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ChrisDixon
05-07-2012, 02:56 PM
David Sorensen, a Policy Aide for the Maine House of Representatives, is confirmed as one of the Romney operatives. He took the floor to push a false delegate slate of Paul supporters in effort to divide our vote.

Two Paul supporters pressed Mr. Sorensen at different times. The first one did so outside of a County Convention room and asked him why he was pushing the slate. The response was that it was a tactic to divide the Ron Paul vote and that our people did it, too. This is false. A Paul slate was introduced to kick off nominations and that was the ONLY peep out of Paul supporters on the floor next to refusing nominations that Sorensen made. When this point was made, Sorensen kept repeating this point.

Mr. Sorensen then, upon being pressed, confessed to the division tactic, as well as the tactic to stall the convention to waste time.

Another Paul supporter had pressed David Sorensen on it, asking if he had created the false delegate slates. He denied it.

Mr. Sorensen is a Policy Aide with the Maine House Republican Office, thus having a direct connection to the Maine Republican Party. Because these two discussions happened one-on-one, there is no conclusive way to prove these words. But the proof is on the books, before the entire convention, that Mr. Sorensen did advance the slates forth.

The issue was raised by State GOP chairman Charlie Webster on the second day that if we run over 6pm, the party will be on the hook for $10,000 per hour. In the end, we were there until after 8pm.

As 6pm rolled around, it became clear that we wouldn't make it. District 2 convention was still in progress and the votes from District 1, which had run all day, were still in progress. The day was also behind schedule because GOP Platform and National Committeepeople votes were scheduled to happen on the first day, but was prevented because of multiple recounts on Convention Secretary and a highly-contested Convention Chair seat.

Representative Aaron Libby promptly took the floor and urged Paul supporters to donate money on behalf to cover the fees. Because he was a different district, he was correctly asked to leave the floor. Representative Jeff Timberlake then took over and made urged people to donate a little each.

The fact still remains however:

There is question that an individual, directly associated with the Maine Republican Party, deliberately engaged in stall tactics that not only propelled the convention into chaos, but put the Republican Party on the hook for $20,000.

...but Ron Paul people are the bad guys? You be the judge.

evilfunnystuff
05-07-2012, 03:05 PM
They can't blame the Paul people. They had the numbers, they won.

I'm sure they would have gladly won faster, if the establishment time-wasters wouldn't have kept dragging things out.

Titus
05-07-2012, 03:05 PM
Link? Proof? Picture?

ChrisDixon
05-07-2012, 03:08 PM
Two Paul supporters I personally know who have detailed me on this. As I've said above, there's no way to prove what was said because it was one-on-one conversation. But both are trustworthy people and strong Paul supporters.

As for the video of Sorensen on the floor presenting the fake slate, I'm working on getting video. There were livestreams and filming in progress most of the weekend, someone has to have something.

Titus
05-07-2012, 03:15 PM
Gah Chris, I need something more than that to put it on the website.

Is this the profile of the guy? http://www.linkedin.com/pub/david-sorensen/29/939/2a7

alucard13mmfmj
05-07-2012, 03:15 PM
Sorensen... Don't trust anyone with the last name that sounds like Sorensen. Didn't we get screwed in Iowa by a bald guy with last name Sorenson by creating some kind of controversy/scandal.

ChrisDixon
05-07-2012, 03:16 PM
Gah Chris, I need something more than that to put it on the website.

Is this the profile of the guy? http://www.linkedin.com/pub/david-sorensen/29/939/2a7

That's him.

I'm working on getting that information.

Titus
05-07-2012, 03:16 PM
Oh if that is the guy, he is a glorified legal intern. I did something similar for a New York Assembly Person in New York, but I just did research. Can't say more than that and it's irrelevant anyway.

Ethek
05-07-2012, 03:36 PM
There was another one, Charlie, he had obscured his last name on his Delegate credentials. Im not sure of his county but it was one with the pea-green colored ID ribbon. He was the fellow hi-lighted in the supporter posted web-video for also distributing the fraudulent delegate slate

Ethek
05-07-2012, 03:37 PM
Maybe the same one, Im not sure, the Linkedin picture is poor

Titus
05-07-2012, 03:40 PM
That's not the guy handing out the fake slates. He may have been involved but he's not "Charlie" from the other thread. Charlie's hair is much straighter and lighter. However, there is another Charlie that works with that guy on a law review at the school. I can't find a definitive picture though. The only picture of the law review doesn't actually label who is who.

FlipObamney
05-07-2012, 03:43 PM
Link? Proof? Picture?

If you want to watch videos of some of the highlights from the Maine Convention, go to my channel.

http://www.youtube.com/user/FlipObamney/videos

FlipObamney
05-07-2012, 03:45 PM
Fake slates, here you go:

http://www.youtube.com/user/FlipObamney/videos



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjCO5TEGAMw

ChrisDixon
05-07-2012, 03:46 PM
There was another one, Charlie, he had obscured his last name on his Delegate credentials. Im not sure of his county but it was one with the pea-green colored ID ribbon. He was the fellow hi-lighted in the supporter posted web-video for also distributing the fraudulent delegate slate

Link to this? I'd like to see it.

Titus
05-07-2012, 03:48 PM
Me too. If I get that, that would be very helpful. I'm trying to match who I think Charlie is but I want to be certain as even alleging in jest this sort of thing can have very damaging consequences to the person involved.

The badge image would be helpful too to send to Ben Swann.

Thor
05-07-2012, 04:29 PM
Maybe the same one, Im not sure, the Linkedin picture is poor

Facebook is a little better

https://www.facebook.com/david.sorensen.969


That's not the guy handing out the fake slates. He may have been involved but he's not "Charlie" from the other thread. Charlie's hair is much straighter and lighter. However, there is another Charlie that works with that guy on a law review at the school. I can't find a definitive picture though. The only picture of the law review doesn't actually label who is who.

http://i.imgur.com/xBWmD.jpg

No, not the same guy, but I am willing to bet David Sorensen knows "Charlie".

Razmear
05-10-2012, 09:02 AM
Just FYI, this post is being used as a source in a news article here:
http://www.downeast.com/the-tipping-point/2012/may/tricks-maine-convention

Thor
05-10-2012, 10:10 AM
http://www.downeast.com/files/images/charlie_cheater.preview.jpg

sailingaway
05-10-2012, 10:19 AM
David Sorensen, a Policy Aide for the Maine House of Representatives, is confirmed as one of the Romney operatives. He took the floor to push a false delegate slate of Paul supporters in effort to divide our vote.

Two Paul supporters pressed Mr. Sorensen at different times. The first one did so outside of a County Convention room and asked him why he was pushing the slate. The response was that it was a tactic to divide the Ron Paul vote and that our people did it, too. This is false. A Paul slate was introduced to kick off nominations and that was the ONLY peep out of Paul supporters on the floor next to refusing nominations that Sorensen made. When this point was made, Sorensen kept repeating this point.

Mr. Sorensen then, upon being pressed, confessed to the division tactic, as well as the tactic to stall the convention to waste time.

Another Paul supporter had pressed David Sorensen on it, asking if he had created the false delegate slates. He denied it.

Mr. Sorensen is a Policy Aide with the Maine House Republican Office, thus having a direct connection to the Maine Republican Party. Because these two discussions happened one-on-one, there is no conclusive way to prove these words. But the proof is on the books, before the entire convention, that Mr. Sorensen did advance the slates forth.

The issue was raised by State GOP chairman Charlie Webster on the second day that if we run over 6pm, the party will be on the hook for $10,000 per hour. In the end, we were there until after 8pm.

As 6pm rolled around, it became clear that we wouldn't make it. District 2 convention was still in progress and the votes from District 1, which had run all day, were still in progress. The day was also behind schedule because GOP Platform and National Committeepeople votes were scheduled to happen on the first day, but was prevented because of multiple recounts on Convention Secretary and a highly-contested Convention Chair seat.

Representative Aaron Libby promptly took the floor and urged Paul supporters to donate money on behalf to cover the fees. Because he was a different district, he was correctly asked to leave the floor. Representative Jeff Timberlake then took over and made urged people to donate a little each.

The fact still remains however:

There is question that an individual, directly associated with the Maine Republican Party, deliberately engaged in stall tactics that not only propelled the convention into chaos, but put the Republican Party on the hook for $20,000.

...but Ron Paul people are the bad guys? You be the judge.

I posted a story yesterday that the overtime is going to cost $300, not $10,000.

ChrisDixon
05-10-2012, 10:21 AM
I posted a story yesterday that the overtime is going to cost $300, not $10,000.

Yeah, I saw. The story came out after my original post.

sailingaway
05-10-2012, 10:23 AM
http://www.downeast.com/files/images/charlie_cheater.preview.jpg

wow on the attorney telling the guy they would get him back working in Boston

Carlybee
05-10-2012, 10:31 AM
David Sorensen, a Policy Aide for the Maine House of Representatives, is confirmed as one of the Romney operatives. He took the floor to push a false delegate slate of Paul supporters in effort to divide our vote.

Two Paul supporters pressed Mr. Sorensen at different times. The first one did so outside of a County Convention room and asked him why he was pushing the slate. The response was that it was a tactic to divide the Ron Paul vote and that our people did it, too. This is false. A Paul slate was introduced to kick off nominations and that was the ONLY peep out of Paul supporters on the floor next to refusing nominations that Sorensen made. When this point was made, Sorensen kept repeating this point.

Mr. Sorensen then, upon being pressed, confessed to the division tactic, as well as the tactic to stall the convention to waste time.

Another Paul supporter had pressed David Sorensen on it, asking if he had created the false delegate slates. He denied it.

Mr. Sorensen is a Policy Aide with the Maine House Republican Office, thus having a direct connection to the Maine Republican Party. Because these two discussions happened one-on-one, there is no conclusive way to prove these words. But the proof is on the books, before the entire convention, that Mr. Sorensen did advance the slates forth.

The issue was raised by State GOP chairman Charlie Webster on the second day that if we run over 6pm, the party will be on the hook for $10,000 per hour. In the end, we were there until after 8pm.

As 6pm rolled around, it became clear that we wouldn't make it. District 2 convention was still in progress and the votes from District 1, which had run all day, were still in progress. The day was also behind schedule because GOP Platform and National Committeepeople votes were scheduled to happen on the first day, but was prevented because of multiple recounts on Convention Secretary and a highly-contested Convention Chair seat.

Representative Aaron Libby promptly took the floor and urged Paul supporters to donate money on behalf to cover the fees. Because he was a different district, he was correctly asked to leave the floor. Representative Jeff Timberlake then took over and made urged people to donate a little each.

The fact still remains however:

There is question that an individual, directly associated with the Maine Republican Party, deliberately engaged in stall tactics that not only propelled the convention into chaos, but put the Republican Party on the hook for $20,000.

...but Ron Paul people are the bad guys? You be the judge.

Can legal action be taken? Can all the people involved in the conversation be deposed under oath?

kathy88
05-10-2012, 12:36 PM
Can legal action be taken? Can all the people involved in the conversation be deposed under oath?

It is election fraud. Pretty clear cut. If the attorney is complicit? Holy shit.