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green73
06-27-2012, 05:58 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0RzAF007LM&feature=player_embedded
http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/114433.html
http://www.economicpolicyjournal.com/2012/06/wow-if-you-need-lawyer-hire-this-guy.html

qh4dotcom
06-27-2012, 07:05 AM
Was this videotaped without the cop being aware he was being recorded?

ghengis86
06-27-2012, 07:15 AM
Was this videotaped without the cop being aware he was being recorded?

Depends on which state. In some states, only one party needs to be aware that the conversation is being recorded for it to be legal.

green73
06-27-2012, 07:15 AM
Was this videotaped without the cop being aware he was being recorded?

It's probably not illegal in that state. This guy probably would know.

coastie
06-27-2012, 07:30 AM
It's probably not illegal in that state. This guy probably would know.

Definitely illegal in my state(Floriduh).

O/T(somewhat), I wonder if you ask the cop if you're being recorded on a dash cam, and you don't tell him you're also recording, isn't that still consent to be recorded? Why does it matter how many cameras are doing the recording?

jkr
06-27-2012, 07:31 AM
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Feelgood
06-27-2012, 07:39 AM
Definitely illegal in my state(Floriduh).

Derp. No it isn't.

coastie
06-27-2012, 08:25 AM
Derp. No it isn't.

I see why that was your response, it makes sense now.:rolleyes:

Florida makes it a crime to intercept or record a "wire, oral, or electronic communication" in Florida, unless all parties to the communication consent. This includes LE officers. There are also state wire taping laws on the books, that the police will use against you. Unlike you - I researched this after my last post wondering if this was possible in Florida, and now it looks like not so much:

http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=0900-0999/0934/Sections/0934.03.html

There's plenty more than that, but I already did all this earlier, up to you now to look into it.


ETA: And if I am incorrect, you could have just posted a link to your information, instead of responding with "derp"...that was funny for what, like 10 seconds 10 years ago?

octojofo
06-27-2012, 08:36 AM
Was this videotaped without the cop being aware he was being recorded?

It would appear so, else it would be aimed with any kind of attempt at keeping the cop in the frame.

This could be legal depending on the state but it doesn't really matter since the "student" never reveals his identity and makes it nearly impossible for the cop to track him down for it! Ha! :)

Danke
06-27-2012, 08:48 AM
I see why that was your response, it makes sense now.:rolleyes:

Florida makes it a crime to intercept or record a "wire, oral, or electronic communication" in Florida, unless all parties to the communication consent. This includes LE officers. There are also state wire taping laws on the books, that the police will use against you. Unlike you - I researched this after my last post wondering if this was possible in Florida, and now it looks like not so much:

http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=0900-0999/0934/Sections/0934.03.html

There's plenty more than that, but I already did all this earlier, up to you now to look into it.


ETA: And if I am incorrect, you could have just posted a link to your information, instead of responding with "derp"...that was funny for what, like 10 seconds 10 years ago?

You can videotape without sound recording.

seraphson
06-27-2012, 08:53 AM
The comments section in interesting. Examples:


This guy is a total douchebag.


Because I want to live in an America where police don't question people carrying a gun. Seems to me like someone just studied their ass off for finals and wanted to put some of that knowledge to practical use.


Am I the only one who thinks this guy is acting like a arrogant asshole by flaunting his knowledge of law around?

Now, I used to be the guy that would say "What's the big deal". I don't believe I would be as arrogant and blurt out a "douchebag" comment but I wouldn't have understood the defense of this man. It's interesting to compare the past and the present and having "been there, done that, used to think that way" and see how incorrect and downright ignorant these comments are. Fortunately there's a good amount of encouraging comments too.

jbauer
06-27-2012, 09:24 AM
Hardly they were Giant Cojones

Good for him!!!


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Soca Taliban
06-27-2012, 10:12 AM
I wish more people were like this guy.

satchelmcqueen
06-27-2012, 04:32 PM
vid wont play

PaulConventionWV
06-27-2012, 04:39 PM
I see why that was your response, it makes sense now.:rolleyes:

Florida makes it a crime to intercept or record a "wire, oral, or electronic communication" in Florida, unless all parties to the communication consent. This includes LE officers. There are also state wire taping laws on the books, that the police will use against you. Unlike you - I researched this after my last post wondering if this was possible in Florida, and now it looks like not so much:

http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=0900-0999/0934/Sections/0934.03.html

There's plenty more than that, but I already did all this earlier, up to you now to look into it.


ETA: And if I am incorrect, you could have just posted a link to your information, instead of responding with "derp"...that was funny for what, like 10 seconds 10 years ago?

A little high-strung are we?

No Free Beer
06-27-2012, 04:43 PM
in mass, you can legally record a cop

PaulConventionWV
06-27-2012, 04:45 PM
It would appear so, else it would be aimed with any kind of attempt at keeping the cop in the frame.

This could be legal depending on the state but it doesn't really matter since the "student" never reveals his identity and makes it nearly impossible for the cop to track him down for it! Ha! :)

It matters. If it's illegal and the cop noticed, it would give him an excuse to arrest the guy on the spot.

Czolgosz
06-27-2012, 05:13 PM
OP's video has been removed.


Is it this one? -> http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshh9uupF06WWu97tcLT

tsai3904
06-27-2012, 05:20 PM
OP's video has been removed.

Is it this one? -> http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshh9uupF06WWu97tcLT

Yea.

The same one in this thread:
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?378979-Portland-Maine-citizen-hassled-by-Police-Officer-for-Open-Carry