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Zatch
06-20-2012, 07:11 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykwaXsQY6Eg


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uh7l8dx-h8M



article:
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/06/20/top-dea-agent-wont-admit-heroin-more-harmful-than-marijuana/

jkr
06-20-2012, 07:20 PM
http://www.atomiclemon.co.uk/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/drug-chart.gif

farreri
06-20-2012, 07:26 PM
Ahhahahahahahahaha!!! I almost feel bad for her for how bad she got pwned by Rep. Jared Polis (D). :p

She's like a deer caught in headlights. "Ah, ah, I think all illegal drugs are bad."

Bruno
06-20-2012, 07:49 PM
http://www.atomiclemon.co.uk/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/drug-chart.gif

Khat is less addictive and causes less harm than cannabis? Not buying it.

Zatch
06-20-2012, 07:59 PM
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mczerone
06-20-2012, 08:02 PM
Khat is less addictive and causes less harm than cannabis? Not buying it.

Yeah, and I doubt that "natural" cocaine is more harmful or has more dependence than alcohol or steroids.

It's a pretty nice graph, but I doubt the data is that reliable.

MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2
06-20-2012, 08:02 PM
Khat is less addictive and causes less harm than cannabis? Not buying it.

Who made the chart?

Also, solvents? Wtf are solvents? I mean... I know the term, but it's an awful broad term as I understand it. Not to mention, method of administration should be taken into account for several of those things on the chart. Where did it come from? I do find it interesting.

Lucille
06-20-2012, 08:10 PM
That woman is a despicable liar and tyrant. I know it's not Christian of me, but I wish her and the rest of the drug warriors who cause so much pain and suffering the same x 100.

DerailingDaTrain
06-20-2012, 08:11 PM
Who made the chart?

Also, solvents? Wtf are solvents? I mean... I know the term, but it's an awful broad term as I understand it. Not to mention, method of administration should be taken into account for several of those things on the chart. Where did it come from? I do find it interesting.

Gasoline, glue, rubber cement, lighter fluid, all types of cleaning stuff, things like that.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FffzU7F6Lc

brandon
06-20-2012, 08:17 PM
Totally freaking unbelievable.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/06/20/top-dea-agent-wont-admit-heroin-more-harmful-than-marijuana/

brandon
06-20-2012, 08:21 PM
This congressman is pretty freaking cool...after reading his wiki page I found out he is the first openly gay man elected to congress, and he plays League of Legends.

QuickZ06
06-20-2012, 08:33 PM
http://www.atomiclemon.co.uk/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/drug-chart.gif

Stupid chart is stupid.

NoOneButPaul
06-20-2012, 08:42 PM
Hahahahahaha woowowow.... amazing...

He simply destroyed her in a perfect way.

DerailingDaTrain
06-20-2012, 08:51 PM
How did this woman get her job?

In 2011, the Washington Post reported that "994 people younger than 18 were killed in drug-related violence between late 2006 and late 2010" and that "[i]n 2009, the last year for which there is data, 1,180 children were killed, half in shootings." In response to these statistics, Leonhart declared that while it "may seem contradictory, the unfortunate level of violence is a sign of success in the fight against drugs.”

She also once said that her cousin died from smoking cannabis

Bruno
06-20-2012, 09:03 PM
How did this woman get her job?

In 2011, the Washington Post reported that "994 people younger than 18 were killed in drug-related violence between late 2006 and late 2010" and that "[i]n 2009, the last year for which there is data, 1,180 children were killed, half in shootings." In response to these statistics, Leonhart declared that while it "may seem contradictory, the unfortunate level of violence is a sign of success in the fight against drugs.”

She also once said that her cousin died from smoking cannabis

She said one of her cousins died from smoking cannabis?!? That would make him the first cannabis death in world histoy and one for the record books.

Or, she is a blatant liar who doesn't even realize how ridiculous her lie is.

Notice how she catches herself saying "all drugs, er, all illegal drugs are bad". :rolleyes:

ghengis86
06-20-2012, 09:12 PM
Can anyone please show me one person who has overdosed on THC? I'm not talking violence related to smoking MJ, but straight up, "He took the biggest hit I've ever seen, passed out and died b/c his heart stopped from too much THC."

Seriously, WTF?!??!! This shit is maddening!!!

Unless that bitch can cite some sources, she needs to STFU and GTFO

farreri
06-20-2012, 09:17 PM
I wish the Congressman would have asked her how does the DEA explain their position that marijuana has "no medical benefits," but yet the FDA approved Marinol decades ago?

MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2
06-20-2012, 09:24 PM
Gasoline, glue, rubber cement, lighter fluid, all types of cleaning stuff, things like that.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FffzU7F6Lc


So, do solvents turn you into Elvis? Or will winning an Elvis look-a-like contest turn you toward solvents?

Seems solvents should be higher up on the physical harm axis, but that's just a guess on my part. If they just make you Elvis, I suppose it depends on where you live.

kuckfeynes
06-20-2012, 09:50 PM
Define dependence and define physical harm and that chart might make more sense.

Without that it's just a picture of birdshot.

Bruno
06-20-2012, 09:55 PM
Can anyone please show me one person who has overdosed on THC? I'm not talking violence related to smoking MJ, but straight up, "He took the biggest hit I've ever seen, passed out and died b/c his heart stopped from too much THC."

Seriously, WTF?!??!! This shit is maddening!!!

Unless that bitch can cite some sources, she needs to STFU and GTFO

There has never been a single death associated with marijuana. Ever. Marijuana had 0% toxicity. You could smoke a bale of the strongest herb and still not die from it.

This fact also disputes any claims of marijuana causing cancer. Cancer kills. If marijuana caused cancer, some people would have died from it, and some doctor would be famous for proving it.

farreri
06-20-2012, 09:57 PM
I got a question, how is Heroin a Schedule I drug when I hear it's the best painkiller on earth?! I mean Meth is a Schedule II drug.

Bruno
06-20-2012, 10:00 PM
I wish the Congressman would have asked her how does the DEA explain their position that marijuana has "no medical benefits," but yet the FDA approved Marinol decades ago?

Legal drugs have benefits because the state says they do. Illegal drugs don't because the state says they don't. There is no room for other logic.

Bruno
06-20-2012, 10:03 PM
I got a question, how is Heroin a Schedule I drug when I hear it's the best painkiller on earth?! I mean Meth is a Schedule II drug.

Heroin was made as a miracle drug by the Bayer corporation. When my father was on his death bed with leukemia and tumors, I told him I wished the doctors could give him marijuana to help him eat, and heroin for his inescapable pain. He was on double morphine and it didn't help. And my dad was a tough man. We should be able to give patients whatever they need to get better or ease their pain, period.

farreri
06-20-2012, 10:08 PM
Heroin was made as a miracle drug by the Bayer corporation. When my father was on his death bed with leukemia and tumors, I told him I wished the doctors could give him marijuana to help him eat, and heroin for his inescapable pain. He was on double morphine and it didn't help. And my dad was a tough man. We should be able to give patients whatever they need to get better or ease their pain, period.
I agree. It should at least be legal for doctors to prescribe heroin for people on their death beds.

I just don't see how the most effective painkiller in the world is on the Schedule I list, scientifically speaking that is.

DerailingDaTrain
06-20-2012, 10:09 PM
She said one of her cousins died from smoking cannabis?!? That would make him the first cannabis death in world histoy and one for the record books.

Or, she is a blatant liar who doesn't even realize how ridiculous her lie is.

Notice how she catches herself saying "all drugs, er, all illegal drugs are bad". :rolleyes:

Michele Leonhart has consistently turned down research into the therapeutic and medicinal benefits of marijuana, and has a track record of undermining state law with regard to legal medical marijuana. Recently several pro-legalisation agencies have called on President Obama to withdraw his support of Leonhart, including SSDP, MPP, NORML, LEAP, and DPA. Many people point to Leonhart's claim that marijuana caused her cousin's death as root of her opposition.

Either she has brain damage or she's a liar.

thoughtomator
06-20-2012, 10:11 PM
that chart is so ridiculously political it's not funny

Not only is there zero physical harm associated with cannabis but it's well proven to be a physical help as one of the most versatile and effective medicines known to mankind.

Also, the true "dependency" level of LSD is zero. LSD is a one-shot-deal for most people, and those that use it more rarely do so frequently simply as a function of how long its effect lasts.

And cocaine is not as dangerous as this chart implies, either. For pete's sake, they used to put the stuff in soft drinks. It also has proper medical uses, which is why you find it in hospitals.

DerailingDaTrain
06-20-2012, 10:14 PM
that chart is so ridiculously political it's not funny

Not only is there zero physical harm associated with cannabis but it's well proven to be a physical help as one of the most versatile and effective medicines known to mankind.

I agree with you but there's really only zero physical harm if you don't smoke it. Smoking anything (even cannabis) can cause damage to your lungs and other organs. Some things are more harmful when smoked than others (like tobacco) however.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long-term_effects_of_cannabis#Respiratory_problems



"Although cannabis smoke is not nearly as carcinogenic as tobacco smoke,smoking is the most harmful method of drug consumption, as the inhalation of smoke from organic materials can cause various health problems (e.g., coughing and sputum)."

Bruno
06-20-2012, 10:19 PM
I agree with you but there's really only zero physical harm if you don't smoke it. Smoking anything (even cannabis) can cause damage to your lungs and other organs. Some things are more harmful when smoked than others (like tobacco) however.

Unless the other properties within cannabis counteract any damage caused by smoking it. Generalizations are generalizations.

Considering the government allows extremely few studies using cannabis, i is hard to determine.

But we know this: deaths = zero, cancer = myth/lie/propaganda

It is either causes cancer or it doesn't. There has not been a single documented case of cancer from cannabis, period. The lies continue, despite the facts.

"Although not nearly as strong as sunlight, moonlight must also cause burns because it shines light. Moonlight causes sunburns. Moonlight bad."
Same thing.

DerailingDaTrain
06-20-2012, 10:20 PM
Unless the other properties within cannabis counteract any damage caused by smoking it. Generalizations are generalizations.

Considering the government allows extremely few studies using cannabis, i is hard to determine.

But we know this: deaths = zero, cancer = myth/lie/propaganda

true

Weston White
06-20-2012, 10:23 PM
Perhaps, the next time somebody could bother asking her why (1) the CIA feels so compelled to coordinate the importation of these harmful narcotics into America to begin with, (2) while being aided by the AFT’ gunrunning of assault weapons into the hands of foreign narco-terrorists, and (3) to what practical ends is the U.S. Military really being used to guard the poppy fields in Afghanistan for?

And if she cannot honestly answer every single one of those (including other similar) questions, then the question as to her qualifications to uphold such a position should be raised.

jct74
06-20-2012, 11:42 PM
Steve Cohen couldn't get an answer either


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-6yNgGccO0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-6yNgGccO0

Origanalist
06-20-2012, 11:45 PM
This congressman is pretty freaking cool...after reading his wiki page I found out he is the first openly gay man elected to congress, and he plays League of Legends.

??

Origanalist
06-20-2012, 11:53 PM
I agree with you but there's really only zero physical harm if you don't smoke it. Smoking anything (even cannabis) can cause damage to your lungs and other organs. Some things are more harmful when smoked than others (like tobacco) however.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long-term_effects_of_cannabis#Respiratory_problems



"Although cannabis smoke is not nearly as carcinogenic as tobacco smoke,smoking is the most harmful method of drug consumption, as the inhalation of smoke from organic materials can cause various health problems (e.g., coughing and sputum)."

Well, lets think about this. You are dying, and you want relief from the pain, but want to live out the rest of your days in as much command of your senses as possible.

Morphine, or "cannabis"?

Well shit, which one works better for you? I mean really.................

devil21
06-20-2012, 11:54 PM
Best part of the vid is the black lady in the back cracking up.

Mach
06-21-2012, 12:34 AM
If 'language' offends you, then you will be offended if you watch this.....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQXc4swnfRo

:toady:

DerailingDaTrain
06-21-2012, 12:41 AM
Well, lets think about this. You are dying, and you want relief from the pain, but want to live out the rest of your days in as much command of your senses as possible.

Morphine, or "cannabis"?

Well shit, which one works better for you? I mean really.................

What does any of that have to do with my post? I didn't even mention morphine, death, or pain relief.

tod evans
06-21-2012, 04:03 AM
Hey Madam Revenuer could you justify the existence of your job?

Disregard all of the actual facts and focus on the party line....

Remember all those who frequent the speak-easys are just as much a criminal as the boys making shine.

Those who don't learn from their mistakes.............

Tudo
06-21-2012, 08:08 AM
May her grandchildren be struck with chronic pain from the minute they wake to the minute they go to bed and find out that marijuana COULD help them cope without having to take "legal" opioids. Then watch as they're arrested in the middle of taking a toke from a volcano vaporizer.

Lucille
06-21-2012, 08:15 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0psJhQHk_GI

http://phoenixtears.ca/

JK/SEA
06-21-2012, 09:49 AM
Hey Madam Revenuer could you justify the existence of your job?

Disregard all of the actual facts and focus on the party line....

Remember all those who frequent the speak-easys are just as much a criminal as the boys making shine.

Those who don't learn from their mistakes.............

its all about her paycheck and the paychecks of ALL those in the DEA.....insane is insane, and she and the DEA are all insane. Evil fuckin woman. I'd like to have pushed her face up close to my mom on her deathbed dying from colon cancer..LOOK AT HER!...wasting away, couldn't/wouldn't eat or at the urging of myself and sisters to take a few puffs of good bud to get her to eat. My mom said no..''its illegal''....she died with morphine at full strength in her veins. I will never forget this, and seeing that sick bitch with her blatant lying and making excuses justifying hers and everyones job at the expense of other peoples comfort and family members pain....this shit has to stop. NOW.

fuckin' hell....

tod evans
06-21-2012, 09:51 AM
+rep............My dad, same thing. :o


its all about her paycheck and the paychecks of ALL those in the DEA.....insane is insane, and she and the DEA are all insane. Evil fuckin woman. I'd like to have pushed her face up close to my mom on her deathbed dying from colon cancer..LOOK AT HER!...wasting away, couldn't/wouldn't eat or at the urging of myself and sisters to take a few puffs of good bud to get her to eat. My mom said no..''its illegal''....she died with morphine at full strength in her veins. I will never forget this, and seeing that sick bitch with her blatant lying and making excuses justifying hers and everyones job at the expense of other peoples comfort and family members pain....this shit has to stop. NOW.

Kluge
06-21-2012, 10:04 AM
+rep............My dad, same thing. :o

My dad, similar. He would never have even contemplated marijuana due to his conditioning. He died weighing 110 lbs at 5'11", if not less. Complications of an auto-immune disease with horrific side-effects from the meds.

JK/SEA
06-21-2012, 10:26 AM
The Dept. of Evil and Vile.

Lucille
06-21-2012, 12:00 PM
You know, it's unbelievably irresponsible of her. How many kids are going say, "Well I've tried pot and didn't get addicted or suffer any other harmful affects, and since the head of the DEA says heroin and meth are no worse, then maybe I should try those too."

Lucille
06-21-2012, 12:20 PM
Watch Rep. Jared Polis Shred DEA Administrator Michele Leonhart (http://reason.com/blog/2012/06/21/watch-rep-jared-polis-shred-dea-administ)


Rep. Jared Polis (who we nominated as a potential libertarian successor to Ron Paul (http://reason.com/archives/2012/02/24/who-will-be-the-next-ron-paul))


2.) Rep. Jared Polis (D-Colo.)

Ron Paul isn’t the only marijuana reform advocate retiring from Congress this year. Rep. Barney Frank (D-Mass.) is also taking a powder. When it comes to economic regulation and sexual orientation, Jared Polis is more like Frank than Paul, but he shares the latter’s deep concern with civil liberties.

Polis took office in 2009 and his list of libertarian-ish ideas is short but powerful. He’s called for an end to federal marijuana prohibition, says the Iraq War was a colossal mistake, opposes the Stop Online Piracy Act and the Fairness Doctrine, voted against the PATRIOT Act’s warrantless wiretaps, the suspension of habeus corpus for terror suspects, and domestic spying. He also supports travel to Cuba, and even started a nonprofit foundation in Colorado to help launch charter schools. (Contrary to an earlier version of this article, Polis wasn't in office to vote for TARP, but he did oppose the Detroit bailout.)

In his own words: “Ending the failed policy of prohibition with regard to marijuana will strike a major blow against the criminal cartels that are terrorizing Americans and Mexicans on both sides of the border,” Polis said at a National Press Club Event. “It’s been estimated that the drug cartels derive about half of their revenue from marijuana, so I think it would reduce the violence by half, and reduce the money that fuels the criminal enterprises by half.”

Why He’s Not Number 1: Polis may be good in civil liberties, but he’s a big-government Democrat on absolutely everything else. You name it, Polis has supported it: The pro-union Card Check, a national service initiative, additional the initial stimulus, environmental restrictions on emissions, $40 billion for “green public schools”—the list goes on.

HOLLYWOOD
06-21-2012, 02:49 PM
Steve Cohen couldn't get an answer either


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-6yNgGccO0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-6yNgGccO0Keep the Big Funding Coming our way: $2+ Billion ... Asset forfeitures? Yes we get them from the Judicial Department.

Conflict of Interest. I still remember within 2 weeks after California passed medical marijuana, the DEA came in and did raids across the state.

New Movie, Wesley Snipe, Woody Harleson in: Money Train 2: Stealing Like the DEA

farreri
06-21-2012, 07:41 PM
ROFLMAO!!! Huffpo's front page...

http://i48.tinypic.com/1ioob8.png
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/21/michele-leonhart-dea-crack-heroin-marijuana_n_1615270.html

farreri
06-21-2012, 08:05 PM
This commenter says it right...


Top 5 special interest groups keeping weed illegal

1. Police Unions - departments collect tens of millions in federal marijuana-eradication grants
2. Private Prisons Corporations - the drug war is part in parcel to their business strategy
3. Alcohol and Beer Companies - fear the competition
4. Pharmaceutical corporations - kill any option of cheap medical alternatives
5. Prison guards union - one group spent a $1 million in 2008 in California to defeat a measure that would have “reduced sentences and parole times for nonviolent drug offenders”

This is all about protecting their profits and nothing more. The body count from pharmaceutical deaths is a staggering, 270 per day (100,000.00 per year).

Deaths from marijuana zero.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/Rachel_Flanagan/michele-leonhart-dea-crack-heroin-marijuana_n_1615270_163026964.html

And this commenter replies with the bigger picture...


When you leave out the plastics and lumber industries, you miss the bigger picture!!