View Full Version : Tasers No Longer a Non-Lethal Alternative for Law Enforcement
Tasers No Longer a Non-Lethal Alternative for Law Enforcement
ACLU | A study published this week by the American Heart Association’s Circulation Journal confirms that the misuse of a Taser can cause sudden cardiac arrest and death.
Back to bullets.
Veteran Citizen
05-06-2012, 07:52 AM
That term has not been used by Law enforcement or the Military for years. It's Less Lethal. Anything that can kill you, which tazers have been known to do, is not "Non-Lethal".
Philosophy_of_Politics
05-06-2012, 07:54 AM
That term has not been used by Law enforcement or the Military for years. It's Less Lethal. Anything that can kill you, which tazers have been known to do, is not "Non-Lethal".
Cops use it excessively as if they think it's "Non-Lethal." Which I believe is the main point. Not to mention, the majority of laws "violated" in which they rule tazer's to be required, shouldn't even exist.
kcchiefs6465
05-06-2012, 08:18 AM
160 views, 2 replies. What was that you were saying in another thread? Something about people not caring? ;) :D Anyways, thread is irrelevant. As someone has pointed out, no one has claimed tasers are non-lethal. They are considered a less-lethal option. And I really don't need the A.H.A. study to know that a minute of high voltage electricity causes damage to the heart. All in all an OP fail. Please watch the entirety of the video provided azxd (it's short) (WARNING: Do not have your volume up too loud, cops might arrive and tase, I mean shoot you :D)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFH9kmKZX_o
A little background information; she was arrested for driving under the influence. The officer admitted tasering her 7 times. Twice after she was handcuffed.
160 views, 2 replies. What was that you were saying in another thread? Something about people not caring? ;) :D Anyways, thread is irrelevant. Yea, pretty much ... Maybe that's because all of these threads should not be in the general politics section (someone pointed that out yesterday).
Carson
05-06-2012, 09:13 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XWijwmvGU4
truelies
05-06-2012, 09:34 AM
Bottom line cops are the sworn enemies of the American People.
Voluntary Man
05-06-2012, 11:14 AM
160 views, 2 replies. What was that you were saying in another thread? Something about people not caring? ;) :D Anyways, thread is irrelevant. As someone has pointed out, no one has claimed tasers are non-lethal. They are considered a less-lethal option. And I really don't need the A.H.A. study to know that a minute of high voltage electricity causes damage to the heart. All in all an OP fail. Please watch the entirety of the video provided azxd (it's short) (WARNING: Do not have your volume up too loud, cops might arrive and tase, I mean shoot you :D)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFH9kmKZX_o
A little background information; she was arrested for driving under the influence. The officer admitted tasering her 7 times. Twice after she was handcuffed.
that porcine, costumed, brooch-wearing loser should have jumper cables clipped to his pendulous breasts until....
PaulConventionWV
05-06-2012, 12:26 PM
Back to bullets.
You must be a cop-hater.
You must be a cop-hater.LOL
Going back to bullets would make it more obvious who the bad cops are ;)
PaulConventionWV
05-06-2012, 12:34 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XWijwmvGU4
Wait, was that the original "Don't taze me bro!" or was he making a throwback?
PaulConventionWV
05-06-2012, 12:35 PM
LOL
Going back to bullets would make it more obvious who the bad cops are ;)
And still, nothing would be done about it. If you can't see who the bad cops are now, then you'll never see it.
And still, nothing would be done about it. If you can't see who the bad cops are now, then you'll never see it.I wish I had a crystal ball :p
But, when you live a life denying that change can happen, I guess your reality becomes one where "nothing would be done about it".
ETA:
Screaming and shouting !!
A wasted effort !!
You should be glad that such a report has surfaced ... Less-than-lethal, or whatever you want to call it, gives wider authority to abuse ... YES ?
John F Kennedy III
05-06-2012, 12:46 PM
Bottom line cops are the sworn enemies of the American People.
The truth can't get any simpler than that.
kcchiefs6465
05-06-2012, 01:49 PM
LOL
Going back to bullets would make it more obvious who the bad cops are ;)
Not to some. Some people become so blinded by their shiny tin badge that they often make irrational statements regarding evidence of police misconduct. In addition, these same people may try to rationalize the rise in police shootings. They might even make statements to the contrary of witness testimonies, contrary to the forensic evidence, and contrary to common sense. Then, just throwing this out there, they may even be so assbackwards as to post, "Going back to bullets would make it more obvious who the bad cops are," even though on numerous occaisions you have supported the obvious police abuses in regards to police officers firing their service weapons.
:toady:
Carson
05-06-2012, 02:11 PM
Wait, was that the original "Don't taze me bro!" or was he making a throwback?
That was the original. This one is also original but it cuts right down to the "Don't taze me bro!" and didn't really show the whole picture. It's funnier but it sort of missed him in the beginning not really doing anything. I did try to go with the short one but when it didn't post right I figured the longer one was meant to be.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XWijwmvGU4
I kind of remember we all laughed at the time. I don't really see anyone laughing at the meeting.
Well...maybe a couple.
bolil
05-06-2012, 02:14 PM
pork.
Anti Federalist
05-06-2012, 02:24 PM
All in all an OP fail.
Color me unsurprised.
But honestly, this is a good thing, as more aggressive legal action can be taken against abusive cops who now taser people to death.
With a little luck mace can classed the same as well.
No more Nick Christies, tortured to death by cops with pepper spray.
http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lwq1zk4i6X1qagyvoo1_500.jpg
Not to some. Some people become so blinded by their shiny tin badge that they often make irrational statements regarding evidence of police misconduct. In addition, these same people may try to rationalize the rise in police shootings. They might even make statements to the contrary of witness testimonies, contrary to the forensic evidence, and contrary to common sense. Then, just throwing this out there, they may even be so assbackwards as to post, "Going back to bullets would make it more obvious who the bad cops are," even though on numerous occaisions you have supported the obvious police abuses in regards to police officers firing their service weapons.
:toady:You can fight, or you can bitch ;)
Color me unsurprised.
But honestly, this is a good thing, as more aggressive legal action can be taken against abusive cops who now taser people to death.
With a little luck mace can classed the same as well.
No more Nick Christies, tortured to death by cops with pepper spray.
I told you we're on the the same side.
Veteran Citizen
05-06-2012, 03:14 PM
Cops use it excessively as if they think it's "Non-Lethal." Which I believe is the main point. Not to mention, the majority of laws "violated" in which they rule tazer's to be required, shouldn't even exist.
They could be using billy clubs. Those kill people too. Not too often when used against extremities.
It's not what they are using that I have that much of an issue with, it's when they are using it. If force is justified, use the amount of force needed, but just enough. That goes for Civilians and Law enforcement. If force is not justified and used, prosecute. Period.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cases_of_police_brutality_in_the_United_St ates
This list is incomplete; you can help by expanding it.
Voluntary Man
05-06-2012, 03:54 PM
i saw a few episode of a syndicated television series, while staying in a hotel, maybe 12 years ago. i believe it was called 'Dark Justice.' for some reason, this thread reminded me of it.
Simple
05-06-2012, 04:43 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XWijwmvGU4
Public torture because he was squirming with his hands handcuffed behind his backs is a clear violation of his eighth amendment rights. There was no public safety issue, force was not justified.
They could be using billy clubs. Those kill people too. Not too often when used against extremities.
It's not what they are using that I have that much of an issue with, it's when they are using it. If force is justified, use the amount of force needed, but just enough. That goes for Civilians and Law enforcement. If force is not justified and used, prosecute. Period.In days gone by they would beat the crap out of you with their fists, and yahoo's would still complain.
Take it all away, and give them a gun and a PR-24 ... Choices will be made on both sides of the isle.
kcchiefs6465
05-06-2012, 04:55 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cases_of_police_brutality_in_the_United_St ates
This list is incomplete; you can help by expanding it.
Yes, only two examples from Ohio? When I get a chance I'll have to add a few. Of course those are the documented cases. There are hundreds of police brutality cases in Stark County alone. I remember when we had a lawsuit against CPD the specific officer had 26 complaints of brutality! Of course, the C.O.P. assured me, "that doesn't sound like something my guys would do." This specific cop threatened to execute (literally) one too many people and was fired around a year ago. I am sure he was re-hired somewhere, though, and probably received a cool $50,000 in back pay. Another prime example of the just-us system.
Public torture because he was squirming with his hands handcuffed behind his backs is a clear violation of his eighth amendment rights. There was no public safety issue, force was not justified.And if thought justified, they could have just punched loud mouth in the face :D
Cases are easier when you don't have multiple options ... Perhaps talking would become the norm, again.
kcchiefs6465
05-06-2012, 04:57 PM
In days gone by they would beat the crap out of you with their fists, and yahoo's would still complain.
Take it all away, and give them a gun and a PR-24 ... Choices will be made on both sides of the isle.
Really, they complained about a silly thing like that? Those damn yahoos. God bless Francis Crowley.
ETA: As reasonable as some of your posts seem, (excluding every post in articles that have to do with L.E.) do you really not see the problem with your rationale? "Well since people are complaining about being electrocuted, let's just shoot them. Or better yet, beat them. But those crazy yahoos would still be complaining."-azxd
WELL YEAH! Is it really that hard for you too see the flagrant errors in your reasoning? I will try to make this as simple as possible. Though I am reasonably certain your comprehension isn't that bad. People are complaining because their rights as an American were violated, it doesn't matter which method is used to abuse someone, it's still abuse. Is it really that hard of a concept to grasp?
Anti Federalist
05-06-2012, 05:16 PM
In days gone by they would beat the crap out of you with their fists, and yahoo's would still complain.
The nerve.
Complaining about an unjust beating by a public servant.
Damn commies.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-RpgszBY1drQ/Th37omc2dhI/AAAAAAAAL1o/7mA1kTnTOBw/s1600/fear+monger%2C+totus.jpg
Anti Federalist
05-06-2012, 05:22 PM
Found:
azxd's Profile Picture:
http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTp2s6U_D-JqT_feVNTlymhL-Gu5Z1QZz2qF4W5e-jveU7JR3AlTQ
kcchiefs6465
05-06-2012, 05:30 PM
And if thought justified, they could have just punched loud mouth in the face :D
Cases are easier when you don't have multiple options ... Perhaps talking would become the norm, again.
So could I punch a loud mouth cop in the face; if I truly thought it was justified? (And they were begging me to, but that's besides the point) Hypothetically speaking, say a cop was screaming at the top of his lungs in my face, would you support my (right) to hit him? Or is this special power only granted to L.E.? And a better question, if I did hit said "hypothetical" pig would you be so damn :D about it?
ETA: Please feel to respond azxd. Perhaps a concise, relevant post is in order? Otherwise, people might start thinking (and/or concluding) you were a MCSO or something.
So could I punch a loud mouth cop in the face; if I truly thought it was justified? (And they were begging me to, but that's besides the point) Hypothetically speaking, say a cop was screaming at the top of his lungs in my face, would you support my (right) to hit him? Or is this special power only granted to L.E.? And a better question, if I did hit said "hypothetical" pig would you be so damn :D about it?Only you can find the answer to this question ... Myself, I could care less :p how you handle your fear.
kcchiefs6465
05-06-2012, 05:48 PM
Only you can find the answer to this question ... Myself, I could care less :p how you handle your fear.
How can "only I" find the answer to my question? I cannot read your mind. I don't find my post to be especially cryptic. But I'll repost for clarity and comprehension. You used a :D when describing a mundane getting hit by a cop. Do you feel the same gratification if there was a story say, of a mundane hitting a cop? Further, you implied that you agreed with this type of behavior. So should I assume you would come to my defense, say if I engaged in this type of behavior? Again, I enjoy your posts most when they are relevant and direct, as well as address what I am asking. There is no need for subliminal, "what is he talking about," cryptic responses. As you are notorious for. I feel you are well capable as to give an arguement for pro-police abuse (if anyone could). That being said, perhaps this is why it is somewhat shocking that you really don't see the errors in your rationale.
How can "only I" find the answer to my question? I cannot read your mind. I don't find my post to be especially cryptic. But I'll repost for clarity and comprehension. You used a :D when describing a mundane getting hit by a cop. Do you feel the same gratification if there was a story say, of a mundane hitting a cop? Further, you implied that you agreed with this type of behavior. So should I assume you would come to my defense, say if I engaged in this type of behavior? Again, I enjoy your posts most when they are relevant and direct, as well as address what I am asking. There is no need for subliminal, "what is he talking about," cryptic responses. As you are notorious for. I feel you are well capable as to give an arguement for pro-police abuse (if anyone could). That being said, perhaps this is why it is somewhat shocking that you really don't see the errors in your rationale.http://blogs.psychcentral.com/adhd-zoe/files/2010/05/fear_mongering4.jpg Unsubscribe.
kcchiefs6465
05-06-2012, 05:57 PM
http://blogs.psychcentral.com/adhd-zoe/files/2010/05/fear_mongering4.jpg Unsubscribe.
Typical. Please explain which part of that post you found to be fear mongering. Are you uncapable of having a reasonable discussion about the pros and cons of police abuse? A question for other members, does unsubscribe mean he can't see my posts anymore? Fairly new to RPF and don't understand all of the terminology.
Typical. Please explain which part of that post you found to be fear mongering. Are you uncapable of having a reasonable discussion about the pros and cons of police abuse? A question for other members, does unsubscribe mean he can't see my posts anymore? Fairly new to RPF and don't understand all of the terminology.Does disengage suit you better ?
Captain Shays
05-06-2012, 06:00 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGFAc8Q79iY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhmXvaioXSY&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAZTslKZNEI&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKnYzhzUcuw&feature=related
kcchiefs6465
05-06-2012, 06:03 PM
Does disengage suit you better ?
Thank you.
The weekend just keeps getting better - Ron Paul wins Iowa! (Yes, Iowa) (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?375258-Ron-Paul-wins-Iowa!-(Yes-Iowa))
BlackTerrel
05-06-2012, 07:35 PM
How dangerous can it be?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QT4i6kfmHhQ
PaulConventionWV
05-06-2012, 10:14 PM
That was the original. This one is also original but it cuts right down to the "Don't taze me bro!" and didn't really show the whole picture. It's funnier but it sort of missed him in the beginning not really doing anything. I did try to go with the short one but when it didn't post right I figured the longer one was meant to be.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XWijwmvGU4
I kind of remember we all laughed at the time. I don't really see anyone laughing at the meeting.
Well...maybe a couple.
Was that Bush speaking as he was getting arrested? I heard some people laughing at Bush's joke.
PaulConventionWV
05-06-2012, 10:23 PM
Does disengage suit you better ?
It's not fear mongering, dude. Fear mongering is complaining about a danger not yet present. This danger is present and very real. It is happening. That's not fear mongering. You're being obtuse.
Carson
05-06-2012, 11:18 PM
Was that Bush speaking as he was getting arrested? I heard some people laughing at Bush's joke.
I think I heard it was a John Kerry meeting.
PaulConventionWV
05-07-2012, 04:24 AM
I think I heard it was a John Kerry meeting.
Oh, ok. I most commonly associate "Skull and Bones" with George Bush, but yeah, he was in that society, too. Did you notice he tried to deflect blame by saying "No, no, let me answer his question", and then he didn't fuss when they started dragging him away anyway. If it were me who was speaking, I would have vociferously told them to unhand that man at once. But then again, paradoxically, I would never have to answer to questions like that.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 4.2.3 Copyright © 2024 vBulletin Solutions, Inc. All rights reserved.