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Philosophy_of_Politics
05-09-2012, 07:14 PM
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/president-obama-signs-executive-order-establishing-council-governors

Divides the country into 10 Districts.

Philosophy_of_Politics
05-09-2012, 07:19 PM
This = Goodbye 10th Amendment

ZENemy
05-09-2012, 07:30 PM
LOL Alex Jones has been talking about this for over 10 years...

specsaregood
05-09-2012, 07:36 PM
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/president-obama-signs-executive-order-establishing-council-governors
Divides the country into 10 Districts.

Divide it into 10 countries and then maybe we'll be getting somewhere good.

bluesc
05-09-2012, 07:38 PM
Sounds like preparation.

James Madison
05-09-2012, 07:43 PM
Looks like this is from 2010. Still disturbing, though.

ZENemy
05-09-2012, 07:44 PM
NDAA
NDRP
HR347
UN laws imposed on us
legislation to control the sea's
And now this shit.


what did I miss? lets play a game...

Brian4Liberty
05-09-2012, 07:45 PM
The formation of the Council of Governors was required by the Fiscal Year 2008 National Defense Authorization Act which stated, “The President shall establish a bipartisan Council of Governors to advise the Secretary of Defense, the Secretary of Homeland Security, and the White House Homeland Security Council on matters related to the National Guard and civil support missions.”* (NDAA FY2008, Sec 1822)]

It seems that this was passed in 2008 by the Congress.

Nothing good will come of it. It will result in more spending (there is no way that it can't). No doubt they will also end up trampling the Constitution, and they will claim that they have the buy-in of all the States due to the presence of the chosen Governors.

Zippyjuan
05-09-2012, 07:45 PM
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/president-obama-signs-executive-order-establishing-council-governors

Divides the country into 10 Districts.

It is already divided into 50 of them.

anaconda
05-09-2012, 08:01 PM
Obama is the most extreme example of a complete puppet.

John F Kennedy III
05-09-2012, 08:10 PM
LOL Alex Jones has been talking about this for over 10 years...

But he's a nutjob conspiracy theorist that can't be trusted. Links or it didn't happen. Then of course I'll either argue the trustworthiness of the source or ignore your post altogether instead of actually discussing the topic.

ZENemy
05-09-2012, 08:20 PM
But he's a nutjob conspiracy theorist that can't be trusted. Links or it didn't happen. Then of course I'll either argue the trustworthiness of the source or ignore your post altogether instead of actually discussing the topic.

Plus he sells evil water filters! Finally we know his real motives! To be the water filter king!!

KCIndy
05-09-2012, 08:28 PM
Obama screwed up again, there are supposed to be twelve districts plus a "nuked" thirteen. I call dibs on District Twelve and Katniss! ;)

John F Kennedy III
05-09-2012, 08:30 PM
Plus he sells evil water filters! Finally we know his real motives! To be the water filter king!!

Lol I forgot the "he's just in it to sell products" angle.

dillo
05-09-2012, 08:37 PM
People will be sitting in interment camps, with the world being rules by bikers and still call alex jones a nutjob

row333au
05-09-2012, 08:48 PM
What is the use of this order?
What crisis is coming that we all don’t know about?
Why is it being set-up as like a centralizing of power and relieving the states and local rights to vote and protest against federal authority and law?
What civil disobedience is happening right now that is rampant where mob killing needs to be controlled?
What large scale catastrophe is occurring to emplace such strong authorities and laws?
Why was there no presentation of the people or referendum to pass this laws?
Why pass it without main media news (reported only through vigilant independent journalist and news network)?
Why must we have or why the need for a force?

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Official Whitehouse Government Press Office of President Obama webpage:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/president-obama-signs-executive-order-establishing-council-governors

Official Executive Order (attached) PDF. below:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/2010executive_order.pdf

THE WHITE HOUSE
Office of the Press Secretary
For Immediate Release January 11, 2010

ESTABLISHMENT OF THE COUNCIL OF GOVERNORS By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America,including section 1822 of the National Defense Authorization Act of 2008 (Public Law 110-181), and in order to strengthen further the partnership between the Federal Government and State governments to protect our Nation and its people and property,it is hereby ordered as follows:

Section 1. Council of Governors.
(a) There is established a Council of Governors (Council). The Council shall consist of 10 State Governors appointed by the President (Members), of whom no more than five shall be of the same political party. The term of service for each Member appointed to serve on the Council shall be 2 years, but a Member may be reappointed for additional terms.

(b) The President shall designate two Members, who shall not be members of the same political party, to serve as Co-Chairs of the Council.

Sec. 2. Functions. The Council shall meet at the call of the Secretary of Defense or the Co-Chairs of the Council to exchange views, information, or advice with the Secretary of Defense; the Secretary of Homeland Security; the Assistant to the President for Homeland Security and Counter terrorism; the Assistant to the President for Intergovernmental Affairs and Public Engagement; the Assistant Secretary of Defense for Homeland Defense and Americas' Security Affairs; the Commander, United States Northern Command; the Chief, National Guard Bureau; the Commandant of the Coast Guard; and other appropriate officials of the Department of Homeland Security and the Department of Defense, and appropriate officials of other executive departments or agencies as may be designated by the Secretary of Defense or the Secretary of Homeland Security. Such views, information, or advice shall concern:

(a) matters involving the National Guard of the various States;

(b) homeland defense;

(c) civil support;

(d) synchronization and integration of State and Federal military activities in the United States; and

(e) other matters of mutual interest pertaining to National Guard, homeland defense, and civil support activities.

Sec. 3. Administration.

(a) The Secretary of Defense shall designate an Executive Director to coordinate the work of the Council.

(b) Members shall serve without compensation for their work on the Council. However, Members shall be allowed travel expenses, including per diem in lieu of subsistence, as authorized by law.

(c) Upon the joint request of the Co-Chairs of the Council, the Secretary of Defense shall, to the extent permitted by law and subject to the availability of appropriations, provide the Council with administrative support, assignment or detail of personnel, and information as may be necessary for the performance of the Council's functions.

(d) The Council may establish subcommittees of the Council. These subcommittees shall consist exclusively of Members of the Council and any designated employees of a Member with authority to act on the Member's behalf, as appropriate to aid the Council in carrying out its functions under this order.

(e) The Council may establish a charter that is consistent with the terms of this order to refine further its purpose,scope, and objectives and to allocate duties, as appropriate,among members.

Sec. 4. Definitions. As used in this order:

(a) the term "State" has the meaning provided in paragraph (15) of section 2 of the Homeland Security Act of 2002(6 U.S.C. 101(15)); and

(b) the term "Governor" has the meaning provided in paragraph (5) of section 102 of the Robert T. Stafford Disaster Relief and Emergency Assistance Act (42 U.S.C. 5122(5)).

Sec. 5. General Provisions.

(a) Nothing in this order shall be construed to impair or otherwise affect:

(1) the authority granted by law to a department, agency, or the head thereof; or

(2) functions of the Director of the Office of Management and Budget relating to budgetary,administrative, or legislative proposals.

(b) This order shall be implemented consistent with applicable law and subject to the availability of appropriations.

(c) This order is not intended to, and does not, create any right or benefit, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law or in equity by any party against the United States, its departments, agencies, or entities, its officers, employees, or agents, or any other person.

BARACK OBAMA
THE WHITE HOUSE,January 11, 2010.

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No other interpretation other than for this declaration as to further the strangle hold of power over the government by decree without constitutional process. This will enable to pass further unification of a North American Union, over turn and eliminate congressional decisions and authorities, and other constitutional rights by state, local and individuals as it morphs the departmental, councils and military controls and span of authorities into a federal control.

Such are to what is being implemented with Presidential Decision Directive 51 and the Councils of Governors Executive Order overrides the Constitution and Bill of Rights including the Posse Comitatus and Habeas Corpus. Because the stipulation of a directive of the executive in chief as directed by the President via the Secretary of Defense, are subject to control the Regional Military Governor and executed by Northcom troopers who now include U.S. , Canadian, Mexican, and other Foreign troops as well as contract authorities and the States' National Guards, Militias, and Police agencies.

It will be coordinated at the state level, under the authority of DHS and DoD and assorted agencies. The provision will be made for it to be ‘federalized’ in an emergency, as is the National Guard. This action will eliminate the independent authority and dissolving the sovereignty of the several States. It lays the groundwork for the end a republic state.

As in evidence with the Rand Corp (civilian contractor for military adviser) recommendation to the US Army to Implement a National Stability Police Force.

http://docs.google.com/viewer?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rand.org%2Fpubs%2Fmono graphs%2F2009%2FRAND_MG819.pdf

The report recommends that these police (compose of international and civilian) or SPF, the ability to act in a law enforcement capacity while in the United States or in its mainstream authority (would not only have a role in foreign deployments but also in the United States).

As quoted: “One important aspect of an SPF option is what SPF personnel do when not deployed. Given that an SPF will be deployed one out of every three years at most for active duty options and one out of six for reserve options, whether its members can perform law enforcement functions and so contribute to domestic tranquility and homeland defense when not deployed will have a major impact on whether an option is cost-effective.”

Two categories of options—(1) military units and (2) contractors—cannot do so under current statutes and regulations.

Well all its saying is that the military can organize civilian (present association is the acorn or Obama youth movement) to become SPF stability police force to be authorize representative of the police and military within the civilian population. The use of foreign personnel is to take out the affinity and empathy elements to ensure that orders are done without reservations.

Exactly what comprises a 'civilian national security force' ?

‘Diplomatic offices, agricultural specialists and Peace Corp type organizations, not a para-military organization at all, it just involves the giving authority as a police’ as what was said by the President Obama. This is contradiction compare to the facts that by the way the set up is as an armed police organization militia and not the explained speech.

There is no definite purpose to this – to initialize steps toward a domestic ‘Civilian Security Force’ in each state, as called for by the US President during his campaign being un-American or even un-democratic state.

“We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we've set. We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded." – Then Democratic Presidential Candidate and now US President Barack Hussein Obama


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tt2yGzHfy7s

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/executive-order-amending-executive-order-12425

Background: the original Executive Order by Reagan is The International Organizations Immunities Act does allow protections from taxes, duties and searches/seizures to international groups meaning they can effectively exist here in the United States tax free and their agents receive diplomatic immunity. It does not however grant them policing powers within the United States. The new amendments by Obama is allowing the European policing agency Interpol to seize American citizens property and assets, and further immunity for persecution.

Martial law is the system of rules that takes effect when the military takes control of the normal administration of justice.

Usually martial law reduces some of the personal rights ordinarily granted to the citizen, limits the length of the trial processes, and prescribes more severe penalties than ordinary law. In many states martial law prescribes the death penalty for certain crimes, even if ordinary law does not contain that crime or punishment in its system.

Originally martial law was imposed during wars or occupations to let the government control population more effectively in spite of heightened unrest. Nowadays it is most commonly used by authoritarian governments to enforce their rule, for example after coup d'état (Thailand 2006), when threatened by popular protests (PRC 1989), or to crack down on the opposition (Poland 1981), as same with Philippines under President Marcos to further extent the corporations over the citizens. Martial law can also be declared in cases of major natural disasters, however most countries use a different legal construct like "state of emergency".

In many countries martial law imposes particular rules, one of which is curfew. Often, under this system, the administration of justice is left to a military tribunal, called a court-martial. The suspension of the writ of habeas corpus is likely to occur.

Are the Americans like being ‘hoodwink’ to believe in words rather than reality. People who wants to control others don't talk about freedom.

Reference to read:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_order_%28United_States%29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posse_Comitatus_Act

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/16947_1338264098476_1287347566_31008728_1724825_n. jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/16947_1338264738492_1287347566_31008729_5139730_n. jpg

http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4033/4349811346_1f795b3725_b.jpg

In the words of Rep. Ron Paul:

"...the fusion centers, militarized police, surveillance cameras and a domestic military command is not enough... Even though we know that detention facilities are already in place, they now want to legalize the construction of FEMA camps on military installations using the ever popular excuse that the facilities are for the purposes of a national emergency. With the phony debt-based economy getting worse and worse by the day, the possibility of civil unrest is becoming a greater threat to the establishment. One need only look at Iceland, Greece and other nations for what might happen in the United States next." (Daily Paul, September 2008, emphasis added)

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_qUFDMUpk9jE/ScaLa4eZETI/AAAAAAAAQt8/E_l-4Sx9enI/s1600/halliburton-concentration-campsp5.jpg

http://news.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474978160128

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_qUFDMUpk9jE/Scc8anktExI/AAAAAAAAQuk/sgBqBRqkeSM/s1600/Homeland_Security_Regions_Map.png

FEMA AND Fusion centers locations

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_qUFDMUpk9jE/ScaLE_ePToI/AAAAAAAAQt0/6XF4jX1_P9s/s1600/GOOGLE+EARTH+-+FEMA+CAMPS.jpg

John F Kennedy III
05-09-2012, 09:59 PM
People will be sitting in interment camps, with the world being rules by bikers and still call alex jones a nutjob

+rep for truth

specsaregood
05-09-2012, 10:02 PM
People will be sitting in interment camps, with the world being rules by bikers and still call alex jones a nutjob

wow, you aj fanbois even get butthurt with each other in a thread where nobody is hating on jones. it is almost like you guys like the hurt.

Eisenhower
05-09-2012, 10:05 PM
Divide it into 10 countries and then maybe we'll be getting somewhere good.

THIS. This is not new at all.

dillo
05-09-2012, 10:45 PM
wow, you aj fanbois even get butthurt with each other in a thread where nobody is hating on jones. it is almost like you guys like the hurt.

I really dont like AJ, hes pretty neutral to me

NewRightLibertarian
05-09-2012, 10:48 PM
wow, you aj fanbois even get butthurt with each other in a thread where nobody is hating on jones. it is almost like you guys like the hurt.

It is worth lampooning truth deniers like yourself in threads like this where the information proves him decisively right.

row333au
05-09-2012, 11:23 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YR-FC7sUrHM&feature=youtu.be

azxd
05-10-2012, 08:38 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNvcEkvEMoc

robertwerden
05-10-2012, 08:53 AM
I am struggling to find in the executive order the nefarious nature being perpetrated. Can someone please show me where there is something "hunger games scary" in the executive order?

specsaregood
05-10-2012, 09:02 AM
truth deniers like yourself ...

thanks sgt! that might be the nicest thing you have ever said to me!

Kelly.
05-10-2012, 09:14 AM
"welcome to military district 7, say i see your papers please"

azxd
05-10-2012, 09:25 AM
I am struggling to find in the executive order the nefarious nature being perpetrated. Can someone please show me where there is something "hunger games scary" in the executive order?It's hiding in the comments @ prisonplanetDOTcom

LibertyEagle
05-10-2012, 09:52 AM
Where does it say that it is dividing the country into 10 districts?

I see this, but that does not say it is doing any dividing.


The bipartisan Council will be composed of ten State Governors who will be selected by the President to serve two year terms. In selecting the Governors to the Council, the White House will solicit input from Governors and Governors’ associations. Once chosen, the Council will have no more than five members from the same party and represent the Nation as a whole.

LibertyEagle
05-10-2012, 09:54 AM
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/president-obama-signs-executive-order-establishing-council-governors

Divides the country into 10 Districts.

Where does it say that, because I do not see it?

LibertyEagle
05-10-2012, 10:02 AM
Ok boys, you made the claim, now show where in the government docs it talks about dividing the country into 10 districts.

Xhin
05-10-2012, 02:45 PM
Can someone tell me what the awful implications of this are? It looks like it's just an advisory council composed of elected governors that the president appoints (5 from each party). Imo a good thing since it forces the DHS to take state policies and concerns under consideration.

NewRightLibertarian
05-10-2012, 02:49 PM
Can someone tell me what the awful implications of this are? It looks like it's just an advisory council composed of elected governors that the president appoints (5 from each party). Imo a good thing since it forces the DHS to take state policies and concerns under consideration.

It sounds like steps toward a martial law takeover to me. Combine this with the recent one that allows for a takeover of basically everything in an emergency and yikes

specsaregood
05-10-2012, 02:49 PM
Where does it say that, because I do not see it?

on a sidenote:
When this came out a couple years ago I remember the somewhat interesting part was that the term STATE did not refer to the usual 50states, but it specified that is was using the definition of "state" defined in the patriot act. Which if you read it, includes all the terrorities, protectorates, etc as "states". Which if you use that definition, means Obama was technically correct when back in 2008 he referrred to our "57 states". Technically, this board of governors could have a majority of members that aren't actually governors of actual US states.

jmdrake
05-10-2012, 02:57 PM
Ok boys, you made the claim, now show where in the government docs it talks about dividing the country into 10 districts.

Sometimes you have to read between the lines. Here's the proof that there are 10 FEMA regions.

http://www.fema.gov/about/regions/index.shtm

And the governor's council has 10 members. Why not 50? Coincidence? I'd like to see a list of the governors council and see how they map up to the FEMA regions.

jmdrake
05-10-2012, 03:10 PM
Can someone tell me what the awful implications of this are? It looks like it's just an advisory council composed of elected governors that the president appoints (5 from each party). Imo a good thing since it forces the DHS to take state policies and concerns under consideration.

Why have a council of 10 governors when there are 50 states? And why give the president the discretion to pick and choose which governors the DHS will talk to? Doesn't this give extra power and influence to governors that are more to the presidents liking than others? The "supercommittee" is made up of elected representatives too. But the "supercommittee" itself is outside of our republic.

Zippyjuan
05-10-2012, 03:39 PM
Can someone tell me what the awful implications of this are? It looks like it's just an advisory council composed of elected governors that the president appoints (5 from each party). Imo a good thing since it forces the DHS to take state policies and concerns under consideration.

You are right but it is the fact that it is a GOVERNMENT committee which gets people excited. Its intention must therefore be evil.

LibertyEagle
05-10-2012, 04:49 PM
Why have a council of 10 governors when there are 50 states? And why give the president the discretion to pick and choose which governors the DHS will talk to? Doesn't this give extra power and influence to governors that are more to the presidents liking than others? The "supercommittee" is made up of elected representatives too. But the "supercommittee" itself is outside of our republic.

I know all about that, but there is no indication that I see, in that Executive Order that those governors will be over the FEMA districts. The claim was made in the title. Either it needs to be substantiated, or it needs to be changed.

Zippyjuan
05-10-2012, 05:03 PM
The Ten US Regions (or Standard Federal Regions)- required for ALL executive agencies according to OMB law since 1974:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_regions_of_the_United_States


Standard Federal Regions

The ten standard Federal Regions were established by OMB (Office of Management and Budget) Circular A-105, "Standard Federal Regions," in April, 1974, and required for all executive agencies. In recent years, some agencies have tailored their field structures to meet program needs and facilitate interaction with local, state and regional counterparts. However, the OMB must still approve any departures.
Region I: Connecticut, Maine, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, Rhode Island, Vermont
Region II: New Jersey, New York, Puerto Rico, Virgin Islands
Region III: Delaware, District of Columbia, Maryland, Pennsylvania, Virginia, West Virginia
Region IV: Alabama, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, Mississippi, North Carolina, South Carolina, Tennessee
Region V: Illinois, Indiana, Michigan, Minnesota, Ohio, Wisconsin
Region VI: Arkansas, Louisiana, New Mexico, Oklahoma, Texas
Region VII: Iowa, Kansas, Missouri, Nebraska
Region VIII: Colorado, Montana, North Dakota, South Dakota, Utah, Wyoming
Region IX: Arizona, California, Hawaii, Nevada (American Samoa, Guam, Northern Mariana Islands, Trust Territory of the Pacific Islands)
Region X: Alaska, Idaho, Oregon, Washington