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No Free Beer
05-09-2012, 07:40 AM
I didn't know where to put this, so if it's in the wrong place, I would politely ask one of the mods to move it to the appropriate place.

Anyway, here:

http://offgridsurvival.com/governmentofficialsseizebunkerhome/

Early one Saturday morning, 70-year old retired Air Force reservist and former state employee Joe Del Rio was awoken by a knock on his front door. It was the city of Austin’s local code enforcement team. One of the agents told Mr. Del Rio that he needed to speak to him right away.

After getting dressed Mr. Del Rio went and opened his front door. He was immediately bum rushed by the Austin Police Department’s SWAT Team and then detained and interrogated for over 10 hours.

What was this 70-year old mans crime?

Bunker Bomb Shelter DoorIt seems that the Mr. Del Rio had an underground bunker, and apparently in Austin, Texas that enough to have the SWAT team storm your home and hold you at gun point.

The bunker in question was previously built as a bomb shelter during the cold war. Mr Del Rio had recently renovated part of the old fall out shelter and had been using it as a makeshift workshop.

City of Austin Seizes Property

concrete trucksAfter his ordeal of being detained at gun point, Mr. Del Rio’s problems were far from over. First, the city fenced off his home and prohibited him from entering the residence. They then brought in contractors and completely filled in his entire basement and bunker with 264 tons of concrete.

To add insult to injury the city then sent Mr. Del Rio a bill for $90,000 in repairs, that they say were critical to make his home safe. Shortly later the City seized his property without a penny of compensation. Mr. Del Rio is now in the process of trying to sue the city for what he says is an unconstitutional seizure of his property.

Bern
05-09-2012, 07:50 AM
It's a tragedy for sure. The city of Austin should rightly get reemed in court.

Philhelm
05-09-2012, 08:04 AM
It's hard for me to comprehend how all of those people can assemble in one location to harass another individual for something so trivial. What did they really think that they were accomplishing? Oh wait, that's right...it's all about the power-trip. Fucking tyrants.

presence
05-09-2012, 08:16 AM
Is it time yet?

Kelly.
05-09-2012, 08:22 AM
this is how "domestic terrorists" are created.

this guy will not get justice via the corrupt justice system, and soon, people will start taking matters into their own hands.

No Free Beer
05-09-2012, 08:33 AM
What pisses me off is that

1. the mainstream media doesn't report on it

2. the masses don't give a shit.

I would tell them to get the fuck off of my property.

Hyperion
05-09-2012, 08:36 AM
It's hard for me to comprehend how all of those people can assemble in one location to harass another individual for something so trivial. What did they really think that they were accomplishing? Oh wait, that's right...it's all about the power-trip. Fucking tyrants.

I don't understand how any of the 'law' enforcement agents could look themselves in the mirror for participating in something like this. How terrible.

tod evans
05-09-2012, 08:38 AM
What pisses me off is that

1. the mainstream media doesn't report on it

2. the masses don't give a shit.

I would tell them to get the fuck off of my property.


I'm betting that this old guy did tell them to get off his property....

If he'd told them with the force of munitions then it would have made the news...

"Old guy looses it and the cops grease him for their safety".:mad:

Jovan Galtic
05-09-2012, 08:41 AM
They then brought in contractors and completely filled in his entire basement and bunker with 264 tons of concrete.

OMG... This is insane... :confused:

Hyperion
05-09-2012, 08:43 AM
OMG... This is insane... :confused:

Not only is that terrible but they want the property owner to foot the bill. The city of Austin should be ashamed.

dmo069
05-09-2012, 08:46 AM
1. the mainstream media doesn't report on it

Found it:

http://www.statesman.com/news/local/man-sues-city-over-seizure-of-house-with-2345041.html

angelatc
05-09-2012, 08:47 AM
Not only is that terrible but they want the property owner to foot the bill. The city of Austin should be ashamed.

They are liberals. It was done to keep the children safe, and face it - anybody who doesn't follow the government rules isn't a good citizen.

WilliamC
05-09-2012, 08:49 AM
Is it time yet?

It would have been my time.

RonRules
05-09-2012, 08:57 AM
"They then brought in contractors and completely filled in his entire basement and bunker with 264 tons of concrete. To add insult to injury the city then sent Mr. Del Rio a bill for $90,000 in repairs ..."

What the hell is wrong with this county?!!

Doing that to an Air Force guy is so shameful.

JK/SEA
05-09-2012, 09:08 AM
well, they did him a favor. Now all he has to do is dig down under the concrete and create a better, more re-enforced shelter that can withstand a direct hit from a bunker buster...:D

JWZguy
05-09-2012, 09:11 AM
Ashamed? They need a visit from the KillDozer.

Pericles
05-09-2012, 10:36 AM
I don't understand how any of the 'law' enforcement agents could look themselves in the mirror for participating in something like this. How terrible.

1. Austin no longer belongs in the rest of Texas
2. Import a police chief from California, and ...... you get California style police.

Bern
05-09-2012, 10:53 AM
Art Acevedo (police chief in Austin) sits on the DHS “Working Group on Countering Violent Extremism”.

http://oathkeepers.org/oath/2010/10/08/its-official-southern-poverty-law-center-is-now-part-of-dhs/

He still hasn't concluded his "investigation" of the New Year's Eve video of police misconduct against Antonio Buehler.

azxd
05-09-2012, 11:13 AM
this is how "domestic terrorists" are created.

this guy will not get justice via the corrupt justice system, and soon, people will start taking matters into their own hands.Austin Texas ... A Democratically controlled place ... The State really needs to get rid of that city.

All the really bad things have happened on Obama's watch.

Brian4Liberty
05-09-2012, 11:47 AM
Found it:

http://www.statesman.com/news/local/man-sues-city-over-seizure-of-house-with-2345041.html

It looks like this started with a feud with a neighbor:


According to city records, code compliance inspectors visited Del Rio's house in 2008 and 2009 in response to neighbors' complaints about holes. In 2009, records show, he built a retaining wall that he said also elicited a complaint.

fisharmor
05-09-2012, 11:57 AM
That's what you get for thinking you own property in the USSA.

osan
05-09-2012, 01:11 PM
Well, so much for the virtues of the state of Texas. Like the rest of the states, it is a political shit hole. As far as I can gather, there are no good states left, just less-horrible ones. The United States of American is a fallen land and a largely dangerous place, politically speaking. It is my hope that this will be corrected within our lifetime, but I confess that my hope is narrow in the extreme. Larger and larger numbers of people are buying ever more deeply into the mindset the tyrant wishes them to assume. It seems easier just to go along with the lies and false promises of everyone being taken care of by the state and by each other, even if it smells a little funny.

The broader human habit is to want simplistic answers and perhaps more importantly, free stuff. This illusion of getting something for nothing in utter defiance of the universally demonstrable principles of thermodynamics is so powerful that apparently no level of demonstrated fact and truth will dissuade people from believing what they want over what is real. To this day I am frequent witness to otherwise enormously intelligent people falling for the "free stuff" gag. Hidden costs are ugly, uncomfortable, and reqwuire a lot of work to uncover and properly characterize. Regardless of intelligence, people avoid what is uncomfortable because it is not a matter of smarts but of attitude. It is simply too much work for most to have one's brain perpetually in gear, considering the broader picture in any given situation. It is easier and more comfy to believe that somehow the tyrannical bills that pass into law will either not affect them (fuck those poor jamokes who will be... not my problem, eh?) or will benefit them, true or otherwise.

This is why the idea behind the Free State Project is correct. People BY HABIT are feudal creatures (whether by nature I cannot say, nor does it matter). They gather into like-minded groups and separate themselves from all the rest. Were this not the case we would have no political boundaries, no nation-states of which to speak. But we ARE clannish and feudal and this is not always a bad thing, the sword always having that other edge, as do all circumstances.

The only hope I see for human freedom is for such like-minded people to gather together and separate themselves from the rest. Sadly, in this age of technologically enabled tyranny running amok so universally I can barely imagine how the FSP could ever be realized, much less survive, and far less yet thrive in the longer term. In the end, might may not make right but it sure as hell does make reality most often. If FSP came to pass and the state of NH told the union to step off, just how do we feel the rest of the world would take this, especially in the longer term? NH had best be wealthy as hell and devote a huge investment into military endowments because sooner or later someone is going to come gunning for them and those people will not be playing games.

A single, comparatively free region would be as a stick in the eye of the globalist hegemony and the rest of the world would see this. That can NEVER be a good thing for the rulers because inevitably, whether today or five generations down the road, someone will start asking questions and brutal material suppression can go only so far in preventing the questioning from spreading. Therefore, it would behoove the larger body to endeavor to remove the eyesore in order to best corral the perceptions and thinking of those over whom they reign. That would necessitate the "need" to eliminate such a region of freedom. Why do you think the EU has been up the business of the Swiss? Switzerland is the only local state that has refused to buy into the socialist bloc once known as "Europe" and they are thriving. The powers at the imminently failing EU know that the rest of Europe sees this and have already begun to question the basic model on which the union is based. This can only end badly for the EU and so in desperation they try to shoosh away the "trouble makers" with threats because they are not taxing their people to the ever-wiser EU standard of theft. The EU is a sinking ship and their desperation is showing. Once again the authoritarian collectivist paradigm is failing miserably, possibly catastrophically, and those trying to keep it afloat are lashing out. How textbook can you be?

Textbook or not, doomed to ultimately fail or not, these great beasts, these juggernauts of political ravage may still destroy what little remains of human freedom where they find it. Such separatist bastions of liberty are always in danger from the likes of the endless parade of tyrants who simply cannot afford to suffer outside prosperity for their subjects to behold, wonder about, and eventually envy. I do not believe there is any level or type of "education" that the tyrants can dream up and effectively deliver such that even the dumbest people will blatantly choose suicide and subjugation as their own best interests. I believe that self-loathing even has its limits and that what is attainable by the rulers will never be quite enough to keep humanity completely contained - perhaps not even sufficiently so. But none of that matters today when their armies are rolling tanks across your borders in order to bring you into the fold of the greater good, and THAT is why I hold such vanishingly small hope for our futures. Free people must by necessity be armed to the teeth in order to stave off the threats posed by those lesser people who simply refuse to tolerate their betters and the conditions they bring. Those are the fruits that profound envy and self-hatred bring.

May God prove me the village idiot for holding these views. I crave to be demonstrated a complete imbecile on these points.

Lishy
05-09-2012, 01:35 PM
Someone should sue the law enforcement for not educating the public about these laws in the first place....

But are we sure this story is real?

ZENemy
05-09-2012, 02:12 PM
Someone should sue the law enforcement for not educating the public about these laws in the first place....

But are we sure this story is real?

Sue the tax payers?

pcosmar
05-09-2012, 02:20 PM
May God prove me the village idiot for holding these views. I crave to be demonstrated a complete imbecile on these points.

Eloquent as usual.

For those that think TLDR,, think again.

No Free Beer
05-09-2012, 02:24 PM
Lets spread on Twitter and Facebook.

speciallyblend
05-09-2012, 02:25 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waacof2saZw&amp;ob=av2e

t (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waacof2saZw&ob=av2e)his is all i can say without thinking of a felony.

Anti Federalist
05-09-2012, 02:58 PM
All the really bad things have happened on Obama's watch.

LOL.

Romney 2012. ^^^

Watch and see.

Anti Federalist
05-09-2012, 03:01 PM
Eloquent as usual.

For those that think TLDR,, think again.

True this.

Rep worthy read.

Luciconsort
05-09-2012, 03:08 PM
i've always been a proponent of keeping your mouth shut when it comes to what you have, own, build etc. Prime example here.... i know he's old and the whole situation sucks and any rational person wouldn't make a big deal... but we aren't dealing with rational people. If you live in town or in a city and want to do something that isn't exactly "legal". keep your mouth shut. when it comes to your property, life and that of your family. keep your damn mouth shut, and don't have people in your home who you don't trust with the knowledge of the reality of the situation.

Anti Federalist
05-09-2012, 03:19 PM
It seems that the Mr. Del Rio had an underground bunker, and apparently in Austin, Texas that enough to have the SWAT team storm your home and hold you at gun point.

Just a few bad apples.

Pericles
05-09-2012, 03:20 PM
Just a few bad apples.

Austin is where Texas keeps its bad apples with cash.

dannno
05-09-2012, 04:51 PM
Why does he need a bomb shelter? What if a little kid fell in and was injured?
































*Runs away* :eek:

Danke
05-09-2012, 10:22 PM
well, they did him a favor. Now all he has to do is dig down under the concrete and create a better, more re-enforced shelter that can withstand a direct hit from a bunker buster...:D

I like it, making the most out of a bad situation.

Ninja Homer
05-09-2012, 10:58 PM
Not a bunker. It was a bomb shelter, and he renovated it into a workshop. Now I bet he wishes he would have turned it into a bunker though.

Why the hell did they fill it with concrete? No dirt to be found? That could have been a road.

sailingaway
05-09-2012, 11:04 PM
Why can't he have a bunker? Or six?

So much for 'castle law'.

A Son of Liberty
05-10-2012, 04:09 AM
It would have been my time.

As well as mine.

A Son of Liberty
05-10-2012, 04:11 AM
i've always been a proponent of keeping your mouth shut when it comes to what you have, own, build etc. Prime example here.... i know he's old and the whole situation sucks and any rational person wouldn't make a big deal... but we aren't dealing with rational people. If you live in town or in a city and want to do something that isn't exactly "legal". keep your mouth shut. when it comes to your property, life and that of your family. keep your damn mouth shut, and don't have people in your home who you don't trust with the knowledge of the reality of the situation.

That's kind of how people would operate in places/times like Soviet Russia and Nazi Germany.

A Son of Liberty
05-10-2012, 04:13 AM
"They then brought in contractors and completely filled in his entire basement and bunker with 264 tons of concrete. To add insult to injury the city then sent Mr. Del Rio a bill for $90,000 in repairs ..."

What the hell is wrong with this county?!!

Doing that to an Air Force guy is so shameful.

What the hell does him being an AF vet have to do with it? Doing this to ANYONE is well beyond shameful.

A Son of Liberty
05-10-2012, 04:20 AM
May God prove me the village idiot for holding these views. I crave to be demonstrated a complete imbecile on these points.

I'm afraid I have some bad news for you - your craving will go unsatiated.

thoughtomator
05-10-2012, 06:14 AM
That's kind of how people would operate in places/times like Soviet Russia and Nazi Germany.

And that's now the only safe way to operate here - everything being illegal in some shape or fashion, don't expose yourself to the merciless bureaucrats and their fetch-dogs with badges.

MikeStanart
05-10-2012, 06:34 AM
If Bureaucrats were PERSONALLY LIABLE for their actions, shit like this would end.

PaulConventionWV
05-10-2012, 07:35 AM
I didn't know where to put this, so if it's in the wrong place, I would politely ask one of the mods to move it to the appropriate place.

Anyway, here:

http://offgridsurvival.com/governmentofficialsseizebunkerhome/

Early one Saturday morning, 70-year old retired Air Force reservist and former state employee Joe Del Rio was awoken by a knock on his front door. It was the city of Austin’s local code enforcement team. One of the agents told Mr. Del Rio that he needed to speak to him right away.

After getting dressed Mr. Del Rio went and opened his front door. He was immediately bum rushed by the Austin Police Department’s SWAT Team and then detained and interrogated for over 10 hours.

What was this 70-year old mans crime?

Bunker Bomb Shelter DoorIt seems that the Mr. Del Rio had an underground bunker, and apparently in Austin, Texas that enough to have the SWAT team storm your home and hold you at gun point.

The bunker in question was previously built as a bomb shelter during the cold war. Mr Del Rio had recently renovated part of the old fall out shelter and had been using it as a makeshift workshop.

City of Austin Seizes Property

concrete trucksAfter his ordeal of being detained at gun point, Mr. Del Rio’s problems were far from over. First, the city fenced off his home and prohibited him from entering the residence. They then brought in contractors and completely filled in his entire basement and bunker with 264 tons of concrete.

To add insult to injury the city then sent Mr. Del Rio a bill for $90,000 in repairs, that they say were critical to make his home safe. Shortly later the City seized his property without a penny of compensation. Mr. Del Rio is now in the process of trying to sue the city for what he says is an unconstitutional seizure of his property.

Wow, this is the most blatant, absurd abuse of government power I have ever heard of. It's downright criminal.

PaulConventionWV
05-10-2012, 07:38 AM
OMG... This is insane... :confused:

Wait, they filled in his BASEMENT, too??!! My God, are we not allowed to have basements anymore?

Kluge
05-10-2012, 07:45 AM
What the hell does him being an AF vet have to do with it? Doing this to ANYONE is well beyond shameful.

Because here in this country, we pretend to give them more respect than your average citizen because they once had a gov't job that used them for fodder!

PaulConventionWV
05-10-2012, 07:48 AM
Why does he need a bomb shelter? What if a little kid fell in and was injured?
































*Runs away* :eek:

Answer: For whatever reason he wants because it's his choice, and if that happened, then he would have to take responsibility since it's on his property. Some people can live with those risks.

azxd
05-10-2012, 09:00 AM
Construction and building codes ... They have expanded in authority.

But this is off the charts.

No inspection and bring it up to current standards warning ... That's all the city should have done.

Those who think they own property, need to read their deed closely ... Unless you have mineral rights, you really don't own anything, and even if you do, it can be takes.
But most know that.

What I don't get, is why no one tried to stop this ... That's a lot of trucks worth of concrete.

jmdrake
05-10-2012, 09:08 AM
It's obvious they were jealous and wanted it for themselves.

azxd
05-10-2012, 09:26 AM
It's obvious they were jealous and wanted it for themselves.Backhoe versus concrete truck ... They did it wrong.

oyarde
05-10-2012, 10:00 AM
Why does he need a bomb shelter? What if a little kid fell in and was injured?
































*Runs away* :eek: Asian Wendigo trap huh ? :)

Jovan Galtic
05-10-2012, 10:11 AM
Wait, they filled in his BASEMENT, too??!! My God, are we not allowed to have basements anymore?

And this: "To add insult to injury the city then sent Mr. Del Rio a bill for $90,000 in repairs, that they say were critical to make his home safe."

jmdrake
05-10-2012, 10:14 AM
Backhoe versus concrete truck ... They did it wrong.

I was just going by the title. (Bunker seized). This is even worse. Seems like they want to use our taxpayer dollars to build their own bunkers, then use our taxpayer dollars to prevent us from having bunkers.

Danke
05-10-2012, 10:18 AM
I was just going by the title. (Bunker seized). This is even worse. Seems like they want to use our taxpayer dollars to build their own bunkers, then use our taxpayer dollars to prevent us from having bunkers.

Who needs bunkers when you'll be safely whisked away and protected at the FEMA camps?

camp_steveo
05-10-2012, 03:31 PM
I posted this to FB this AM, and my friends are all sharing it. :D

Luciconsort
05-10-2012, 04:16 PM
That's kind of how people would operate in places/times like Soviet Russia and Nazi Germany. we aren't far from it.

Luciconsort
05-10-2012, 04:21 PM
Construction and building codes ... They have expanded in authority.

But this is off the charts.

No inspection and bring it up to current standards warning ... That's all the city should have done.

Those who think they own property, need to read their deed closely ... Unless you have mineral rights, you really don't own anything, and even if you do, it can be takes.
But most know that.

What I don't get, is why no one tried to stop this ... That's a lot of trucks worth of concrete.

seriously.... the people of that town should be out front of city hall throwing bricks at the place

azxd
05-10-2012, 04:24 PM
I was just going by the title. (Bunker seized). This is even worse. Seems like they want to use our taxpayer dollars to build their own bunkers, then use our taxpayer dollars to prevent us from having bunkers.Some home improvements should not be permitted/discussed.

PaulConventionWV
05-10-2012, 04:26 PM
And this: "To add insult to injury the city then sent Mr. Del Rio a bill for $90,000 in repairs, that they say were critical to make his home safe."

Lol. They called it "repairs." It's like an involuntary home makeover where they fill in half of your home with concrete. Sounds lovely.

Not to mention the fact that most home makeover shows don't make you pay. Taxes are a different story, however.