Link to ustream.tv stream of Oklahoma GOP convention

[flybeech]

One of our good, young Ron Paul delegates is driving from far away to vote and stream the Oklahoma GOP State convention tomorrow on ustream.tv. Tentatively, the stream will be from an iPhone, but we are trying to organize better equipment to provide the best possible experience of the Oklahoma State convention, where we intend to dominate with our incredible Ron Paul superpowers, as we did in our CD3rd, 4th and 5th districts. If there are any other known links to other streams, I'll try to post them here, but starting toady, we're all kinda busy getting ready.

We swept CD3, 4 and 5, giving Ron Paul 9 great delegates for Tampa. We lost CD1 and 2 by just two votes each, but tomorrow, we will do everything in our power to give liberty lovers 25 more delegates and get a redo of our CD1. We've got a big fight, we're prepared, highly organized and learned from the experiences learned in Maine and Nevada to prevent any monkey-business with fake slates. Our slates will be more difficult to fake than a private Federal Reserve note.

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/suriyahfish

[sailingaway]

Woot!! Broomstick guy returns?

I understand the Mittness forum says there is 'a surprise planned' for us. I hope our people are watching to make sure they aren't moving voting for delegates up to today as they did the day before the Maine convention, and I hope we have people in the rules committee and credentials committees which are meeting today in case their 'surprise' comes out of those.

But, Go, Oklahoma!

[PatriotOne]

Thxs for the link. Good luck! What time can we expect the fur to fly (when does the convention start?)?

[flybeech]

9AM Central time. Please post this over at the DP too, please. I've got to go get ready for battle.

[PatriotOne]

Woot!! Broomstick guy returns?



We need broomstick guy at all the conventions! He's great because he's so knowledgable on Robert Rules of Order and does commentary so well. I learned alot from watching BSG last weekend :).

[PatriotOne]

9AM Central time. Please post this over at the DP too, please. I've got to go get ready for battle.

Someone else post at DP pls. I don't have an account there.

[Okie RP fan]

I was wondering if we were going to have a stream... Cool!

[lib3rtarian]

Letter from Santorum campaign to OK Santorum supporters:


From: "Santorum for President (Oklahoma)"
Date: May 9, 2012 1:57:44 CDT
To: "Santorum for President (Oklahoma)"
Subject: RON PAUL'S PLAN TO STEAL OKLAHOMA THIS SATURDAY
SUBJECT: RON PAUL'S PLAN TO STEAL OKLAHOMA
From David Van Risseghem, Oklahoma State Coordinator, Rick Santorum For President
________________________________________
If you are a Ron Paul activist, you need not read any further. You already know the things I'm about to say.
This Saturday, in Norman, Oklahoma; Ron Paul's people intend to complete their grand design and add Oklahoma to the growing list of state delegations they already control.
The national media is largely ignoring the recent developments in many state and district conventions.
Rick Santorum won Minnesota, Missouri, Colorado, Louisiana, Iowa, and several other states. But the states I just named are now under the control of Ron Paul, and those delegates intend to vote for Paul regardless of the outcome of their Caucus results.
Oklahoma pledged all their 40 delegates to Santorum, Romney, and Gingrich; on Super Tuesday (March 6th). Ron Paul received less than 10% of the vote and zero pledged delegates.
But when the time came for selecting which individuals will wear those national delegate badges, Ron Paul's activists have already successfully received 9 of the first 15 national delegates from Oklahoma.
Each congressional district was allowed to select 3 national delegates and three of Oklahoma's district conventions (3, 4 & 5) were all controlled by Ron Paul activists. Districts 1 and 2 selected primarily Santorum supporters. Ron Paul's activists attempted a coup at District One and they are now petitioning to vacate the results of District One. Here's an edited video they posted. They redacted portions they don't what you to see. http://goo.gl/mC9aQ
Here's why I'm calling on you….
Dedicated Republicans need to work together to avoid a chaotic state convention this Saturday. The convention needs to select the final 25 delegates and protect the District One delegates. Libertarian forces are plotting to supplant the primary results by selecting an alternative slate of candidates who reflect the agenda of the American Libertarian Party. (http://goo.gl/Y68Jo)
If you are a state delegate, it is imperative that you attend the Oklahoma Republican State Convention, this Saturday. There will assuredly be a passionate struggle for control of the convention, the national delegation, and the party's future. Call your county chairman, to make sure they added you to the delegation list.
Please take a few seconds to RSVP here: http://goo.gl/skNqb , so we can keep you informed of the developments this week.
The Tulsa County Republican Party has already filled up one bus for the trip to Norman, this Saturday. Another supporter has stepped up and offered to provide us another bus for the Santorum Supporters of Eastern Oklahoma, but only if enough interest is evident. We need a "hard count" by Thursday. Please RSVP via this link: http://goo.gl/skNqb
It's time for all values voters to work together to keep our communities safe for the next generation. Several Ron Paul activists want to legalize recreational drug use, decimate obscenity laws, and sanction prostitution. It's time to stand with our allies in the middle east. It's time to restore civility to the Oklahoma Republican Party.
It's been a great honor to work with all of you during this presidential primary season. I don't regret any of it, regardless of what comes next.
God bless you, David Van Risseghem
Santorum Oklahoma State Coordinator
oklahoma@ricksantorum.com

[RonRules]

I have scoured the Oklahoma GOP website for information that could help us prepare for shenanigans.

I hope this helps:

May 12, 2012: RULES AND ORDER OF BUSINESS
http://www.okgop.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/StateConventionRules.pdf

More rules:
http://www.okgop.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/ORP-Rules-2010.pdf

Are these Ron Paul people or Romney people?
It does not say and I hope these are not strictly Romney delegates because this file just came of the GOP website!!
http://www.okgop.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/delegates_congressionaldistricts.pdf

More delegates with no affiliation mentioned:
http://www.okgop.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/delegateslate2012.pdf

Elector OATH OF AFFIRMATION
http://www.okgop.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Elector-application-oath.pdf

AFFIDAVIT OF ACCEPTANCE
http://www.okgop.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/National-Delegate-Bio-Affidavit.pdf

HOW DO I BECOME A NATIONAL DELEGATE
http://www.okgop.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/How-Do-I-Become-a-National-Delegate.pdf

General brochure:
http://www.okgop.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/OK_GOP_Convention_Brochure_4-19.pdf


This may need to be put in a new thread. I'm not from OK, but if you are and plan on attending the convention, please lead the way if you feel this is important information.

[RonRules]

Oh and BTW, there's a free bus ride to the convention: :)

The Tulsa County Republican Party has already filled up one bus for the trip to Norman, this Saturday. Another supporter has stepped up and offered to provide us another bus for the Santorum Supporters of Eastern Oklahoma, but only if enough interest is evident. We need a "hard count" by Thursday.

If the Republican Party is paying for the bus, by all means RSVP and fill it up fast!

Please RSVP via this link: http://goo.gl/skNqb
(One of the questions is: "Who did you vote for, in the Oklahoma Presidential Primary?" You know what to do!)

A Ustream from within the bus, with plenty of Ron Paul signs would be a hoot!

[sailingaway]

Thanks, RonRules, some of those links are interesting.

[kathy88]

Woot!! Broomstick guy returns?

I understand the Mittness forum says there is 'a surprise planned' for us. I hope our people are watching to make sure they aren't moving voting for delegates up to today as they did the day before the Maine convention, and I hope we have people in the rules committee and credentials committees which are meeting today in case their 'surprise' comes out of those.

But, Go, Oklahoma!

I'm pretty sure you meant Epic Broomstick Guy

[RonRules]

The end of this video gets REALLY interesting! I think OK's convention will be more of a sports event than last weekend's NV.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Swgk1iGL9Fc&feature=youtu.be

We need great video from OK. Please do all you can to get great equipment and live streaming. You know the MSM won't do it.

[kathy88]

It's time for all values voters to work together to keep our communities safe for the next generation. Several Ron Paul activists want to legalize recreational drug use, decimate obscenity laws, and sanction prostitution. It's time to stand with our allies in the middle east. It's time to restore civility to the Oklahoma Republican Party.

Seriously?

[sailingaway]

Seriously?

blatant lies, but by someone they trust.

[kathy88]

Here's the letter writers twitter :) Doesn't use it very often. Sounds like a tool.

https://twitter.com/#!/vancraft

[freedomordeath]

please don't forget about North Dekota, we need to always be prepared for a North Dekota type incident

[francisco]

Oh and BTW, there's a free bus ride to the convention: :)



You might want to arrange a different ride for the return home, though. :p

[Bastiat's The Law]

please don't forget about North Dekota, we need to always be prepared for a North Dekota type incident
What happened?

[DonovanJames]

What happened?

Disasterously bias chairman railroaded the Paul and Santorum camps

[lib3rtarian]

What happened?


Disasterously bias chairman railroaded the Paul and Santorum camps

Too late for a post-mortem, but did we have the numbers in ND? We could have appointed our own convention chairman from the floor, no?

[KMX]

That was awesome!

[Agorism]

What's the name of the chairman who was cheating this time?

[sailingaway]

Here's the letter writers twitter :) Doesn't use it very often. Sounds like a tool.

https://twitter.com/#!/vancraft

"making your home sparkle"?

[tsai3904]

Tim Pawlenty will be campaigning for Romney at the convention tomorrow.

[lib3rtarian]

Tim Pawlenty will be campaigning for Romney at the convention tomorrow.

They are pulling out all stops, aren't they? This should attract some additional neocons to the convention. Paul people just needs put in some extra efforts.

[Badger Paul]

"Tim Pawlenty will be campaigning for Romney at the convention tomorrow. "

Now there's a convincing man.:rolleyes:

[sailingaway]

"Tim Pawlenty will be campaigning for Romney at the convention tomorrow. "

Now there's a convincing man.:rolleyes:

Particularly in Oklahoma.

[InTradePro]

Oklahoma convention

Please go if you can, I'm expecting a lot of Romney based cheating.

[Oddone]

BUMP! Roughly 2.5 hours to go guys!

[digitaldean]

Oklahoma convention

Please go if you can, I'm expecting a lot of Romney based cheating.

A pic of the event from a Mitt person:

https://twitter.com/#!/jffrypeters/status/201266722148331520/photo/1

What is with the screens? Is something similar to ND going to go down today? I hope not and that we have over 51% Paul people.

[Ranger29860]

A pic of the event from a Mitt person:

https://twitter.com/#!/jffrypeters/status/201266722148331520/photo/1

What is with the screens? Is something similar to ND going to go down today? I hope not and that we have over 51% Paul people.

If I had to guess the screens are just there to help people see :). Since that room does look huge!

[Bastiat's The Law]

Getting pumped!

[RonRules]

Richard Engle | Oklahoma 4th District Committee Meeting

Establishment much?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvrcd3GnF58

From Twitter:

Michael Bates ‏ @BatesLine
RNC candidate Richard Engle's emails aren't just weird, they're creepy, in a privacy-invading way - BatesLine http://bit.ly/JMafhP #okgop

[digitaldean]

Keagan ‏ @KMOforLiberty
At the #OKGOP Convention. Definitely more Paul cars in the parking lot than anyone else.

[PatriotOne]

Good morning Oklahoma! Thine eyes are upon you.

[Bastiat's The Law]

Hope we get a high quality stream

[PatriotOne]

Keagan ‏ @KMOforLiberty
At the #OKGOP Convention. Definitely more Paul cars in the parking lot than anyone else.

Good. Good. But we are early birds so I need more comforting than that :p.

[PatriotOne]

Hope we get a high quality stream

My expectations are low since this will be her first time streaming.

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/suriyahfish

[PatriotOne]

Twitter feed:

#OKGOP
https://twitter.com/#!/search/realtime/%23okgop

Another livefeed:

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/ok-gop-state-convention---jake-peters-ron-paul-delegate#utm_campaign=unknown&utm_source=11088383&utm_medium=social

[digitaldean]

Keagan ‏ @KMOforLiberty
Everyone walking by is commenting about the length of the Ron Paul check in line. I can tell we are irritating the old guard. #OKGOP

[PatriotOne]

Keagan‏@KMOforLiberty

Everyone walking by is commenting about the length of the Ron Paul check in line. I can tell we are irritating the old guard. #OKGOP

[Oddone]

Keagan‏@KMOforLiberty

Everyone walking by is commenting about the length of the Ron Paul check in line. I can tell we are irritating the old guard. #OKGOP

Mwahahahah... Mwauhaha..

[Oddone]

This link just came over twitter with a live feed from the OKGOP State Convention.

John Yowan‏@Yowan

Now watching the #OKGOP state convention. Go #RonPaul! (live at http://ustre.am/KwAT/1)

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/ok-gop-state-convention---jake-peters-ron-paul-delegate

Edit: Not much going on right now.

[Yowan]

@KMOforLiberty: The Ron Paul line keeps getting longer. Lots of people, friendlies and non-friendlies, taking pics of the line.

I have a good feeling about today!

[Oddone]

John Yowan‏@Yowan

RT @KMOforLiberty: The #RonPaul line keeps getting longer. Lots of people, friendlies and non-friendlies, taking pics of the line. #OKGOP

LOL at post above, I take it these are your Tweets?

[Yowan]

Keagan‏@KMOforLiberty

Everyone walking by is commenting about the length of the Ron Paul check in line. I can tell we are irritating the old guard. #OKGOP

Yeah, it's not live again. People are just registering. Now it's back off but you can watch the recorded video of a table.

[Ranger29860]

lol this is getting ridiculous. I feel like a persons who watches sports at this point! Hey guy you watch the caucus Tuesday? I am really look forward to the one on Saturday.

[Yowan]

John Yowan‏@Yowan

RT @KMOforLiberty: The #RonPaul line keeps getting longer. Lots of people, friendlies and non-friendlies, taking pics of the line. #OKGOP

LOL at post above, I take it these are your Tweets?

I am @Yowan. @KMOforLiberty is one of my awesome followers on twitter.

[PatriotOne]

Yowan in da house. Good morning John :).

[Oddone]

lol this is getting ridiculous. I feel like a persons who watches sports at this point! Hey guy you watch the caucus Tuesday? I am really look forward to the one on Saturday.

To be honest with you it is more exciting to me. I mean damn did you see the play the Ron Paul folks made at like 11PM at night in Nevada to keep Bylaws open?! They were on the ropes and had no idea if they would be able to pull it off, things were looking bad many supporters had gone home and the numbers looked close. Then the counts came in and the Ron Paul delegates won by only 50+ votes! I was on the edge of my seat, threw my hands in the air and stopped my self from yelling at the last sec, as I was at work.

[PatriotOne]

lol this is getting ridiculous. I feel like a persons who watches sports at this point! Hey guy you watch the caucus Tuesday? I am really look forward to the one on Saturday.

No kidding. I imagine I'm going to feel like a baseball fan after season is over.

[Yowan]

A good idea from one of my followers: get a video of anyone handing out slates to us. (I don't think the Romney camp will try it again, but never know)

[kathy88]

lol this is getting ridiculous. I feel like a persons who watches sports at this point! Hey guy you watch the caucus Tuesday? I am really look forward to the one on Saturday.

HAHAHA. Just how I feel. My co-workers are getting irritated with me because on Monday mornings (or days after primaries) I give them a blow by blow... LOL.

[PatriotOne]

To be honest with you it is more exciting to me. I mean damn did you see the play the Ron Paul folks made at like 11PM at night in Nevada to keep Bylaws open?! They were on the ropes and had no idea if they would be able to pull it off, things were looking bad many supporters had gone home and the numbers looked close. Then the counts came in and the Ron Paul delegates won by only 50+ votes! I was on the edge of my seat, threw my hands in the air and stopped my self from yelling at the last sec, as I was at work.

I saw it also. 4th down, 1 yard to go, and Team Paul SCORE's!!!!! The crowd goes wild :p

[Ranger29860]

A good idea from one of my followers: get a video of anyone handing out slates to us. (I don't think the Romney camp will try it again, but never know)

Keep a eye out for Charlie Nejedly! I think it was confirmed that he has been at multiple state conventions.

[kathy88]

To be honest with you it is more exciting to me. I mean damn did you see the play the Ron Paul folks made at like 11PM at night in Nevada to keep Bylaws open?! They were on the ropes and had no idea if they would be able to pull it off, things were looking bad many supporters had gone home and the numbers looked close. Then the counts came in and the Ron Paul delegates won by only 50+ votes! I was on the edge of my seat, threw my hands in the air and stopped my self from yelling at the last sec, as I was at work.

Can I put that in my sig?

[PatriotOne]

HAHAHA. Just how I feel. My co-workers are getting irritated with me because on Monday mornings (or days after primaries) I give them a blow by blow... LOL.

Kathy in da house! Good morn Kathy :).

[Oddone]

Can I put that in my sig?
Ha.. Go for it. If I'd known someone would want to do that, I'd have run it through Word for spelling and grammer. :p

[kathy88]

Kathy in da house! Good morn Kathy :).


GGGRRR first cup of coffee. Slept in and the kids have ANOTHER damn birthday party to go to today. Morning.

[asurfaholic]

Good luck in OK today! Will be watching closely, eating popcorn, and giggling like a maniac.

[RonRules]

Several people are commenting on how long the Ron Paul line is. Hope we get pictures soon.

[PatriotOne]

Slept in and the kids have ANOTHER damn birthday party to go to today. Morning.

Mighty selfish of them :mad: Don't they know what day this is :p?

[PatriotOne]

Anyone know what up with RP vs MR lines? There are seperate lines to register? Is that common? Isn't that kind of like having to declare allegiance prior to the convention?

[Ranger29860]

Anyone know what up with RP vs MR lines? There are seperate lines to register? Is that common? Isn't that kind of like having to declare allegiance prior to the convention?

IT might be a table to get Ron Paul slates and other things. I don;t think Ive seen it refered to as the registration line yet.

[kathy88]

IT might be a table to get Ron Paul slates and other things. I don;t think Ive seen it refered to as the registration line yet.

They did the same thing other places. It's to pick up the slates, info

[Bastiat's The Law]

These conventions have the buildup and excitement of a big title fight.

Grassroots vs. Establishment

http://images.politico.com/global/ron%20paul.jpg

^^
That guy sums up the establishment in the picture too, fingers in the ears "we can't hear you" type denial.

[hillertexas]

These conventions have the feelings and excitement of a big title fight.

Grassroots vs. Establishment

http://images.politico.com/global/ron%20paul.jpg

^^
That guy sums up the establishment in the picture too, fingers in the ears "we can't hear you" type denial.

This was my favorite picture from 2008...I love how the old guy at the bottom left is plugging his ears. lol

[PatriotOne]

IT might be a table to get Ron Paul slates and other things. I don;t think Ive seen it refered to as the registration line yet.

Ahhh. OK thanks. More like a Team RP check in line than the registration line.

[Ranger29860]

These conventions have the feelings and excitement of a big title fight.

Grassroots vs. Establishment

http://images.politico.com/global/ron%20paul.jpg

^^
That guy sums up the establishment in the picture too, fingers in the ears "we can't hear you" type denial.

Clearly you Photoshopped that old guys sign! Everyone knows Ron Paul supporters are young stoners.

[Bastiat's The Law]

I hope the Paul guy in that 2008 picture was present for the victory in 2012 :D

[kathy88]

Check in line for RP.

http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg875/scaled.php?tn=0&server=875&filename=kjxqj.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=640

[kathy88]

We got this.

[Ranger29860]

We got this.

I wonder what trick they are gonna try to pull at 9. You know its coming.

[PauliticsPolitics]

I wonder what trick they are gonna try to pull at 9. You know its coming.
yea, I have a feeling this one is gunna get dirty...

[Ranger29860]

yea, I have a feeling this one is gunna get dirty...

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/ok-gop-state-convention---jake-peters-ron-paul-delegate

He's LIVE!

[robertwerden]

This stream is really clean, better than Nevada

[Ranger29860]

This stream is really clean, better than Nevada

My neck hurts

[kathy88]

yea, I have a feeling this one is gunna get dirty...

We're smarter.

[PatriotOne]

Check in line for RP.

http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg875/scaled.php?tn=0&server=875&filename=kjxqj.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=640

I'm profiling the guy with bald head and suit. I think we ought to pull him outta line and strip search/interrogate him :p.

[kathy88]

I'm profiling the guy with bald head and suit. I think we ought to pull him outta line and strip search/interrogate him :p.'



You are sick. LOL.

[digitaldean]

Do the doors close soon? I don't want them to bring in more people.

[PauliticsPolitics]

For everyone's easy reference:

We have two streams:
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/ok-gop-state-convention---jake-peters-ron-paul-delegate
(This one is already up and streaming, at least at this moment)

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/suriyahfish
(http://www.ustream.tv/channel/suriyahfish)(This one will alledgedly start soon)


The twitter handle for the event is #OKGOP

[Ranger29860]

Do the doors close soon? I don't want them to bring in more people.

If I had to go by what we heard earlier is if your in line to register by 9 am then your good but after 9 you can't join the lin... not 100% on it though

[Bastiat's The Law]

I wonder what they're using camera wise.

[Ranger29860]

I wonder what they're using camera wise.

Its got to be a iphone. They were sideways just a few minutes ago.

[PatriotOne]

'

You are sick. LOL.

And again I say....


NEVER give Patriotone any power over the people. I would become a liberty tyrant. :D

[XTreat]

Treat checking in!

[dancjm]

Great support from the Chair it seems. :)

[RonRules]

Jason Reese ‏ @JasonAReese
Definitely a lot more facial piercings than previous conventions.

[Darguth]

Great support from the Chair it seems. :)

The guy speaking, who I think is a parliamentarian, seemed dubious about what the chair suggested though. Too much of it hinges on the chair doing what he said he'll do :/

[Ranger29860]

You do not salute during the pledge or national anthem while indoors, wanted to grab that guy by the back of the neck! :P

[Bastiat's The Law]

Yup exactly. I don't like depending on chairs unless they are our own animals.

[RonRules]

This is going to be a fun day:

Jimmie MacMillan -- "The rent is too damn high" -- is posing for photos at Mark Costello's booth. #okgop

[Ranger29860]

The guy speaking, who I think is a parliamentarian, seemed dubious about what the chair suggested though. Too much of it hinges on the chair doing what he said he'll do :/

If I understand what he is doing right it does not matter. If he brinkes up the minority report and the chair does not allow it as an amendment and tries to kill it because a person from the rules commitie did not motion, then it would be ruled out of order. So all they would have to do is get the rules commitie person they were talking about to call for a motion and they are set. The only uhoh to this is if they try to say the motion was already ruled out of order but that would be very hard to uphold.

[Bastiat's The Law]

Stream is off at the moment. Anyone have an alternate stream?

[rp713]

stream is offline. is whoever doing this still going to stream this live?

[Ranger29860]

And there back!

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/ok-gop-state-convention---jake-peters-ron-paul-delegate

[PauliticsPolitics]

For everyone's easy reference:

We have two streams:
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/ok-gop-state-convention---jake-peters-ron-paul-delegate
(This one is already up and streaming, at least at this moment)

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/suriyahfish
(http://www.ustream.tv/channel/suriyahfish)(This one will alledgedly start soon)


The twitter handle for the event is #OKGOP

Both streams are ON now!

[Bastiat's The Law]

It's good we have two streams. That one guy said his phone needed charging.

[Ranger29860]

Is it just me or does the current speaker sound liek Alan Alda?

[digitaldean]

For people that are in OK what percent do you think make up Paul people? Do we have at least 51%?

[Okie RP fan]

Supposedly there are two streams.

[sailingaway]

Yup exactly. I don't like depending on chairs unless they are our own animals.

I agree. So far every time we haven't insisted on our chair, if it goes badly for the other side, they cheat, and controlling the process, lights, calls on votes and whether to count etc, it is hard to fight that.

[PatriotOne]

For those just reading the thread....

Right now the credential committee is checking credentials and there are speakers talking to the caucus. This could be a long process so not much will happen for awhile except listening to a bunch of boring speeches.

[sailingaway]

Jason Reese ‏ @JasonAReese
Definitely a lot more facial piercings than previous conventions.

He probably saw one.

(but that is probably one more than at any prior OK GOP convention....)

[digitaldean]

Supposedly there are two streams.

Yep as long they do not get crossed:

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/ok-gop-state-convention---jake-peters-ron-paul-delegate

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/suriyahfish

[sailingaway]

For those just reading the thread....

Right now the credential committee is checking credentials and there are speakers talking to the caucus. This could be a long process so not much will happen for awhile except listening to a bunch of boring speeches.

Well, and watching you strip search the bald guy....

[Okie RP fan]

Just talking for now, nothing special.

[Okie RP fan]

Lol, uh, I think the rent is too damn high guy is here...

[PatriotOne]

Well, and watching you strip search the bald guy....

hehe...

[MozoVote]

For those just reading the thread....

Right now the credential committee is checking credentials and there are speakers talking to the caucus. This could be a long process so not much will happen for awhile except listening to a bunch of boring speeches.This sounds familiar. I have seen the NCGOP waste an hour and a half on "filler" while they work on the credentials.

[Bastiat's The Law]

This sounds familiar. I have seen the NCGOP waste an hour and a half on "filler" while they work on the credentials.
The old guard certainly aren't efficient are they?

[Dogsoldier]

Yes my life is watching state conventions and drinking beer all day.I am not ashamed.:toady:

[XTreat]

Ahh he was gonna say the numbers and sound cut out!

[georgiaboy]

For those just reading the thread....

Right now the credential committee is checking credentials and there are speakers talking to the caucus. This could be a long process so not much will happen for awhile except listening to a bunch of boring speeches.

Boring? C'mon, get your rah rah on for the G.O.P!

[PatriotOne]

Boring? C'mon, get your rah rah on for the G.O.P!

I can't as their speeches are being filtered through my bullshit detector :D.

[MozoVote]

Oklahoma is not a cultural fit for Romney whatsoever. Even if that hall is filled with people who do not like Paul, I suspect there are many unhappy delegates there regardless.

[Constitutional Paulicy]

For those of you watching the feed, does there appear to be a disproportionate number of seniors?

[CrissyNY]

For those of you watching the feed, does there appear to be a disproportionate number of seniors?

I can only see the backs of peoples heads.........

but they are mostly not-grey backs of heads i would say

[Okie RP fan]

It is actually a good mix of people. They did a hand count of people who are new this year, and about 1/3 raised their hands, most being our people, but, not all.

I think we have good numbers, we will just have to wait and see.

Still just talking. They are waiting for the minority report, I think. Or credentials, I forget which they said.

[Barrex]

It is actually a good mix of people. They did a hand count of people who are new this year, and about 1/3 raised their hands, most being our people, but, not all.

I think we have good numbers, we will just have to wait and see.

Still just talking. They are waiting for the minority report, I think. Or credentials, I forget which they said.

What is your definition of good numbers? 50%+1? 666?

[sailingaway]

yeah, a third sounds push-around-able, but maybe some of our people were there in 2008....

I think that was not a good idea for people to raise hands, they obviously were trying to get our numbers as they did in Colorado and lower in the process in Nevada. But also, many of our people may have recognized that, and may not have raised their hands.

[PatriotOne]

Anna Bavido‏@AnnaBavido

#okgop they haven't separated delegates from guests in anything hut words. Someone needs to start checking badges fast.

[digitaldean]

What is your definition of good numbers? 50%+1? 666?

Also want to know this. Does Paul have 51% of the room?

[PatriotOne]

Credential reports done

[PatriotOne]

Temp Chairman trying to make a case for him to be elected to the perm chair.

[XTreat]

This guy talking is about to get his feelings hurt.

Nevermind!

[PatriotOne]

Also want to know this. Does Paul have 51% of the room?

We usually don't know for sure until the first important vote is taken,

[PatriotOne]

Wait! What did I miss? A Ron Paul moment happened and I was only 1/2 listening.m Is this still the temp chair speaking or is it someone else? Who is the temp chair right now?

[RabbitMan]

Whats the situation on the ground?

[RDM]

Whats the situation on the ground?

Read much?

[Okie RP fan]

How did the crowd sound after the temp. chair gave a shout out to Dr. Paul?

Rabbitman, we are just starting. I do not know about the chairs intentions.

[RabbitMan]

Well, people are confused about the chair speaking right now and whether he is an actual RP supporter or just a wolf-in-sheeps clothing trying to get voted in.

[PatriotOne]

Discussing whether people who joined registration line after 9 a.m. should get credentials.

[PatriotOne]

Vote passed to include them Both RP and Romney camp leaders motioned their supporters to pass.

[MozoVote]

Here we go again with the late registration stuff, like in Nevada. Gonna be more time spent...

[rb3b3]

can someone remind me how the state of oklahoma works? are the delegates binding? or non binding

[PatriotOne]

Gotta step away for a little bit. Anyone else watching stream pls post anything significant.

[PatriotOne]

Here we go again with the late registration stuff, like in Nevada. Gonna be more time spent...

I can't remember how many there were but it was only like 10 or so ppl.

[dancjm]

We are underway.

Chair is excellent, telling people they can replace him if they want, they can overrule him if they want.

Even opened by saying in 76 Ron Paul was his conservative mentor for GOP delegates, and he got his chance and the conservative movement got its start thanks to people like Dr Paul & Ronald Reagan. :D

[sailingaway]

I hope it is sincere. We have just had problems when we don't replace the chair -- AFTER it starts going a way the party doesn't want it to. But I don't care who the chair is if they are actually fair.

[RabbitMan]

I hear there are two streams of the OK convention, with one of them narrating. Anyone got a link?

[Ranger29860]

I hear there are two streams of the OK convention, with one of them narrating. Anyone got a link?

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/suriyahfish

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/ok-gop-state-convention---jake-peters-ron-paul-delegate

[PatriotOne]

I've never figured out the name of the temp chair. Anyone know his name?

[PatriotOne]

Lots and lots of booing when speaker encouraged caucus to elect Mitt Romney. That was encouraging.

[Okie RP fan]

Fallin screwed up there. They have been gauging our support here the whole time.

[RabbitMan]

What was that going on just now? Booing, chanting, back and forthing...

EDIT: Wait, that was a test of our support?

[Ranger29860]

holy cow

[Ranger29860]

What was that going on just now? Booing, chanting, back and forthing...

She supported Romney then we Paul supporters booed here she says must be a lot of Obama lovers in here then said we have a nominee

[Okie RP fan]

What was that going on just now? Booing, chanting, back and forthing...

EDIT: Wait, that was a test of our support?

Our governor said Romney is the nominee. She then called dissenters Obama supporters.

They are gauging our support. We let them know we are here.

[MozoVote]

A statement like that may deserve to be objected to. "We are all credentialed Republicans here"

[PatriotOne]

Okie...

Have they seperated the visitors from the credentialed yet? If not, someone should make a motion to do that before the voting begins.

[dancjm]

Mitt Romney OWNZ!






A horse.

[PatriotOne]

Guests now being separated (back of room).

[PatriotOne]

Rut ro. Was that a lot of Romney supporters I heard cheering :eek:.

[TXcarlosTX]

Chair just got a feel for the crowd. Sounds like we are out numbered by the cheers. I'm just saying....

[Dogsoldier]

that appluase sounded like we are outnumbered by quite a bit...

[PatriotOne]

Ashley Hahn‏@AshleyDHahn

To the @ronpaul supporters at the #OKGOPconvention.....You must be wanting to make me mad! You did not just boo the Governor! #rude

[Okie RP fan]

They are trying to remove guests. Now, we are back to the speeches while the credentials committee finishes their business.

They have gauged our support, they are just playing games now. Were the cheers pretty different?

[PatriotOne]

Chair just got a feel for the crowd. Sounds like we are out numbered by the cheers. I'm just saying....

I am concerned. It was kind of hard to tell though since one RP supporter screamed so loud in the microhone it kind of drowned out everything else to me.

[PatriotOne]

Not to mention I think the person streaming is in the back with the visitors.

[PatriotOne]

Another twitter feed:

#OKGOPconvention

[digitaldean]

Chair just got a feel for the crowd. Sounds like we are out numbered by the cheers. I'm just saying....

Yea sounds that way. Oh well lets hope we have more people in AZ or win 3-4 of the CD's from Virginia today.

[BKom]

Sounds like we may be outnumbered. That merely means it is more important than ever: DO NOT SPLIT YOUR TICKET. If Ron Paul supporters vote for the straight slate, there will probably be enough Romney supporters voting for themselves that we will still win.

[Barrex]

Another twitter feed:

#OKGOPconvention

What are others?

[Tod]

Not to mention I think the person streaming is in the back with the visitors.

Why do you think that? Looks like she is very near the Atoka county sign? Although there are a lot of people walking past her phone...

[John of Des Moines]

When's lunch?

[PatriotOne]

Why do you think that? Looks like she is very near the Atoka county sign? Although there are a lot of people walking past her phone...

I think I saw suriyahfish say it on the chat feed. Sure is a lot of people moving around her right now for sure. Seems like guest like activity.

[PatriotOne]

Revised credentials report being read #okgop

[PatriotOne]

Jamison Faught‏@JamisonFaught

New credentials number is 1,318 delegates. #okgop

[jemuf]

Rut ro. Was that a lot of Romney supporters I heard cheering :eek:.

From Reddit: Paul delegates on the floor are reporting they only have 600-700 delegates out of approximately 2,000. They are going to try to replace the convention head, but the guys on the stream said they just don't have the votes for it.

[alucard13mmfmj]

=(

[sailingaway]

From Reddit: Paul delegates on the floor are reporting they only have 600-700 delegates out of approximately 2,000. They are going to try to replace the convention head, but the guys on the stream said they just don't have the votes for it.

should they even try then? If they don't have the votes sometimes that is a go for the throat signal to the other side. Have they tried to work out a proportionality deal? Sorry for coming in in the middle.

[RabbitMan]

Wait...600-700 out of 2,000? But the credentials committee just said there were 1,300....

[sailingaway]

From Reddit: Paul delegates on the floor are reporting they only have 600-700 delegates out of approximately 2,000. They are going to try to replace the convention head, but the guys on the stream said they just don't have the votes for it.

didn't the credentials number above say 1318? In that case the difference between whether we have 600 or 700 is pretty key.

[Okie RP fan]

We need to pass this motion for competing slates, I think.

There were 2,000 registered delegates, with only 1,318 attending

[John of Des Moines]

If there's 600 to 700 RP supporters you got to work with the Santorum and Newt people.

[sailingaway]

We need to pass this motion for competing slates, I think.

You need to remove the chair? too bad if he's a good guy. I don't know if we know our exact numbers, maybe use this as a test vote to find out.

[sailingaway]

If there's 600 to 700 RP supporters you got to work with the Santorum and Newt people.

Yeah, the ones who aren't automatically going to Romney because there is the Santorum chair of the state, now a Romney staffer standing them who knows them and is leading them to do that......

If we have 600 and the delegates are 1310 we need to cut a deal. If we have 700 of 1310 we are golden. Then it is a matter of what is right in that particular state. If we are unsure and CAN cut a deal to give SOME delegates to the santa/grinch folks (ones where they can actually root for their pet causes and not be absorbed into the Romney Borg at RNC) and keep plurality, great, and fall backs go from there. But everything comes down to the numbers.

[dancjm]

Did the Chair just rule the Minority Report out of order, and then we moved to overrule the Chair and succeeded?

[Okie RP fan]

You need to remove the chair? too bad if he's a good guy. I don't know if we know our exact numbers, maybe use this as a test vote to find out.

I am getting mixed up, but, I think that was to establish competing slates. And, I think we just lost. We have a few people arguing.

[dancjm]

Did the Chair just rule the Minority Report out of order, and then we moved to overrule the Chair and succeeded?

Or did we fail?

[sailingaway]

Can you get division of vote physically to check the vote?

[PatriotOne]

From Reddit: Paul delegates on the floor are reporting they only have 600-700 delegates out of approximately 2,000. They are going to try to replace the convention head, but the guys on the stream said they just don't have the votes for it.

Only 1318 credentialed delegates so not sure where Reddit poster is getting their info.

[PatriotOne]

I am getting mixed up, but, I think that was to establish competing slates. And, I think we just lost. We have a few people arguing.

I think it was a motion to introduce an additional slate. No idea if it was our slate or not. I'm confused also. The sound on the stream isn't very clear. Too far away and too many people talking near the microphone.

[XTreat]

here we go. They are moving for a up/down vote on executive slate.

[digitaldean]

Or did we fail?

Yea lets hope we win AZ since this seems to be lost.

[Ranger29860]

here we go. They are moving for a up/down vote on executive slate.

If this fails its over for OK by my understanding

[PatriotOne]

chael Bates‏@BatesLine

Amendment on the floor: Allow head-to-head vote of exec slate vs alt (i.e. Ron Paul) slates #okgop

[evandeck]

Hey I just started watching. Can anyone give a brief summary on what's going on and how things are looking for us please? Thanks

[jemuf]

didn't the credentials number above say 1318? In that case the difference between whether we have 600 or 700 is pretty key.

Based on new info the Reddit comment was inaccurate. There are 1318 delegates in participation.

Some anti-Paul idiot (@BatesLine) on Twitter seems to be at the convention. He tweeted that Paul supporters lost the first procedural vote.

#OKGOP is one Twitter hastag to follow.

[rb3b3]

ok just got home from work, i am now tuning in...can someone tell me if we have the numbers in ok? do we have 51%>

[PatriotOne]

Shouldn't the first vote be to who the permanent chair is? Why hasn't that been done yet?

[KMX]

Praying

[IPSecure]

Wow, the most important topic is hurry up, we want to go home?

[rb3b3]

DOES ANYONE KNOW IF WE have 51% of the room or not?

[Dogsoldier]

Don't know.I thought we had to vote on the chair first?

[BKom]

It doesn't look like we have the room. But this vote on the rules will definitely tell you whether we do or not. If the amendment passes, then we have it. If not, then we can go about our lives and mourn for Oklahoma.

[BKom]

Don't know.I thought we had to vote on the chair first?

I think they voted on the chair. And frankly, even if they didn't, he seems to be about the fairest, most even-handed chair I've ever seen.

[Ranger29860]

ok i am sooooo lost wth is going on?

[BKom]

ok i am sooooo lost wth is going on?

They are voting on whether to change the rules to allow competing slates or to go with the original rules, which only allow for an up or down vote on the candidate committee's slate (which I'm pretty sure won't have a single Paul delegate.)

[gte811i]

It doesn't look like we have the room. But this vote on the rules will definitely tell you whether we do or not. If the amendment passes, then we have it. If not, then we can go about our lives and mourn for Oklahoma.

This is very similar to what happened at our District Convention in GA, except with more people.

A motion was made to pass delegates by slate, it passed.

Immediately afterward they made a motion to accept the slate, which in effect closes nominations and that requires a 2/3rd vote.

This vote seems backwards, unless a rule was passed by 2/3rd majority there shouldn't need to be a vote to have further nominations.

From what I've seen, RPers are screwed here . . .

[dancjm]

I think this is what happened:

Someone tried to introduce the Minority Report
The Chair ruled them out of order
They moved to overrule the chair
They lost the vote
They moved to amend the rules to introduce the Minority Report
This is what they are voting on now.

If it passes, the vote will be on the 2 slates 1 Vs 1 (Paul Vs Establishment slates).

If it fails (the rules having not been amended) there will be an up or down vote on the existing (establishment) slate only.

If that then fails there will have to be nominations from the floor, and it will be a long day.

[John of Des Moines]

Okay, this is getting serious. Exactly when is lunch? I've got this blood-sugar issue and if I don't eat on a regular basis I get kind of surly.

[digitaldean]

I think this is what happened:

Someone tried to introduce the Minority Report
The Chair ruled them out of order
They moved to overrule the chair
They lost the vote
They moved to amend the rules to introduce the Minority Report
This is what they are voting on now.

If it passes, the vote will be on the 2 slates 1 Vs 1 (Paul Vs Establishment slates).

If it fails (the rules having not been amended) there will be an up or down vote on the existing (establishment) slate only.

If that then fails there will have to be nominations from the floor, and it will be a long day.

Does this last vote need 2/3 or just 51%? If we need 51% all we would need is over 700 people.

[dancjm]

Does this last vote need 2/3 or just 51%? If we need 51% all we would need is over 700 people.

I think it would be 51% but I'm not sure on that.

EDIT: Apparently, yes its %51. :)

EDIT: That is the vote for the slate (the last vote), the vote to suspend the rules though I think maybe 2/3.

[gte811i]

So from what I've heard it's slightly confusing.

IMO for slates it's a two step process:
A.1) vote on a nominating slate to become an electing slate
A.2) vote on electing slate to become delegates

The process that happened was:
B.1) A rule was passed that only allowed the executive committee's slate to be voted on (i.e. to be make that the defacto electing slate)
B.2) if above failes then nominations from the floor will occur to

This motion is to overturn that rule and make it so
C.1) Another slate can be introduced and make an actual vote occur between nominating slates
C.2) then once a nominating slate is voted to be an electing slate a vote can occur to become delegates

From my interpretation of the rules, it requires a 2/3rd vote to close nominations (i.e. to close the 1st step A.1 OR to pass B.1 listed above). So the establishment is basically trying an end-around the 2/3rd vote to close nominations.

[XTreat]

Makes me ill to watch these establishment hacks tout freedom.

[Lightweis]

what is happening

[XTreat]

Nay are good for us I believe.

That will bring up a up/down vote on the executive slate.

If that slate fails then the floor will be open to nominations or we can motion to adopt our slate.

I could be wrong of course.

[Barrex]

Ashley Hahn ‏ @AshleyDHahn (https://twitter.com/#%21/AshleyDHahn) Embarrassing! The @ronpaul (https://twitter.com/#%21/ronpaul) supporters just boo'd and chanted during Tim Pawlentys speech! #rudeagain (https://twitter.com/#%21/search/%23rudeagain)! He's our guest! #OKGOPconvention (https://twitter.com/#%21/search/%23OKGOPconvention)



What happened?

[PatriotOne]

Nay are good for us I believe.



We want yeahs. It's not sounding good.

[Ranger29860]

Nay are good for us I believe.

That will bring up a up/down vote on the executive slate.

If that slate fails then the floor will be open to nominations or we can motion to adopt our slate.

I could be wrong of course.

No nay = up/down

up/down means we have to defeat it to get nominations from the floor. If this fails we lose

[dancjm]

Nay are good for us I believe.

That will bring up a up/down vote on the executive slate.

If that slate fails then the floor will be open to nominations or we can motion to adopt our slate.

I could be wrong of course.

you are right, but it would be quicker to just have a competing vote and be done with it.

[PatriotOne]

Paulbot rules amendment getting shut out in most rural counties. Small counties reporting 1st #okgop


Come on big counties!

[Lightweis]

i think were losing here right?

[XTreat]

No nay = up/down

up/down means we have to defeat it to get nominations from the floor. If this fails we lose

No if this fails we have a head to head vote, our slate vs. theirs.

[RabbitMan]

Ugh, I wish our supporters were more respectful. We are PART of the Party! Booing guests is out of line, unless we want all of our speakers to be boo'd as well.

[sailingaway]

Booing guests is DEFINITELY out of line. ARe we sure it is us and not Romney folks trying to make us look bad? They have done that before.

[Ranger29860]

No if this fails we have a head to head vote, our slate vs. theirs.

This is a motion to amend to allow a competting slates. So Naye = bad

[gte811i]

No nay = up/down

up/down means we have to defeat it to get nominations from the floor. If this fails we lose

Yeap . . . they in effect turned a 2/3rd vote to close nominations into a majority vote to close nominations.

Screwed . . .

[RabbitMan]

Booing guests is DEFINITELY out of line. ARe we sure it is us and not Romney folks trying to make us look bad? They have done that before.

It is definitely us.

[XTreat]

This is a motion to amend to allow a competting slates. So Naye = bad

why is competing slates bad?

[Yowan]

Can someone define what the yay and nay are in this vote? Thanks!

[Ranger29860]

why is competing slates bad?

there not thats why NAY to allow them is BAD

[gte811i]

Yeap . . . they in effect turned a 2/3rd vote to close nominations into a majority vote to close nominations.

Screwed . . .

Which is really stupid, it's obvious they have the votes to pass their slate; the establishment wants to go home.

It would be quicker and less contentious if they allowed a competing slate, allowed people 3-5 min. debate then take a vote on the nominating slate.

[XTreat]

there not thats why NAY to allow them is BAD

yes but if it goes to up/down on executive vote we can just vote it down if we have the numbers. If we don't have the numbers then we wouldn't win head to head anyways.

I don't even see where this is significant.

[Lightweis]

What is the count

[RabbitMan]

I think the idea is that if they are merely voting on whose slate is going to the convention, since we are outnumbered it is bad, allows to concentrate their votes as if they were all organized like us. If you are simply voting for individuals...things can happen. People get confused. People vote for themselves. And organization wins. right?

[dancjm]

No if this fails we have a head to head vote, our slate vs. theirs.

No, if this passes we have a head to head vote. If it fails its just a vote on the Romney slate.

[XTreat]

No, if this passes we have a head to head vote. If it fails its just a vote on the Romney slate.

right, i just typed it wrong.

[ClydeCoulter]

So it seems Romney has a much larger crowd in OK?

[PatriotOne]

So it seems Romney has a much larger crowd in OK?

Sorry to say yes. I hope Arizona is going better.

[Lightweis]

damn establishment!!!!

[ClydeCoulter]

I guess I better go till the garden......:(

[Tiso0770]

How can they vote without a chair being elected?, just reading off chat.

[PatriotOne]

OK hasn't even gone to lunch yet and it's 2p over there. We need lunch and a change of strategy.

[PatriotOne]

How can they vote without a chair being elected?, just reading off chat.

I wonder also but chair is being fair so far. Romney just has the numbers there. Not much we can do about that.

[Tiso0770]

Another one chats....The BOARD selected their own slate ?? They didn't caucus on delegates ???.

[Okie RP fan]

Sorry everyone... looks like we lost the motion for competing slates.

we have one guy running for natl committeeman who seems pretty Paul friendly and has stated he will support Paul. i wont say his name yet, though.

[Okie RP fan]

Sorry everyone... looks like we lost the motion for competing slates.

we have one guy running for natl committeeman who seems pretty Paul friendly and has stated he will support Paul. i wont say his name yet, though.

[RonRules]

HUGE overvotes in OK. Big problem!

83 overvotes!!!

[PointsOfOrder]

Did they pull a Nevada and have the guests voting too?

[PatriotOne]

Sorry everyone... looks like we lost the motion for competing slates.

we have one guy running for natl committeeman who seems pretty Paul friendly and has stated he will support Paul. i wont say his name yet, though.

Heard it. Sounds like we were outnumbered by about ~300 votes there. Make some friends and build some bridges with the Romulans anyways.

[PatriotOne]

83 overvotes? WTH!!! This is getting hot now.

[RDM]

Sorry to say yes. I hope Arizona is going better.

It wasn't like we didn't know in advance they would.

[RonRules]

The (temp) chair just wanted to revote the only the overvoted counties. That's WRONG.

If there was such fraud, it's very likely that fraudulent votes were also included in all the other counties that were not overvoted.

1) We need a new chair,

2) We need the credentials report

3) We need a total re-vote!!

[Okie RP fan]

Numbers arent adding up. Something like a 200 vote difference.

[KingRobbStark]

The vote numbers are not making any sense.