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phyregold
06-28-2012, 09:28 AM
Ron Paul were you at? 1 page bill, repeal the taxation of the ACA, done.

sailingaway
06-28-2012, 09:33 AM
Ron Paul were you at? 1 page bill, repeal the taxation of the ACA, done.

Didn't Obamacare unconstitutionally start in the Senate, if it is a tax? Or am I thinking of a different bill?

jbauer
06-28-2012, 10:32 AM
Silly guys, the R's have been filibustering the hell out of the D's this past 2 years. You don't think the D's will do the same?

oyarde
06-28-2012, 10:39 AM
Yes , the house could and would have the votes , but you need a new Senate & President to get it through there.

erowe1
06-28-2012, 10:47 AM
Ron Paul were you at? 1 page bill, repeal the taxation of the ACA, done.

So continue to require insurance to cover preexisting conditions, but not have a mandate? That wouldn't work. They need to repeal the whole thing. And I sure hope that's what they do.

bighairycaveman
06-28-2012, 10:48 AM
You are absolutely right!!! check out the wiki page! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patient_Protection_and_Affordable_Care_Act

"PPACA passed the Senate on December 24, 2009, by a vote of 60–39 with all Democrats and two Independents voting for, and all but one Republican voting against.[10] It passed the House of Representatives on March 21, 2010, by a vote of 219–212, with 34 Democrats and all 178 Republicans voting against the bill.[11]"

Someone email Judge Nap!

bighairycaveman
06-28-2012, 10:52 AM
My previous post was a response to "sailingaway" saying "Didn't Obamacare unconstitutionally start in the Senate, if it is a tax? Or am I thinking of a different bill?" I may have not made that clear.

cindy25
06-28-2012, 11:07 AM
So continue to require insurance to cover preexisting conditions, but not have a mandate? That wouldn't work. They need to repeal the whole thing. And I sure hope that's what they do.

Romney the panderer just said to keep the pre-existing conditions coverage

erowe1
06-28-2012, 11:11 AM
Romney the panderer just said to keep the pre-existing conditions coverage

Really? He said that today?

UtahApocalypse
06-28-2012, 11:14 AM
You are absolutely right!!! check out the wiki page! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patient_Protection_and_Affordable_Care_Act

"PPACA passed the Senate on December 24, 2009, by a vote of 60–39 with all Democrats and two Independents voting for, and all but one Republican voting against.[10] It passed the House of Representatives on March 21, 2010, by a vote of 219–212, with 34 Democrats and all 178 Republicans voting against the bill.[11]"

Someone email Judge Nap!

This is the HUGE story the news will never discuss.

Zippyjuan
06-28-2012, 12:08 PM
No- looks like it started in the House. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patient_Protection_and_Affordable_Care_Act


Legislative history



Introduced in the House as the "Service Members Home Ownership Tax Act of 2009" (H.R. 3590) by Charles Rangel (D–NY) on September 17, 2009
Committee consideration by: Ways and Means
Passed the House on October 8, 2009 (416–0)
Passed the Senate as the "Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act" on December 24, 2009 (60–39) with amendment
House agreed to Senate amendment on March 21, 2010 (219–212)
Signed into law by President Barack Obama on March 23, 2010



It passed the House five months before it passed the Senate.

Hmm. Conflicting information on the page.

Ahh. Got it. Started in House. Passed there. Senate took it up and made changes- passed it. House then agreed with Senate amendments.