Leaked U.S. Army Document Outlines Plan For Re-Education Camps In America

[John F Kennedy III]

Leaked U.S. Army Document Outlines Plan For Re-Education Camps In America

Political activists would be pacified to sympathize with the government

Paul Joseph Watson
Infowars.com
Thursday, May 3, 2012

A leaked U.S. Army document prepared for the Department of Defense contains shocking plans for “political activists” to be pacified by “PSYOP officers” into developing an “appreciation of U.S. policies” while detained in prison camps inside the United States.

The document, entitled FM 3-39.40 Internment and Resettlement Operations (PDF) was originally released on a restricted basis to the DoD in February 2010, but has now been leaked online.

The manual outlines policies for processing detainees into internment camps both globally and inside the United States. International agencies like the UN and the Red Cross are named as partners in addition to domestic federal agencies including the Department of Homeland Security and FEMA.

The document makes it clear that the policies apply “within U.S. territory” and involve, “DOD support to U.S. civil authorities for domestic emergencies, and for designated law enforcement and other activities,” including “man-made disasters, accidents, terrorist attacks and incidents in the U.S. and its territories.”

The manual states, “These operations may be performed as domestic civil support operations,” and adds that “The authority to approve resettlement such operations within U.S. territories,” would require a “special exception” to The Posse Comitatus Act, which can be obtained via “the President invoking his executive authority.” The document also makes reference to identifying detainees using their “social security number.”

Aside from enemy combatants and other classifications of detainees, the manual includes the designation of “civilian internees,” in other words citizens who are detained for, “security reasons, for protection, or because he or she committed an offense against the detaining power.”

Once the detainees have been processed into the internment camp, the manual explains how they will be “indoctrinated,” with a particular focus on targeting political dissidents, into expressing support for U.S. policies.

The re-education process is the responsibility of the “Psychological Operations Officer,” whose job it is to design “PSYOP products that are designed to pacify and acclimate detainees or DCs to accept U.S. I/R facility authority and regulations,” according to the document.

The manual lists the following roles that are designated to the “PSYOP team”.

- Identifies malcontents, trained agitators, and political leaders within the facility who may try to organize resistance or create disturbances.

- Develops and executes indoctrination programs to reduce or remove antagonistic attitudes.

- Identifies political activists.

- Provides loudspeaker support (such as administrative announcements and facility instructions when necessary).

- Helps the military police commander control detainee and DC populations during emergencies.

- Plans and executes a PSYOP program that produces an understanding and appreciation of U.S. policies and actions.

Remember, this is not restricted to insurgents in Iraq who are detained in prison camps – the manual makes it clear that the policies also apply “within U.S. territory” under the auspices of the DHS and FEMA. The document adds that, “Resettlement operations may require large groups of civilians to be quartered temporarily (less than 6 months) or semipermanently (more than 6 months).”

The historical significance of states using internment camps to re-educate detainees centers around the fact that it is almost exclusively practiced by repressive and dictatorial regimes like the former Soviet Union and Stalinist regimes like modern day North Korea.

We have exhaustively documented preparations for the mass internment of citizens inside America, but this is the first time that language concerning the re-education of detainees, in particular political activists, has cropped up in our research.

In 2009, the National Guard posted a number of job opportunities looking for “Internment/Resettlement Specialists” to work in “civilian internee camps” within the United States.

In December last year it was also revealed that Halliburton subsidiary KBR is seeking sub-contractors to staff and outfit “emergency environment” camps located in five regions of the United States.

In 2006, KBR was contracted by Homeland Security to build detention centers designed to deal with “an emergency influx of immigrants into the U.S,” or the rapid development of unspecified “new programs” that would require large numbers of people to be interned.

Rex 84, short for Readiness Exercise 1984, was established under the pretext of a “mass exodus” of illegal aliens crossing the Mexican/US border, the same pretense used in the language of the KBR request for services.

During the Iran-Contra hearings in 1987, however, it was revealed that the program was a secretive “scenario and drill” developed by the federal government to suspend the Constitution, declare martial law, assign military commanders to take over state and local governments, and detain large numbers of American citizens determined by the government to be “national security threats.”

Under the indefinite detention provision of the National Defense Authorization Act, which was signed by Barack Obama on New Year’s Eve, American citizens can be kidnapped and detained indefinitely without trial.

Read a portion of the Internment and Resettlement Operations manual below.
http://static.prisonplanet.com/p/images/may2012/030512shot.jpg

The following portions of the document make it clear that the policies apply “within U.S. territory” (as well as abroad in countries like Iraq and Afghanistan) and that domestic federal agencies are involved.

http://static.prisonplanet.com/p/images/may2012/030512shot4.jpg

http://static.prisonplanet.com/p/images/may2012/030512shot3.jpg

Added thanks to DamianTV:

Alex Jones reports on this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ck5wt4m8SZg
Links to references on YouTube Page.

Part 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=ck5wt4m8SZg

Part 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=skANDQhdZu8

Part 3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIsKjOe11bc&feature=player_detailpage

original article here:
http://www.infowars.com/leaked-u-s-army-document-outlines-plan-for-re-education-camps-in-america/

[UMULAS]

I was going to say where did you get this untill I found out It was from Infowars.com...

[JoshLowry]

InfoWars.com is more reliable than FoxNews.com or CNN.com

Where would you prefer to read an article that talks about a specific leaked pdf file?

[dannno]

Where would you prefer to read an article that talks about a specific leaked pdf file?

Or a better question, where else could you expect to see an article discussing this specific leaked pdf file? Probably not any of the other places you mentioned.

[LimitedGovernment]

I prefer to examine the original documents myself. Alex and Paul put out a lot of bad information and spin things in a sensationalist way. That might be all that UMULAS was thinking.

[RickyJ]

There won't be any "re-education" going on in those camps, they will be slave labor until they are either too old, drop dead, or escape.

They don't need camps to kill people, just like the Germans didn't need them to kill people. Camps are not for killing people, they are for detaining them and using them.

[kill the banks]

I'm a dead man if they get me

[Indy Vidual]

Will the food at camp be organic or GMO?
Do we still get to watch NFL games on big screen TV's? :o

[Liberty74]

I was going to say where did you get this untill I found out It was from Infowars.com...

And? So the information is wrong?

Alex Jones is waking a crap load of people up. A lot of what he has claimed came true OR is coming true. You might have a knee jerk reaction to such news because it's an in your face attack dog mentality that tells it like it is, but that does not mean the information is wrong.

I started listening to Alex last year in total disgust. I was indoctrinated by Rush, Beck, Hannity, Levin, etc since the early 90s. After about 90 days, I woke up. The later talk show hosts are total fakes. They talk a good conservative talk (like Fox News) but are not interested in reporting the truth and what's really going on in America. I remember the day Rush was going crazy about the passing of NDAA. Ugh, where have you been dude? Of course Rush is going to become a team player and support Romney who has already committed treason by saying that he supported the NDAA as passed. Lick those boots Rushy.

And unless more Americans wake up, they will be licking the boots too unless they take one of the 450 million rounds of bullets bought by the HSD. :p

You can listen to Alex via iTunes radio or get his iPhone app. The 3 hour show for the day is on constant loop. I get a my few hours every morning at work. He will break you from the false left right matrix you are probably stuck in like every other American.

[John F Kennedy III]

And? So the information is wrong?

Alex Jones is waking a crap load of people up. A lot of what he has claimed came true OR is coming true. You might have a knee jerk reaction to such news because it's an in your face attack dog mentality that tells it like it is, but that does not mean the information is wrong.

I started listening to Alex last year in total disgust. I was indoctrinated by Rush, Beck, Hannity, Levin, etc since the early 90s. After about 90 days, I woke up. The later talk show hosts are total fakes. They talk a good conservative talk (like Fox News) but are not interested in reporting the truth and what's really going on in America. I remember the day Rush was going crazy about the passing of NDAA. Ugh, where have you been dude? Of course Rush is going to become a team player and support Romney who has already committed treason by saying that he supported the NDAA as passed. Lick those boots Rushy.

And unless more Americans wake up, they will be licking the boots too unless they take one of the 450 million rounds of bullets bought by the HSD. :p

You can listen to Alex via iTunes radio or get his iPhone app. The 3 hour show for the day is on constant loop. I get a my few hours every morning at work. He will break you from the false left right matrix you are probably stuck in like every other American.

+rep

[marcirvine]

I was going to say where did you get this untill I found out It was from Infowars.com...

If you doubt the article so much, just read the document yourself. Alex Jones provides the news, it is up to you to follow up on it.

[John F Kennedy III]

InfoWars.com is more reliable than FoxNews.com or CNN.com

Where would you prefer to read an article that talks about a specific leaked pdf file?

I don't know about him, but for some reason alot of people around here act like AJ/InfoWars is the same as MSM. I'll never understand why people trust him. He is well sourced and talks about lots of things MSM won't. Things that actually are important. He fights hard for liberty and always seeks to tell the truth. While MSM does the complete opposite.

One member actually despises AJ so much he neg reps me and flags my post whenever he sees I posted an InfoWars article. Which I find entertaining, except it's a waste of mods' time.

[John F Kennedy III]

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[idiom]

When you have a department just for thinking up contingency plans you get this stuff.

What if there was a sudden sea level rise due to the disruption of a major glacier that caused serious inland flooding? What happens when (not if) a serious meteorite event happens?

Modern Americans do not all respond well to cataclysmic events. FEMA is a joke. So the Army thinks it has a valid role in this sort of thing.

[UMULAS]

And? So the information is wrong?

Alex Jones is waking a crap load of people up. A lot of what he has claimed came true OR is coming true. You might have a knee jerk reaction to such news because it's an in your face attack dog mentality that tells it like it is, but that does not mean the information is wrong.

I started listening to Alex last year in total disgust. I was indoctrinated by Rush, Beck, Hannity, Levin, etc since the early 90s. After about 90 days, I woke up. The later talk show hosts are total fakes. They talk a good conservative talk (like Fox News) but are not interested in reporting the truth and what's really going on in America. I remember the day Rush was going crazy about the passing of NDAA. Ugh, where have you been dude? Of course Rush is going to become a team player and support Romney who has already committed treason by saying that he supported the NDAA as passed. Lick those boots Rushy.

And unless more Americans wake up, they will be licking the boots too unless they take one of the 450 million rounds of bullets bought by the HSD. :p

You can listen to Alex via iTunes radio or get his iPhone app. The 3 hour show for the day is on constant loop. I get a my few hours every morning at work. He will break you from the false left right matrix you are probably stuck in like every other American.

You do understand that getting your resources from him is not considered to be reliable. Although AJ gets a few stuff right he blasts about every single thing.

[DamianTV]

Alex Jones reports on this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ck5wt4m8SZg
Links to references on YouTube Page.

Part 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=ck5wt4m8SZg

Part 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=skANDQhdZu8

Part 3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIsKjOe11bc&feature=player_detailpage

[John F Kennedy III]

You do understand that getting your resources from him is not considered to be reliable. Although AJ gets a few stuff right he blasts about every single thing.

LOL.

[Lishy]

I might not like Alex, but if you actually check his site, he often cites his sources.

But don't worry. Even though these documents were leaked, everything is okay-MAGIC WAND!!!!

[sparebulb]

You do understand that getting your resources from him is not considered to be reliable. Although AJ gets a few stuff right he blasts about every single thing.

I know that you want to help us out. Please tell us a better place to get more reliable information.

[pcosmar]

I was going to say where did you get this untill I found out It was from Infowars.com...

I remember when Alex broke the MIAC Report.

A lot of similar comments.

"fake" "photoshoped" "bullshit"

Then is was admitted to be true by the Missouri police..

Do you know what Fusion Centers are? Do you know that they are growing in power since that story broke?

[pcosmar]

You do understand that getting your resources from him is not considered to be reliable. Although AJ gets a few stuff right he blasts about every single thing.

He has broken several stories that have been proven true.. That the MSM still has never investigated or reported.

Who is reliable?
The MSM sold the Viet Nam war based on lies.
The MSM sold the Iran invasion based on lies.

They said Perry was a "Front Runner" the day he announced.

This list goes on to infinity,,,

Who is reliable?

[Feelgood]

InfoWars.com is more reliable than FoxNews.com or CNN.com

Where would you prefer to read an article that talks about a specific leaked pdf file?

Yea, I want to get my news and read articles from 911 Truther whack jobs! Now I understand why this guy still hasnt been banned for infowar spam despite my constantly flagging his spam. :rolleyes: Why is it if you put someone like this on ignore, these thread even have to show up on my screen? You would THINK ignore means COMPLETELY IGNORE!

[pcosmar]

Yea, I want to get my news and read articles from 911 Truther whack jobs! Now I understand why this guy still hasnt been banned for infowar spam despite my constantly flagging his spam. :rolleyes: Why is it if you put someone like this on ignore, these thread even have to show up on my screen? You would THINK ignore means COMPLETELY IGNORE!

It is not SPAM,,
They are news stories.

I have never been an AJ or Infowars follower,, but I do appreciate many of the articles posted here over the years.

No one is forcing you to log in here. or to click on any of the treads..

Perhaps you would be more comfortable on some Fox or CNN forum.

[Domalais]

1) This new "Obama plan for imprisoning Americans?" This is not a new manual. It's just under a new numbering system. Behold the caption on page i.

*This publication supersedes FM 3-19.40, 4 September 2007.

Look up that one. Uh oh, another caption.

*This publication supersedes FM 19-40, 27 February 1976, and FM 19-60, 27 May 1986.

Here's the 1952 version of FM 19-40: http://www.loc.gov/rr/frd/Military_Law/pdf/Handling-POWs.pdf

And the 1961 version of FM 19-40: http://www.survivalebooks.com/free%20manuals/1961%20US%20Army%20Vietnam%20War%20Confinement%20o f%20Military%20Prisoners%20120p.pdf

PS: *This manual supersedes chapter 5, FM 19-5, 7 July 1959.

Feel free to compare and contrast the 2010 version with the 1959 version.


2) Army FMs are not plans. They are field manuals.

If that sounds scary to you, consider FM 4-01.502 ARMY WATERCRAFT SAFETY

Oooh. The secret Army plan to have wicked fun riding Jetskis.


3) If this is a plan to illegally imprison Americans, please explain one of the screenshots in the OP. Why the detail on legality and Constitutionality?

http://static.prisonplanet.com/p/images/may2012/030512shot4.jpg


4) For those asking for source, http://lmgtfy.com/?q=fm+3-39.40

[Marenco]

Infowars does often cite it's sources and even links to MSM sources frequently.

AJ even tells listeners to not take his word for it and look up the info and think for themselves, so i don't see what the big deal is.

[oyarde]

There won't be any "re-education" going on in those camps, they will be slave labor until they are either too old, drop dead, or escape.

They don't need camps to kill people, just like the Germans didn't need them to kill people. Camps are not for killing people, they are for detaining them and using them. Dang straight , fuckers are not getting all my good recipes that easy :) , I will never be taken alive.

[oyarde]

I don't know about him, but for some reason alot of people around here act like AJ/InfoWars is the same as MSM. I'll never understand why people trust him. He is well sourced and talks about lots of things MSM won't. Things that actually are important. He fights hard for liberty and always seeks to tell the truth. While MSM does the complete opposite.

One member actually despises AJ so much he neg reps me and flags my post whenever he sees I posted an InfoWars article. Which I find entertaining, except it's a waste of mods' time. Well , it was not me No. 3 . , by the way if you end up in Oklahoma for some reason , on your way back , let me know ... :) , I may have forgotten something there , if , I could just remember what it was ,,,,

[oyarde]

1) This new "Obama plan for imprisoning Americans?" This is not a new manual. It's just under a new numbering system. Behold the caption on page i.

*This publication supersedes FM 3-19.40, 4 September 2007.

Look up that one. Uh oh, another caption.

*This publication supersedes FM 19-40, 27 February 1976, and FM 19-60, 27 May 1986.

Here's the 1952 version of FM 19-40: http://www.loc.gov/rr/frd/Military_Law/pdf/Handling-POWs.pdf

And the 1961 version of FM 19-40: http://www.survivalebooks.com/free%20manuals/1961%20US%20Army%20Vietnam%20War%20Confinement%20o f%20Military%20Prisoners%20120p.pdf

PS: *This manual supersedes chapter 5, FM 19-5, 7 July 1959.

Feel free to compare and contrast the 2010 version with the 1959 version.


2) Army FMs are not plans. They are field manuals.

If that sounds scary to you, consider FM 4-01.502 ARMY WATERCRAFT SAFETY

Oooh. The secret Army plan to have wicked fun riding Jetskis.


3) If this is a plan to illegally imprison Americans, please explain one of the screenshots in the OP. Why the detail on legality and Constitutionality?

http://static.prisonplanet.com/p/images/may2012/030512shot4.jpg


4) For those asking for source, http://lmgtfy.com/?q=fm+3-39.40 Well , If you were the one who has all of my field manuals , send me a pm and let me know where I put the three I have been looking for ;)

[oyarde]

I remember when Alex broke the MIAC Report.

A lot of similar comments.

"fake" "photoshoped" "bullshit"

Then is was admitted to be true by the Missouri police..

Do you know what Fusion Centers are? Do you know that they are growing in power since that story broke? Did not look photo shopped to me ...

[DamianTV]

Yea, I want to get my news and read articles from 911 Truther whack jobs! Now I understand why this guy still hasnt been banned for infowar spam despite my constantly flagging his spam. :rolleyes: Why is it if you put someone like this on ignore, these thread even have to show up on my screen? You would THINK ignore means COMPLETELY IGNORE!

Its all a "Conspiracy" until the men dressed in non specific black outfits take you out of your house in the middle of the night and ship you off to a "Re-education Centre" for your "protection".

Now, in regards to his "Right" to say it, know this: The Popular Message will NEVER need the Protection of the First Amendment. The First Amendment is there to protect the Rights those that say the Unpopular Message. And flagging as "Spam" does nothing but try to take away his Right to say what you dont agree with.

Having served in the US Military, I learned one valuable thing: it is more important to protect the beliefs of the people who are different than you than those that are the same as you. So where are you going to be when others need your help?

[Paul Or Nothing II]

I prefer to examine the original documents myself. Alex and Paul put out a lot of bad information and spin things in a sensationalist way. That might be all that UMULAS was thinking.

Well, I agree about Alex but what did Ron Paul do to put out "bad information"????


When you have a department just for thinking up contingency plans you get this stuff.

What if there was a sudden sea level rise due to the disruption of a major glacier that caused serious inland flooding? What happens when (not if) a serious meteorite event happens?

Modern Americans do not all respond well to cataclysmic events. FEMA is a joke. So the Army thinks it has a valid role in this sort of thing.

+1

Nice to see some sanity around these places with an actual use of some real reasoning rather than resorting absolute sensationalism & conspiracism :)

I don't know why people don't spend so much time on learning about liberty & economics instead of wasting time on frivolous endeavors :(

[idiom]

Thanks, I know that after the Christchurch Earthquake here in New Zealand we could have really done with some ready-to-deploy refugee camps.

[libertarian4321]

And? So the information is wrong?

Alex Jones is waking a crap load of people up.

Alex Jones being Alex Jones.

This "secret" "leaked" Army manual has been online for YEARS (the 2010 edition is just a routine update to a much older manual- this particular field manual is at least 50 years old) at many websites- freely available to anyone with an internet connection and access to Google.

As usual, Jones and his conspiracy theorist pals liberally cut and paste snippets out of context and use it to concoct a sensational conspiracy theory.

Want an example? Go to the "infowars" page. Near the bottom, he highlights a section about a "Psychological Officer" then highlights a section about "resettlement" and flies off the handle about how this proves that the military is planning to round up and "re-educate" American civilians.

Of course, anyone who is paying attention will realize the "Psyops" line came from chapter 3, which talks about POWs and detainees and the resettlement line came from chapter 10, which talks about the use of the military, including the National Guard, to help provide food, shelter, clothing, etc to victims of natural disasters and other calamities.

Clearly, one item has nothing to do with the other, but Alex Jones does his "cut and paste" artistry to try and fool you into drawing a sensational (and nonsensical) conclusion.

If anyone else did this, we'd all be calling him a liar and a fraud. But when Alex Jones does it, a lot of people in these forums give him a free pass.

What I don't understand is why so many Ron Paul supporters, who tend to be cynical (and rightfully so), take the word of Alex Jones as Gospel, even after he's been shown to be full of crap time and time again.

Alex Jones ain't Ron Paul, folks.

Yes, I know, he supports Ron Paul. And he also points out government excesses and gives air time to tell stories that other outlets don't cover or only cover briefly (e.g. cases of police abuse, etc).

But he's also a bully, a blowhard and a charlatan who has shown time and time again that he will broadcast sensationalist bull shit that he must know is wrong (he's not stupid) just to get ratings. He has also shown a propensity to bully and walk all over other people, including those in the liberty movement, just to bring attention to himself.

I'm not saying don't listen to the guy, but evaluate what he says with the huge amount of skepticism that it deserves, just as you would if the words were coming from Romney or Obama or Rush Limbaugh or any other BS artist.

Don't pack for the "FEMA Camp" just yet based on this "story."

[mrsat_98]

Yea, I want to get my news and read articles from 911 Truther whack jobs!

I just don't feel good with all these 911 truth denying whack jobs around here. Where is the ignore button ?

[oyarde]

Thanks, I know that after the Christchurch Earthquake here in New Zealand we could have really done with some ready-to-deploy refugee camps. You can have my regions fema camp if you can find it. Just tell 'em , I said it was ok. I have no use for it and do not wish to pay for it. ;)

[oyarde]

I always liked reading AR 600-9 for entertainment.

[osan]

Leaked U.S. Army Document Outlines Plan For Re-Education Camps In America

This is a spectacular set of assertions. I will not dismiss it, but I think a lot more is needed for acceptance.


Read a portion of the Internment and Resettlement Operations manual below.
http://static.prisonplanet.com/p/images/may2012/030512shot.jpg

Unfortunately, the provenance of this document is zero. Anyone can format cleverly ominous reading material. We need more, but where can one get it? If this is legitimate, those responsible are not likely to be very helpful.


Any suggestions for further nut-cracking?

If this is legit, then I will say it's been a privilege participating here. See you in camp.

[Zippyjuan]

One can read the PDF here: http://info.publicintelligence.net/USArmy-InternmentResettlement.pdf
It is a manual 326 pages long about military detainees from conflicts- not rounding up of civiians. It does refer to the assistance of displaced civilians- again, as a result of combat.

Preface
Field manual (FM) 3-39.40 is aligned with FM 3-39, the military police keystone FM. FM 3-39.40 provides
guidance for commanders and staffs on internment and resettlement (I/R) operations. This manual addresses I/R
operations across the spectrum of conflict, specifically the doctrinal paradigm shift from traditional enemy
prisoner of war (EPW) operations to the broader and more inclusive requirements of detainee operations.
Additionally, FM 3-39.40 discusses the critical issue of detainee rehabilitation. It describes the doctrinal
foundation, principles, and processes that military police and other elements will employ when dealing with I/R
populations. As part of internment, these populations include U.S. military prisoners, and multiple categories of
detainees (civilian internees [CIs], retained personnel [RP], and enemy combatants), while resettlement
operations are focused on multiple categories of dislocated civilians (DCs).

Military police conduct I/R operations during offensive, defensive, stability, or civil support operations. I/R
operations include military police support to U.S. military prisoner and detainee operations within operational
environments (OEs), ranging from major combat operations to humanitarian-assistance missions in support of a
host nation (HN) or civil agency. I/R operations are a major subordinate Army tactical task under the
sustainment warfighting function. (See FM 7-15.) Placement under the sustainment warfighting function does
not mean that I/R operations do not have relevance in the other warfighting functions. While I/R is listed under
the sustainment warfighting function, it should be noted this is not a specified or implied mission of all
sustainment units or commands. Most sustainment units provide logistics, personnel services, and health service
support to I/R operations.

Military police are uniquely qualified to perform the full range of I/R operations. They have the requisite skill
sets provided through specific training and operational experience. The skills necessary for performing
confinement operations for U.S. military prisoners in permanent facilities are directly transferable and adaptable
for tactical confinement of U.S. military prisoners and detention of detainees. All military police units are
specifically manned, equipped, and trained to perform I/R operations across the spectrum and those identified as
I/R units are the specialists within the Army for this role.

[puppetmaster]

I'm a dead man if they get me

this would make a great billboard......imagine seeing this .....so powerful


http://www.ronpaulforums.com/signaturepics/sigpic4336_1.gif

[libertygrl]

I don't know about him, but for some reason alot of people around here act like AJ/InfoWars is the same as MSM. I'll never understand why people trust him. He is well sourced and talks about lots of things MSM won't. Things that actually are important. He fights hard for liberty and always seeks to tell the truth. While MSM does the complete opposite.

One member actually despises AJ so much he neg reps me and flags my post whenever he sees I posted an InfoWars article. Which I find entertaining, except it's a waste of mods' time.

Yeah, I don't get it either. He has broken many censored news stories over the years. He also has an excellent research staff and inside people such as former intelligence workers. The only thing I don't like is that he tends to have a big ego. I recall he took over some sort of rally in TX claiming that the people were going about it the wrong way and then he mocked some woman after she said she was inspired by him to become an activist. That really pissed me off about him. I'd rather read the articles than listen to him as his voice is like listening to someone scratching their nails across a blackboard! :p

[John F Kennedy III]

Yeah, I don't get it either. He has broken many censored news stories over the years. He also has an excellent research staff and inside people such as former intelligence workers. The only thing I don't like is that he tends to have a big ego. I recall he took over some sort of rally in TX claiming that the people were going about it the wrong way and then he mocked some woman after she said she was inspired by him to become an activist. That really pissed me off about him. I'd rather read the articles than listen to him as his voice is like listening to someone scratching their nails across a blackboard! :p

Haha the voice is from screaming so much. As for taking over that rally and mocking that woman, I've never heard of it. Could be true, but I know there's times where people get permits to be where he was going to be and then pretend he is crashing their rally.

[oyarde]

I do not know this guy Jones, but pretty sure I will end up running into him somewhere , just , hope I do not get stuck with picking up the tab ...

[LibertyEagle]

And? So the information is wrong?

Alex Jones is waking a crap load of people up. A lot of what he has claimed came true OR is coming true. You might have a knee jerk reaction to such news because it's an in your face attack dog mentality that tells it like it is, but that does not mean the information is wrong.

I started listening to Alex last year in total disgust. I was indoctrinated by Rush, Beck, Hannity, Levin, etc since the early 90s. After about 90 days, I woke up. The later talk show hosts are total fakes. They talk a good conservative talk (like Fox News) but are not interested in reporting the truth and what's really going on in America. I remember the day Rush was going crazy about the passing of NDAA. Ugh, where have you been dude? Of course Rush is going to become a team player and support Romney who has already committed treason by saying that he supported the NDAA as passed. Lick those boots Rushy.

And unless more Americans wake up, they will be licking the boots too unless they take one of the 450 million rounds of bullets bought by the HSD. :p

You can listen to Alex via iTunes radio or get his iPhone app. The 3 hour show for the day is on constant loop. I get a my few hours every morning at work. He will break you from the false left right matrix you are probably stuck in like every other American.

Last time I checked, this was Ron Paul forums; not Alex Jones forums. But since you are advertising him, I will say that I think he is controlled opposition and gets a paycheck from the government.

[Xhin]

AJ even tells listeners to not take his word for it and look up the info and think for themselves, so i don't see what the big deal is.

Most people don't though. It's generally pretty time-consuming to comb through a 20-page house bill or a 300-page army field manual, so people will tend to accept other peoples' interpretations as irrefutable fact so long as it agrees with their mentality. The real problem is that the people who are supposedly "woken up" still refuse to think for themselves, instead shifting their trust from the MSM to the makers of conspiracy theories without doing any actual research or thinking of their own.


Infowars does often cite it's sources and even links to MSM sources frequently.

Infowars is incredibly well-sourced. The problem is that it extrapolates WAAAAAAAAY too much out of perfectly innocuous stories. He does get some things right, but it's hard to take him seriously when he can take a story about a guy who reported that *maybe* a government official was looking into *one* mormon food supply place (although even this was later recounted by the actual source), and turn it into "GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS ARE CRACKING DOWN ON FOOD PREPPERS".

Something's clearly going on and has been for at least since last summer, so at least the guy is trying to piece together what exactly is happening, but some of the interpretations and correlations he makes are completely ridiculous. The problem is that some of the pieces fit together perfectly, but they're not enough to make a full story out of, so in order to sell whatever infowars is you have to also fill it with a lot of bullshit and current news that's completely unrelated to keep readers interested.

And yes, since I'm using reason and past experience with AJ stories to (mostly) denounce infowars, I'm clearly a plant by the CIA to infilitrate these forums and make sure you guys stay sheep :P

[RickyJ]

Last time I checked, this was Ron Paul forums; not Alex Jones forums. But since you are advertising him, I will say that I think he is controlled opposition and gets a paycheck from the government.

I think he is controlled too, but not by the US government. That doesn't mean that I don't think he tells the truth most of the time, because I think he does. Most controlled opposition agents tell the truth most of the time to gain credibility, but then lie about really important stuff, about who is the enemy and who are your friends.

[QuickZ06]

I don't know about him, but for some reason alot of people around here act like AJ/InfoWars is the same as MSM. I'll never understand why people trust him. He is well sourced and talks about lots of things MSM won't. Things that actually are important. He fights hard for liberty and always seeks to tell the truth. While MSM does the complete opposite.

One member actually despises AJ so much he neg reps me and flags my post whenever he sees I posted an InfoWars article. Which I find entertaining, except it's a waste of mods' time.


+REP!!!!!

[John F Kennedy III]

Last time I checked, this was Ron Paul forums; not Alex Jones forums. But since you are advertising him, I will say that I think he is controlled opposition and gets a paycheck from the government.

Can only discuss Ron on RPF? I had no idea.

Also you think AJ is controlled? Care to give any concrete evidence to support this or is it completely baseless?

[timosman]

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