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sailingaway
05-30-2012, 04:51 PM
Bruce Morton ‏@BYUfan
According to #WAGOP chair Kirby Wilbur #RonPaul is ahead in CD 3, 6, and 7 #MittRomney is ahead in CD 1, 4, 5, and 8. The others are tossups

this guy says he will be live tweeting, but also speaks of the convention as starting Friday with a reception Thursday night for Ron Paul supporters, whereas elsewhere someone is saying he is already there. Maybe Friday is the 'main day'.

Bruce Morton ‏@BYUfan
Rumor has it that the #WAGOP platform will be only 2 pages. Is that the best they can do?

3h Bruce Morton ‏@BYUfan
All #RonPaul supporters in WA are invited to attend our campaign rally Thursday night before the #WAGOP convention.

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so, if nothing much happens before Friday this might not be a very lively thread...

LIVESTREAM will be here: Washington State Republican Convention (Twitter hashtag #WAGOP): http://www.ustream.tv/user/Mike4Liberty


You can choose from various Washington .... channels (different cameras) on the right hand side of ... those pages.

Thursday, May 31st's schedule:
WAGOP 4PM-7PM PT (6PM-9PM CT) — Liberty party with candidates' formal talks and informal interviews.

Friday, June 1st's schedule:
WAGOP 9AM-5PM PT (11AM-7PM CT) — Washington GOP Convention.
MOGOP 6PM-7PM CT (4PM-5PM PT) — Leadership interviews.
MOGOP 7PM-9PM CT (5PM-7PM PT) — Liberty campfire with candidate moneybomb and interviews.

Saturday, June 2nd's schedule:
MOGOP 9AM-5PM CT (7AM-3PM PT) — Missouri GOP Convention. Candidate and leadership interviews during breaks.
WAGOP 9AM-5PM PT (11AM-7PM CT) — Washington GOP Convention. Candidate and leadership interviews during breaks.

https://www.facebook.com/notes/paul-mehner/live-streaming-coverage-of-the-washington-and-missouri-conventions-may-31-jun-2/10150817432772890

RPit
05-30-2012, 07:25 PM
Bruce Morton is our guy- he's the Ron Paul 44th Legislative District Coordinator- he's an alternate btw.

Origanalist
05-30-2012, 08:05 PM
Kirby Wilbur is NOT a Ron Paul kind of guy.

jcannon98188
05-31-2012, 07:48 AM
Bruce Morton is a good guy, Kirby Wilbur is not :)

See you all at the party tonight?

sailingaway
05-31-2012, 08:19 AM
Don't know what this means in the scheme of things but it doesn't sound like a positive:

John K ‏@t1mel0rd
Cronyism at work! Only 14/64 delegates elected and its Chair/Vice Chair/KCRP Officers and family. #wagop #wsrp #ronpaul http://www.kitsaprepublicans.com/convention-caucus/2012-WA_ST_ConventionDelegates.pdf

5h John K ‏@t1mel0rd
#wagop violating rules on eve of State Convention! http://thereaganwing.wordpress.com/2012/05/25/2012-credentials-no-call-to-convention/ #wsrp #kcrp #ronpaul2012 #ronpaul

jcannon98188
05-31-2012, 08:26 AM
Yeah, Washington State is due to get pretty ugly I think. Luckily we have Doug Parish who knows the rules like the back of his hands. If something happens, we can count on him to cause trouble over it. Great guy, and I think one of the greatest assets that Washington State had this election cycle. Unfortunately, the GOP here is just too corupt. Lori Sotello is a spawn of satan, and Kirby Wilbur is protecting her. Hopefully, they will all fall from power soon.

sailingaway
05-31-2012, 10:31 AM
Bruce Morton ‏@BYUfan
#Romney delegates have had a 20% no-show rate at other state conventions #RonPaul delegates need to all show up and fill those seats. #wagop

38m debbie b ‏@debbiewarrick
To all the Patriot's that remembered the Motto: No (TWITTER) SOLDIER LEFT BEHIND THANK YOU.....ONE VOICE SILENCED IS ONE TO MANY!! GOD BLESS
Retweeted by Melissa Churchman

JK/SEA
05-31-2012, 10:39 AM
Doug Parris is a contributor to the Reagan wing blog, and yes, he is a very well versed individual on Roberts Rules and the GOP rules. We actually have a nice size 'army' of individuals who are going to make this an interesting convention.

Bruce Morton and i are neighbors... literally...He is a true warrior. I'm honored to be able to call him a friend.

sailingaway
05-31-2012, 11:13 AM
apparently there will be a livestream in WA and MO

paulmehner ‏@paulmehner
Please RT: Watch LIVE STREAMING COVERAGE of the Washington and Missouri Conventions - May 31-Jun 2 http://on.fb.me/LK7QDS #RonPaul #WAGOP

sailingaway
05-31-2012, 01:22 PM
Bruce Morton ‏@BYUfan
If establishment #wagop doesn't like cameras at the convention, I hope they feel the same about domestic #drones operated by the police.

49m Bruce Morton ‏@BYUfan
#RonPaul supporters will be streaming video of the #wagop convention, but the rules committee may ban all cameras.
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ItsTime
05-31-2012, 01:30 PM
get ready to rummmmmmmble

JK/SEA
05-31-2012, 01:40 PM
The Tacoma Dome has a big parking lot.

lib3rtarian
05-31-2012, 01:45 PM
devotedlpfan (http://twitter.com/devotedlpfan) RT @drawthaline (http://twitter.com/drawthaline): #RonPaul (http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23RonPaul) has 1,000 DELEGATES!! http://t.co/xmjIcqjS #tcot (http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23tcot) #catcot (http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23catcot) #GOP (http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23GOP) #CAGOP (http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23CAGOP) #TXGOP (http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23TXGOP) #MOGOP (http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23MOGOP) #LAGOP (http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23LAGOP) #WAGOP (http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23WAGOP) #SDGOP (http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23SDGOP) #NCGOP (http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23NCGOP) #NJGOP (http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23NJGOP)
Thu, May 31 15:29:05 (http://twitter.com/devotedlpfan/statuses/208278948080140288)

hanniespice (http://twitter.com/hanniespice) RT @washdems (http://twitter.com/washdems): Michelle Malkin is speaking tonight at the @WAGOP (http://twitter.com/WAGOP) convention. Will @RobMcKenna (http://twitter.com/RobMcKenna) be #endorsedbymichelle (http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23endorsedbymichelle)? http://t.co/LoSMPzlJ
Thu, May 31 13:41:11 (http://twitter.com/hanniespice/statuses/208251793170370560)

FreedomFdtn (http://twitter.com/FreedomFdtn) Our Digital Outreach Director, @LasseLund (http://twitter.com/LasseLund), is on the Newest in New Media panel in Room 407 at #wagop (http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23wagop). Join us online or in person!
Thu, May 31 12:03:40 (http://twitter.com/FreedomFdtn/statuses/208227254344482816)

sailingaway
05-31-2012, 01:48 PM
It sounds like 1000 depends on what happens at conventions, so it is kind of circular, that tweet, if the count is accurate (per the linked article)

To be honest, I can't imagine anyone actually having that information, talking about it.

AmericasLastHope
05-31-2012, 01:59 PM
It sounds like 1000 depends on what happens at conventions, so it is kind of circular, that tweet, if the count is accurate (per the linked article).

What is the direct quote from the linked article? I must've clicked on the wrong one, because I don't see it.

sailingaway
05-31-2012, 02:13 PM
What is the direct quote from the linked article? I must've clicked on the wrong one, because I don't see it.


Siemon added that Ron Paul Festival will also serve as a pre-game rally for Ron Paul's national convention delegates, which could number up to 1,000, according to one source familiar with the campaign's internal delegate count. Festival planners are organizing "Ronvoys" to bus these delegates down to Tampa, and have also started a "sponsor-a-delegate" fundraiser to help pay for travel and lodging costs.

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/ron-paul-festival-tampa-republican-national-convention-2012-5#ixzz1wTpv9Tms

so that could be a pretty loose number, or not, who knows?

surf
05-31-2012, 02:29 PM
i hate this f-ing twitter language bs.

anyway, Michelle Malkin was local. she spoke to about 10 of us at a libertarian dinner 15 or so years ago. she seemed more libertarian at the time rather than the neocon she is now. i'm very hopeful for good results in Tacoma. if so and if i'm elected next time i'd expect no neocon prime-timers.

cameras. what the helll is wrong with these people?

ps - at our district convention that the establishiment ruled over us there was a mention that they were working to get a "certain congressman from Florida" to speak at the convention.....

jcannon98188
05-31-2012, 02:48 PM
A certain tyrant from Florida you mean? :)

sailingaway
05-31-2012, 03:07 PM
Jordan Schrader ‏@Jordan_Schrader
#WAGOP has canceled plans to debut a film by Citizens United, "Obama," at state convention. Movie's not finished, GOP chairman says.

sailingaway
05-31-2012, 03:09 PM
Jordan Schrader ‏@Jordan_Schrader
#WAGOP chair Kirby Wilbur sits on the Citizens United board.

4m Jordan Schrader ‏@Jordan_Schrader
Citizens United was the group whose movie attacking H. Clinton led to the famous court ruling. #WAGOP

AmericasLastHope
05-31-2012, 04:19 PM
so that could be a pretty loose number, or not, who knows?

"according to one source familiar with the campaign's internal delegate count." Interesting, thanks.

sailingaway
05-31-2012, 05:10 PM
https://p.twimg.com/AuQm7iNCMAAbQ8n.jpg

Bruce Morton ‏@BYUfan
I have arrived. #wagop https://twitter.com/BYUfan/status/208334286997303296/photo/1

sailingaway
05-31-2012, 05:51 PM
Bruce Morton ‏@BYUfan
The #ronpaul table at the #wagop convention is at the far far end of the exhibit hall. #unfair :-( http://t.co/xqlD9D6V

https://p.twimg.com/AuQveKaCAAAQA6U.jpg

for some reason this guy's tweets aren't showing up in the #wagop stream, so if you want to see them on your own, you had better follow him. https://twitter.com/#!/BYUfan

sailingaway
05-31-2012, 05:54 PM
Bruce Morton ‏@BYUfan
credentials room at the #wagop convention. be sure to sign in at the computers after you get your packet http://t.co/BHSx1k2S

https://p.twimg.com/AuQu4b0CMAAYWuI.jpg

jtwing85
05-31-2012, 05:59 PM
Anyone here at landmark convention center for the preconvention party?

sailingaway
05-31-2012, 06:10 PM
Some people on twitter are, but I don't know any here are. Someone posted in the Washington forum this morning. Assuming that wasn't you, they left a way for themselves to be contacted there.

sailingaway
05-31-2012, 07:48 PM
Jordan Schrader ‏@Jordan_Schrader
"...& rules violation in a futile attempt to shut us out. They failed." #WAGOP #waelex

5m Jordan Schrader ‏@Jordan_Schrader
Organizer Matt Dubin tells delegates: "We fought an entrenched political machine that used deception, intimidation ..." #waelex #WAGOP

8m Jordan Schrader ‏@Jordan_Schrader
Paul organizers look beyond #WAGOP convention, urge delegates to "go forward out of Tacoma to remake the Wa. St. Repub. Party" #waelex

this is at the pre party. The Mittster is having his in a hotel somewhere.

RabbitMan
05-31-2012, 07:58 PM
Wish I could have been at the party. My friend didn't want to go drink today though. :(

sailingaway
05-31-2012, 08:07 PM
from the pictures they are tweeting it looks like they are listening to campaign speeches, very dry. However, there was mention of pizza....

best to get an early night though, you might be up until dawn the following day.

sailingaway
05-31-2012, 08:25 PM
https://p.twimg.com/AuRTRCNCIAA7qu7.jpg

https://twitter.com/shanetstewart/status/208383034871914496/photo/1

:rolleyes:

this guy is playing foursquare and every check in counts..... he just extended his time as mayor with this one....

He is a Romney supporter, at least he was at the Romney rally, not Paul's.

lib3rtarian
05-31-2012, 08:48 PM
https://p.twimg.com/AuRTRCNCIAA7qu7.jpg


Did Michelle Obama set the menu?

sailingaway
05-31-2012, 08:52 PM
I think our guys are still at our rally, and I heard about pizza. This must be Romney's food.

sailingaway
05-31-2012, 11:23 PM
bump for tomorrow

jtwing85
06-01-2012, 12:06 AM
I'll break the news now before everyone gets upset when it doesn't happen tomorrow, the plan is to not replace the chair. I'm not happy about it, but it looks like Kirby "Sit down and shut up" Wilbur will be chairing the WA state convention.

paulbot24
06-01-2012, 12:14 AM
Oh %@#$. He sounds like a handy crafted tool. Can you tell us why you're not replacing the chair? Lack of numbers or is it all part of a master plan?

jtwing85
06-01-2012, 12:38 AM
I'm guessing that we don't have the numbers since they said the Paul campaign talked to the Romney campaign concerning the 10 At-large delegates and proposed splitting them proportionally to match the straw vote. The Romney campaign declined.

staobrof
06-01-2012, 02:51 AM
No one will know how many delegates we really have until we see who shows up tomorrow and the alternates are seated. Thats how they got their overwhelming numbers in Minnesota.

cassielund99@gmail.com
06-01-2012, 05:58 AM
To me that don't make sense not to replace the chair? The only reason not to is to not show are hand to quickly. If this chair is as bad as people say. I would be first to the podium to replace the chair whether the numbers are there or not.

anewvoice
06-01-2012, 06:19 AM
Good luck to WA, one of my colleagues is speaking today I believe!

SilenceDewgooder
06-01-2012, 06:48 AM
http://www.bellinghamherald.com/2012/06/01/2544908/convention-center-fills-with-ron.html

'Convention Center fills with Ron Paul Craze'

Origanalist
06-01-2012, 07:17 AM
Dammit! Kirby is a smart guy and he's going to stomp on us as chair.

sailingaway
06-01-2012, 09:04 AM
I'll break the news now before everyone gets upset when it doesn't happen tomorrow, the plan is to not replace the chair. I'm not happy about it, but it looks like Kirby "Sit down and shut up" Wilbur will be chairing the WA state convention.

every time we don't replace the chair we regret it. We have tons of video of how they cheat and this time they aren't allowing cameras which is the only way we have been able to get our rights, ever.

I sure hope you are ready to do 'deaf chair' response and replace him mid stream, with bullhorns in hand so you can be heard over the upset crowd.....

Bruce Morton ‏@BYUfan
Cameras are banned at #wagop convention. Rule will be challenged. #ronpaul

sailingaway
06-01-2012, 09:06 AM
I'm guessing that we don't have the numbers since they said the Paul campaign talked to the Romney campaign concerning the 10 At-large delegates and proposed splitting them proportionally to match the straw vote. The Romney campaign declined.

Oh, well. It is what it is. That email and media that Romney has 'clinched it' when it assumes the OUTCOME of all these conventions did a job, I suspect.

YOu can only do what you can do, though. All our best wishes are with you!

kathy88
06-01-2012, 09:18 AM
The Romney campaign can suck my ass. I got a donation request from them yesterday. Mailed it back with THIS inside.


http://www.altweeklies.com/imager/mitt-romney-american-parasite/b/magnum/6127716/f6c1/Mitt_Romney_Bain_Mag.jpg

sailingaway
06-01-2012, 09:27 AM
lol!

YOu could tweet #IEndorseRonPaul tweets using the #MOgop and #WAgop and #LAgop hash tags to show our delegates we support them... https://twitter.com/#!/search/realtime/%23IEndorseRonPaul

SilenceDewgooder
06-01-2012, 09:28 AM
The Romney campaign can suck my ass. I got a donation request from them yesterday. Mailed it back with THIS inside.

what do you plan on doing with the poster? I received the same thing earlier this week... still toying with ideas...

sailingaway
06-01-2012, 09:37 AM
what do you plan on doing with the poster? I received the same thing earlier this week... still toying with ideas...

I never open mine. Guess I missed the poster.....

kathy88
06-01-2012, 09:42 AM
I didn't get a poster. I got a four page letter full of lies and drivel.

FSP-Rebel
06-01-2012, 09:42 AM
I never open mine. Guess I missed the poster.....
I feel left out, not getting one and all. Some people I know would love to use that for target practice.

Anyways, has roll call been taken yet? If so, any dels as no shows where our alts could rise?

jtwing85
06-01-2012, 09:48 AM
Cameras are not banned. The rules say that if they become disruptive, that the chair may restrict operation of them. We are going to try and get the rule removed, but the simple solution would be to not be disruptive, just record in silence.

invisible
06-01-2012, 09:58 AM
what do you plan on doing with the poster? I received the same thing earlier this week... still toying with ideas...

"Dear Mitt,

Since the bailouts you support have devalued my money, this has left me with less to donate to political candidates. Unfortunately for you, I've already donated all that I can afford to the Ron Paul campaign. Anything that I have left, I have to save so that I can afford to go to Tampa and vote for Ron Paul at the national convention. As it is, I was barely able to afford to go vote for Ron Paul at my state convention. Surely you understand what it's like to not be able to afford things, especially when it comes to donating to a worthy cause. I really hope that my lack of a donation doesn't force you to sell one of your 11 houses, or dip into one of your offshore bank accounts so that you can continue to campaign for more bailouts and war. I wish you good luck, maybe you would get better results by sending these letters to your Nascar team owning friends or your buddies from the yacht club, instead of regular folks like me. I really feel bad for you, and since I can't afford to send you a donation, I am instead enclosing a Ron Paul bumper sticker as a small token of my appreciation.

Sincerely Yours,
(name)"

sailingaway
06-01-2012, 09:58 AM
Amber Green ‏@amberdgreen
The Romney floor leaders are wearing prison orange tshirts and hats...#wagop
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sailingaway
06-01-2012, 09:59 AM
Cameras are not banned. The rules say that if they become disruptive, that the chair may restrict operation of them. We are going to try and get the rule removed, but the simple solution would be to not be disruptive, just record in silence.

thank you for clarifying that. I agree that IF the chair follows the rules that should be sufficient. Our camera guys have never been disruptive.

jtwing85
06-01-2012, 10:09 AM
We have 19/20 from my legislative district here, there are no alternates.

RabbitMan
06-01-2012, 10:11 AM
I thought we were doing surprisingly well in WA, wasn't aware of one county of our's not being seated and another of ours being 'replaced' by the establishment. That sucks. Did we take as big of a hit from the Jesse Benton announcement as people were speculating?

jtwing85
06-01-2012, 10:17 AM
The yes and no signs are out on both sides.

sailingaway
06-01-2012, 10:24 AM
We have 19/20 from my legislative district here, there are no alternates.

thank you.

sailingaway
06-01-2012, 10:28 AM
Kirby speaking:

https://p.twimg.com/AuUTAkSCEAEjn6i.jpg

https://twitter.com/Trent4CTCouncil/status/208593858198638592/photo/1

RabbitMan
06-01-2012, 10:34 AM
Live Streaming from Local TV!

http://tvw.org/index.php?option=com_tvwliveplayer&eventID=2012060015

NOTE: Anybody else listening to this Reagan speech hear Ron Paul in it?

NOTE 2: Wow, Conan movie clips. Wow.

NOTE 3: Hearing a lot of 'Liberty' being thrown around. Weird...

sailingaway
06-01-2012, 10:42 AM
Live Streaming from Local TV!

http://tvw.org/index.php?option=com_tvwliveplayer&eventID=2012060015

NOTE: Anybody else listening to this Reagan speech hear Ron Paul in it?

NOTE 2: Wow, Conan movie clips. Wow.

NOTE 3: Hearing a lot of 'Liberty' being thrown around. Weird...

They want us to think they know what it means so we vote for Romney.

RabbitMan
06-01-2012, 10:47 AM
Josh Romney again! Oh boy...

EDIT: UGH. A Dino Rossi shout-out? Lost my vote.

jtwing85
06-01-2012, 10:48 AM
Lots of people standing for josh romney. Didn't look good for us, we will see what happens when our guy speaks.

RabbitMan
06-01-2012, 10:53 AM
Did Josh just break rules AGAIN? Electioneering? Sounds like we are out-numbered. :(

sailingaway
06-01-2012, 10:58 AM
Did Josh just break rules AGAIN? Electioneering? Sounds like we are out-numbered. :(

All you can do is what you can do. We're with you.

jtwing85
06-01-2012, 11:00 AM
Did Josh just break rules AGAIN? Electioneering? Sounds like we are out-numbered. :(

We are outnumbered.

FSP-Rebel
06-01-2012, 11:06 AM
We are outnumbered.
like 40/60 or worse?

jtwing85
06-01-2012, 11:11 AM
Matt Dubin is my district leader. He is a great guy.

sailingaway
06-01-2012, 11:11 AM
Peter Callaghan ‏@CallaghanPeter
Dueling chants between RonPaul and MittRomney supporters. Sounds like a draw/ #WAGOP

RabbitMan
06-01-2012, 11:13 AM
Shane ‏@shanetstewart
#wagop Ron Paul supporters are very rude to others speaking

WTF? Josh breaks the rules and we boo him, and our guy talks normal and keeps getting interrupted. Sigh.

sailingaway
06-01-2012, 11:14 AM
Shane ‏@shanetstewart
#wagop Ron Paul supporters are very rude to others speaking

WTF? Josh breaks the rules and we boo him, and our guy talks normal and keeps getting interrupted. Sigh.

when our guys were punched in OK we didn't punch back yet it was reported as disruption and fisticuffs WHERE RON PAUL SUPPORTERS were as if we caused it.

Media will report Josh was booed AND HE KNOWS IT because it happened before when he did the exact same thing. He does it for sympathy -- except from us of course.

jtwing85
06-01-2012, 11:16 AM
like 40/60 or worse?

Looks like 30/70. Vocally it seems even, but when people stand, we are very clearly outnumbered.

jtwing85
06-01-2012, 11:18 AM
when our guys were punched in OK we didn't punch back yet it was reported as disruption and fisticuffs WHERE RON PAUL SUPPORTERS were as if we caused it.

Media will report Josh was booed AND HE KNOWS IT because it happened before when he did the exact same thing. He does it for sympathy -- except from us of course.

They booed our guy the whole time. Josh was only booed when he said we need to unify around his dad.

sailingaway
06-01-2012, 11:19 AM
They booed our guy the whole time. Josh was only booed when he said we need to unify around his dad.

but they'll excuse it cause we did it first. I'm not saying they are right. I think they are wrong, and having the most active part of the party hate their candidates guts isn't going to help them, in the long run, regardless.

RabbitMan
06-01-2012, 11:26 AM
Wow, Richard Sanders got a unanimous endorsement from the Central Committee? Awesome! At least there will be one good thing to come out of this.

jtwing85
06-01-2012, 11:31 AM
Justice Richard Sanders is supported by everyone here, and he endorsed Ron Paul.

jtwing85
06-01-2012, 11:50 AM
Preliminary credentials report is in, they are seating late arrivals and alternates now. My LD has 20/20 present. We are all Ron Paul supporters.

Ekrub
06-01-2012, 11:56 AM
Richard Sanders is a good dude. Glad to hear it.

hb6102
06-01-2012, 12:09 PM
So why does Newt have a speaker?

sailingaway
06-01-2012, 12:10 PM
Preliminary credentials report is in, they are seating late arrivals and alternates now. My LD has 20/20 present. We are all Ron Paul supporters.

good work!

JK/SEA
06-01-2012, 12:11 PM
Richard Sanders is a good dude. Glad to hear it.

I've met him. Definetly one of us. He has my endorsement AND my vote. He is running for an open slot on the Washington State Supreme court due to a retirement....we need him back in there.

KMX
06-01-2012, 12:12 PM
Just noticed this was today.

How is everything looking?

SilenceDewgooder
06-01-2012, 12:18 PM
Just noticed this was today. How is everything looking?


Get Involved!

a bit contradictive - just 'Joshing' you... pun intented

notsure
06-01-2012, 12:22 PM
Is anyone else having trouble getting on DailyPaul.com?

*Nvm, I see there's already a thread about it*

KMX
06-01-2012, 12:28 PM
a bit contradictive - just 'Joshing' you... pun intented

LOL nice.

Well I am in Texas and have been getting people rides and rooms up to the Convention. Plus elections was last week. BEEEN super busy.

sailingaway
06-01-2012, 12:36 PM
twitter says they are finally calling up alternates.

sailingaway
06-01-2012, 12:43 PM
Jordan Schrader ‏@Jordan_Schrader
Sen. cand. Coday outlines Paul-friendly plans to slash agencies, audit Fed & oppose UN programs on environment and arms trade #wagop #waelex

KMX
06-01-2012, 12:44 PM
very nice

sailingaway
06-01-2012, 12:45 PM
From guys there it sounds like we don't have the numbers, but we will see. Alternates hadn't been called up yet.

Lightweis
06-01-2012, 12:56 PM
don't people have to work on Friday in Washington?

tuggy24g
06-01-2012, 01:06 PM
I hope we can pull off some type of upset and win a good amount. Please be with us!!!

sailingaway
06-01-2012, 01:08 PM
Amber Green ‏@amberdgreen
10 minute recess while we continue to wait for cred report #wagop
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KMX
06-01-2012, 01:44 PM
What happen to everyone in WA? I thought we were good/.

JK/SEA
06-01-2012, 01:47 PM
What happen to everyone in WA? I thought we were good/.

be patient grasshopper.

JK/SEA
06-01-2012, 02:46 PM
interesting delay on the credentials report...any ideas?

lib3rtarian
06-01-2012, 02:51 PM
GuyFancy (http://twitter.com/GuyFancy) RT @1Marchella (http://twitter.com/1Marchella): @DonaldDeez (http://twitter.com/DonaldDeez) heard Ron Paul just lost 17 delegates in Clark county did you know? Heard alternates are stepping up, don't lose hope! #WaGop (http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23WaGop)
Fri, Jun 01 16:26:14 (http://twitter.com/GuyFancy/statuses/208655718562275328)

GuyFancy (http://twitter.com/GuyFancy) RT @1Marchella (http://twitter.com/1Marchella): Josh Romney passed out a fake slate after his speech. #WAGop (http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23WAGop) *Told he wasn't supposed to do but did. #Mitt (http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23Mitt) #Romney (http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23Romney) has to cheat to win.
Fri, Jun 01 16:25:39 (http://twitter.com/GuyFancy/statuses/208655569270214656)

amberdgreen (http://twitter.com/amberdgreen) So it has been an hour and 20 minutes since we adjouned for a 10 minute recess? #wagop (http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23wagop) Maybe I missed lunch announcement
Fri, Jun 01 16:20:38 (http://twitter.com/amberdgreen/statuses/208654309846560770)

amberdgreen (http://twitter.com/amberdgreen) Remind me: did credentials take this long in 2008 #wagop (http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23wagop) #ronpaul2012 (http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23ronpaul2012)
Fri, Jun 01 16:05:29 (http://twitter.com/amberdgreen/statuses/208650496305664001)

BryanMyrick (http://twitter.com/BryanMyrick) Some delays in delegate credentialing as no-shows are confirmed, according to Washington State Republican Party Chair Kirby Wilbur. #wagop (http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23wagop)
Fri, Jun 01 15:59:53 (http://twitter.com/BryanMyrick/statuses/208649085262110722)

jtwing85
06-01-2012, 04:05 PM
Still dealing with credentials report. There are still unfilled spots and available alternates.

KMX
06-01-2012, 04:13 PM
Let's fill them in with Paul people!

jtwing85
06-01-2012, 04:17 PM
Credentials report accepted. There will be an amended credentials report tomorrow to fill the vacancies.

thatpeculiarcat
06-01-2012, 04:24 PM
GuyFancy (http://twitter.com/GuyFancy) RT @1Marchella (http://twitter.com/1Marchella): Josh Romney passed out a fake slate after his speech. #WAGop (http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23WAGop) *Told he wasn't supposed to do but did. #Mitt (http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23Mitt) #Romney (http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23Romney) has to cheat to win.



And we're the bad guys for booing him?

jtwing85
06-01-2012, 04:26 PM
Chair said that they have no qualms about recording devices. The only issue is to respect private conversations.

cassielund99@gmail.com
06-01-2012, 04:29 PM
seems pretty even when listening to the ayes and nays. When they add the alternates which hopefully will be a lot of Paul people.

jtwing85
06-01-2012, 04:33 PM
People aren't voting party lines. Lots of Romney people voted nay because they want to accept the rules and move on.

JK/SEA
06-01-2012, 04:50 PM
Kirby Wilbur remains the permanent Chair. Un-opposed.

Convention adjourned till saturday morning.

Lightweis
06-01-2012, 04:56 PM
so whats our chances tomorrow

LatinsforPaul
06-01-2012, 05:00 PM
Kirby Wilbur remains the permanent Chair. Un-opposed.

Convention adjourned till saturday morning.

Incorrect, they have adjourned into districts.

https://twitter.com/Trent4CTCouncil/status/208691543480082432

10 districts with 3 delegates and 3 alternates coming out of each.

JK/SEA
06-01-2012, 05:15 PM
The main convention is adjourned. Caucus meetings, then go home. No going back to main room till saturday. At least thats what i heard from Wilbur. He didn't say 'break' he said 'adjourn'..

http://tvw.org/index.php?option=com_tvwliveplayer&eventID=2012060015

Pauling
06-01-2012, 05:44 PM
Kirby Wilbur remains the permanent Chair. Un-opposed.

Convention adjourned till saturday morning.

Why didn't we get rid of this guy?

jtwing85
06-01-2012, 06:23 PM
Kirby Wilbur has been a very fair chair. We did not have the numbers to replace him.

We just took the 3 delegates from CD 7. We are voting on alternates now, and we will win them.

JK/SEA
06-01-2012, 06:25 PM
Why didn't we get rid of this guy?

Wilbur isn't too bad. It was a decision the Ron Paul leadership decided. Let him have it without rancor. Its more of a 'i'll scratch your back if you scratch mine'. Hopefully we don't bleed too much...lets see what happens.

Origanalist
06-01-2012, 06:35 PM
Wilbur isn't too bad. It was a decision the Ron Paul leadership decided. Let him have it without rancor. Its more of a 'i'll scratch your back if you scratch mine'. Hopefully we don't bleed too much...lets see what happens.

I used to think Kirby was a principled man, lets hope he proves my earlier impression right.

LatinsforPaul
06-01-2012, 06:41 PM
The count is in! Ron Paul unity slate sweeps delegate slots in 3rd CD. #wagop

LatinsforPaul
06-01-2012, 06:55 PM
CD 7 just elected all 3 #RonPaul Delegates to State Convention. #WAgop

So Ron Paul has swept #wagop delegates in the 7th and 3rd CDs. Any other reports in ?

https://twitter.com/#!/search/realtime/%23wagop

kill the banks
06-01-2012, 06:57 PM
wow great

cassielund99@gmail.com
06-01-2012, 07:02 PM
wow great hope we can take a few more cd's.

digitaldean
06-01-2012, 07:03 PM
How many have pass and we didn't win? Only 2 have counted so far or more?

cassielund99@gmail.com
06-01-2012, 07:04 PM
I sure hope they finally brought the alternates in before the vote. That should help us.

Lightweis
06-01-2012, 07:09 PM
did we lose any yet?

sailingaway
06-01-2012, 07:15 PM
This is consistent with the first tweet in the OP, so far:

Bruce Morton ‏@BYUfan
According to #WAGOP chair Kirby Wilbur #RonPaul is ahead in CD 3, 6, and 7 #MittRomney is ahead in CD 1, 4, 5, and 8. The others are tossups

Unfortunately with 6 and 9 it sounds like Romney got two of the toss ups.

However, seating alternates can change it.

LatinsforPaul
06-01-2012, 07:15 PM
did we lose any yet?

By the tweets we lost CD4, CD6, CD8, CD9

sailingaway
06-01-2012, 07:16 PM
Eric Earling ‏@ericearling
weeping: no majority on 1st #wa02 ballot. 2nd ballot coming now for delegates. #wagop

sailingaway
06-01-2012, 07:17 PM
Bryan Myrick ‏@BryanMyrick
At this point, it seems as though #WA01 and #WA02 are potential swings. We hear that there is a logjam in the counting room. #WAGOP

sailingaway
06-01-2012, 07:18 PM
By the tweets we lost CD4, CD6, CD8, CD9

I'm not seeing cd 4.....

sailingaway
06-01-2012, 07:21 PM
a tweet said they are posting results here as they get them: http://www.tacoma2012.com/

but it just says the names, I don't know who they support.

Lightweis
06-01-2012, 07:23 PM
more delegates plz!

CPUd
06-01-2012, 07:31 PM
Cindy Honcoop @waeagles

#WA01 delegate ballot finally in with a Romney sweep #WAGOP

Lightweis
06-01-2012, 07:31 PM
Cindy Honcoop @waeagles

#WA01 delegate ballot finally in with a Romney sweep #WAGOP

OH no!!! what other ones are left?

Lightweis
06-01-2012, 07:32 PM
what about Wa02?

sailingaway
06-01-2012, 07:32 PM
Cindy Honcoop ‏@waeagles
#WA01 delegate ballot finally in with a Romney sweep #WAGOP

CPUd
06-01-2012, 07:35 PM
what about Wa02?

Looks like it is going to a 2nd ballot

sailingaway
06-01-2012, 07:36 PM
WA 10 is still to come, as well.

sailingaway
06-01-2012, 07:37 PM
Mike Baker ‏@MikeBakerAP
Ron Paul loyalists sweep delegates in 2 Wash. cong districts (#wa07 + #wa03) and force 2nd vote in another (#wa02) #wagop

Lightweis
06-01-2012, 07:37 PM
Looks like it is going to a 2nd ballot

Sorry for my ignorance, why do they go to a second ballot? do they need 50 plus 1

Lightweis
06-01-2012, 07:38 PM
Mike Baker ‏@MikeBakerAP
Ron Paul loyalists sweep delegates in 2 Wash. cong districts (#wa07 + #wa03) and force 2nd vote in another (#wa02) #wagop

SWEEEEEEP

Lightweis
06-01-2012, 07:56 PM
any updates??? plz

paulbot24
06-01-2012, 07:58 PM
Updates? Here we go with another F5 Friday evening. My streaming is too slow...

Lightweis
06-01-2012, 08:07 PM
???

CPUd
06-01-2012, 08:08 PM
Mike Baker @MikeBakerAP
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Romney wins #wa02. Looks like Paul's folks get 5 delegates from #wagop, plus 1 Santorum person they supported.

Lightweis
06-01-2012, 08:09 PM
OH RATS.. I thought we won Wa02?

sailingaway
06-01-2012, 08:09 PM
An AP reporter is saying 18 for Romney 5 for Ron plus 'a Santorum supporter they were supporting'. Dunno, didn't see that many results.

Feelgood
06-01-2012, 08:12 PM
http://www.arthursclipart.org/teddybears/teddycol/SWEEP.gif

Paul Bots hard at work!

RabbitMan
06-01-2012, 08:16 PM
So at-large delegates are being voted on tomorrow(which we are going to lose)? Is it just CDs today? Does that mean we actually did much worse than the AP gave us credit for? :(

seawolf
06-01-2012, 08:16 PM
Based on the accuracy of Mike Baker's AP Tweets with only 5 delegates tonight, you can scratch Washington as one of the five States needed to Nominate Ron at the GOP Convention in Tampa.

We are really going to have to have Missouri and Louisiana this weekend. This is must win time!!!

Lightweis
06-01-2012, 08:17 PM
Yikes we didn't do well!

lib3rtarian
06-01-2012, 08:34 PM
Jim_Brunner (http://twitter.com/Jim_Brunner) Latest delegate count from #wagop (http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23wagop) convtn: Romney 21, Paul 5, Santo 1 (that delegate part of a Paul-Santo slate) WA-10 not done #waelex (http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23waelex)
Fri, Jun 01 22:27:35 (http://twitter.com/Jim_Brunner/statuses/208746655581880320)

Gotta admire the Romney folks who didn't just stay at home thinking Paul dropped out. Whether there was a GOTV effort or not on the part of the Romney campaign, the fact of the matter is that they showed up and we didn't. (http://twitter.com/Jim_Brunner)

EDIT:
(http://twitter.com/Jim_Brunner)RalphHornsby (http://twitter.com/RalphHornsby) RT @BryanMyrick (http://twitter.com/BryanMyrick): Word on #WA10 (http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23WA10) now in. 2 for Romney, 1 for Paul. That makes today's delegate count 23 Romney, 6 Paul, 1 Santorum. #WAGOP (http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23WAGOP)
Fri, Jun 01 22:33:13 (http://twitter.com/RalphHornsby/statuses/208748073466335233)

Eisenhower
06-01-2012, 08:36 PM
Jim_Brunner (http://twitter.com/Jim_Brunner) Latest delegate count from #wagop (http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23wagop) convtn: Romney 21, Paul 5, Santo 1 (that delegate part of a Paul-Santo slate) WA-10 not done #waelex (http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23waelex)
Fri, Jun 01 22:27:35 (http://twitter.com/Jim_Brunner/statuses/208746655581880320)

Gotta admire the Romney folks who didn't just stay at home thinking Paul dropped out. Whether there was a GOTV effort or not on the part of the Romney campaign, the fact of the matter is that they showed up and we didn't. (http://twitter.com/Jim_Brunner)

EDIT:
(http://twitter.com/Jim_Brunner)RalphHornsby (http://twitter.com/RalphHornsby) RT @BryanMyrick (http://twitter.com/BryanMyrick): Word on #WA10 (http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23WA10) now in. 2 for Romney, 1 for Paul. That makes today's delegate count 23 Romney, 6 Paul, 1 Santorum. #WAGOP (http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23WAGOP)
Fri, Jun 01 22:33:13 (http://twitter.com/RalphHornsby/statuses/208748073466335233)


I'm sure the national campaign was heavily involved here.

losinglife
06-01-2012, 08:40 PM
what the crap.....

lib3rtarian
06-01-2012, 08:53 PM
I'm sure the national campaign was heavily involved here.

The national campaign is the biggest liability for us now. Call me bitter, but if that asshole Benton had kept his mouth shut back couple of weeks ago, we would be winning A LOT now. Benton effectively killed the momentum we had. Noticed how we never won shit after ME and NV? We peaked in ME/NV and then Benton dropped the bomb, as if on purpose. It was all downhill since.

Now watch as Benton and Co. tries to co-opt and coerce all national delegates we do have, to make them "behave" at the convention. Each delegate will have a delegate coordinator from the campaign and I bet the coordinator will be brainwashing the delegates to bend over at the RNC for Romney.

Not only do they not want to win, I feel like they WANT to lose.

dude58677
06-01-2012, 09:10 PM
We did well in Minnesota and a few other states the other weekend. It is threads like these that kill momentum.
The national campaign is the biggest liability for us now. Call me bitter, but if that asshole Benton had kept his mouth shut back couple of weeks ago, we would be winning A LOT now. Benton effectively killed the momentum we had. Noticed how we never won shit after ME and NV? We peaked in ME/NV and then Benton dropped the bomb, as if on purpose. It was all downhill since.

Now watch as Benton and Co. tries to co-opt and coerce all national delegates we do have, to make them "behave" at the convention. Each delegate will have a delegate coordinator from the campaign and I bet the coordinator will be brainwashing the delegates to bend over at the RNC for Romney.

Not only do they not want to win, I feel like they WANT to lose.

Lightweis
06-01-2012, 09:16 PM
The national campaign is the biggest liability for us now. Call me bitter, but if that asshole Benton had kept his mouth shut back couple of weeks ago, we would be winning A LOT now. Benton effectively killed the momentum we had. Noticed how we never won shit after ME and NV? We peaked in ME/NV and then Benton dropped the bomb, as if on purpose. It was all downhill since.

Now watch as Benton and Co. tries to co-opt and coerce all national delegates we do have, to make them "behave" at the convention. Each delegate will have a delegate coordinator from the campaign and I bet the coordinator will be brainwashing the delegates to bend over at the RNC for Romney.

Not only do they not want to win, I feel like they WANT to lose.

AMEN!

seawolf
06-01-2012, 09:17 PM
Lib3rtarian you hit the nail on the head with your post. The Infamous Campaign Press Release definitely had an impact on the dismal showing in Washington tonight. Actually shockingly bad!!!

It is obvious now that the Press Release of May 14th by our Great Campaign Strategists actually boomeranged on the RP Nation.
Ron Paul delegates were obviously demoralized and it is reported that the turnout among RP Supporters at the Convention was not what was hoped or expected.

Add to that, that the Santorum and Gingrich delegates moved to support Romney in huge numbers likely believing that Mitt was the only Active Candidate left to support. Add voila you have Ron Paul getting only 1/3rd of the delegates that were expected tonight.

As I have said the Press Release of May 14th will go down as one of the stupidest and dumbheaded moves made by the Campaign.

Scratch Washington off of one of the five States that can Nominate Ron for President at the GOP Nomination in August.

Pray we get Louisiana and Missouri tomorrow. We must win them both to keep our chances alive!!! This is MUST WIN TIME!!!

MarcusI
06-01-2012, 09:18 PM
Still funy how many believed until a few days ago that Ron Paul can actually win in Tampa. Well, funny is not the right expression due to the seriousness of the situation the United States are in.

Lightweis
06-01-2012, 09:19 PM
The campaign does not want to win. They were handing out fake slates at my convention against me.

Eisenhower
06-01-2012, 09:25 PM
The national campaign is the biggest liability for us now. Call me bitter, but if that asshole Benton had kept his mouth shut back couple of weeks ago, we would be winning A LOT now. Benton effectively killed the momentum we had. Noticed how we never won shit after ME and NV? We peaked in ME/NV and then Benton dropped the bomb, as if on purpose. It was all downhill since.

Now watch as Benton and Co. tries to co-opt and coerce all national delegates we do have, to make them "behave" at the convention. Each delegate will have a delegate coordinator from the campaign and I bet the coordinator will be brainwashing the delegates to bend over at the RNC for Romney.

Not only do they not want to win, I feel like they WANT to lose.

I was referring to Romney's national campaign, not Paul's. It's pretty obvious how the grassroots are doing everything for RP.

Icymudpuppy
06-01-2012, 09:26 PM
WOOT.. WA 3rd District!!! Paul/Santorum Coalition FTW!!!!

In the trenches...!

Once again, I delivered my district. I don't know what's wrong with the rest of Y'all.

Lightweis
06-01-2012, 09:27 PM
WOOT.. WA 3rd District!!! Paul/Santorum Coalition FTW!!!!

In the trenches...!

Once again, I delivered my district. I don't know what's wrong with the rest of Y'all.

Way to GO!

sailingaway
06-01-2012, 09:42 PM
WOOT.. WA 3rd District!!! Paul/Santorum Coalition FTW!!!!

In the trenches...!

Once again, I delivered my district. I don't know what's wrong with the rest of Y'all.

+ rep!!

40oz
06-01-2012, 09:44 PM
WOOT.. WA 3rd District!!! Paul/Santorum Coalition FTW!!!!

In the trenches...!

Once again, I delivered my district. I don't know what's wrong with the rest of Y'all.
'Atta pepper. That's how you do yer!

Britannia
06-01-2012, 10:07 PM
The national campaign is the biggest liability for us now. Call me bitter, but if that asshole Benton had kept his mouth shut back couple of weeks ago, we would be winning A LOT now. Benton effectively killed the momentum we had. Noticed how we never won shit after ME and NV? We peaked in ME/NV and then Benton dropped the bomb, as if on purpose. It was all downhill since.

Now watch as Benton and Co. tries to co-opt and coerce all national delegates we do have, to make them "behave" at the convention. Each delegate will have a delegate coordinator from the campaign and I bet the coordinator will be brainwashing the delegates to bend over at the RNC for Romney.

Not only do they not want to win, I feel like they WANT to lose.

Edited.

thatpeculiarcat
06-01-2012, 10:09 PM
I knew no good would come out of the media reporting that we had already won Washington state, I just knew it.
Bad luck to an extreme.

Fuckin' A.

No1butPaul
06-01-2012, 10:23 PM
TACOMA, Wash. (AP) – Mitt Romney has won more than half of Washington state's delegates so far, winning 24 Friday compared to five secured by U.S. Rep. Ron Paul.
Washington will send 43 delegates to the national convention in Tampa, Fla. In August. http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/story/2012-06-02/mitt-romney-washington-gop-convention/55337780/1

So that's it, huh?

USA Today sure jumped on this story, but I don't recall them ever reporting a Ron Paul win.

romancito
06-01-2012, 10:35 PM
The national campaign is the biggest liability for us now. Call me bitter, but if that asshole Benton had kept his mouth shut back couple of weeks ago, we would be winning A LOT now. Benton effectively killed the momentum we had. Noticed how we never won shit after ME and NV? We peaked in ME/NV and then Benton dropped the bomb, as if on purpose. It was all downhill since.

Now watch as Benton and Co. tries to co-opt and coerce all national delegates we do have, to make them "behave" at the convention. Each delegate will have a delegate coordinator from the campaign and I bet the coordinator will be brainwashing the delegates to bend over at the RNC for Romney.

Not only do they not want to win, I feel like they WANT to lose.

That's what I've been saying since day 1. They going to tell us in a book or two they going to write and for 25 - 30 dollars we will find out what happened that week after Dr. Paul knew that he had a chance of winning the nomination. I have the same thing, fear of heights.

tsai3904
06-01-2012, 11:01 PM
Washington was never a sure win for us. If people understood the process, they would know why.

Washington is one of only 3 caucus states where people elected as Precinct Committee Officers 2 years prior were AUTOMATIC delegates to county conventions. My guess is that Washington has about 1,500 PCOs and probably not more than 20% were Ron Paul supporters. This means that the establishment had a huge head start on us by getting hundreds of people to the county conventions uncontested.

To win/sweep Washington, we had to have won 2 years ago by getting our supporters elected as PCOs.

sailingaway
06-01-2012, 11:22 PM
Washington was never a sure win for us. If people understood the process, they would know why.

Washington is one of only 3 caucus states where people elected as Precinct Committee Officers 2 years prior were AUTOMATIC delegates to county conventions. My guess is that Washington has about 1,500 PCOs and probably not more than 20% were Ron Paul supporters. This means that the establishment had a huge head start on us by getting hundreds of people to the county conventions uncontested.

To win/sweep Washington, we had to have won 2 years ago by getting our supporters elected as PCOs.

As I recall King county appointed a bunch of PCOs after the deadline and the campaign was going to challenge them. Do you know what happened with that? That was the same county where 1000 people 'too many to fit' turned up for caucus and were turned away from voting.

tsai3904
06-01-2012, 11:31 PM
As I recall King county appointed a bunch of PCOs after the deadline and the campaign was going to challenge them. Do you know what happened with that? That was the same county where 1000 people 'too many to fit' turned up for caucus and were turned away from voting.

Looking back at the complaint and response by the WA GOP, it seems like there's nothing the campaign can do. The campaign can allege that people were appointed as PCOs after the deadline but the WA GOP's response is that they appointed a bunch of people before the deadline. I don't know how the campaign can prove that it happened after the deadline.

This is why I can't stress enough that all of us get involved in our local GOP. If we had been the ones in charge, none of this would have happened. We've taken over Iowa and Nevada so there's no reason why we can't do it in other states.

parocks
06-01-2012, 11:34 PM
That's what I've been saying since day 1. They going to tell us in a book or two they going to write and for 25 - 30 dollars we will find out what happened that week after Dr. Paul knew that he had a chance of winning the nomination. I have the same thing, fear of heights.

Also Minnesota.

The official campaign has done a fine job. Our victories, at least in Maine, and I believe Minnesota, were official campaign directed. Our state director in Maine was official campaign and he was on the ground in Maine continuously since about November or December. The state was well organized, and we won 21/21 delegates that were up for grabs. Minnesota had The Collins on the ground. And I don't think he was state director. Minnesota was a clear victory, almost a sweep. And it was directed by the campaign.

Did I miss the primaries and caucuses that we actually won? We decided to believe that the results of the primaries and caucuses didn't really matter. But the Ron Paul campaign did understand that getting soundly beaten in primary after primary with Romney getting over 50% every time was going to result in Romney getting over half the delegates every single time.

What did Benton say? That Ron Paul is basically broke and unable to compete in the upcoming primary states and wouldn't be spending money there. It's a reasonable comment. I haven't yet seen a real indication that voters are at this point, moving to Ron Paul. The race is considered over, most people have considered the race over for a long time. It isn't technically over. A lot could happen in the next 2.5 months. A big scandal. 10 black swan events in a row, all favorable to Ron Paul. But what Benton said really didn't change anything, coulda moved us from 10% to 15% or from 15% to 20%, whatever the case may be. But in either case, we'd need those black swan events.

parocks
06-01-2012, 11:42 PM
We did well in Minnesota and a few other states the other weekend. It is threads like these that kill momentum.

Momentum, threads on RPF have the ability to kill it? And there was momentum when, how, where?

On the other hand, you're right to criticize.

parocks
06-01-2012, 11:44 PM
WOOT.. WA 3rd District!!! Paul/Santorum Coalition FTW!!!!

In the trenches...!

Once again, I delivered my district. I don't know what's wrong with the rest of Y'all.

Good Job!

jtwing85
06-01-2012, 11:52 PM
As I recall King county appointed a bunch of PCOs after the deadline and the campaign was going to challenge them. Do you know what happened with that? That was the same county where 1000 people 'too many to fit' turned up for caucus and were turned away from voting.

That was purely suspicion. They did not find any PCOs who were appointed after the deadline.

romancito
06-01-2012, 11:55 PM
Black swan events. Black swan event was the campaign suddenly shutting down their public relations efforts in all fronts. There has been plenty of black swan events with Romney to hit him hard and keep complaining about the press not taking Dr. Paul's economic forecast seriously giving the dire situation in Europe. With the economic news today, a good pr campaign could show that Dr. Paul is way more qualified than Romney to lead our country forward.

Black swan event seems when suddenly a complete silence from the Ron Paul leadership kinds of accepts that our fate as citizens rests on allowing those in the elite brackets of government influence to dictate to us every which way we must behave.

Having said that, these last two weeks has seen a behavior modification reversal that has been orchestrated brilliantly. I have no idea what it is about and from where and by whom and all the rest of the questions that one could ask but by golly it will be interesting in the future to find out what the heck happened here.

ssjevot
06-02-2012, 12:11 AM
It's been posted, but I just want to thank everyone in the 7th CD for our clean sweep and for being the first CD to finish voting. College students pulled through for Paul.

JK/SEA
06-02-2012, 12:14 AM
whatever. Its looking more and more that i'll be casting my vote for Obama. Fuck the republican party. 4 more years for Obama should get everybody awake by his 7th year...

over and out. Good luck in Tampa.

Rebelrouser
06-02-2012, 01:05 AM
whatever. Its looking more and more that i'll be casting my vote for Obama. Fuck the republican party. 4 more years for Obama should get everybody awake by his 7th year...

over and out. Good luck in Tampa.

If Obeyme wins in November, and given congress's complete unwillingness to act as a separate branch of government and hold the White House accountable, there probably won't be an election in '16. The dollar will collapse under its own weight in which case Obeyme and DHS will most likely put the country under martial law as congress jumps skittishly at the site of its own tail cheering them on all the way.

WhistlinDave
06-02-2012, 01:33 AM
I think it's premature to become pessimistic. Just as it's premature to think Romney has the nomination clinched. The National convention is months away. Nobody is the nominee until the National convention. Nothing anybody says or does can change that fact.

Negativity is usually a self-fulfilling prophesy.

Thoughts become words. Words become actions. Actions become habits. Habits harden into character. And character determines your destiny.

So watch your thoughts... Do not overindulge in "being realistic" because tomorrow's reality does not yet exist. And if you allow yourself to be pessimistic, then you are tainting the reality of what tomorrow will become. Remain optimistic, even if it is cautiously optimistic.

Remaining wishful in your surrender is still surrender. Do you still own your mind, or does the Romney establishment?

I have faith there is a reason for everything, and everything is happening exactly as it should.

Don't give up. Keep working. Keep fighting. Defeat is a solitary sport for the weak minded. Victory is never had by those who give up before they even get close to the finish line.... And we are still nowhere close to Tampa.

lordindra3
06-02-2012, 01:52 AM
Didnt we go into the convention with 50% of national dlegates? From earlier conventions? That's what maddow said! Are we forgetting this? So I thought even if we lost all delegate slots this time, we still cannot have less than 50%? That would mean any district win will push us over!



By the way, do you know why we didn't have people show up? Because Benton told everybody we gave up and not all delegates read Paul blogs an don't know the truth. Benton is so worthless. Why did we give him$300k of our hard earned donations? Romney is still ever more aggressive so he made a focus not to get embarrassed , that plus a little help from cheating establishment means Paul goes in disadvantaged. Meanwhile Benton stated publicly that they will not help because he gave up. Everybody who I know that voted for Paul, but who is not hardcore super Ron Paul fan like me and reads every thing about Paul thinks paul gave up (including my disappointed dad and brother who finally became believers this election. This sucks. Benton betrayed us...

Rebelrouser
06-02-2012, 02:33 AM
The campaign does not want to win. They were handing out fake slates at my convention against me.

You mean for the Virginia 11th? The e-mail I received from Gerry Burde was pretty clear in saying that you and Brandon were the only RP candidates on the ballot. I didn't see the slate being handed out at the convention.

Truthfully I've been speculating about this myself. The Facebook announcement for the last moneybomb strongly indicated that Dr. Paul was ready to ride off into the sunset, so to speak. I can only think of a few reasons for the mixed between-the-lines messages we supporters have been receiving lately:

1. His health is waning and he's not so certain that he can physically handle the Presidency.
2. There are political circumstances we are not being made aware of - possibly threats against him or his family.
3. Despite the incredible progress the campaign's made, he's discouraged and maybe the media and establishment's rhetoric are finally getting to him.
4. This is all just strategy to lay low until Tampa


I'm really hoping its number 4. Regardless, I think I'll call up the headquarters in Springfield soon and see if I can help in any way.

ClydeCoulter
06-02-2012, 04:44 AM
F**k the negativity, no one came this far to quit just before the finish line.
It's right there in front of us, the finish line. Are we 1st, 2nd, what's the truth about Benton? Who knows?
Just go, damn it, go with all you got, for peace sake!

Tinnuhana
06-02-2012, 05:20 AM
How many of you have ever hit the wall? That time in a marathon where your body has used up all the carbs and is starting to eat itself (metaphorically speaking), when you look in windows you pass to see if, indeed, your feet are still moving? The truth is, your feet ARE still moving. And if you don't give in to the feeling that you're at a standstill, you'll finish the race.
A co-worker said to me yesterday that she's had it with the politicking and plans to write in Ron Paul in the general election. That's the first encouraging thing I've heard in a week or so. Please believe that everything you do to get the maximum number of delegates to Tampa and all matters. The veterans of 1988 and 2008 have to take the lead as the the newer people look for guidance and we are all hardened/strengthened by our participation in the process, corrupt as it may be. There are other Thomas Massies and Justin Amashes and Deb Medinas in our midst. Do we care if they pack it in? Or do we care if they learn that with everything against us, we persever and are there for each other.
And maybe, we should take a few minutes to post on Ron's FB page or something, how this past year or so has positivley impacted us personally. Just an idea...

dude58677
06-02-2012, 06:21 AM
F**k the negativity, no one came this far to quit just before the finish line.
It's right there in front of us, the finish line. Are we 1st, 2nd, what's the truth about Benton? Who knows?
Just go, damn it, go with all you got, for peace sake!

This!

RonRules
06-02-2012, 08:10 AM
From now on, concentrate on the election fraud. Don't let Romney get away with anything. Only fund activities related to election fraud. It's not just for Ron Paul, it's for all of us.

No1butPaul
06-02-2012, 09:09 AM
Black swan events. Black swan event was the campaign suddenly shutting down their public relations efforts in all fronts. There has been plenty of black swan events with Romney to hit him hard and keep complaining about the press not taking Dr. Paul's economic forecast seriously giving the dire situation in Europe. With the economic news today, a good pr campaign could show that Dr. Paul is way more qualified than Romney to lead our country forward.

Black swan event seems when suddenly a complete silence from the Ron Paul leadership kinds of accepts that our fate as citizens rests on allowing those in the elite brackets of government influence to dictate to us every which way we must behave.

Having said that, these last two weeks has seen a behavior modification reversal that has been orchestrated brilliantly. I have no idea what it is about and from where and by whom and all the rest of the questions that one could ask but by golly it will be interesting in the future to find out what the heck happened here.

This all happened only 5 days after the meeting w/Bernanke. RP met w/Helicopter Ben on Wed., May 9th and he sent out the PR on Mon., May 14th. I'm just saying, the timing is suspicious. I just am curious where the final money bomb money went, because as far as I can tell, it didn't go into WA or MO, am I wrong about that? There has been a prolonged silence from the campaign leaving us only to speculate here ... that is just really too bad.

paulbot24
06-02-2012, 09:13 AM
F**k the negativity, no one came this far to quit just before the finish line.
It's right there in front of us, the finish line. Are we 1st, 2nd, what's the truth about Benton? Who knows?
Just go, damn it, go with all you got, for peace sake!

Oh hell yes THIS.

sailingaway
06-02-2012, 09:13 AM
F**k the negativity, no one came this far to quit just before the finish line.
It's right there in front of us, the finish line. Are we 1st, 2nd, what's the truth about Benton? Who knows?
Just go, damn it, go with all you got, for peace sake!

this.


we have a primary here in CA on Tuesday, and that's all I can focus on right now (although I will be checking in the convention threads a bit -- best of luck to our delegates!)

No1butPaul
06-02-2012, 09:18 AM
whatever. Its looking more and more that i'll be casting my vote for Obama. Fuck the republican party. 4 more years for Obama should get everybody awake by his 7th year...

over and out. Good luck in Tampa.

I'm not sure what I will do if it comes down to this. Part of me has come to hate the GOP so much for everything they did to RP and us, but I can't vote out of spite. I've kind of narrowed it down to this: Obama = socialism + bankruptcy and Romney = World War III + bankruptcy. The powers that be are just hell bent on bankrupting our country, but that being equal, I'd prefer not to go into World War III. So, that would pretty much leave me @ Obama. Having said that, obviously, this hasn't played out yet and I would want to see where our numbers will make the biggest difference and if we, as a group, can reach any kind of consensus. I know the consensus was always to write-in RP, but I can see our numbers really splintering among G.Johnson, write-in, Obama ... and I think to the least extent, Romney. It would be such a shame for us to lose the power of our numbers.

You may be right, maybe we need this for people to finally wake up. sigh. This is what we are dealing with (update: @ present 1626.30):


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gk5aRIz17fk

ronpaulhawaii
06-02-2012, 09:18 AM
F**k the negativity, no one came this far to quit just before the finish line.
It's right there in front of us, the finish line. Are we 1st, 2nd, what's the truth about Benton? Who knows?
Just go, damn it, go with all you got, for peace sake!


This!


Oh hell yes THIS.


this.


we have a primary here in CA on Tuesday, and that's all I can focus on right now (although I will be checking in the convention threads a bit -- best of luck to our delegates!)

^^^ and that, too!

SilenceDewgooder
06-02-2012, 09:33 AM
So, that would pretty much leave me @ Obama.

A vote for a lesser evil is still a vote for evil (personally think both are given the same agenda regardless, so there really isn't a 'lesser' evil). WWRPD?, I think we know he would stand on principle and convictions. Can you not do the same?

AmericasLastHope
06-02-2012, 11:26 AM
What are the latest updates?

No1butPaul
06-02-2012, 11:36 AM
Can you not do the same?

I am concerned about the neo-cons getting us into World War III and I really don't think you should be placing judgement on me for that. As I said, I am still waiting to see how things play out though ... not looking to get into disputes with other Ron Paul supporters. There are enough people on the "outside" with whom to have disagreements.

tsai3904
06-02-2012, 11:47 AM
What are the latest updates?

259 candidates are vying for 10 at-large delegate spots. Each candidate is given 30 seconds to make a speech.

SilenceDewgooder
06-02-2012, 11:53 AM
I am concerned about the neo-cons getting us into World War III and I really don't think you should be placing judgement on me for that.

Judge nothing, question everything. A vote for Obama or Romney or even the thought of it seems to be a conformity vote for the current path in which we are headed. If this is the majority opinion in this forum, I think I'm in the wrong place.

alucard13mmfmj
06-02-2012, 12:22 PM
259 candidates are vying for 10 at-large delegate spots. Each candidate is given 30 seconds to make a speech.

I am a delegate for Romney so I can feel awesome and patriotic when Romney gets the nomination because TV told me he is in first place. I can feel like a winner. I am important cause I voted for the winner. Thank you.

No1butPaul
06-02-2012, 12:28 PM
Judge nothing, question everything. A vote for Obama or Romney or even the thought of it seems to be a conformity vote for the current path in which we are headed. If this is the majority opinion in this forum, I think I'm in the wrong place.

LOL - I am hardly the majority! Just an individual.

SilenceDewgooder
06-02-2012, 12:48 PM
LOL - I am hardly the majority! Just an individual.

Well other individuals like yourself have made statements like "4 more years of Obama is better than 8 years of Romney" in the context that we can have someone like Paul elected in 2016 and someone else made the statement that 'The Paul campaign quit weeks ago'.

Then the individual with the screen name 'No1butPaul' talks about voting for Obama. All these statements were posted today.

Do you understand my concern for the objective of this forum?

No1butPaul
06-02-2012, 12:59 PM
Well other individuals like yourself have made statements like "4 more years of Obama is better than 8 years of Romney" in the context that we can have someone like Paul elected in 2016 and someone else made the statement that 'The Paul campaign quit weeks ago'.

Then the individual with the screen name 'No1butPaul' talks about voting for Obama. All these statements were posted today.

Do you understand my concern for the objective of this forum?

Well, first you misrepresent my words. Second, yes, I see the irony in my ID and Obama statement; however, since I created my ID (in January) I have listened to repeated saber rattling & war drumming from Romney & the GOP. Frankly, it concerns me deeply. It seems clear the objective from the establishment is to hasten the collapse to usher in whatever they have planned (Ron Paul stated they want to come up with a global currency) ... if Ron Paul doesn't get the nomination, I have to consider this. Making a statement will not go towards helping to prevent WWIII. Much to consider ... waiting to see what happens. In the meantime, just trying to make sure my house is in order; would suggest e1 do the same. http://www.businessinsider.com/raoul-pal-the-end-game-2012-6

No1butPaul
06-02-2012, 01:21 PM
7,000 + views???????

anaconda
06-02-2012, 06:10 PM
Cindy Honcoop @waeagles

#WA01 delegate ballot finally in with a Romney sweep #WAGOP


I thought we were supposed to own Washington.