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libertygrl
05-15-2012, 11:28 AM
I'm listening to infowars right now. It's very frightening news (so what esle is new), but important information that we should all be made aware of and share with others.

AJ interviews a whistleblower from a major defense contractor who has details on the Department of Homeland Security's effort to shift the war on terror from Muslims to fighting the American people. This guy is explaining how there will be military contractors going after Americans here, because the military is waking up to what they are doing and won't go against the American people. That's why the the govt. is hiring contractors, foreigners, and gang members for the military!

http://www.infowars.com/

God, are we living in the Twilight Zone or what???

Lishy
05-15-2012, 11:30 AM
V_V

What the fuck do they want anyways? Money? Sex? More power?

Seriously...

Anti Federalist
05-15-2012, 11:34 AM
V_V

What the fuck do they want anyways? Money? Sex? More power?

Seriously...

What tyrants have always wanted, since primitive man first figured out how to bash his brother over the head with a bone.

Power and control for its own sake.

They may dress it up with different rationalizations: keeping you safe, the foreign threat, society's greater good, blarg, blarg, blarg.

But all that is bullshit.

It's power, pure and simple, the ability to exercise life and death control over your fellow man.

libertygrl
05-15-2012, 11:43 AM
TOTAL CONTROL. Believe it or not, we are actually getting more intelligent, LOL. The internet has helped us to become more informed and bypass the corrupt media by spreading important information worldwide. They can no longer control us. But from what I have read over the years, this agenda has been in place for centuries. We happen to be the lucky saps born to live in this age to experience it. America is the last best hope against the NWO. That's why Ron Paul and our movement is so vital. And that's why we are so passionate in our support for him. We know what's at stake.

Romulus
05-15-2012, 11:45 AM
Blackwater and NDAA = trouble.

Sam I am
05-15-2012, 11:49 AM
The simple fact that it's on the Alex Jones Show makes me not believe it.

Lishy
05-15-2012, 11:49 AM
Power and control for its own sake.
But Ben Bernanke could already get all the cheap ass hoes he wants! What else could power do for him!?!

libertygrl
05-15-2012, 12:02 PM
The simple fact that it's on the Alex Jones Show makes me not believe it.

I admit, the guy can go off at times and his voice is so grating (I can only take him in small doses) but it's been my experience that the things he has reported on over the years, has come true. There are loads of documents, reports and videos that usually back him up. But do the research for yourself. That's what I've always done.

Liberty74
05-15-2012, 12:03 PM
I'm listening on my iPhone. Must of just missed it. I'll have to catch it on the next loop.

I have been talking about the Marshall law type of event coming. The govt knows that the collapse is coming and they are going to need systems in place to round up the people. They know the military won't be reliable.

I posted a thread about MASS ARRESTS COMING. Everyone should check it out. It deals with freedom groups arresting politicians, bankers, media, etc. Letters have been sent to all 12 fed banks to cease and desist with liens including to the G7. The criminals in control of the govt know their gig is up.

libertygrl
05-15-2012, 12:10 PM
I'm listening on my iPhone. Must of just missed it. I'll have to catch it on the next loop.

I have been talking about the Marshall law type of event coming. The govt knows that the collapse is coming and they are going to need systems in place to round up the people. They know the military won't be reliable.

I posted a thread about MASS ARRESTS COMING. Everyone should check it out. It deals with freedom groups arresting politicians, bankers, media, etc. Letters have been sent to all 12 fed banks to cease and desist with liens including to the G7. The criminals in control of the govt know their gig is up.

Yeah, they're on hour 3 right now. I caught the end of hour 1 and it went into the beginning of hour 2. Wow, I never heard about the Mass Arrests! I will definetly check out your thread.

PatriotOne
05-15-2012, 12:10 PM
Am I the only one encouraged by "this"?

This guy is explaining how there will be military contractors going after Americans here, because the military is waking up to what they are doing and won't go against the American people.

I've become acquainted with a vet from Iraq (came home in December) who's mom lives across the street from me. Knowing he was looking for work, I've been hiring him to do some yard work for me and various other odd jobs.

We had a chance to have a long conversation a couple weeks ago. He was very well versed in "conspiracy theories" such as the NWO, etc, but the most encouraging is when he told me the reason he won't re-enlist is because of NDAA. Many of the rank and file are not happy about it. Will the military utilize the psycho's in the U.S. army against us? Hell yeah. I'm sure there are plenty of those willing, but I think there are far more not willing. What does that mean? Civil war in America. Anyone doubt that this isn't exactly what they have been prepping for?

Liberty74
05-15-2012, 12:11 PM
The simple fact that it's on the Alex Jones Show makes me not believe it.


I used to be anti-Alex myself because I was stuck in the false right left paradigm thanks to talk radio Rush, Beck, Hannity, etc. It turns out Alex is on the mark more so than anyone else. He comes off harsh and is very blunt that most people just can't believe what he says is true because they are use to traditional news that cover up the real issues. I'm sure he is wrong at times but that is no justification to simply throw out everything he says because much of it has come true.

People, we aren't in Kansas anymore.

libertygrl
05-15-2012, 12:12 PM
Am I the only one encouraged by "this"?

This guy is explaining how there will be military contractors going after Americans here, because the military is waking up to what they are doing and won't go against the American people.



LOL! I've been so conditioned into believeing the worst about things that I didn't even catch that! Good point. Thanks!

Anti Federalist
05-15-2012, 12:26 PM
I have been talking about the Marshall law type of event coming.

Nothing but love, but, this drives me batshit, beyond any rational level.

Marshall Law.

http://petticoatsandpistols.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/marshall-dillon.jpg

Martial Law

http://www.republicmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/state-police-armored-vehicle.jpg

Anti Federalist
05-15-2012, 12:29 PM
But Ben Bernanke could already get all the cheap ass hoes he wants! What else could power do for him!?!

Nothing.

Acquire currency; Fornicate with Wenches does not register in this equation.

It's not about mansions, broads, gold, yachts, private jets...its about being able to incinerate somebody from 10,000 miles away with the push of a button.

phill4paul
05-15-2012, 12:31 PM
Nothing but love, but, this drives me batshit, beyond any rational level.

Marshall Law.

http://petticoatsandpistols.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/marshall-dillon.jpg

Martial Law

http://www.republicmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/state-police-armored-vehicle.jpg

I prefer the former.

Anti Federalist
05-15-2012, 12:36 PM
I prefer the former.

WRT latter.

Every time I look at that picture, taken in the aftermath of Katrina, I think:

"They got that thing in there, instead of hut hutting about, hauling assholes with machine guns, why not load it up and start transporting the sick and infirm the hell out of there?"

Intoxiklown
05-15-2012, 12:42 PM
FYI....and just throwing this out there.....


If you want to ask me to read a thread you made, or listen to something, you should probably try linking me.

Just sayin'

John F Kennedy III
05-15-2012, 12:43 PM
The simple fact that it's on the Alex Jones Show makes me not believe it.

Lol.

libertygrl
05-15-2012, 12:47 PM
FYI....and just throwing this out there.....


If you want to ask me to read a thread you made, or listen to something, you should probably try linking me.

Just sayin'

Sorry, I usually do. I just forgot. Here: http://www.infowars.com/

Intoxiklown
05-15-2012, 12:50 PM
Sorry, I usually do. I just forgot. Here: http://www.infowars.com/

Oh, I was under the impression he uploaded his vids to youtube channels. LOL....ok, I could have went here.

HERP!

Anti Federalist
05-15-2012, 12:50 PM
Lol.

Neo-con Ned sez, "Iff'n it ain't on Fox News, I ain't a-watching it".

Many years have gone by, and I still have a hard time understanding this antipathy towards AJ, ranging from mild bias in some all the way up to blind rage in others.

I guess Oscar Wilde really was right when he said:

"If you are going to tell people the truth, you had better make them laugh, otherwise, they'll kill you."

Intoxiklown
05-15-2012, 12:54 PM
Never mind. I'll wait for replays uploaded. I don't care to download players just so I can listen to it.

jmdrake
05-15-2012, 12:57 PM
Am I the only one encouraged by "this"?

This guy is explaining how there will be military contractors going after Americans here, because the military is waking up to what they are doing and won't go against the American people.

I've become acquainted with a vet from Iraq (came home in December) who's mom lives across the street from me. Knowing he was looking for work, I've been hiring him to do some yard work for me and various other odd jobs.

We had a chance to have a long conversation a couple weeks ago. He was very well versed in "conspiracy theories" such as the NWO, etc, but the most encouraging is when he told me the reason he won't re-enlist is because of NDAA. Many of the rank and file are not happy about it. Will the military utilize the psycho's in the U.S. army against us? Hell yeah. I'm sure there are plenty of those willing, but I think there are far more not willing. What does that mean? Civil war in America. Anyone doubt that this isn't exactly what they have been prepping for?

My thoughts exactly.

MelissaCato
05-15-2012, 01:20 PM
I listen to AJ's show via Android every night before bed. I can't wait till tonight now. LOL

DGambler
05-15-2012, 01:44 PM
V_V

What the fuck do they want anyways? Money? Sex? More power?

Seriously...

Pathocracy: Tyranny at the Hand of Psychopaths (http://www.activistpost.com/2011/01/pathocracy-tyranny-at-hand-of.html)

This article WILL answer your question.

From the article:


From a position of total domination, psychopaths will aggressively and brutally protect the power they have gained. In the case of government, that means taking steps to eradicate any perceived opposition to their control and authority. Since true psychopaths are emotionally dead, and work empathy-free (see Dr. Robert Hare's book Without Conscience; The Disturbing World of Psychopaths), the task of cleaning house to prevent loss of control can quickly evolve into the 20-million-plus killed in the Russian Holocaust, the 60-million-plus killed in the Chinese Holocaust, or the extermination camps of the Jewish Holocaust.

and


Taken individually it may be possible to argue that mistakes in thinking resulted in poor choices giving license to bad endings, but the history of deliberate lies, endless bloodshed in manufactured wars, aggression against people using food, health, and finances, the non-stop assault on personal liberties using false flag terror, is a plain-as-day indication that Americans will face a deadly crisis in the near future. For the record: moves to disarm citizens always precede escalating physical control by a maniacal state. Always. 


I submit that the United States government is under the control of psychopaths, and the infestation is nearing completion; the point at which nothing can stop the oncoming violence. But that's not all, because above the federal government is a ruling cartel of off-shore psychopaths that have secretly been planning a one-world tyranny for more than 100 years. This is not a rant; it is a plea: take time to read the material.

and


From the murder of John F. Kennedy to the trail of dead bodies uncovered during the Clinton and Bush regimes, and now Obama -- the sanity of American government has taken a terrible turn toward Pathocracy. Normal Americans have to stop making excuses for what is plain view. 


It is time that humanity faces what it already knows: Historic suffering throughout the ages is related to the evil of the psychopath. We must never consent to being disarmed. Thomas Jefferson said: "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government."


This line of thinking has me terrified of what this world holds in store for my children.

libertygrl
05-15-2012, 03:10 PM
Thanks for the article. I went to that website and someone posted a link to this video. This will also explain a little bit more about the minds of those people in power:

Defense Against the Psychopath (Full length Version)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgGyvxqYSbE

Check this out too:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51lT%2Bp640vL._SL500_AA300_.jpg

Psychological Warfare and the New World Order: The Secret War Against the American People by Servando Gonzalez.. ISBN: 978-0-932367-23-5 Book Description America is at war. But this is not a conventional war waged with tanks, battleships and planes in conventional battlefields —at least not yet. It is a secret, insidious type of war whose battleground is the people’s minds. Its main weapons are mind viruses disseminating propaganda and mass brainwashing by disinformation, cunning, deception and lies in a large scale not used against any people since Nazi Germany. http://www.amazon.com/Psychological-Warfare-New-World-Order/dp/0932367232

Voluntary Man
05-15-2012, 03:34 PM
V_V

What the fuck do they want anyways? Money? Sex? More power?

Seriously...


'As you lie there,' said O'Brien, 'you have often wondered you have even asked me
-- why the Ministry of Love should expend so much time and trouble on you. And
when you were free you were puzzled by what was essentially the same question.
You could grasp the mechanics of the Society you lived in, but not its underlying
motives. Do you remember writing in your diary, "I understand how: I do not
understand why"? It was when you thought about "why" that you doubted your
own sanity. You have read the book, Goldstein's book, or parts of it, at least. Did it
tell you anything that you did not know already?'
'You have read it?' said Winston.
'I wrote it. That is to say, I collaborated in writing it. No book is produced
individually, as you know.'
'Is it true, what it says?'
'A description, yes. The programme it sets forth is nonsense. The secret
accumulation of knowledge -- a gradual spread of enlightenment -- ultimately a
proletarian rebellion -- the overthrow of the Party. You foresaw yourself that that
was what it would say. It is all nonsense. The proletarians will never revolt, not
in a thousand years or a million. They cannot. I do not have to tell you the reason:
you know it already. If you have ever cherished any dreams of violent
insurrection, you must abandon them. There is no way in which the Party can be
overthrown. The rule of the Party is for ever. Make that the starting-point of your
thoughts.'
He came closer to the bed. 'For ever!' he repeated. 'And now let us get back to the
question of "how" and "why". You understand well enough how the Party
maintains itself in power. Now tell me why we cling to power. What is our
motive? Why should we want power? Go on, speak,' he added as Winston
remained silent.
Nevertheless Winston did not speak for another moment or two. A feeling of
weariness had overwhelmed him. The faint, mad gleam of enthusiasm had come
back into O'Brien's face. He knew in advance what O'Brien would say. That the
Party did not seek power for its own ends, but only for the good of the majority.
That it sought power because men in the mass were frail cowardly creatures who
could not endure liberty or face the truth, and must be ruled over and
systematically deceived by others who were stronger than themselves. That the
choice for mankind lay between freedom and happiness, and that, for the great
bulk of mankind, happiness was better. That the party was the eternal guardian
of the weak, a dedicated sect doing evil that good might come, sacrificing its own
happiness to that of others. The terrible thing, thought Winston, the terrible thing
was that when O'Brien said this he would believe it. You could see it in his face.
O'Brien knew everything. A thousand times better than Winston he knew what
the world was really like, in what degradation the mass of human beings lived
and by what lies and barbarities the Party kept them there. He had understood it
all, weighed it all, and it made no difference: all was justified by the ultimate
purpose. What can you do, thought Winston, against the lunatic who is more
intelligent than yourself, who gives your arguments a fair hearing and then
simply persists in his lunacy?
'You are ruling over us for our own good,' he said feebly. 'You believe that human
beings are not fit to govern themselves, and therefore --'
He started and almost cried out. A pang of pain had shot through his body.
O'Brien had pushed the lever of the dial up to thirty-five.
'That was stupid, Winston, stupid!' he said. 'You should know better than to say a
thing like that.'
He pulled the lever back and continued:
'Now I will tell you the answer to my question. It is this. The Party seeks power
entirely for its own sake. We are not interested in the good of others; we are
interested solely in power. Not wealth or luxury or long life or happiness: only
power, pure power. What pure power means you will understand presently. We
are different from all the oligarchies of the past, in that we know what we are
doing. All the others, even those who resembled ourselves, were cowards and
hypocrites. The German Nazis and the Russian Communists came very close to us
in their methods, but they never had the courage to recognize their own motives.
They pretended, perhaps they even believed, that they had seized power
unwillingly and for a limited time, and that just round the corner there lay a
paradise where human beings would be free and equal. We are not like that. We
know that no one ever seizes power with the intention of relinquishing it. Power
is not a means, it is an end. One does not establish a dictatorship in order to
safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to establish the
dictatorship. The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is
torture. The object of power is power. Now do you begin to understand me?'

http://www.google.com/gwt/x?gl=US&hl=en-US&u=http://www.george-orwell.org/1984/19.html&client=ms-opera-mini-beta-android&q=1984+power+Winston+obrien&ei=K8qyT_DXPIGO2AXf-4zqCA&sa=X&ct=res&resnum=2&ved=0CBAQFjAB

VegasPatriot
05-15-2012, 03:48 PM
Am I the only one encouraged by "this"?

This guy is explaining how there will be military contractors going after Americans here, because the military is waking up to what they are doing and won't go against the American people.

I can't help but think that Oath Keepers has helped in this awakening of the military. This shows why it is important to support Oath Keepers. Please join or donate by following the link in my signature.

Revolution9
05-15-2012, 07:20 PM
V_V

What the fuck do they want anyways? Money? Sex? More power?

Seriously...

When you do the research and climb the ladders beyond the highest of human powers it is obvious that what is occurring i not of human origin and even those whom ordinary humans tremble at the feet of tremble in fear of whatever this power they are in the grip of is. Money, sex and power mean nothing compared to your soul. That is the true prize. They use your animal nature to obtain it.

Rev9

catdd
05-15-2012, 09:54 PM
[QUOTE=Anti Federalist;4427731]Neo-con Ned sez, "Iff'n it ain't on Fox News, I ain't a-watching it".

:D

DamianTV
05-15-2012, 11:59 PM
I'm listening to infowars right now. It's very frightening news (so what esle is new), but important information that we should all be made aware of and share with others.

AJ interviews a whistleblower from a major defense contractor who has details on the Department of Homeland Security's effort to shift the war on terror from Muslims to fighting the American people. This guy is explaining how there will be military contractors going after Americans here, because the military is waking up to what they are doing and won't go against the American people. That's why the the govt. is hiring contractors, foreigners, and gang members for the military!

http://www.infowars.com/

God, are we living in the Twilight Zone or what???

Gotta direct link? Theres several shows that have come out since 10:30AM...

Zippyjuan
05-16-2012, 12:30 AM
Alex Jones:" Martial Law Is Here" (article from 1999). Can't find any martial law being declared then or since.
http://www.infowars.com/martiallaw.html I guess that means that it has been "coming" for 13 years at least now. Y2k was supposed to bring it about. Then every election since then (which is every two years for Congress or every four years for Presidents).

anaconda
05-16-2012, 01:27 AM
What tyrants have always wanted, since primitive man first figured out how to bash his brother over the head with a bone.

Power and control for its own sake.

They may dress it up with different rationalizations: keeping you safe, the foreign threat, society's greater good, blarg, blarg, blarg.

But all that is bullshit.

It's power, pure and simple, the ability to exercise life and death control over your fellow man.

When the Ron Paul Revolution becomes a majority, will it's ranks be filled with petty, power hungry sycophants? Ending up becoming exactly what it was trying to avoid?

Lishy
05-16-2012, 01:28 AM
Alex Jones:" Martial Law Is Here" (article from 1999). Can't find any martial law being declared then or since.
http://www.infowars.com/martiallaw.html I guess that means that it has been "coming" for 13 years at least now. Y2k was supposed to bring it about. Then every election since then (which is every two years for Congress or every four years for Presidents).

The NDAA? Patriot act? TSA?

papitosabe
05-16-2012, 01:54 AM
The simple fact that it's on the Alex Jones Show makes me not believe it.

why's that?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uv9WeK-R4IY

S.Shorland
05-16-2012, 02:23 AM
Here's the segment

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vv_e-PmCFN0

donnay
05-16-2012, 02:53 AM
Alex Jones:" Martial Law Is Here" (article from 1999). Can't find any martial law being declared then or since.
http://www.infowars.com/martiallaw.html I guess that means that it has been "coming" for 13 years at least now. Y2k was supposed to bring it about. Then every election since then (which is every two years for Congress or every four years for Presidents).

Guess you haven't looked at the Executive Orders as far back as Richard Nixon eh? Martial Law has been incrementally imposed on the American People.



FEMA - The Secret Government

By Harry V. Martin (http://dmc.members.sonic.net/sentinel/gvcon6.html) with research assistance from David Caul

Copyright FreeAmerica and Harry V. Martin, 1995

Some people have referred to it as the "secret government" of the United States. It is not an elected body, it does not involve itself in public disclosures, and it even has a quasi-secret budget in the billions of dollars. This government organization has more power than the President of the United States or the Congress, it has the power to suspend laws, move entire populations, arrest and detain citizens without a warrant and hold them without trial, it can seize property, food supplies, transportation systems, and can suspend the Constitution.

Not only is it the most powerful entity in the United States, but it was not even created under Constitutional law by the Congress. It was a product of a Presidential Executive Order. No, it is not the U.S. military nor the Central Intelligence Agency, they are subject to Congress. The organization is called FEMA, which stands for the Federal Emergency Management Agency. Originally conceived in the Richard Nixon Administration, it was refined by President Jimmy Carter and given teeth in the Ronald Reagan and George Bush Administrations.

FEMA had one original concept when it was created, to assure the survivability of the United States government in the event of a nuclear attack on this nation. It was also provided with the task of being a federal coordinating body during times of domestic disasters, such as earthquakes, floods and hurricanes. Its awesome powers grow under the tutelage of people like Lt. Col. Oliver North and General Richard Secord, the architects on the Iran-Contra scandal and the looting of America's savings and loan institutions. FEMA has even been given control of the State Defense Forces, a rag-tag, often considered neo-Nazi, civilian army that will substitute for the National Guard, if the Guard is called to duty overseas.

THE MOST POWERFUL ORGANIZATION IN THE UNITED STATES

Though it may be the most powerful organization in the United States, few people know it even exists. But it has crept into our private lives. Even mortgage papers contain FEMA's name in small print if the property in question is near a flood plain. FEMA was deeply involved in the Los Angeles riots and the 1989 Loma Prieta earthquake in the San Francisco Bay Area. Some of the black helicopter traffic reported throughout the United States, but mainly in the West, California, Washington, Arizona, New Mexico, Texas and Colorado, are flown by FEMA personnel. FEMA has been given responsibility for many new disasters including urban forest fires, home heating emergencies, refugee situations, urban riots, and emergency planning for nuclear and toxic incidents. In the West, it works in conjunction with the Sixth Army.

FEMA was created in a series of Executive Orders. A Presidential Executive Order, whether Constitutional or not, becomes law simply by its publication in the Federal Registry. Congress is by-passed. Executive Order Number 12148 created the Federal Emergency Management Agency that is to interface with the Department of Defense for civil defense planning and funding. An "emergency czar" was appointed. FEMA has only spent about 6 percent of its budget on national emergencies, the bulk of their funding has been used for the construction of secret underground facilities to assure continuity of government in case of a major emergency, foreign or domestic. Executive Order Number 12656 appointed the National Security Council as the principal body that should consider emergency powers. This allows the government to increase domestic intelligence and surveillance of U.S. citizens and would restrict the freedom of movement within the United States and grant the government the right to isolate large groups of civilians. The National Guard could be federalized to seal all borders and take control of U.S. air space and all ports of entry.

Here are just a few Executive Orders associated with FEMA that would suspend the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. These Executive Orders have been on record for nearly 30 years and could be enacted by the stroke of a Presidential pen:

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10990 allows the government to take over all modes of transportation and control of highways and seaports.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10995 allows the government to seize and control the communication media.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10997 allows the government to take over all electrical power, gas, petroleum, fuels and minerals.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10998 allows the government to take over all food resources and farms.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11000 allows the government to mobilize civilians into work brigades under government supervision.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11001 allows the government to take over all health, education and welfare functions.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11002 designates the Postmaster General to operate a national registration of all persons.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11003 allows the government to take over all airports and aircraft, including commercial aircraft.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11004 allows the Housing and Finance Authority to relocate communities, build new housing with public funds, designate areas to be abandoned, and establish new locations for populations.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11005 allows the government to take over railroads, inland waterways and public storage facilities.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11051 specifies the responsibility of the Office of Emergency Planning and gives authorization to put all Executive Orders into effect in times of increased international tensions and economic or financial crisis.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11310 grants authority to the Department of Justice to enforce the plans set out in Executive Orders, to institute industrial support, to establish judicial and legislative liaison, to control all aliens, to operate penal and correctional institutions, and to advise and assist the President.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11049 assigns emergency preparedness function to federal departments and agencies, consolidating 21 operative Executive Orders issued over a fifteen year period.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11921 allows the Federal Emergency Preparedness Agency to develop plans to establish control over the mechanisms of production and distribution, of energy sources, wages, salaries, credit and the flow of money in U.S. financial institution in any undefined national emergency. It also provides that when a state of emergency is declared by the President, Congress cannot review the action for six months.

The Federal Emergency Management Agency has broad powers in every aspect of the nation. General Frank Salzedo, chief of FEMA's Civil Security Division stated in a 1983 conference that he saw FEMA's role as a "new frontier in the protection of individual and governmental leaders from assassination, and of civil and military installations from sabotage and/or attack, as well as prevention of dissident groups from gaining access to U.S. opinion, or a global audience in times of crisis."

FEMA's powers were consolidated by President Carter to incorporate:

the National Security Act of 1947, which allows for the strategic relocation of industries, services, government and other essential economic activities, and to rationalize the requirements for manpower, resources and production facilities;

the 1950 Defense Production Act, which gives the President sweeping powers over all aspects of the economy;

the Act of August 29, 1916, which authorizes the Secretary of the Army, in time of war, to take possession of any transportation system for transporting troops, material, or any other purpose related to the emergency; and

the International Emergency Economic Powers Act, which enables the President to seize the property of a foreign country or national.

These powers were transferred to FEMA in a sweeping consolidation in 1979.

HURRICANE ANDREW FOCUSED ATTENTION ON FEMA

FEMA's deceptive role really did not come to light with much of the public until Hurricane Andrew smashed into the U.S. mainland. As Russell R. Dynes, director of the Disaster Research Center of the University of Delaware, wrote in The World and I, "...The eye of the political storm hovered over the Federal Emergency Management Agency. FEMA became a convenient target for criticism." Because FEMA was accused of dropping the ball in Florida, the media and Congress commenced to study this agency. What came out of the critical look was that FEMA was spending 12 times more for "black operations" than for disaster relief. It spent $1.3 billion building secret bunkers throughout the United States in anticipation of government disruption by foreign or domestic upheaval. Yet fewer than 20 members of Congress , only members with top security clearance, know of the $1.3 billion expenditure by FEMA for non-natural disaster situations. These few Congressional leaders state that FEMA has a "black curtain" around its operations. FEMA has worked on National Security programs since 1979, and its predecessor, the Federal Emergency Preparedness Agency, has secretly spent millions of dollars before being merged into FEMA by President Carter in 1979.

FEMA has developed 300 sophisticated mobile units that are capable of sustaining themselves for a month. The vehicles are located in five areas of the United States. They have tremendous communication systems and each contains a generator that would provide power to 120 homes each, but have never been used for disaster relief.

FEMA's enormous powers can be triggered easily. In any form of domestic or foreign problem, perceived and not always actual, emergency powers can be enacted. The President of the United States now has broader powers to declare martial law, which activates FEMA's extraordinary powers. Martial law can be declared during time of increased tension overseas, economic problems within the United States, such as a depression, civil unrest, such as demonstrations or scenes like the Los Angeles riots, and in a drug crisis. These Presidential powers have increased with successive Crime Bills, particularly the 1991 and 1993 Crime Bills, which increase the power to suspend the rights guaranteed under the Constitution and to seize property of those suspected of being drug dealers, to individuals who participate in a public protest or demonstration. Under emergency plans already in existence, the power exists to suspend the Constitution and turn over the reigns of government to FEMA and appointing military commanders to run state and local governments. FEMA then would have the right to order the detention of anyone whom there is reasonable ground to believe...will engage in, or probably conspire with others to engage in acts of espionage or sabotage. The plan also authorized the establishment of concentration camps for detaining the accused, but no trial.

Three times since 1984, FEMA stood on the threshold of taking control of the nation. Once under President Reagan in 1984, and twice under President Bush in 1990 and 1992. But under those three scenarios, there was not a sufficient crisis to warrant risking martial law. Most experts on the subject of FEMA and Martial Law insisted that a crisis has to appear dangerous enough for the people of the United States before they would tolerate or accept complete government takeover. The typical crisis needed would be threat of imminent nuclear war, rioting in several U.S. cites simultaneously, a series of national disasters that affect widespread danger to the populous, massive terrorist attacks, a depression in which tens of millions are unemployed and without financial resources, or a major environmental disaster.

THREE TIMES FEMA STOOD BY READY FOR EMERGENCY

In April 1984, President Reagan signed Presidential Director Number 54 that allowed FEMA to engage in a secret national "readiness exercise" under the code name of REX 84. The exercise was to test FEMA's readiness to assume military authority in the event of a "State of Domestic National Emergency" concurrent with the launching of a direct United States military operation in Central America. The plan called for the deputation of U.S. military and National Guard units so that they could legally be used for domestic law enforcement. These units would be assigned to conduct sweeps and take into custody an estimated 400,000 undocumented Central American immigrants in the United States. The immigrants would be interned at 10 detention centers to be set up at military bases throughout the country.

REX 84 was so highly guarded that special metal security doors were placed on the fifth floor of the FEMA building in Washington, D.C. Even long-standing employees of the Civil Defense of the Federal Executive Department possessing the highest possible security clearances were not being allowed through the newly installed metal security doors. Only personnel wearing a special red Christian cross or crucifix lapel pin were allowed into the premises. Lt. Col. North was responsible for drawing up the emergency plan, which U.S. Attorney General William French Smith opposed vehemently. The plan called for the suspension of the Constitution, turning control of the government over to FEMA, appointment of military commanders to run state and local governments and the declaration of Martial Law. The Presidential Executive Orders to support such a plan were already in place. The plan also advocated the rounding up and transfer to "assembly centers or relocation camps" of a least 21 million American Negroes in the event of massive rioting or disorder, not unlike the rounding up of the Jews in Nazi Germany in the 1930s.

The second known time that FEMA stood by was in 1990 when Desert Storm was enacted. Prior to President Bush's invasion of Iraq, FEMA began to draft new legislation to increase its already formidable powers. One of the elements incorporated into the plan was to set up operations within any state or locality without the prior permission of local or state authorities. Such prior permission has always been required in the past. Much of the mechanism being set into place was in anticipation of the economic collapse of the Western World. The war with Iraq may have been conceived as a ploy to boost the bankrupt economy, but it only pushed the West into deeper recession.

The third scenario for FEMA came with the Los Angeles riots after the Rodney King brutality verdict. Had the rioting spread to other cities, FEMA would have been empowered to step in. As it was, major rioting only occurred in the Los Angeles area, thus preventing a pretext for a FEMA response.

On July 5, 1987, the Miami Herald published reports on FEMA's new goals. The goal was to suspend the Constitution in the event of a national crisis, such as nuclear war, violent and widespread internal dissent, or national opposition to a U.S. military invasion abroad. Lt. Col. North was the architect. National Security Directive Number 52 issued in August 1982, pertains to the "Use of National Guard Troops to Quell Disturbances."

The crux of the problem is that FEMA has the power to turn the United States into a police state in time of a real crisis or a manufactured crisis. Lt. Col. North virtually established the apparatus for dictatorship. Only the criticism of the Attorney General prevented the plans from being adopted. But intelligence reports indicate that FEMA has a folder with 22 Executive Orders for the President to sign in case of an emergency. It is believed those Executive Orders contain the framework of North's concepts, delayed by criticism but never truly abandoned.

The crisis, as the government now see it, is civil unrest. For generations, the government was concerned with nuclear war, but the violent and disruptive demonstrations that surrounded the Vietnam War era prompted President Nixon to change the direction of emergency powers from war time to times of domestic unrest. Diana Raynolds, program director of the Edward R. Murrow Center, summed up the dangers of FEMA today and the public reaction to Martial Law in a drug crisis: "It was James Madison's worst nightmare that a righteous faction would someday be strong enough to sweep away the Constitutional restraints designed by the framers to prevent the tyranny of centralized power, excessive privilege, an arbitrary governmental authority over the individual. These restraints, the balancing and checking of powers among branches and layers of government, and the civil guarantees, would be the first casualties in a drug-induced national security state with Reagan's Civil Emergency Preparedness unleashed. Nevertheless, there would be those who would welcome NSC (National Security Council) into the drug fray, believing that increasing state police powers to emergency levels is the only way left to fight American's enemy within. In the short run, a national security state would probably be a relief to those whose personal security and quality of life has been diminished by drugs or drug related crime. And, as the general public watches the progression of institutional chaos and social decay, they too may be willing to pay the ultimate price, one drug free America for 200 years of democracy."

The first targets in any FEMA emergency would be Hispanics and Blacks, the FEMA orders call for them to be rounded up and detained. Tax protesters, demonstrators against government military intervention outside U.S. borders, and people who maintain weapons in their homes are also targets. Operation Trojan Horse is a program designed to learn the identity of potential opponents to martial law. The program lures potential protesters into public forums, conducted by a "hero" of the people who advocates survival training. The list of names gathered at such meetings and rallies are computerized and then targeted in case of an emergency.

The most shining example of America to the world has been its peaceful transition of government from one administration to another. Despite crises of great magnitude, the United States has maintained its freedom and liberty. This nation now stands on the threshold of rule by non-elected people asserting non-Constitutional powers. Even Congress cannot review a Martial Law action until six months after it has been declared. For the first time in American history, the reigns of government would not be transferred from one elected element to another, but the Constitution, itself, can be suspended.

The scenarios established to trigger FEMA into action are generally found in the society today, economic collapse, civil unrest, drug problems, terrorist attacks, and protests against American intervention in a foreign country. All these premises exist, it could only be a matter of time in which one of these triggers the entire emergency necessary to bring FEMA into action, and then it may be too late, because under the FEMA plan, there is no contingency by which Constitutional power is restored.

A Son of Liberty
05-16-2012, 04:39 AM
Guess you haven't looked at the Executive Orders as far back as Richard Nixon eh? Martial Law has been incrementally imposed on the American People.

But that's the thing with Alex... if you were listening to him in 1999, you would have thought that the tanks were rolling down the streets right then and there.

I like the guy and I listen to him as often as I can... you know what? He's like a big time Hollywood movie: he takes chunks of the truth and wraps it in a glitzy, sexy, full-of-explosions, sound and fury high-production, high-dollar package... kind of like the movie, The Matrix (ironically), which was basically a re-telling of Plato's Republic with a Hollywood flourish.

Again, I'm not saying that what he says doesn't contain the truth, just that his presentation leaves a person thinking THE END IS NEAR! (and I'm not saying that it isn't ;) ) I also think he takes some things that are loosely connected and takes for granted that they are set in concrete.

Just a matter of taste. I'll be listening to him in the truck this afternoon on my way down the road, regardless. :)

pacelli
05-16-2012, 05:20 AM
What is his solution? Buy some tangy-tangerine or super pollenburst?

If this anonymous former defense contractor is right, you all had better start buying weapons and TRAINING how to use them, because there will be another war. You're either going to fight or you are going to go to the FEMA camp.

There's a reason Alex hasn't had anyone from a militia on his show since 08/09. Start your own militia unit.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbq9bhf5C1w

row333au
05-16-2012, 05:42 AM
Troops are beginning to refuse to follow unlawful orders


“I said I wouldn’t follow the orders,” Stein acknowledged. “But what I also said —- and what wasn’t included in the complaint that was sent —- is that I said I wouldn’t follow unlawful orders, such as taking away weapons from U.S. citizens or orders to kill Americans.”


http://www.teapartytribune.com/2012/03/06/troops-are-beginning-to-refuse-to-follow-unlawful-orders/

U.S. Troops In Neighboorhood Streets Fully Armed


what was actually going on that morning was a “training exercise” involving a quiet neighborhood that probably isn’t that different from your own. Being the patriot that she is, Maggie decided it might be a good idea to start asking some questions. Nothing too difficult, mainly just what the hell they were doing walking fully armed down a street regularly used to facilitate the innocent pastimes of all American kids.

Glancing at her briefly one Soldier responded, “Just training Ma’am. Joining up with another patrol at the rally point.”

Not accepting this as a reasonable answer to her inquiry, Magge went on, “Oh, ok. What are you training on the streets of town for exactly?”

At that the young soldier replied, “To be honest ma’am, I don’t know.”

http://libertarianreview.us/2012/04/30/u-s-troops-in-neighboorhood-streets-fully-armed/

green73
05-16-2012, 06:19 AM
This show freaked me out. The capper was the caller from Wisconsin. 1h57m http://rss.infowars.com/20120515_Tue_Alex.mp3

Are the feds putting spies in bars? Amassing a list of preppers? I sure hope that was a fake call.

green73
05-16-2012, 06:49 AM
Please put the tube in the OP.

TNforPaul45
05-16-2012, 06:55 AM
Of course they are going to turn the homeland security apparatus against the american people. How else do you think they will fight back against us 5% who are awake and finally get pissed at what they are doing locally and globally?

The rest of the population already has its mindset driven by the primary controll mechanism: television. For the rest of us who dont watch the lightbox, there's the State Police Tactical Unit urban tanks and mobile pill boxes for intersections.

Oh its going to be a fun next few decades :)

MelissaCato
05-16-2012, 07:45 AM
I dunno about ya'll, but as a single mom it's comforting to hear our Military on air saying they know what's going on. I just hope enough of them are around my area when TSHTF.

Just the thought of defending myself and my child if SHTF is terrifiying to me. Heck I have better days everytime I see them driving down the street or flying over the house.

libertygrl
05-16-2012, 09:50 AM
What is his solution? Buy some tangy-tangerine or super pollenburst?

If this anonymous former defense contractor is right, you all had better start buying weapons and TRAINING how to use them, because there will be another war. You're either going to fight or you are going to go to the FEMA camp.

There's a reason Alex hasn't had anyone from a militia on his show since 08/09. Start your own militia unit.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbq9bhf5C1w



I am chilled to the bone right now after watching that video. I pray it doesn't come down to us having a civil war. Especially for those of us who don't have that kind of warrior mentality. But here's another video that someone posted a link to on that same page:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeEFaos8HaA&feature=watch_response_rev

libertygrl
05-16-2012, 10:01 AM
Just the thought of defending myself and my child if SHTF is terrifiying to me. Heck I have better days everytime I see them driving down the street or flying over the house.

I'm right there with ya Melissa. I'm not a single mom but I can certainly understand the extra anxiety having children to protect - and being female! Our nature is to be nurturers NOT warriors! :( Athough, if the baby cubs are threatened watch out for Mama Bear! ;)

donnay
05-16-2012, 11:49 AM
But that's the thing with Alex... if you were listening to him in 1999, you would have thought that the tanks were rolling down the streets right then and there.

I like the guy and I listen to him as often as I can... you know what? He's like a big time Hollywood movie: he takes chunks of the truth and wraps it in a glitzy, sexy, full-of-explosions, sound and fury high-production, high-dollar package... kind of like the movie, The Matrix (ironically), which was basically a re-telling of Plato's Republic with a Hollywood flourish.

Again, I'm not saying that what he says doesn't contain the truth, just that his presentation leaves a person thinking THE END IS NEAR! (and I'm not saying that it isn't ;) ) I also think he takes some things that are loosely connected and takes for granted that they are set in concrete.

Just a matter of taste. I'll be listening to him in the truck this afternoon on my way down the road, regardless. :)

I have been listening to Alex for a long time (1997), and I have never got the impression that his presentation is THE END IS NEAR! In the sense that second coming--like an evangelical preacher. I get the urgency in his message and I know from my own research that his message should shake people to their core, as it should be. This Shadow Government is Evil and the elites will stop at nothing, to achieve their goals.

There is no other media out there laying it all out like Jones and his crew do. That is why I like his delivery. Some people think he is sensationalizing on the issues--and the way to find out if he is, is to do the research yourself--I did, and know that what he says is actually much more tone down than what is really happening in the shadows.

Knowledge is power and individual resistance and knowledge is the only way to take back what is rightfully ours!! The people have the power and the elites know it, that is why they are drugging our water and tainting our foods!

donnay
05-16-2012, 12:03 PM
What is his solution? Buy some tangy-tangerine or super pollenburst?


If the people are unhealthy how do they stand to fight back? The elites are deliberately making the people sick so they can be beholden to the system. They deliberately dumbed us down with sodium fluoride since it worked so well under tyrannical dictatorships in Russia and Germany. That information is well documented about sodium fluoride making people docile and apathetic.

pacelli
05-16-2012, 12:51 PM
I am chilled to the bone right now after watching that video. I pray it doesn't come down to us having a civil war. Especially for those of us who don't have that kind of warrior mentality.

Try listening to some of the Liberty Tree radio show archives. They focus on solutions.

http://home.comcast.net/~intelrptadmin/ArchivePage.html

row333au
05-16-2012, 09:38 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOPrPxb7luk&feature=youtu.be

Vessol
05-16-2012, 10:43 PM
Holy crap, 19% of military personnel are gang-affiliated? Scary news to me..

QuickZ06
05-16-2012, 11:41 PM
Holy crap, 19% of military personnel are gang-affiliated? Scary news to me..

Thug life!

row333au
05-17-2012, 12:45 AM
http://blog.al.com/live/2012/05/united_nations_agenda_21_bill.html

NewRightLibertarian
05-17-2012, 01:22 AM
just look at how they murdered breitbart on the day he was supposed to release explosive info.

it's very simple: these guys in the government are nazis, and these guys are out to completely control you and/or kill you. how much more proof do you need before you wake up?

libertygrl
05-17-2012, 10:49 AM
Try listening to some of the Liberty Tree radio show archives. They focus on solutions.

http://home.comcast.net/~intelrptadmin/ArchivePage.html

Thanks Pacelli. Are these show also available as podcasts? I download podcasts of interest to my iPod.

libertygrl
05-17-2012, 10:53 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOPrPxb7luk&feature=youtu.be

OH CRAP! :eek: Anyone from Chicago Here???