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Anti Federalist
05-16-2012, 11:47 PM
My answer too.

Would I Vote for Romney?

Posted by Laurence Vance on May 16, 2012 07:56 PM

http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/112237.html

I have been asked on more than one occasion if I would vote for Romney to keep Obama out of office for a second term.

Here is my answer:

1. I don't vote unless the candidate is named Ron Paul.

2. Voting for Romney is like voting for Hitler to keep out Stalin or voting for Stalin to keep out Hitler (N.B. I am not comparing Obama or Romney to Hitler or Stalin; they haven't gotten as many people killed—yet).

3. Romney is, as Lew Rockwell recently wrote, "a corporate statist, a follower of the neocons, a war monger, a welfarist, an advocate of torture, concentration camps, the surveillance state, and the all-powerful presidency." This means he is just like Gingrich, Santorum, McCain, and Bush. If I were going to vote Republican to keep out Obama, then it would make no difference which Republican jerk was the candidate.

4. I have a greater chance of getting struck by lighting than my vote for Romney against Obama amounting to anything.

5. The lesser of two evils is still evil (and that is assuming that Romney is the lesser of two evils, which is debatable).

bunklocoempire
05-17-2012, 12:20 AM
Here, let me get this one for ya..

NOBP!!

..and one for myself..

NOBP!!

lol at the 'lightning' quip. Heck, lightning is safer imo -it doesn't stick around like evil policy does.

alucard13mmfmj
05-17-2012, 01:36 AM
hmmm stalin or hitler... which would you choose?

rp08orbust
05-17-2012, 02:36 AM
I only vote for Ron Paul or in self-defense.

If Hitler and Stalin both had terminal illnesses, only Hitler had 4 years to live while Stalin had 8, I'd vote for Hitler.

Obama only has 4 years left, while Romney would have up to 8 years as president. Thus, if I lived in a swing state where my vote made a difference, I'd vote for Obama.

DamianTV
05-17-2012, 02:58 AM
Albert Einstein once said that there were only two things that were Infinite; The Universe, and the Stupidity of People. He wasnt completely sure about The Universe. A vote for Romney, Obama, Hitler or Stalin is the embodiment of Einstein's Universal Truth.

Indy Vidual
05-17-2012, 05:34 AM
If Mitt loses it should be better for Rand 2016, but I would not imagine myself voting for O

VanBummel
05-17-2012, 06:03 AM
Heading to the GA state convention tomorrow as a delegate. Time to practice my war face:

http://oi47.tinypic.com/21j9auf.jpg

Anti Federalist
05-17-2012, 10:32 AM
Heading to the GA state convention tomorrow as a delegate. Time to practice my war face:

http://oi47.tinypic.com/21j9auf.jpg

Epic.

I have a thing for "meme faces", they crack me up.

We'll be seeing that again.

+rep

Feeding the Abscess
05-17-2012, 11:55 PM
Ron Paul-approved and promoted author.

Just want to hammer that home for the lurkers.

donnay
05-18-2012, 12:11 AM
http://t.qkme.me/3pc9wa.jpg

Eisenhower
05-18-2012, 12:17 AM
NO ONE BUT PAUL

well_met_sir
05-18-2012, 12:47 AM
In 2008 people in all 50 states voted for Paul. These votes were counted in 3 states. In the other 47 states they were thrown away, never counted.

A write-in is not a vote, it is just a waste of your time. It will not be recorded.

Obviously our goal is to get Paul onto the ballot and then vote for him. If Paul is not on the ballot then there are four options, each with a decent justification:

Gary Johnson: a good guy and your vote will be recorded. You might not agree with him 100% but he's not going to win so does it really matter? The point of voting for Johnson is to register your dissatisfaction with the other two. The Republican base will see Johnson's 5% and start taking liberty candidates seriously. A strong showing by Gary Johnson in 2012 practically guarantee's Rand Paul's nomination in 2016. Yes Rand Paul isn't perfect either, but I don't think that Ron Paul plans on running in 2016.

Stay home: no need to waste your time or gas. Very efficient and almost as effective as voting. (because voting isn't that effective).

Obama: horrible president who will trash the country, but at least it will be his last term.

Romney: a little better than Obama and will appoint better judges. The downside is that he can do two terms.

Anti Federalist
05-18-2012, 12:55 AM
(because voting isn't that effective)

You contradict yourself.

Voting isn't effective, agreed, and the votes are not counted anymore without some level of "shenanigans".

So why should I worry myself about the other options?

Folks can do whatever they please, Johnson, or some other third party or even Obama if that's their flavor.

I'll have no truck with the Romney wobblies, just like I had no patience with the McCain wobblies last go around.

And trust me, as it gets close, there will be a bunch of them, right here.

I just don't care, I will not vote for a machine GOP candidate.

No One But Paul.

Period.

Kiwi4Liberty
05-18-2012, 01:17 AM
Someone do a newbie a favour and post the picture of Batman slapping Robin. No One But Paul!!!

That always cracks me up that one.

Seriously though if I was there, and Dr Paul didn't get the nomination. I'd vote for Gary Johnson. The people on here
saying they'd vote for Obama are nuts! Same as all the sheeple.

UtahApocalypse
05-18-2012, 01:21 AM
A write-in is not a vote, it is just a waste of your time. It will not be recorded.

Being able to sleep at night and face my baby girl for the rest of her life knowing I TRIED to save her future is worth a vote wasted by the state.


Oh and also FUCK Gary Johnson

Anti Federalist
05-18-2012, 01:25 AM
Someone do a newbie a favour and post the picture of Batman slapping Robin. No One But Paul!!!

That always cracks me up that one.

Seriously though if I was there, and Dr Paul didn't get the nomination. I'd vote for Gary Johnson. The people on here
saying they'd vote for Obama are nuts! Same as all the sheeple.

Wish I could find that, maybe somebody else will have better luck.

http://thomashunter.name/batman-comic/gen/20120518192818_4fb7054244bd0.jpg

outspoken
05-18-2012, 05:27 AM
Albert Einstein once said that there were only two things that were Infinite; The Universe, and the Stupidity of People. He wasnt completely sure about The Universe. A vote for Romney, Obama, Hitler or Stalin is the embodiment of Einstein's Universal Truth.

Einstein was a devote socialist thus the irony of this statement in terms of the pot calling the kettle black. He was a scientific genius no doubt but failed to respect the inherent flaws with socialism due to human nature and economic theory.

Elwar
05-18-2012, 05:32 AM
I always say that my single vote does nothing unless I go to work every day wearing a long black robe. Florida proved that in 2000.



What does count is those people who are advocates and go out to influence people's votes. When you are doing something that gets a candidate 20-100 votes, then your vote matters.

well_met_sir
05-18-2012, 11:12 AM
Anti Federalist: I did not contradict myself. I suggest that you get some practice reading, maybe a continuing education program.

UtahApocalypse: Writing-in a name is not a vote. It is not trying to save your daughter's future. It is a purely self-indulgent, guilt-assuaging, symbolic gesture. If you are going to vote then go ahead and actually vote, don't just pretend that you are voting. If Paul is not on the ballot a vote for Paul will be no different than a prayer to Athena. Athena isn't real and can't hear your prayers. Likewise if Paul is not on the ballot your "vote" isn't recorded in a tally anywhere. It goes straight to the trash. If you still want to "vote" for Paul then why not stay home and do it? Grab a sheet of paper and write "Ron Paul" on it and then ceremoniously throw it into a box.

Elwar: nice to hear some sanity.

No Free Beer
05-18-2012, 11:36 AM
In 2008 people in all 50 states voted for Paul. These votes were counted in 3 states. In the other 47 states they were thrown away, never counted.

A write-in is not a vote, it is just a waste of your time. It will not be recorded.

Obviously our goal is to get Paul onto the ballot and then vote for him. If Paul is not on the ballot then there are four options, each with a decent justification:

Gary Johnson: a good guy and your vote will be recorded. You might not agree with him 100% but he's not going to win so does it really matter? The point of voting for Johnson is to register your dissatisfaction with the other two. The Republican base will see Johnson's 5% and start taking liberty candidates seriously. A strong showing by Gary Johnson in 2012 practically guarantee's Rand Paul's nomination in 2016. Yes Rand Paul isn't perfect either, but I don't think that Ron Paul plans on running in 2016.

Stay home: no need to waste your time or gas. Very efficient and almost as effective as voting. (because voting isn't that effective).

Obama: horrible president who will trash the country, but at least it will be his last term.

Romney: a little better than Obama and will appoint better judges. The downside is that he can do two terms.

If you actually look at the numbers as a whole, your vote doesn't mean shit anyway, regardless of who you vote for.

Since that's the case, I'll vote Paul. Thank you.

jmdrake
05-18-2012, 03:09 PM
I hate to admit it, and stone me later, but I would vote of Romney if Dr. Paul was on the ticket. I wouldn't want the establishment to be able to say "See? We told you Ron Paul couldn't beat Obama. He killed Romney's chances." It's just like the fact that McCain's candidacy was doomed from the start, but the MSM blamed Palin. I'd rather Paul not be on the ticket and Romney lose than for Romney to lose with him on the ticket. That said, I have no doubt Romney will pick some big government pro war neocon like Rubio or Santorum.

Sam I am
05-18-2012, 03:15 PM
ITT:

Hero worship


I voted for Ron Paul in the primary, and if he gets the Republican Nomination, I'd vote for him, but a "No one but [insert name here]" mentality is incredibly dangerous to the concept of liberty.

speciallyblend
05-18-2012, 03:51 PM
ITT:

Hero worship


I voted for Ron Paul in the primary, and if he gets the Republican Nomination, I'd vote for him, but a "No one but [insert name here]" mentality is incredibly dangerous to the concept of liberty.

ok anyone that isn't romney or obama:) lesser of 2 evil is evil.

DamianTV
05-18-2012, 06:41 PM
People still seem to react to elections as if it were gambling. Too many times have I heard the excuse of not voting for someone because they dont have a chance of winning. It is that type of mentality that causes more problems than it fixes. It shows that the person wants to be a follower and doesnt care whether or not their voice is heard and recognized, it shows they are just trying to bet on the person they think is going to win. This isnt gambling. You dont win anything by guessing which candidate has the best chance of winning. Worst thing is that it sets everyone else back one more vote.

If youre going to vote only to try to say who you think the winner will be, you probably should choose to not vote.

Anti Federalist
05-18-2012, 08:32 PM
Someone do a newbie a favour and post the picture of Batman slapping Robin. No One But Paul!!!

That always cracks me up that one.

Seriously though if I was there, and Dr Paul didn't get the nomination. I'd vote for Gary Johnson. The people on here
saying they'd vote for Obama are nuts! Same as all the sheeple.

Wish I could find that, maybe somebody else will have better luck.

http://thomashunter.name/batman-comic/gen/20120518192818_4fb7054244bd0.jpg