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Agorism
05-03-2012, 07:05 AM
http://multimedia.heraldinteractive.com/images/20120502/71dcbc_wra.jpg

http://bostonherald.com/news/politics/view/20220502warren_i_used_minority_listing_to_make_fri ends



Democratic Senate candidate Elizabeth Warren, fending off questions about whether she used her Native American heritage to advance her career, said today she enrolled herself as a minority in law school directories for nearly a decade because she hoped to meet other people with tribal roots.

“I listed myself in the directory in the hopes that it might mean that I would be invited to a luncheon, a group something that might happen with people who are like I am. Nothing like that ever happened, that was clearly not the use for it and so I stopped checking it off,” said Warren.

The Harvard Law professor argued she didn’t use her minority status to get her teaching jobs, and slammed her Republican rival U.S. Sen.Scott Brown for suggesting otherwise.


“The only one as I understand it who’s raising any question about whether or not I was qualified for my job is Scott Brown and I think I am qualified and frankly I’m a little shocked to hear anybody raise a question about whether or not I’m qualified to hold a job teaching,” she said, pushing to put Brown on defense. “What does he think it takes for a woman to be qualified?”

Warren is looking to shake off the story of her Native American background, which has hounded her since the Herald first reported that Harvard Law School has touted Warren as a minority hire. She also listed herself as a minority in a law school directory for nine years between 1986 and 1995.

“Being Native American has been part of my story I guess since the day I was born,” said Warren, who never mentioned her Native American heritage on the campaign trail even as she detailed much of her personal history to voters in speeches, statements and a video. “These are my family stories, I have lived in a family that has talked about Native American and talked about tribes since I was a little girl.”

Warren’s statements come as genealogists at the New England Historic Genealogical Society were unable to back up earlier accounts that her great great great grandmother is Cherokee. While Warren’s great great great grandmother, named O.C. Sarah Smith, is listed on a electronic transcript of a 1894 marriage application as Cherokee, the genealogists are unable to find the actual record or a photograhic copy of it, Society spokesman Tom Champoux said. A copy of the marriage license itself has been located, but unlike the application, it does not list Smith’s ethnicity.


http://scm-l3.technorati.com/11/05/23/34921/ward-churchill.jpg?t=20110523051024


Ward Churchill was also accused of being a fake Native American. I don't know if that panned out or not.

The Goat
05-03-2012, 07:33 AM
Damn, my great great grandmother was Cherokee. You mean I could be bulling organizations around for not treating me fairly as a minority. XD DISCRIMINATION!

Danke
05-03-2012, 07:38 AM
I'm a native American, with European ancestry.

jkr
05-03-2012, 07:39 AM
gr8!
lets start calling her Pocahontas !

Massachusetts
05-03-2012, 08:11 AM
This woman is nuts! I'm not too high on Scott Brown, but Elizabeth Warren has a lot of dirt.

thoughtomator
05-03-2012, 08:28 AM
The question now is whether there is grant fraud involved - if she got any "minority"-directed money she is a felon (one felony, at least, per incident).

tfurrh
05-03-2012, 08:29 AM
The term is 'pretendian.'

Occam's Banana
05-03-2012, 08:38 AM
Damn, my great great grandmother was Cherokee. You mean I could be bulling organizations around for not treating me fairly as a minority. XD DISCRIMINATION!
Mine was too! We gotta get us a piece of this action, Goat!

What's more, White Cloud (my GG-grandmom) married into the Hatfield clan. Are hillbillies a recognized minority? I could be a double-threat ...

Agorism
05-03-2012, 08:40 AM
Fake Indian Ward Churchill?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AtbGOBC1zU

Churchill thinks it's "racist" to ask him whether or not he's a Native American (even though he's not actually a Native American but he says "self-evidently" he is a Native American. Presumably he means that he sympathizes or associates with them therefore he thinks that he somehow is one at least in spirit if not in reality.)

Hyperion
05-03-2012, 08:47 AM
gr8!
lets start calling her Pocahontas !

hahaha perfect.

Paul Or Nothing II
05-03-2012, 08:50 AM
Ok so THIS is why all these white limousine liberals are constantly asking for more privileges to the minorities - so that they could advance themselves by claiming to be a minority :D

I hope she loses badly & never runs again; she's one of the stupidest socialists out there (not that socialists are ever smart but well)

WilliamC
05-03-2012, 09:09 AM
When exactly is she going to be arrested for fraud?

oyarde
05-03-2012, 10:38 AM
Ok so THIS is why all these white limousine liberals are constantly asking for more privileges to the minorities - so that they could advance themselves by claiming to be a minority :D

I hope she loses badly & never runs again; she's one of the stupidest socialists out there (not that socialists are ever smart but well) I think you are onto something ...

Kluge
05-03-2012, 10:46 AM
Ok so THIS is why all these white limousine liberals are constantly asking for more privileges to the minorities - so that they could advance themselves by claiming to be a minority :D

I hope she loses badly & never runs again; she's one of the stupidest socialists out there (not that socialists are ever smart but well)

Personally, I think it's because they think minorities are stupid and that they can buy their votes/loyalty cheap. And they're right in many cases.

On the flip side, the GOP does the same with the religious right.

Titus
05-03-2012, 12:04 PM
Nothing about this article is fraudulent. She was claiming it, allegedly to meet more people like herself. When that didn't happen, she quit claiming it. She never intended this as a method to improperly get ahead. Regardless of whether or not we agree with her stances or not, this is not fraud.

KingRobbStark
05-03-2012, 12:23 PM
Litmus test.

If you look white and have a European last name, then you're not Native American. I don't care if you're "1/3 or 4/3"

Agorism
05-03-2012, 04:06 PM
gr8!
lets start calling her Pocahontas !

Her name is actually Chief Spreading Bull.


Nothing about this article is fraudulent. She was claiming it, allegedly to meet more people like herself. When that didn't happen, she quit claiming it. She never intended this as a method to improperly get ahead. Regardless of whether or not we agree with her stances or not, this is not fraud.

Harvard toted her as a minority hire.

Cowlesy
05-03-2012, 04:13 PM
1/32nd.

Talk about flouting the rules, and then using an overt generalization about cheekbones to try and justify your point.

Libtards....

LimitedGovernment
05-03-2012, 05:32 PM
This isn't right. There is no factual basis for stating that she isn't of heritage, and her personal history demonstrates that she believes she has it. I have a friend who some say doesn't look NA, but who is and who gets college expenses paid for by authorities in Canada.

tttppp
05-03-2012, 05:57 PM
I noticed that some companies like to hire minorities to look good. I never thought to bullshit them about my background to get a job. These democrats are full of great ideas.

anaconda
05-03-2012, 06:02 PM
I imagine most of us have some native American blood. I'm about as white as it gets and I have native genes on my Dad's side of the family. Elizabeth Warren is the poster child for big government globalist NWO false left-right paradigm ridiculousness. In case you missed this pwn-ing, check it out..


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSadCyMu_Dk

Feeding the Abscess
05-04-2012, 01:10 AM
Mine was too! We gotta get us a piece of this action, Goat!

What's more, White Cloud (my GG-grandmom) married into the Hatfield clan. Are hillbillies a recognized minority? I could be a double-threat ...

ha... we're possibly related on some level. I also have Native family who married into the Hatfields.

Small world!

Jingles
05-04-2012, 02:14 AM
What's with liberals and being guilty about be white and/or hating that they are white??

I'm like 10% Native American, but you don't see me begging the state for special treatment/money.

Agorism
05-04-2012, 02:22 AM
I imagine most of us have some native American blood. I'm about as white as it gets and I have native genes on my Dad's side of the family. Elizabeth Warren is the poster child for big government globalist NWO false left-right paradigm ridiculousness. In case you missed this pwn-ing, check it out..


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSadCyMu_Dk

Sometimes I get annoyed with Schiff's rants, but that rant was pretty epic.

Paul Or Nothing II
05-04-2012, 04:09 AM
I think you are onto something ...

Yes, it's their little secret :D


Personally, I think it's because they think minorities are stupid and that they can buy their votes/loyalty cheap. And they're right in many cases.

On the flip side, the GOP does the same with the religious right.

Well, politicians think that all people in general are stupid, which is true, & that's why we don't have our liberties because majority of the people in general are idiots who want to suppress & pillage others for their own reasons


Litmus test.

If you look white and have a European last name, then you're not Native American. I don't care if you're "1/3 or 4/3"

Race is really a social construct so if you look white then you're white, it's just perception


1/32nd.

Talk about flouting the rules, and then using an overt generalization about cheekbones to try and justify your point.

Libtards....

And you know the hypocrisy, they'll say "there's no such thing as race" & then they'll support affirmative action & other such government initiatives based on race :rolleyes:


I noticed that some companies like to hire minorities to look good. I never thought to bullshit them about my background to get a job. These democrats are full of great ideas.

Yes, if they don't hire minorities then they run the risk of being called "racist" by the liberals so they must :rolleyes:


What's with liberals and being guilty about be white and/or hating that they are white??

I'm like 10% Native American, but you don't see me begging the state for special treatment/money.

Self-loathing scum they are & as I've said, they'll say there's no such thing as race & then support race-based policies :rolleyes:

And let's see how much these race-based policies have helped? They've only made things WORSE


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1Ey_g4wOnw



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85OIBOSJTwg&feature=related

libertarian4321
05-04-2012, 05:57 AM
I can't believe you people are mocking Pocahontas Warren.

You have no idea how hard it is to make it in America when you are a blue-eyed blonde "native American."

She had to overcome so much prejudice, I weep for her, lol.

tttppp
05-04-2012, 09:50 AM
Yes, if they don't hire minorities then they run the risk of being called "racist" by the liberals so they must :rolleyes:




But if they adopt the practice of hiring minorities because they are minorities, they are practicing discrimination. Something they are trying to avoid.

LimitedGovernment
05-09-2012, 05:36 AM
I'm really disappointed by a lot of you.

Elizabeth has been fighting Wall Street corruption in more serious ways than practically any member of government while not even holding office.

Moreover, her 1/32 ancestry is the same as some current tribal chiefs, it's well understood that she didn't get special benefits for her listing, she's spoken candidly about the subject of her history, and she's been more genuine and accountable than the majority of people running for office. She doesn't pander and she doesn't want the race to be about side issues. She wants her candidacy to be about policy and her interest in protecting people from things like fine print legalese.

She may be ignorant about some subjects, but you were once, as well. Other than that, she looks like a Democratic Ron Paul.

Agorism
05-09-2012, 05:46 AM
I can see the argument that Larry McDonald was a Democrat version of Ron Paul but not Elizabeth Warren.

She ain't no Indian either.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4wLszzZP-s&feature=youtu.be

LimitedGovernment
05-09-2012, 06:09 AM
I don't know who the guy you mentioned is. I do know Elizabeth Warren and her history.

The video you embedded has clips of her talking about her family members' cultural ties to Native American ancestry. There are many in the NA community who emphasize culture over blood. That makes her more, not less, worthy of making the claim and - once again - backs up her candid comments about listing herself to find others with an NA family background.

If anyone's at fault here, it's Harvard for not getting a fully tenured NA professor for their NA Law courses, and Republican talk show hosts who are lying, smearing her, and using racially-charged slams like "Pinnochio-hontas" and "Sacaja-whiner".

I mean, seriously, if the argument is that she's not "NA enough", then the idea of using racial slams shouldn't cross their minds.

Moreover, the WSJ did an interview in which some guy was eagerly talking about how Irish voters may go after her for being a "minority taking advantage of the system".

I mean, come on.

Agorism
05-09-2012, 06:23 AM
Sorry, we smell a rat...



“Harvard Law School currently has only one tenured minority woman, Gottlieb Professor of Law Elizabeth Warren, who is Native American.”

and on hiring?

Warren used her supposed Native American status to work at Harvard.

http://bostonherald.com/news/opinion/op_ed/view/20220504see_the_pale-faced_warren_redden_dances_with_truths_about_her_e thnicity/


Could it be that Warren’s years of sending self-promoting smoke signals helped her hunt down a cushy Harvard job?

As evidence, Bedard notes that, during the time she was at Harvard Law, only one of the approximately 100 professors and assistant professors hadn’t graduated from a Top 10 law school. Who?

Wahoo. As in “Wahoo” Warren. Her degree was from Rutgers Law, ranked 82nd by Top-Law-Schools.com.

Bedard then expanded the search to all Ivy League law schools. Did any of the 350 or so law professors have a degree less prestigious than “Dances With Truths?”

Just one. “A Yale professor who attended the University of Nebraska Law School, ranked 89,” Bedard reports.

Snagging a Harvard Law gig with such a mediocre curriculum vitae — and no preferential treatment? Wow — a woman this lucky should open a casino!

Warren no doubt is campaigning in support of affirmative action policies that she manipulated for her own gain as well.




Also as to who is McDonald?

From Paul's wikipedia


According to University of Georgia political scientist Keith Poole, Paul had the most conservative voting record of any member of Congress from 1937 to 2002,[119] and is the most conservative of the candidates seeking the 2012 Republican nomination for president,[120] on a scale primarily measuring positions on the role of government in managing the economy

http://voteview.com/Is_John_Kerry_A_Liberal.htm

Paul is listed as the most conservative member of congress in the last 100 years whereas McDonald is listed as the #2 most conservative member of congress only he was a Democrat. Click the link and scroll to the very bottom.

LimitedGovernment
05-09-2012, 06:32 AM
If we're going to look at the hiring decision, we need to look at the actual CVs that were up for the job. Candidates from "low ranked" universities can do better work.

However, you are right that minority status plays a role in hiring - it has to by federal law. That, again, doesn't mean that the candidate is at fault if a bad hiring decision is made. It means that the selection committee is.

Might she have emphasized her NA family members' background during her campus tour interview? Perhaps. That doesn't mean she should be smeared, or that the election shouldn't be about what she'll take action on in congress.


Whatever the case, the election should be about her policies and record. Wall Street is clearly out to get her because she's aggressive on preventing corrupt practices from proliferating - much less staying on the policy books.

This is like the Ron Paul newsletters thing - it distracts from what matters most.

Agorism
05-09-2012, 06:37 AM
Yep, she supports liberal justices and liberal policies to help herself cheat the system.

LimitedGovernment
05-09-2012, 06:39 AM
Wow. You negative repped me with the note "She's a communist".

Really?

Really?