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Tiso0770
05-03-2012, 04:02 PM
Get Ready!!!!, we need an alternative site everyone.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xU_vY1IJWJY

sailingaway
05-03-2012, 04:06 PM
Is that what happened to the Ron Paul 2008 site?

There are others, one was even liberty oriented but I sure can't remember its name....

Tyler_Durden
05-03-2012, 04:08 PM
It's more like SOPA, right?

CISPA isnt censorship. It's reporting, databasing, and tracking, I believe.

Tiso0770
05-03-2012, 04:10 PM
I believe so, has CISPA passed the Senate yet?, been awhile since i checked.

Ivash
05-03-2012, 04:48 PM
There really isn't much of an alternative to youtube...

jmdrake
05-03-2012, 04:54 PM
There really isn't much of an alternative to youtube...

Actually there is.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu-zTrq_UlY

Upload whatever content to multiple video streaming websites. Then if a video gets taken down on one site it can still be viewed on another. TubeMogul lets you upload content to multiple video sites at once. What's needed from a technical perspective is a "mirror" website that will check those sites, and if the video is taken down from the primary site, "serve" the video from one of the other sites. That would break the back of the YouTube monopoly.

Ivash
05-03-2012, 05:05 PM
Doesn't Youtube have an audience of all the others combined times two?

Excepting porn site, I mean.

TheGrinch
05-03-2012, 05:08 PM
Doesn't Youtube have an audience of all the others combined times two?

Excepting porn site, I mean.
And it will continue to if you support a monopoly that doesn't support your right to free speech, fair use and due process.

I'm seriously contemplating a google purge for the principle, but they're hell bent on controlling the internet and invading privacy no matter where you go.

Carson
05-03-2012, 06:11 PM
I afraid it is to little, to late.

coffeewithchess
05-03-2012, 07:17 PM
Is that what happened to the Ron Paul 2008 site?

There are others, one was even liberty oriented but I sure can't remember its name....

Mine this morning...literally within 5 minutes of a video that contained no copyrighted material.

CaseyJones
05-03-2012, 07:25 PM
how about http://www.dailymotion.com/us ?

Barrex
05-03-2012, 07:30 PM
Doesn't Youtube have an audience of all the others combined times two?

Excepting porn site, I mean.

Ok.We got consensus. We post only on porn sites from now on.

I allready posted this on coffeewithchess (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/member.php?1987-coffeewithchess)ss (s?) thread:

Why dont we start reporting their youtube, twitter, facebook etc accounts(Mit, CNN, FOX)?

idiom
05-03-2012, 07:33 PM
Ok.We got consensus. We post only on porn sites from now on.

Finally a plan to reach female voters!

coffeewithchess
05-03-2012, 07:33 PM
Time to redirect the 99% crowds to their offices...at least let them do something useful in their milling about, and demand a way for users to be heard.

jmdrake
05-03-2012, 07:36 PM
Doesn't Youtube have an audience of all the others combined times two?

Excepting porn site, I mean.

So what? I'm not saying don't have videos on YouTube. I'm saying post videos on multiple sites. It's no extra cost as all of these sites will let you host for free. The software I referenced will let you host on multiple sites simultaneously, so there really is no extra time cost either. If people consistently post videos on non-YouTube websites, those other sites will become more popular. And regardless of the "popularity" issue, if you have your video hosted on multiple sites, when one gets taken down you have a backup. Plus some school/library networks block YouTube (my son's school does) so having your info on multiple sites means better your content has a better chance not to be blocked by internet filtering. Really there's so many reasons to host on sites other than just YouTube that the only legitimate question is why won't people think this through and stop hosting only on YouTube?


And it will continue to if you support a monopoly that doesn't support your right to free speech, fair use and due process.


Exactly! Following the "YouTube is the most popular so I will only use YouTube" idea is a self-fulfilling, self-defeating prophecy.

The Goat
05-03-2012, 07:37 PM
how about http://www.dailymotion.com/us ?

soft porn with an on/off switch. lol

coffeewithchess
05-03-2012, 07:44 PM
<iframe src="http://player.vimeo.com/video/432397" width="500" height="335" frameborder="0" webkitAllowFullScreen mozallowfullscreen allowFullScreen></iframe>

Did that work???????

So, another issue with none YouTube players...embedding is going to have to be learned a new way.

jmdrake
05-03-2012, 07:51 PM
<iframe src="http://player.vimeo.com/video/432397" width="500" height="335" frameborder="0" webkitAllowFullScreen mozallowfullscreen allowFullScreen></iframe>

Did that work???????

So, another issue with none YouTube players...embedding is going to have to be learned a new way.


https://vimeo.com/video/432397


www.dailymotion.com/video/xo9q4i_ron-paul-looks-to-caucus-states_news?search_algo=1

Hmmm....I've seen non YouTube videos embedded at RPF before. I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong.

hueylong
05-03-2012, 08:06 PM
Vimeo.com is a good alternative

coffeewithchess
05-03-2012, 08:20 PM
Vimeo.com is a good alternative

Nevermind, figured it out.

Anywho, this was the video that YouTube terminated my account over....LOL, mind boggling.

https://vimeo.com/41533482

GeorgiaAvenger
05-03-2012, 08:25 PM
Hope LibertyPen stays up

jolynna
05-03-2012, 08:39 PM
The Universal Health Care ad is cute. I just tweeted it. I see NOTHING in that ad that would have gotten it pulled.

Lishy
05-03-2012, 08:40 PM
Calm the fuck down. Seriously. This shit on youtube happens ALL the time to high profile figures!

cindy25
05-03-2012, 08:47 PM
There really isn't much of an alternative to youtube...

wrong

there is Daily Motion; there is Pirate Bay; there is warez-bb; and dozens of other alternatives.

RIPLEYMOM
05-03-2012, 09:06 PM
Hi everybody! This is a good explanation of CISPA:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=wdp3-3Lmlrs

coffeewithchess
05-03-2012, 09:08 PM
Calm the fuck down. Seriously. This shit on youtube happens ALL the time to high profile figures!

I would agree if this was normal, but considering that my account consisted of nothing but video containing mashed up news clips, and original video content with no copyright issues, there's something else going on here.
This video:

https://vimeo.com/41533482

was removed, and my whole account closed because of that video? On an attempt to replay the video from YouTube after it was posted, it was said something like, "This content was removed because of spam, scam, and ....." one more thing I think.
Anyway, not sure how they consider a video about health care and pointing out the candidates differences/not differences on the issue, "spam, scam, etc.", and they haven't replied to any forms so far, other than the auto-generated responses.

Cleaner44
05-03-2012, 09:12 PM
http://vimeo.com/

Vimeo, Video Sharing For You (http://vimeo.com/)

WilliamC
05-03-2012, 09:15 PM
Yes, those of you with know-how figure out how to counter this.

Multiple, alternative sites to host videos are out there, l just need to figure some things out.

But this could easily turn out to be one of the biggest signs yet that we are on the verge of winning, now things are getting serious.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlOxiwGLAkY

jmdrake
05-03-2012, 09:16 PM
Nevermind, figured it out.

Anywho, this was the video that YouTube terminated my account over....LOL, mind boggling.

https://vimeo.com/41533482

Good job! (both on the video and figuring out the problem).

jmdrake
05-03-2012, 09:25 PM
Calm the fuck down. Seriously. This shit on youtube happens ALL the time to high profile figures!

And folks get molested by the TSA all the time too. At some point it's time to stand up and be counted. It's also time to be prudent. At this juncture using YouTube as your only place to host your videos isn't prudent.

coffeewithchess
05-03-2012, 09:28 PM
And folks get molested by the TSA all the time too. At some point it's time to stand up and be counted. It's also time to be prudent. At this juncture using YouTube as your only place to host your videos isn't prudent.

I really do wonder what the founding fathers would do in this situation...when the war started, a majority of the citizens didn't want anything to do with it, simply to be left alone. Eventually though, it spread...and more and more joined the fight.

drummergirl
05-03-2012, 09:29 PM
That's ok; let them get the dirty tricks out of their systems while we still have plenty of time before Tampa... bwahahahahaha;)

Constitutional Paulicy
05-04-2012, 01:05 AM
Actually there is.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu-zTrq_UlY

Upload whatever content to multiple video streaming websites. Then if a video gets taken down on one site it can still be viewed on another. TubeMogul lets you upload content to multiple video sites at once. What's needed from a technical perspective is a "mirror" website that will check those sites, and if the video is taken down from the primary site, "serve" the video from one of the other sites. That would break the back of the YouTube monopoly.

Just registered an account. Thanks for the insight!!!! :)

azxd
05-04-2012, 01:47 AM
A false flag war is not a good thing.

Has anyone tried to find out what's really going on ?

I ask because a youtube search for "Ron Paul" delivers 1.8 million hits :confused:

ETA: And I see nothing wrong with having stuff hosted at multiple locations ... The only thing better is your own server and a trusted ISP, or hosting yourself if you can afford it.

CaptainAmerica
05-04-2012, 02:29 AM
Is that what happened to the Ron Paul 2008 site?

There are others, one was even liberty oriented but I sure can't remember its name.... moxnews.

coffeewithchess
05-04-2012, 02:34 AM
moxnews.

Whoa....MoxNews got taken down also?

Wow, just Googled it...they are going hardcore on this, with no real reasons given. I know MoxNews did a lot of news clips and things, not sure how much was "Fair Use", but the fact they are going in and closing down entire accounts such as mine, on videos that contained no copyrighted materials...is really bizarre.
The worst part is you can't even get a human at Google/YouTube to respond to anything, and it's just auto-replies.

Constitutional Paulicy
05-04-2012, 03:40 AM
Whoa....MoxNews got taken down also?

Wow, just Googled it...they are going hardcore on this, with no real reasons given. I know MoxNews did a lot of news clips and things, not sure how much was "Fair Use", but the fact they are going in and closing down entire accounts such as mine, on videos that contained no copyrighted materials...is really bizarre.
The worst part is you can't even get a human at Google/YouTube to respond to anything, and it's just auto-replies.

MOXNEWS has been taken down numerous times. They juggle multiple Youtube accounts. As soon as the primary account gets suspended, they redirect their followers to their secondary/trimary accounts etc.

Constitutional Paulicy
05-04-2012, 03:41 AM
Whoa....MoxNews got taken down also?

Wow, just Googled it...they are going hardcore on this, with no real reasons given. I know MoxNews did a lot of news clips and things, not sure how much was "Fair Use", but the fact they are going in and closing down entire accounts such as mine, on videos that contained no copyrighted materials...is really bizarre.
The worst part is you can't even get a human at Google/YouTube to respond to anything, and it's just auto-replies.

MOXNEWS has been taken down numerous times. They juggle multiple Youtube accounts. As soon as the primary account gets suspended, they redirect their followers to their secondary/trimary accounts etc.