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Anti Federalist
05-18-2012, 12:31 AM
We get one thing right and then fuck up the next thing here in NH.

FFS, can somebody please explain the logic of this, if there is any.


Senate backs including fetus death in homicide law

May 17, 2012|Holly Ramer, Associated Press

http://articles.boston.com/2012-05-17/news/31751849_1_fetus-death-pregnant-woman-fetal-deaths

A bill that would make causing the death of a fetus a homicide passed the Senate on Thursday, but it cannot become law until it resolves differences with the House over how old the fetus should be before charges can be filed.

The Senate and House have both voted in favor of charging someone with first-degree murder, second-degree-murder or negligent homicide for causing a pregnant woman to lose her fetus. The legislation would make exceptions made for medical procedures such as abortion.

James Madison
05-18-2012, 12:55 AM
The Senate and House have both voted in favor of charging someone with first-degree murder, second-degree-murder or negligent homicide for causing a pregnant woman to lose her fetus. The legislation would make exceptions made for medical procedures such as abortion.

Uhhhh.......

So, if you're being charged with killing a pregnant woman's fetus you should tell the judge you were just trying to perform an abortion? Would that work?

Anti Federalist
05-18-2012, 12:57 AM
Uhhhh.......

So, if you're being charged with killing a pregnant woman's fetus you should tell the judge you were just trying to perform an abortion? Would that work?

I guess.

I suppose if I smoked some guy with a homemade missile and called him a "terrorist" I might skate as well.

tod evans
05-18-2012, 04:55 AM
When are these folks going to learn that more laws aren't the answer?

Too many laws and too many legislators are what got us here, now they're admitting that they need to rectify the "newest" law with some of the older ones.

WTF?

XxNeXuSxX
05-18-2012, 05:13 AM
Obviously this was the agreement with the neocons in the senate. This is aleady dead on arrival; we have no legal definition to prove "premeditated" murder of something the Feds don't consider alive. Abortion police aren't going to help this problem. And neither is life in prison.

phill4paul
05-18-2012, 05:35 AM
So....

Only the state has "Qualified Immunity" when it comes to infanticide and electro-torture. Got it. 'All animals are equal. Some more than others."

tod evans
05-18-2012, 05:42 AM
"Qualified immunity"......the most cowardly, despicable words in american jurisprudence.



So....

Only the state has "Qualified Immunity" when it comes to infanticide and electro-torture. Got it. 'All animals are equal. Some more than others."

rockerrockstar
05-18-2012, 06:34 AM
What about death of fetus caused by car wreck. I would think that should not count as a homicide. If it is not intentional.

FindLiberty
05-18-2012, 07:54 AM
What about death of fetus caused by car wreck...

Explore Fetuscide law:

Good question: That might be called involuntary vehicular fetal homicide (if a fetus dies in car wreck). Maybe the mother should not have been driving or riding in a car at all, placing the fetus at risk. How about that seatbelt that was the actual “murder weapon”? Who supplied it? Who buckled it?

Would that fetus have survived if the mother was unbuckled and her head absorbed most of the impact instead as it smashed into the windshield?

What about the doctor performing amniocentesis, since that (rarely) triggers a spontaneous abortion?

Of course, special exceptions are required for police action. e.g., police order motorists to form a road block to stop a fleeing suspect. What if the suspect had crashed his car into a random pregnant motorist’s car instead of that student driver's car? Of course the police cannot be charged as an accessory to fetuscide, because they’re the government, and you’re not.

How about when police punched that pregnant woman in stomach? In that recently reported case, it did not seem to harm the fetus, but if it had been killed as a result of a spontaneous abortion, who would be responsible? If that had happened, they would probably say it’s not homicide, it was just collateral damage (and some is to be expected while maintaining order).

Maybe NH needs more laws to fine tune this new law and to further automate their new “legal” cage filler. Maybe that’s too harsh because the “guilty” may be able to “get off” without serving significant cage time by simply paying the state a substantial fine.

It's important for the state to protect future tax slaves and maintain their numbers...