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sailingaway
05-01-2012, 01:59 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robin-koerner/ron-paul-can-win_b_939993.html


It's hard to tell if the idea that Ron Paul cannot win in 2012 is more ignorant, in its complete lack of historical sophistication, or more arrogant, in its claim to certainty amid all the complexity of 300 million lives and the myriad issues that affect them.

Sometimes, perhaps once in a few generations, a nation can undergo what a mathematician or physicist would call a "phase change." The classic example of such a thing is a pile of sand. Every grain you add makes the pile slightly steeper and slightly higher without moving any of the other grains inside the pile, until eventually one grain is added that causes an avalanche of sand down the sides of the pile, moving thousand of grains and changing the shape of the pile.

Such behavior can be exhibited by all complex systems, and a nation -- it should be obvious -- is much more complex than a pile of sand.

The important point for those who would presume to make such grand predictions as "Dr. Paul cannot win" is that no examination of the pile of sand before the point of avalanche would tell you that, or when, the avalanche will eventually happen.

But happen it does; indeed, happen it must.

more at link

and in case you haven't seen it, Koerner wrote the lyrics to this, as well:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hc7pRH9_lb4

KEEF
05-01-2012, 02:21 PM
Hear hear to phase change! Let my NOBP vote be the straw that breaks the GOP camel's back.

twomp
05-01-2012, 02:43 PM
As anyone can find out just by talking to a broad cross-section of Ron Paul's supporters, his base is not uniform in its agreement on the standard issues of typical American party-political conflict. In fact, Paul supporters vary significantly even in their views of what in the old left-right paradigm were the "wedge-issues." Rather, they are united around concepts that could almost be called meta-political: whether left and right really exist, and, if they do, whether they are really opposed;

Best describes my view of the rEVOLution! Great read!

kathy88
05-01-2012, 05:07 PM
THAT was a stupendous read! I'm LOVING the comments. Might take me all night to get through them... 1648 right now.

ravedown
05-01-2012, 06:00 PM
bump-this article is a slam dunk! no self respecting journalist could read this and not feel a little uncomfortable about how RP has been treated by the MSM. great facts and historical perspective. unfortunately, the prose may be too sophisticated for casual browsers...i.e., dude can write.

mosquitobite
05-01-2012, 06:17 PM
This was written last August though guys...

sailingaway
05-01-2012, 06:32 PM
This was written last August though guys...

really? It came up in a 'by date search' today.

In any event it isn't any less accurate.

kathy88
05-01-2012, 06:33 PM
really? It came up in a 'by date search' today.

In any event it isn't any less accurate.

I noticed that about 6 comments in, but I'm glad you posted it. It's so well written.

Carson
05-01-2012, 06:59 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robin-koerner/ron-paul-can-win_b_939993.html



more at link

and in case you haven't seen it, Koerner wrote the lyrics to this, as well:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hc7pRH9_lb4


That's the best article I can remember reading for quite a while. The video was a great match.

kathy88 mentioned some comments. They have to be a good read also. Like Hors d'oeuvres with your background music.

rp713
05-01-2012, 07:24 PM
i remember reading this when it first came out. good read then, and still a good read. i think the thousands that are now showing up to every rally(and it is a melting pot no doubt) are the beginnings of the avalanche. rp winning all these states' delegates and turning out these huge numbers(WITH NO MEDIA COVERAGE) are the brush fires starting to turn into forest fires.

J_White
05-01-2012, 09:57 PM
nicely put !

stu2002
05-03-2012, 10:21 AM
It's hard to tell if the idea that Ron Paul cannot win in 2012 is more ignorant, in its complete lack of historical sophistication, or more arrogant, in its claim to certainty amid all the complexity of 300 million lives and the myriad issues that affect them.

Sometimes, perhaps once in a few generations, a nation can undergo what a mathematician or physicist would call a "phase change." The classic example of such a thing is a pile of sand. Every grain you add makes the pile slightly steeper and slightly higher without moving any of the other grains inside the pile, until eventually one grain is added that causes an avalanche of sand down the sides of the pile, moving thousand of grains and changing the shape of the pile.

Such behavior can be exhibited by all complex systems, and a nation -- it should be obvious -- is much more complex than a pile of sand.

The important point for those who would presume to make such grand predictions as "Dr. Paul cannot win" is that no examination of the pile of sand before the point of avalanche would tell you that, or when, the avalanche will eventually happen.

But happen it does; indeed, happen it must.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robin-koerner/ron-paul-can-win_b_939993.html

jay_dub
05-03-2012, 10:27 AM
It's hard to tell if the idea that Ron Paul cannot win in 2012 is more ignorant, in its complete lack of historical sophistication, or more arrogant, in its claim to certainty amid all the complexity of 300 million lives and the myriad issues that affect them.

Sometimes, perhaps once in a few generations, a nation can undergo what a mathematician or physicist would call a "phase change." The classic example of such a thing is a pile of sand. Every grain you add makes the pile slightly steeper and slightly higher without moving any of the other grains inside the pile, until eventually one grain is added that causes an avalanche of sand down the sides of the pile, moving thousand of grains and changing the shape of the pile.

Such behavior can be exhibited by all complex systems, and a nation -- it should be obvious -- is much more complex than a pile of sand.

The important point for those who would presume to make such grand predictions as "Dr. Paul cannot win" is that no examination of the pile of sand before the point of avalanche would tell you that, or when, the avalanche will eventually happen.

But happen it does; indeed, happen it must.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robin-koerner/ron-paul-can-win_b_939993.html

Yup.....some folks ARE 'getting it'.

...from further in the article:

Specifically, on all the metrics that a year ago everyone accepted as useful indicators of political standing, Ron Paul is not just a front-runner but a strong one.

First, and most directly, he does extremely well in polls. The organization of his grassroots support is not just excellent; it is remarkable, by historic and global measures. His ability to raise money from actual voters is second to none. His appeal to independents and swing voters is an order of magnitude greater than that of his competitors. Secondarily, he has more support from military personnel than all other candidates put together, if measured by donations; he has the most consistent voting record; he has the magical quality of not coming off as a politician; he oozes integrity and authenticity, and, as far as we know, he has a personal life and marriage that reflects deep stability and commitment.

To believe that Ron Paul's victory is a long shot in spite of all standard indicators that directly contradict this claim is to throw out all norms with which we follow our nation's politics -- and that is a huge thing to do. The only way it can be done honestly is to present another set of contradictory reasons or metrics that are collectively more powerful than all those that you are rejecting. I am yet to find them.

kill the banks
05-03-2012, 10:31 AM
good one

WilliamC
05-03-2012, 10:38 AM
The lies are so transparent that only those who watch nothing but television still believe them.

The phase shift has already happened, now we are seeing it unfold before our eyes.

stu2002
05-03-2012, 10:40 AM
bump

robink
05-03-2012, 07:52 PM
In the spirit of the original "Ron Paul Can Win", I just had this published, called,

"Paradigm Lost: Why the rEVOLution Has Not Been Televised"

www.huffingtonpost.com/robin-koerner/paradigm-lost-why-the-rev_b_1455069.html

It is a kind of update on the paradigm shift that I wrote about in "Ron Paul Can Win".

Hope you enjoy it.



The very fact that the prevailing paradigm cannot accommodate the cultural and political changes in the USA, or even the GOP, is evidence that those changes are radical enough to establish a new one.

Eventually, when the gap between what is so and what everyone "knows" becomes too large, it becomes impossible to carry on everyday life without seeing it, admitting it, and dealing with it. That point may finally be in sight.

sailingaway
05-03-2012, 07:56 PM
In the spirit of the original "Ron Paul Can Win", I just had this published, called,

"Paradigm Lost: Why the rEVOLution Has Not Been Televised"

www.huffingtonpost.com/robin-koerner/paradigm-lost-why-the-rev_b_1455069.html

It is a kind of update on the paradigm shift that I wrote about in "Ron Paul Can Win".

Hope you enjoy it.

Woot!

I'm sure we will. And welcome to the forums!

--
you may want to make a new thread of this so people know there is a new article to read...

robink
05-03-2012, 08:12 PM
Thanks.

Just done so at your suggestion .... (with some trouble because I'm too new to post links, apparently!)

Paul Or Nothing II
05-06-2012, 01:26 AM
Great article, nice to see something like that on HuffPo :D

Anyways, I found this in one of the comments there :


Obviously, I donīt believe in trickle down or Mr. Paulīs almost Darwinist domestic agenda,

I'm always amazed by liberals' cognitive dissonance on the issue of evolution
According to them, anyone who doesn't believe in evolution is an idiot & YET they themselves think they can thwart evolution through socialism :confused:
Well, if one is going to accept evolution then one must realize that it's an INEVITABLE natural phenomenon

Free market is merely a subset of evolution, based on "survival of the fittest";, evolution CAN'T be gotten around through big government socialism, socialism just changes the nature of "fit"; in a free market, "fit" would be those who produce & whose labor/skill is in high demand while under a big government socialist system, "fit" are those who can bribe & manipulate the government power to their advantage; surely, the former should be deemed better than the latter by those who supposedly appeal to reason & science!

It's just really funny that liberals think that anyone disbelieving in evolution is stupid but they themselves aren't so for their belief that they can devise a system to get around evolution :rolleyes:

Carson
05-06-2012, 01:46 AM
I didn't realize this guy was the same author as the article I read today. Reading him is like eating a rib eye steak.

Robin Koerner - "Paradigm Lost: Why the rEVOLution Has Not Been Televised" (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?374868-Robin-Koerner-quot-Paradigm-Lost-Why-the-rEVOLution-Has-Not-Been-Televised-quot)

Thank you robink.

unknown
05-06-2012, 04:09 AM
My GOD, this article at HUFF PO!?!?!

Mods must have been asleep.

Time to go regulate the comments.