic
07-04-2012, 08:55 PM
For a New Liberty by Murray Rothbard for those who are unsure of free market capitalism.

NoOneButPaul
07-04-2012, 09:12 PM
If it's someone that's into politics give them The Law by Fredric Bastiat. It's short and makes very valid points. Comes from a french guy in the early 1800's who opposed socialism.

Mid 1800s and my problem with recommending this book to liberals is he talks too much about God in it. He also spends most of the book critiquing other socialist writers writing instead of talking about liberty itself. I love The Law but i've come to think it's not the best book for new comers, especially because the writing style itself can be difficult to laymens.

I still think The Revolution is the best place to start for anyone and I think the fact it's Ron's book actually does help us. If you can read that entire book and not be converted in some fashion then you have no soul. It's current, it lays out our arguments wells, and it's less than 200 pages long.

John Liberty
09-12-2013, 11:58 AM
One thing I have determined from arguments with Libs and Neocons is none will EVER change his/her mind during a debate, or even afterward. A better way is to give them a book and leave them alone hoping they give it a fair shake, digest it for a while, and maybe change their tune after actually thinking about things.

Thing is, a book for this purpose has to be very carefully written to avoid turning them off. It can't be too inflammatory but can't sugar coat things either.

One book that has shown promise is Mary Ruwart's "Healing Our World: In An Age of Aggression (http://www.amazon.com/Healing-Our-World-Age-Aggression/dp/0963233661)"

Any others?

Nothing by Ron Paul though. Unfortunately I think his name itself will cause people to read with a pre-determined opinion.

I have never had any luck with converting Liberals and Neo-Cons with books. Videos, however, have proven to be a HUGE success factor for me. One of my best friends used to be a Mitt Romney Republican, but I showed him two videos last year that changed his mind and not only turned him into a Ron Paul fan but slowly turned him into a Libertarian. These two videos were showed in successive order(The Imagine Speech first to grab their attention, and then the primary video to outrage them and nullify any "he's not electable" mentality they might have leftover from the primary). These two videos also turned a hardcore Liberal into a constitution loving Libertarian. These two videos obviously didn't do the full conversion, but they grabbed their attention enough where they were willing to research the topic a bit more.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKfuS6gfxPY


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_WBo4sfmi4