Ron Paul's biggest opponents. Who to expose.

[nexus7]

His biggest opponents are,

1.Mitt Romney

2.Guiliani

and then on the democrats side, it's hitlary clinton.

I think we really need to step up on EXPOSING Romney and Hitlary Clinton online, as in, on their youtube vids and such.

I see a lot of people attack Ron with baseless stuff on his vids so I think it's time we attack with factual stuff on our opponents' vids.

I think guiliani will fade away in the primaries but it would be good to plan some online, educational counter-strikes of sorts.

[me3]

Just keep getting Paul supporters, get them to donate, join MeetUps and register (R) for the primaries. We aren't going to win with swiftboating, we're going to win with an overwhelming donation and voting base.

[DealzOnWheelz]

Yes we definitely need to start the muckraking.

I say hold off on hillary until the General election.

We need to focus on the GOP nomination

[LinearChaos]

Just keep getting Paul supporters, get them to donate, join MeetUps and register (R) for the primaries. We aren't going to win with swiftboating, we're going to win with an overwhelming donation and voting base.

This.

[Goldwater Conservative]

I say it's Giuliani. He's Paul's polar opposite (which makes beating him important in the struggle to save the party) and the only one who consistently appears strong and with the best chance to defeat Hillary. If he can be exposed for the POS lying clown that he is, the party will have no national frontrunner or presumptive leader.

The orthodoxy regarding Rudy, his tenure as mayor, and how he handled terrorism is our biggest but most important obstacle to overcome. It's the soft underbelly of the neo-con movement. We must stop the heir to the Bush throne.

[Question_Authority]

His biggest opponents are,

1.Mitt Romney

2.Guiliani



http://rudyrevealed.com

http://www.massresistance.org/docs/marriage/romney/record/

[KoozieChaz]

The muck-raking will not help. The only thing those kinds of actions can do is discredit Dr. Paul by association with us, his grassroots supporters. We are the direct representatives of Dr. Paul and should conduct ourselves as such. Many peoples first impressions of Ron Paul will be through that of his supporters. Leave the high-school slam tactics to high-schoolers. We have a presidency to win...

[steph3n]

STOP STOP STOP being negative and get the truth of Dr Paul out, so many people still think he said "we caused 9/11" when that was TOTALLY WRONG.

[DealzOnWheelz]

Life Isn't Fair So You Have To Adapt To The Game Your Playing

[DealzOnWheelz]

If you want to expose Guiliannin talk about NY pre 9/11 and how horrible it was run

[280Z28]

We don't have to expose anyone. They seem to be taking care of it all by themselves.

[me3]

Exactly, if you're going to expose anyone, expose Ron Paul to the 60% of Americans who have no idea who he is.

We need votes more than anything else. Swiftboating in a multi-candidate race might not swing votes our way, you might swing Giuliani votes to Romney, McCain or Huckleberry. Think about unintended consequences. Blowback.

Let's practice non-intervention and promote our guy.

I sound like RonPaulFan. :)

[Chad]

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[Indy Vidual]

I think guiliani will fade away in the primaries ...

If I agreed with this, I'd feel much better about Ron's chances.
Rudy is very strong (in traditional polls) in these huge states (and more)

New Jersey
New York State
Florida
California

Rudy is still a really big threat to RP's success.


his biggest opponents are those who push the idea that a non-interventionist foreign policy means that America is vulnerable...that is the ONLY issue on which the other frontrunners can gather support without debate. make the people fear "Islamo-fascism" and they can keep people deceived.

I'm more afraid of AIPAC than "Islamo-fascism"

if it cheers anyone up, my parents were Hannity/Limbaugh neo-cons until 6 months ago. it took a few months of talking to them (not annoying them)...sending my dad articles, talking over dinner, etc...but my dad just called me and said he's bought a Ron Paul bumper sticker and feels better about voting than he ever has before. this thing has people excited

Great job :)

[nexus7]

Well I'm NOT talking about slinging MUD at all. I'm talking about killing people with kindness and truth, by posting factual links to prove of our opponents lies and flip-flopping.

[nexus7]

http://rudyrevealed.com

http://www.massresistance.org/docs/marriage/romney/record/

Exactly, this is the way to do it on youtube.

Obviously some people agree with me, so those that do, see you over at youtube. The one's that don't, oh well. Keep talking to your neighbors.

I think we also need to keep an eye on Ron's youtube videos, especially on his main youtube page and on the ones that pop up on the first page via a youtube search. We need to counter-balance any negative posts.

See you there.

[Midnight77]

I think Mitt Romney and Giuliani are unquestionably the biggest threats. What a slimy move by Romney to cancel out of this next debate. He's going on Cruise Control at this point.

[Son of Freedom]

I'll take PM's from long time posters here.

[me3]

I can't stress my take strong enough. You can't campaign against the others and guarantee that it will directly benefit Ron Paul.

Please help promote Dr. Paul first and foremost. He needs all of the help he can get. Focusing on other candidate's dilutes your efforts.

[AlexMerced]

again if everyone exposes paul to one new person everyday, we double every day, we need to be like bacteria

[qsecofr]

I have to agree on this one, don't go on the offensive. I've been posting in some pretty hostile waters and the tone is starting to shift because the regulars are cooly focusing on the issues and leaving the emotion at the door. The "kings" are faltering because they cannot rationally hold there ground and the rest are falling like dominoes.

The people who attack us now know more about RP then their own candidates and deep down they are being forced to admit his integrity is genuine. The house of cards will collapse under it's own weight, let the other candidates supporters eat their own.

Ron's not perfect but they can't touch his authenticity. People will trust a candidate when they know exactly where he stands even if they do not agree with everything he says.

Plus, if we don't attack the other candidates they will get much less threads!

That being said my fellow herd of angry cats, do as you may but please, at least leave the RP lapel pin at the stoop before you go knocking on doors :D

[mojohnk2000]

The campaign needs to be diversified.

[fcofer]

Exactly, if you're going to expose anyone, expose Ron Paul to the 60% of Americans who have no idea who he is.

We need votes more than anything else. Swiftboating in a multi-candidate race might not swing votes our way, you might swing Giuliani votes to Romney, McCain or Huckleberry. Think about unintended consequences.

Hear, hear. +1

[adpierce]

His biggest opponents are,

1.Mitt Romney

2.Guiliani

and then on the democrats side, it's hitlary clinton.

I think we really need to step up on EXPOSING Romney and Hitlary Clinton online, as in, on their youtube vids and such.

I see a lot of people attack Ron with baseless stuff on his vids so I think it's time we attack with factual stuff on our opponents' vids.

I think guiliani will fade away in the primaries but it would be good to plan some online, educational counter-strikes of sorts.

You don't think Huckabee ranks up there? Here in Iowa I'd beg to differ. If ol' Huck ends up winning Iowa and I think he could, we could face a slingshot effect where Huckabee starts winning other states where he's not even a contender at the moment. We may very well see a different kind of race develop after the Iowa Caucus.

[Midnight77]

I can't stress my take strong enough. You can't campaign against the others and guarantee that it will directly benefit Ron Paul.

Please help promote Dr. Paul first and foremost. He needs all of the help he can get. Focusing on other candidate's dilutes your efforts.

You can to put doubt in voter's minds. I would recommend doing it, but not showing our partisanship for Paul when doing so.

[coffeewithchess]

The biggest threat is Mike Huckabee...I've been saying it for months now.

[dircha]

The majority of Americans still don't even know who Ron Paul is.

You don't have to go out there and start attacking other candidates.

Just go out there and tell people who Ron Paul is.

[dircha]

The biggest threat is Mike Huckabee...I've been saying it for months now.

Well, I think the biggest threat is that a majority of voters won't even know who Ron Paul is.

But I agree about Huckabee. People don't seem to understand that Huckabee trails us by 2% or less in New Hampshire, leads us nationally, and leads us far and away in Iowa.

If Huckabee manages to beat Romney in Iowa in January, or even come in a close second, not only will he steal Ron Paul's thunder as the upstart candidate (as he is already doing as a result of the latest Iowa polls), but he will likely see a large bump in other early states.

Huckabee beating us in New Hampshire is becoming increasingly likely.

[fcofer]

The biggest threat is Mike Huckabee...I've been saying it for months now.

I totally agree with you. Huckabee is the biggest threat, and we need to figure out a strategy for dealing with him. There are some smart fiscal conservatives who support Huck (believe it or not) because Huck, like Paul, wants to eliminate the IRS and repeal the 16th amendment. We should definitely reach out to these people and show them why Paul is much more serious about this sort of thing -- they can be converted (I've done it personally), and I think that they make up the "opinion leader" nucleus of Huck's grassroots.

There are a lot of rank-and-file Huck supporters, however, who, sad as it is to say, probably should be voting for Huck. These people are social conservatives who are keen on amending the Constitution to institute restrictions on the people, as a cure for every perceived social ill. They oppose Paul, when exposed to him, because he doesn't favor amending the Constitution to prohibit gay marriage or abortion or flag-burning or pornography, etc., for instance. These people are all over the South, and they like Huckabee immediately when they see him (the Baptist preacher thing). Sadly, they don't really give a crap about taxes or liberties, and often are just totally apathetic about the war.

However, I still don't think that we should run negative ads. Let Mitt pull out his pocketbook for that. At this point, our efforts are best spent at reaching as many new supporters as possible, and converting "opinion leaders" among the opposition. Our huge advantage is that Paul supporters are much more enthusiastic about Paul, once they understand his positions, than practically anyone is about Huckabee. We will definitely get the greatest voter turnout from the people that we have. Thus, attack ads (which try to reduce turnout by the opposition) are not playing to our strengths.