Screw banks!

[Elwar]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=5CrOKDOyW-Y#!



http://screwbanks.net/

[heavenlyboy34]

I have yet to see a store that accepts bitcoins. When these things are universally accepted, I'll consider them.

[cheapseats]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=5CrOKDOyW-Y#!



http://screwbanks.net/


PEER-TO-PEER LENDING is key to undoing the banking cartel stranglehold.

Did I correctly read that, if Ron Paul loses, YOUR plan is to go to AFGHANISTAN...and scoot with some loot while the gettin's still good?

[Elwar]

Did I correctly read that, if Ron Paul loses, YOUR plan is to go to AFGHANISTAN...and scoot with some loot while the gettin's still good?

That is the plan.

Not to live in Afghanistan but to profit off of the military industrial complex that will continue to thrive in an Obamney regime.

As someone once told me..."the more money you have, the less shit you have to eat"

[Elwar]

I have yet to see a store that accepts bitcoins. When these things are universally accepted, I'll consider them.

My wife's store accepts Bitcoins.

http://www.bit-pay.com created a very simple phone app that allows for easy POS transactions.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=YZ-pqo0cLcE

[cheapseats]

That is the plan.

Not to live in Afghanistan but to profit off of the military industrial complex that will continue to thrive in an Obamney regime.


Niiiice.

got principles?






As someone once told me..."the more money you have, the less shit you have to eat"


'Tis true that more money means HAVING TO eat less shit. 'Tis not necessarily true that people with more money eat LESS shit.

DIFFERENT shit, absolutely.

One of the most distinguishing things about people is WHETHER THEY WILL SCREW OVER OTHER PEOPLE to get money.

[Elwar]

Niiiice.

got principles?



I have worked for the DoD since I left college. Doing the same thing I do here but in Afghanistan gives me a significant pay increase.

My grandparents fled Poland during WWII to find some place more free. That is my plan as well.

The people of the US were given the option of freedom...TWICE...and they turned it down.

My escape plan is either Costa Rica or http://www.seasteading.org both which will require enough money to leave my job and relocate.


I would have welcomed Ron Paul getting elected and putting me out of a job. As it stands, the people of America want to keep paying my salary.

[cheapseats]

I have worked for the DoD since I left college.

Who approached whom?




I would have welcomed Ron Paul getting elected and putting me out of a job. As it stands, the people of America want to keep paying my salary.


And you are willing to ACCEPT it. Willing to work for the dreaded Military Industrial Complex, in exchange for money.

It is easy enough to see WHICH CAME FIRST . . . the people's WILLINGNESS to fund the schemes of Schemers created the Department, the Industry, the Jobs.

It is not so easy to say whether Payers or Payees PERPETUATE THE TRAVESTY.

I WOULD have welcomed Peace, had War not been so gosh-darn LUCRATIVE. Person's gotta eat. Person's gotta pay the bills.

Unless they are collateral damage in Afghanistan, then they DON'T.

[Elwar]

Who approached whom?

I had my resume out on the Internet my senior year and a company called SRI (Stanford Research Institute) called me up and hired me.





And you are willing to ACCEPT it. Willing to work for the dreaded Military Industrial Complex, in exchange for money.

It is easy enough to see WHICH CAME FIRST . . . the people's WILLINGNESS to fund the schemes of Schemers created the Department, the Industry, the Jobs.

It is not so easy to say whether Payers or Payees PERPETUATE THE TRAVESTY.

I WOULD have welcomed Peace, had War not been so gosh-darn LUCRATIVE. Person's gotta eat. Person's gotta pay the bills.

Unless they are collateral damage in Afghanistan, then they DON'T.

That is how it works. Though most people who are getting paid will perpetuate it because they do not want to lose that precious money. I have fought against it since Harry Browne and Irwin Schiff clued me in on the whole thing.

[heavenlyboy34]

My wife's store accepts Bitcoins.

http://www.bit-pay.com created a very simple phone app that allows for easy POS transactions.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=YZ-pqo0cLcE
I am impress! :)

[TonySutton]

bit pay may be the thing that moves bit coin above the competition, very impressive

[KCIndy]

My escape plan is either Costa Rica or http://www.seasteading.org both which will require enough money to leave my job and relocate.



If I had to choose between the two, I would go with Costa Rica - it's big enough you can't sink it with a torpedo. ;)

[cheapseats]

I had my resume out on the Internet my senior year and a company called SRI (Stanford Research Institute) called me up and hired me.

Big Ivy League.

But as you word it, you seem not to be a player in it.

They contacted you, made an offer and you accepted.




That is how it works.

And you are workin' it.

At least you ADMIT it.




Though most people who are getting paid will perpetuate it because they do not want to lose that precious money.

Including you.




I have fought against it since Harry Browne and Irwin Schiff clued me in on the whole thing.

Fightin' from the INSIDE.

Where the paychecks are.

[matt0611]

If someone starts making bitcoins backed by gold or silver. (i.e I can trade my bitcoins to the central authority token creation authority in exchange for gold or silver) I'll get some.

Why would I want to trade my unbacked FRNs for unbacked electronic tokens? They don't give me much confidence.

[Elwar]

Why would I want to trade my unbacked FRNs for unbacked electronic tokens? They don't give me much confidence.

And what are gold and silver backed by?

[ghengis86]

And what are gold and silver backed by?

Thousands of years of history?

Regardless, fuck the criminal bankers and their bought and paid for politicians. That is all.

[Elwar]

Including you.

In what way am I perpetuating big government? Do explain.

[ghengis86]

And what are gold and silver backed by?

Thousands of years of history?

Regardless, fuck the criminal bankers and their bought and paid for politicians. That is all.

[matt0611]

And what are gold and silver backed by?

The gold and/or silver is the backing and doesn't need to be backed. It makes no sense to ask what "backs" gold.

What backs steel, ice cream, cars, etc?

[Uncle Emanuel Watkins]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=5CrOKDOyW-Y#!



http://screwbanks.net/



The two worst persecutors of the people are the banking capitalists and the social communists. Watkinsian theory solves the problem by checks and balances, limiting both socialism and bank corruption by the implementation of social communism solely in the banking system. As is typical, the socialists are going to cut the heads off of the villagers to encourage them on a path towards their own best interests regarding happiness; meanwhile, the bankers are going to cheat them out of everything once they get there.
In the Watkinsian theory of economics, everyone working in the banking system from top to bottom receives the same exact wage with no perks, bonuses or benefits of any kind. In other words, in order to kill socialism, only the banking system becomes communist.
There is no perfect solution other than a narrowing towards a bipartisan solution.
If this evil continues regarding banking, our nation is going to adopt socialism.

[Elwar]

The gold and/or silver is the backing and doesn't need to be backed.

Same with Bitcoins.

The same reason that gold has been used as a currency is what makes Bitcoins good.

The supply is moderately predictable, it is not controlled by a central authority and it is fungible.


Bitcoins do have a benefit over gold though:


easy to transfer
easy to secure
easy to verify
easy to granulate

Gold does have benefits over Bitcoins:

Tangible, a long history as a currency, and a use outside of just a currency (though that can also be a weakness as those uses fluctuate). Also, until around 2021 Bitcoin will have an ever shrinking inflation rate. The inflation rate built in is currently at 35% but adoption has been keeping up with that rate for the past several months. That rate is halved in December and will keep dropping until around 2021 when the supply reaches its maximum.

Bitcoin is also new enough that it is not widely traded enough to the point that someone with $10 million can come into the market and skew the price one way or the other.

[hazek]

I am impress! :)

Have you seen this??:

http://www.wtcr.ca/ and http://coinabul.com/

and those are just two off the top of my head.. ;)

[hazek]

Also bitcoins just got a hell of a lot more convinient to get:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=83209.20

700.000 cash deposit locations world wide you got to admit is pretty impressive!

[Elwar]

Also bitcoins just got a hell of a lot more convinient to get:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=83209.20

700.000 cash deposit locations world wide you got to admit is pretty impressive!

This is huge...you can deposit money for Bitcoin all over the place, including Walmart.


They are also working on the same system of doing a Bitcoin to cash withdrawal the same way.

This means you can deposit cash at Walmart, send Bitcoin to anyone else in the world, they can go into their own Walmart and turn that into cash. Instant competitor to Western Union.

[heavenlyboy34]

Have you seen this??:

http://www.wtcr.ca/ and http://coinabul.com/

and those are just two off the top of my head.. ;)
I haven't. I am impress! I will keep an eye on this stuff. As more vendors accept bitcoin, I'll be more inclined to use it. (especially amazon and ebay)

[Elwar]

(especially amazon and ebay)

Amazon: https://www.spendbitcoins.com/convert/amazon/

E-bay (sorta, no fees!): http://bitmit.net/