Rand's demands from Romney & the GOP establishment

[Galileo Galilei]

Rand's demands from Romney & the GOP establishment


"[Rand] Paul wants platform provisions that call for prohibiting indefinite detention, protecting internet freedom and limiting the power of the Federal Reserve. There are other items on his wish list, but those are priorities."


http://hotair.com/archives/2012/05/25/hmmm-romney-huddles-with-rand-paul-to-talk-policy/

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[devil21]

Good planks but I hope he isn't expecting them to actually follow it.

[sailingaway]

Good planks but I hope he isn't expecting them to actually follow it.

We already know Romney will say anything to get elected, because he has.

[Galileo Galilei]

Good planks but I hope he isn't expecting them to actually follow it.

Who is them? Justin Amash? Massie? Mike Lee? The Paul faction has a majority is about 10 states so far. If the national platform agrees with the Paul faction, it will benefit those pro-liberty activists in those 10 states. It will help all pro-liberty candidates who run fo office, they can cite the GOP platform if they face internal resistance from the platform.

And the platform can be used to ostracize those stubborn GOP hacks who refuse to change.

[Galileo Galilei]

We already know Romney will say anything to get elected, because he has.

GOP planks are written down, not just spoken. It is the same reason why oral contracts are dangerous and you want to get it in writing.

[sailingaway]

except contracts, including some oral contracts, are enforceable.

[Galileo Galilei]

except contracts, including some oral contracts, are enforceable.

Good, then we will get Romney to agree orally with Rand's demands, and then hold him to it.

[Lucille]

I'm sure the warmonger police statists at hotair don't like the anti-indefinite detention part of that at all. If they knew the Fed funded their glorious, endless Islamic theocracy-building wars, they wouldn't like that either.

[Matt Collins]

Good planks but I hope he isn't expecting them to actually follow it.You must've missed the piece on what leverage Rand has over Mitt Romney: http://www.salon.com/2012/05/25/rand_paul’s_leverage_with_mitt/singleton/

[RickyJ]

You must've missed the piece on what leverage Rand has over Mitt Romney: http://www.salon.com/2012/05/25/rand_paul’s_leverage_with_mitt/singleton/

A liberal rag writes pieces like this to motivate their base to get out and vote for Obama. There is not much truth to it at all, it is just a scare tactic. Romney will be just as liberal as Obama is now if he wins, there will be no difference.

[Galileo Galilei]

A liberal rag writes pieces like this to motivate their base to get out and vote for Obama. There is not much truth to it at all, it is just a scare tactic. Romney will be just as liberal as Obama is now if he wins, there will be no difference.

That's Romney's problem. If he does not acquiesce to the pro-liberty forces, he will lose. If he does acquiesce, then the pro-liberty forces win and the Revolution takes a big step forward at the expense of the New World Order.

[thoughtomator]

If Romney actually commits to these publicly he may well follow through on them. He'll just be an atrocious horror on every other policy.

[Galileo Galilei]

If Romney actually commits to these publicly he may well follow through on them. He'll just be an atrocious horror on every other policy.

That's what King Louis XVI of France thought when he committed to some reforms. When the NWO does that, the Revolution gains momentum and soon new demands are made.

[Feeding the Abscess]

The quote is actually attributed to Ron Paul's campaign and what they're discussing vis a vis the rest of campaign and convention, not Rand Paul.

[Matt Collins]

A liberal rag writes pieces like this to motivate their base to get out and vote for Obama. There is not much truth to it at all, it is just a scare tactic. Romney will be just as liberal as Obama is now if he wins, there will be no difference.You have no way to know "there is no truth to it at all" :rolleyes:

It makes perfect sense and could be strategically sound.

[puppetmaster]

Sorry platforms are only as good as the people under it. Romney will and does not care about the platform. Only ethical people do

[puppetmaster]

That's Romney's problem. If he does not acquiesce to the pro-liberty forces, he will lose. If he does acquiesce, then the pro-liberty forces win and the Revolution takes a big step forward at the expense of the New World Order. he will pander to us then ignore us if he wins GUARANTEED.

NO ONE BUT PAUL.

[Drex]

he will pander to us then ignore us if he wins GUARANTEED.

NO ONE BUT PAUL.

Damn right.

NO ONE BUT (RON) PAUL

[ctiger2]

Rand hasn't figured out politicians will lie and or pander to get anything?

[Galileo Galilei]

he will pander to us then ignore us if he wins GUARANTEED.

NO ONE BUT PAUL.

You don't seem to understand that the liberty movement is past the begging stage. Rand is not a beggar, he is a power player.

[Matt Collins]

he will pander to us then ignore us if he wins GUARANTEED. We have the leverage to hold him accountable. Again, see the Salon link I posted above.

[Voluntary Man]

platform, shatform.

platform concessions are of next to zero value, when forced upon a party that routinely ignores its country's governing document.

to place this in perspective, let's view it through the microcosm of the school system: assume you were running for superintendent of schools, and your political rival offered you, as an incentive for supporting him, a position on the prom's decorating committee; would you be insulted or boastful?

[Galileo Galilei]

platform, shatdorm.

platform concessions are of next to zero value, when forced upon a party that routinely ignores its counties governing document, which its members actually pledge to uphold, unlike the platform. it is merely window dressing on a broken window. the entire structures is collapsing, and some people are obsessed with the curtains. let's secure the actual structure, before we redecorate. to place this in perspective, let's view it through the microcosm of the school system: assume you were running for superintendent of schools, and you political rival offered you, as an incentive for supporting him, a position on the prom's decorating committee; would you be insulted or boastful?

Great since they are zero value, that means all the Romney folk will gladly agree to any changes we want right?

[Voluntary Man]

Great since they are zero value, that means all the Romney folk will gladly agree to any changes we want right?

perhaps, but if that's all we get, then we'll have sold our birthright for a bowl of thin soup.

[Galileo Galilei]

perhaps, but if that's all we get, then we'll have sold our birthright for a bowl of thin soup.

That's not all we got.

[Voluntary Man]

That's not all we got.

show us your goodies, then.

[Matt Collins]

platform concessions are of next to zero value,Yes of course, unless you have the power to enforce them; right now we do.

[RickyJ]

Yes of course, unless you have the power to enforce them; right now we do.

How do you plan on enforcing them?

[RickyJ]

We have the leverage to hold him accountable. Again, see the Salon link I posted above.

You think an article written on a liberal news site with the intention to motivate their base to get out and vote is real leverage and power?

They know it is bull crap, they just want to get people out to vote for Obama. Romney will be virtually no different than Obama except he will be a lot whiter.

[BamaFanNKy]

Wanna see what can happen if you promise to do something and go against it? See how affective John Boehner has been recently.

[Voluntary Man]

Yes of course, unless you have the power to enforce them; right now we do.

I'm sure you believe that....

[Voluntary Man]

That's not all we got.

still waiting.

[Matt Collins]

How do you plan on enforcing them?

You think an article written on a liberal news site with the intention to motivate their base to get out and vote is real leverage and power? No, but the fact that it is being mentioned that Rand could potentially primary President Romney from the right will cause them to take us very seriously.

[Aratus]

Rand's demands from Romney & the GOP establishment


"[Rand] Paul wants platform provisions that call for prohibiting indefinite detention, protecting internet freedom and limiting the power of the Federal Reserve. There are other items on his wish list, but those are priorities."


http://hotair.com/archives/2012/05/25/hmmm-romney-huddles-with-rand-paul-to-talk-policy/

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tampa, yes!

[carclinic]

Good planks but I hope he isn't expecting them to actually follow it.
Bingo! Expecting a RINO to actually follow through on anything conservative is lunacy.

[Zach Vega]

Rand's demands from Romney & the GOP establishment

"[Rand] Paul wants platform provisions that call for prohibiting indefinite detention, protecting internet freedom and limiting the power of the Federal Reserve. There are other items on his wish list, but those are priorities.

:cool:

Ron Paul is in it to win the nomination, not to change the platform. Who even looks at party platforms?

[jkr]

4 realz!
this aint over yet.

[Galileo Galilei]

Ron Paul is in it to win the nomination, not to change the platform. Who even looks at party platforms?

In other words you are saying Ron Paul is just like Romney and every other politician; he just wants to win, and does not care about educating the public.

[Aratus]

having platform planking in place as in previous and prior
is actually a good idea. lets back rand in this, people!!!

[July]

I don't know if the party platform matters on the presidential level...or at least, no one seems to ever follow it, and that has always been part of the problem. But if it matters on a local state party level, where newer Republicans are educated by it and run races based on it, then it is a good thing to strive for, I think.