Kerry Bentivolio - New Campaign Ad

[Darguth]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHsj6z5ToDM&feature=player_embedded

Please share and distribute as much as possible :)

Encourage anyone who likes it or is liberty-minded in general to donate to www.bentivolioforcongress.com as well to keep this ad on the air. We need to build name recognition to be sure we beat the write-in challenger in the primary.


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[mod edit] looks like the original version has been pulled but I think this video below is the same thing if not slightly different


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMnrCic2eJM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMnrCic2eJM


also another ad that has been released that is internet-only:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zjg1lHlH4xo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zjg1lHlH4xo

[FSP-Rebel]

decent

[Gage]

Would've been great if he'd gotten Rand and Thomas Massie's ad company, but this is still pretty good.

[EBounding]

Make sure to donate (http://www.bentivolioforcongress.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=103)if you can. It will apparently cost $2K a day to keep this ad on the air. It's best to do this now rather than later so the establishment won't have a chance to mischaracterize him with the voters.

[sailingaway]

Would've been great if he'd gotten Rand and Thomas Massie's ad company, but this is still pretty good.

I'm sure he couldn't afford them.

I'll put it on the front page.

[FSP-Rebel]

Make sure to donate (http://www.bentivolioforcongress.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=103)if you can. It will apparently cost $2K a day to keep this ad on the air.
Just out of curiosity, where is this airing?

[NoOneButPaul]

Really nice to see other videos on the front page that aren't related to the campaign for Pres.

We need to get some Kurt Bills up in here. Senate races should be treated the same as POTUS...

[GeorgiaAvenger]

Really nice to see other videos on the front page that aren't related to the campaign for Pres.

We need to get some Kurt Bills up in here. Senate races should be treated the same as POTUS...

With the Dem incumbent up big, I think we need to do an assessment on whether the race is winnable or not. An internal poll would be nice.

Edit-we really need PACs to get involved if we want to win. Lack of their spending makes me wonder whether they consider it winnable. http://www.opensecrets.org/races/summary.php?cycle=2012&id=MNS2

[LibertyEagle]

Whatever happened to that PAC that the young man started who inherited some money? I haven't heard anything from them in awhile.

[specsaregood]

Whatever happened to that PAC that the young man started who inherited some money? I haven't heard anything from them in awhile.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/news/ap/politics/2012/Jun/19/young_millionaire_s_pac_hires_ron_paul_staffers.ht ml
They hired some ron paul peeps:


The super PAC's executive director, Preston Bates, told The Associated Press on Tuesday that Chris Kuper has signed on as political director. Kuper had served as Paul's liaison for national coalitions. Bates said several other Paul aides also were added, including Jared Chicoine as senior adviser, Kate Schackai as press secretary, and Jordan Brown as senior researcher.

[GeorgiaAvenger]

Whatever happened to that PAC that the young man started who inherited some money? I haven't heard anything from them in awhile.

You can now nominate liberty candidates for funding, by July 31st.

http://pacliberty.com/2012races/

[Peace&Freedom]

With the Dem incumbent up big, I think we need to do an assessment on whether the race is winnable or not. An internal poll would be nice.

Edit-we really need PACs to get involved if we want to win. Lack of their spending makes me wonder whether they consider it winnable. http://www.opensecrets.org/races/summary.php?cycle=2012&id=MNS2

I thought the primary was for (through party error) an open seat, in a GOP leaning district. If that's not the case, it's not really winnable (in the eventual election). The ideal winning formula for liberty candidates, at minimum is 1) an open seat race, 2) run in the primary the district leans towards, 3) get a good candidate, and 4) raise the serious money (about $500k and up for Congress, $2 million and up for Senate) needed to win over the course of the campaign. If you doubt the numbers on point 4), go to opensecrets.org and check its data on congressional races over the last few cycles. There's no case where any candidate won the election, without raising at least $400,000 for the House seat, or $2 million for Senate.

[erowe1]

I thought the primary was for (through party error) an open seat, in a GOP leaning district. If that's not the case, it's not really winnable (in the eventual election). The ideal winning formula for liberty candidates, at minimum is 1) an open seat race, 2) run in the primary the district leans towards, 3) get a good candidate, and 4) raise the serious money (about $500k and up for Congress, $2 million and up for Senate) needed to win over the course of the campaign. If you doubt the numbers on point 4), go to opensecrets.org and check its data on congressional races over the last few cycles. There's no case where any candidate won the election, without raising at least $400,000 for the House seat, or $2 million for Senate.

I think GA was talking about Kurt Bills, not Kerry Bentivolio, in what you quoted.

[GeorgiaAvenger]

I thought the primary was for (through party error) an open seat, in a GOP leaning district. If that's not the case, it's not really winnable (in the eventual election). The ideal winning formula for liberty candidates, at minimum is 1) an open seat race, 2) run in the primary the district leans towards, 3) get a good candidate, and 4) raise the serious money (about $500k and up for Congress, $2 million and up for Senate) needed to win over the course of the campaign. If you doubt the numbers on point 4), go to opensecrets.org and check its data on congressional races over the last few cycles. There's no case where any candidate won the election, without raising at least $400,000 for the House seat, or $2 million for Senate.

I was talking about Kurt Bills.

[sailingaway]

I think GA was talking about Kurt Bills, not Kerry Bentivolio, in what you quoted.

the separate thing about Bills though is that the ONLY reason and basis for a primary challenge (the main people agreed to be bound by the MN GOP endorsement) is that he supports Ron Paul. His losing at the primary level will hurt our credibility there, imho. The ultimate election is a separate matter, but the edge the Dem has was measured against a neocon, not against Bills. RON did well there.

[trey4sports]

With the Dem incumbent up big, I think we need to do an assessment on whether the race is winnable or not. An internal poll would be nice.

Edit-we really need PACs to get involved if we want to win. Lack of their spending makes me wonder whether they consider it winnable. http://www.opensecrets.org/races/summary.php?cycle=2012&id=MNS2


the dem is not up big. Bills name ID is super low, hence the the polling. It will be a close race though.

[GeorgiaAvenger]

the dem is not up big. Bills name ID is super low, hence the the polling. It will be a close race though.Well, we already know that the Republicans support their nominee, so there is work to be done among the Independence party and the independent voters.

Hopefully Ramsey's superpac jumps in.

[Peace&Freedom]

Correction noted on the Bills race. The true test as to whether the incumbent Republican or "Democrat is up" over the liberty candidate is to look at the performance of the incumbent in the last election. If the district voting pattern is say 75% or more tilted to one major party, absent a sex scandal, the nominee from that party is going to win, period. That's why ONLY open seats should be contested, if we want a higher percentage chance of a liberty candidate winning.

[Bastiat's The Law]

Really nice to see other videos on the front page that aren't related to the campaign for Pres.

We need to get some Kurt Bills up in here. Senate races should be treated the same as POTUS...
Here, here! It's time to transition and get our troops into Congress!

[Bastiat's The Law]

With the Dem incumbent up big, I think we need to do an assessment on whether the race is winnable or not. An internal poll would be nice.

Edit-we really need PACs to get involved if we want to win. Lack of their spending makes me wonder whether they consider it winnable. http://www.opensecrets.org/races/summary.php?cycle=2012&id=MNS2
Another great idea. The liberals have their own polling outfit (PPP), we need a liberty polling outfit that reports accurate findings whether we're races are winnable or not.

[Bastiat's The Law]

I thought the primary was for (through party error) an open seat, in a GOP leaning district. If that's not the case, it's not really winnable (in the eventual election). The ideal winning formula for liberty candidates, at minimum is 1) an open seat race, 2) run in the primary the district leans towards, 3) get a good candidate, and 4) raise the serious money (about $500k and up for Congress, $2 million and up for Senate) needed to win over the course of the campaign. If you doubt the numbers on point 4), go to opensecrets.org and check its data on congressional races over the last few cycles. There's no case where any candidate won the election, without raising at least $400,000 for the House seat, or $2 million for Senate.
Thomas Massie's race cost about 800k. 400k will be just enough to be competitive, might need double that to get in the winners circle.

[trey4sports]

Thomas Massie's race cost about 800k. 400k will be just enough to be competitive, might need double that to get in the winners circle.

yeah, well it's different everywhere you go. you can't do diddly squat in NY with 500K. Then again in some rural around in the midwest you could have commercials running 24/7 with 500K.

[Michigan11]

Here, here! It's time to transition and get our troops into Congress!

Agreed!

We have Massie and Bentivolio who should both win, but Bentivolio does need to raise money still. It would be great to see more postings of news articles, polling data, and activity for all races going on, so we could all put our national movement behind to help out. The last thing the establishment republicans want, is for the Revolution to focus on individual races around the country, increasing our power in congress. They know they can't beat us, when we fundraise nationally, backed up by support locally.

[kathy88]

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/news/ap/politics/2012/Jun/19/young_millionaire_s_pac_hires_ron_paul_staffers.ht ml
They hired some ron paul peeps:

What, no Collins? And after he took that class and everything.

[Peace&Freedom]

Thomas Massie's race cost about 800k. 400k will be just enough to be competitive, might need double that to get in the winners circle.

Exactly, I just wanted to show what the minimum 'reality' numbers are for people thinking raising $100,000 or so was enough to seriously contest. And it's agreed those numbers need to go WAY up in order to contest in a bigger media market like NY, FL et al.

[DeMintConservative]

It might not be much exciting for some of you, but this is a very good ad vis a vis the production values. Focused on fiscal buzzwords, a pic of the man in uniform (I wrote some time ago they should put those in the site too) and a child with God and Family popping out.

On the other hand:

Across the country, in Michigan, former state Sen. Nancy Cassis (R), a write-in candidate, criticized her 11th district primary opponent, teacher Kerry Bentivolio, for “favoring the elimination of border controls.”
http://www.rollcall.com/issues/57_157/Arizona-Decision-Keeps-Issue-Alive-for-November-215670-1.html?pos=opolh

This is false, by the way. (Although Bentivolio said in some interview that he favors eliminating the Border Patrol and the CBP... better to just mention a wide reform of the Dep. of Homeland Security and a revamp of the federal border services). His campaign should hit Cassis for being desperate and spreading lies.

Is the Dem candidate - the Indian doctor, not the LaRouchie - holding any public meetings? If so, maybe one of you who lives in the district could go to one and make some questions to push him to the left, just in case. Like ask him a loaded question that makes him come in support of a single payer system - he probably supports it but isn't going to say it in his site. Or some sort of controversial statement.

[DeMintConservative]

As for Kurt Bills, he's DOA barring a live girl/dead boy situation. It's an opportunity to build some name recognition.

[sailingaway]

What, no Collins? And after he took that class and everything.

He was probably out of their price range after he won Minnesota for Ron.

[sailingaway]

As for Kurt Bills, he's DOA barring a live girl/dead boy situation. It's an opportunity to build some name recognition.

That is why they wanted it for the other guy Kurt beat at convention. But I think Kurt has a better chance because he could get some of the left if he is good on civil liberties. Didn't his opponent vote for NDAA or the Patriot Act or something? I thought I saw that somewhere.

[Pisces]

That is why they wanted it for the other guy Kurt beat at convention. But I think Kurt has a better chance because he could get some of the left if he is good on civil liberties. Didn't his opponent vote for NDAA or the Patriot Act or something? I thought I saw that somewhere.

His name is Pete Hegseth and as far as I know he's never held office so he didn't vote for NDAA or the Patriot Act. However, he was head of a group called "Vets for Freedom" that supports foreign intervention and just about every other neocon policy position so I'm sure he would vote for the NDAA, Patriot Act and even worse policies were he elected to the Senate.

I just looked up the group "Vets for Freedom" and saw that Joseph Lieberman and Lindsay Graham were at one time honorary board members. :eek:

[sailingaway]

His name is Pete Hegseth and as far as I know he's never held office so he didn't vote for NDAA or the Patriot Act. However, he was head of a group called "Vets for Freedom" that supports foreign intervention and just about every other neocon policy position so I'm sure he would vote for the NDAA, Patriot Act and even worse policies were he elected to the Senate.

I just looked up the group "Vets for Freedom" and saw that Joseph Lieberman and Lindsay Graham were at one time honorary board members. :eek:

No, I meant the Dem he'll be running against in the general assuming we help him to beat this new GOP guy who just opposes him because he likes Ron Paul.

[Sola_Fide]

He was probably out of their price range after he won Minnesota for Ron.

lol

[Bastiat's The Law]

yeah, well it's different everywhere you go. you can't do diddly squat in NY with 500K. Then again in some rural around in the midwest you could have commercials running 24/7 with 500K.
I hope we're smart enough to steer clear of democratic strongholds, which also tend to be extremely costly media markets.

[Bastiat's The Law]

His name is Pete Hegseth and as far as I know he's never held office so he didn't vote for NDAA or the Patriot Act. However, he was head of a group called "Vets for Freedom" that supports foreign intervention and just about every other neocon policy position so I'm sure he would vote for the NDAA, Patriot Act and even worse policies were he elected to the Senate.

I just looked up the group "Vets for Freedom" and saw that Joseph Lieberman and Lindsay Graham were at one time honorary board members. :eek:
I think he was talking about the democratic lady he'll be facing in the general, but great job beating back the neocon Hegseth.

[mstrmac1]

I sorry but if I didnt know any better.. This looks like any other "neo-Con" ad ... Horrible IMHO

[Sola_Fide]

I sorry but if I didnt know any better.. This looks like any other "neo-Con" ad ... Horrible IMHO


I didn't like it, but hey...we've been spoiled by Ron/Rand/Massie ads for a while now. Political ads are usually bad in my opinion.

[Peace&Freedom]

I hope we're smart enough to steer clear of democratic strongholds, which also tend to be extremely costly media markets.

We should be smart enough to run Ron Paul Democrats in Democratic strongholds, where an open seat emerges. In either case we'll have to raise serious bucks for the right candidate. We need to remember that there's not a dime's worth of difference between the leadership of the two major parties, so stop trying to directly 'takeover' either, just leverage the opportunities that come along in either a D or R district, and concentrate on getting the inside track by winning the primary of the majority party.

[specsaregood]

I hope we're smart enough to steer clear of democratic strongholds, which also tend to be extremely costly media markets.
you must have missed the schiff senate campaign.

[Bastiat's The Law]

We should be smart enough to run Ron Paul Democrats in Democratic strongholds, where an open seat emerges. In either case we'll have to raise serious bucks for the right candidate. We need to remember that there's not a dime's worth of difference between the leadership of the two major parties, so stop trying to directly 'takeover' either, just leverage the opportunities that come along in either a D or R district, and concentrate on getting the inside track by winning the primary of the majority party.
We should be strategically funding those seats that present the best opportunity of winning with the best candidate. We couldn't even fund a great candidate like Massie, who had the stars align to make for a winnable race (Open seat, Ultra republican district)...Hell if it wasn't for that Super PAC pouring in 500k the race might have been much closer or possibly a loss for the liberty movement and "Our military is a global security force" (Alecia Webb Edgington) would've won it for the neocons. We need to be smarter in the future and not throw finite funds around willy-nilly to candidates running against incumbents in secure districts who will clobber them in the general.

[Bastiat's The Law]

you must have missed the schiff senate campaign.
What numbers did Schiff do? He's a virtual unknown outside Paul supporters and financial network geeks. He's also an in-your-face kind of dude, you either love Peter or hate him, not much middle ground.

[specsaregood]

What numbers did Schiff do? He's a virtual unknown outside Paul supporters and financial network geeks. He's also an in-your-face kind of dude, you either love Peter or hate him, not much middle ground.

none of that is relevant to my response. you said:

I hope we're smart enough to steer clear of democratic strongholds, which also tend to be extremely costly media markets.
Connecticut is both of those, yet many supported schiff's losing run there.

[Michigan11]

I didn't like it, but hey...we've been spoiled by Ron/Rand/Massie ads for a while now. Political ads are usually bad in my opinion.

Haha, it's perfect for the district he is running in, and from what ads I remember seeing living in that district, the voters will eat this up! LMAO

[FSP-Rebel]

Haha, it's perfect for the district he is running in, and from what ads I remember seeing living in that district, the voters will eat this up! LMAO
http://i45.tinypic.com/2csi4o5.jpg

[sailingaway]

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[EBounding]

Here's a better ad. It's web only though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8TPYUReSys&feature=youtu.be

[Rocco]

I'm not sure I'm in favor of using Cassiss's name in the ad, negative or not. It only brings more name recognition to her and her insignificant write in campaign.


Here's a better ad. It's web only though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8TPYUReSys&feature=youtu.be

[sailingaway]

I'll put it on the front page in a bit, I want to give the Fed audit passing the House committee some more airtime at the top of the page....

[sailingaway]

I'm not sure I'm in favor of using Cassiss's name in the ad, negative or not. It only brings more name recognition to her and her insignificant write in campaign.

yeah, I have to agree with that. They should just say 'my opponent'.

[ClydeCoulter]

Here's a better ad. It's web only though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8TPYUReSys&feature=youtu.be

That's just frickin' wierd, shaking hands but looking at the camera, it's like when you see two people walking side by side with a cell phone to their ears...just frickin' wierd looking.

[EBounding]

I'm not sure I'm in favor of using Cassiss's name in the ad, negative or not. It only brings more name recognition to her and her insignificant write in campaign.

Yeah, I thought the same thing. He really should just refer to her as the "establishment write-in". The photoshop handshake is weird.

[DeMintConservative]

That is why they wanted it for the other guy Kurt beat at convention. But I think Kurt has a better chance because he could get some of the left if he is good on civil liberties. Didn't his opponent vote for NDAA or the Patriot Act or something? I thought I saw that somewhere.

Yeah, she voted for the NDAA. Can't recall how she voted on the Patriot Act extension, but most probably. She was also one of the strongest sponsors of the SOPA/PIPA bill, if Bills pretends to harm her on the so-called "civil rights".

Klobuchar is a reflexive democrat who will almost always vote party line. But she keeps her head down and has good constituency services, so Minnesotans like her.

[DeMintConservative]

I'm not sure I'm in favor of using Cassiss's name in the ad, negative or not. It only brings more name recognition to her and her insignificant write in campaign.

It's an internet add. Only high-information voters will see it. No problem.

[Cowlesy]

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[jct74]

looks like the original version has been pulled but I think this video below is the same thing if not slightly different


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMnrCic2eJM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMnrCic2eJM


the web ad was also pulled but I think this is also the replacement


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zjg1lHlH4xo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zjg1lHlH4xo

[sailingaway]

The hat is a better look for him, imho.

[angelatc]

The hat is a better look for him, imho.

Agree 1000%.

[angelatc]

Well, we already know that the Republicans support their nominee, so there is work to be done among the Independence party and the independent voters.

Hopefully Ramsey's superpac jumps in.

I disagree with that first statement. I saw the Romney campaign making the same assumption, and I think it could be an error. Yes, the Republicans who vote in every single school board election will support their candidate. But the Republicans who didn't vote in the primary and tend to only show up in presidential years (if they show up at all) aren't necessarily enthused about making the time to go vote for Romney. If the GOP doesn't make it important to GOTV, the Republicans might not show up at all.

[specsaregood]

I disagree with that first statement. I saw the Romney campaign making the same assumption, and I think it could be an error. Yes, the Republicans who vote in every single school board election will support their candidate. But the Republicans who didn't vote in the primary and tend to only show up in presidential years (if they show up at all) aren't necessarily enthused about making the time to go vote for Romney. If the GOP doesn't make it important to GOTV, the Republicans might not show up at all.

Which is why I've been suggesting that if Romney really wants to win, one way would be to jump on board and really support OUR candidates.