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sailingaway
04-28-2012, 08:59 PM
To recap the current state of information, today Ron Paul supporters dominated the Louisiana caucuses: http://www.nola.com/politics/index.ssf/2012/04/ron_paul_supporters_dominate_l.html

and that tells only part of the victory, because by dominating the caucuses we also will dominate the state convention that picks the other delegates to the RNC!

In addition, despite the Alaska state GOP fleeing to destroy quorum without the votes to adjourn the state convention, Ron Paul supporters won what may be a plurality of the delegates from Alaska, (clarification needed) and took the Chair and Vice Chair positions for the State GOP!

Also, Ron Paul supporters will fill at least 16 and likely 18 (after provisional ballots are counted) of the Congressional District delegates from the state of Massachusetts!

And 4 out of 6 delegates awarded today in Virginia were won!

There were also delegates to state won in Mississipi!

Congratulations all!

threads below:

ALASKA

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?374100-Confirmed-huge-victory-in-Alaska!

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?373890-Alaska-State-Convention-Any-News

LOUISIANA

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?374003-Just-Got-Back-from-Louisiana-HQ

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?374074-Louisiana-caucus-results-(OFFICIAL-THREAD)

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?374052-Louisiana-district-1-won-219-to-80-something


MASSACHUSETTS

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?374037-Massachusetts-caucus-today

MISSISSIPPI

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?374034-Mississippi-County-Conventions

VIRGINIA

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?373995-Virginia-District-Conventions-April-28-May-19

specsaregood
04-28-2012, 09:11 PM
wut?

VAMole
04-28-2012, 09:12 PM
AND 4/6 FROM VIRGINIA - WE DID OUR PART :)

sailingaway
04-28-2012, 09:20 PM
AND 4/6 FROM VIRGINIA - WE DID OUR PART :)

Yea, Virginia!! And Mississippi too! I just am not clear how many we got out of how many were being determined, so I didn't put it up yet.

MisfitToy
04-28-2012, 09:21 PM
fantastic work! I've been watching the forum with joy all day. Congratulations to everyone. Romney might have goldman sachs but Ron Paul has a Revolution ;)

sailingaway
04-28-2012, 09:21 PM
fantastic work! I've been watching the forum with joy all day. Congratulations to everyone. Romney might have goldman sachs but Ron Paul has a Revolution ;)

Brushfires of Liberty!!

MozoVote
04-28-2012, 09:22 PM
Someone on Daily Paul said that N.C. elected a Paul-declared delegate today. Have not confirmed that yet through any of my trusted sources.

sailingaway
04-28-2012, 09:24 PM
Someone on Daily Paul said that N.C. elected a Paul-declared delegate today. Have not confirmed that yet through any of my trusted sources.

That would be so cool!

The Northbreather
04-28-2012, 11:13 PM
Ron Paul is Surging

Ron Paul Wins Again

Romney Loses Another Battle

Ron Paul And The New GOP

Conservatives Rally Around Ron Paul

The Revolution Is Alive And Well

Ron Paul Wins Louisiana

Kotin
04-28-2012, 11:15 PM
:D

QueenB4Liberty
04-28-2012, 11:17 PM
Wait Louisiana already voted? I'm confused? They get a caucus too and we won that?

Kilrain
04-28-2012, 11:19 PM
We need someone with a good understanding of what happened in LA, AL and MA to do a writeup that we can spread around. Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?

WilliamC
04-28-2012, 11:25 PM
Yea, Virginia!! And Mississippi too! I just am not clear how many we got out of how many were being determined, so I didn't put it up yet.

Mississippi won't be settled until after May 18th when we have our State Convention.

All I know is that in Tate County I'm going to the State Convention as a delegate and at least 5 of 11 newly elected Executive Committee members for the Tate County Republican Party are Ron Paul supporters as well.

If other Counties do as well as we did Ron Paul could possibly end up with a plurality of delegates, but there's no way to know for sure until the State Convention is concluded.

My understanding is as of right now all Mississippi delegates are bound to either Romney, Gingrich or Santorum, but it is possible that could change before or during the State Convention.

Xenophage
04-28-2012, 11:32 PM
We need someone with a good understanding of what happened in LA, AL and MA to do a writeup that we can spread around. Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?

Alabama? What?

sailingaway
04-28-2012, 11:37 PM
Ron Paul is Surging

Ron Paul Wins Again

Romney Loses Another Battle

Ron Paul And The New GOP

Conservatives Rally Around Ron Paul

The Revolution Is Alive And Well

Ron Paul Wins Louisiana

What are 'mainstream media articles we will never see', Alex?

Kilrain
04-28-2012, 11:45 PM
I did this short writeup on another forum, but I may have gotten a lot of things wrong. Any comments?


Great day for liberty yesterday. Ron Paul swept the Louisiana caucus by getting 74 percent of the delegates to the state convention, which gives the Paul people total control over the delegate selection and the ability to write the rules by themselves. Don't be surprised if LA sends an all-Paul delegation to Tampa, a majority of delegates is a given.

Paul won in Alaska as well, getting a plurality of delegates to the RNC in Tampa. Also some of the official Santorum delegates are Paul people. Anti-Paul people apparantly walked out at some point to deny a quorum and shut down the convention in order to prevent a total Paul "takeover".

Massachusetts selected most of their delegates to the RNC in Tampa yesterday, by congressional district. 27 spots were up for grabs and the Paul people seem to have taken 19 or 20 of these (including all of the delegate spots in the district where Mitt Romney lives ). These delegates will be bound for Romney on the first ballot only, I believe.

There are also good news coming out of places like Mississippi and Virginia. It's all a little confusing because the rules are different in every state, but the bottom line is that the GOP is undergoing a transformation with new liberty-minded blood coming in and taking over from the old guard in many places. The convention in Tampa should at least be entertaining.

sailingaway
04-28-2012, 11:48 PM
I think the plurality in Alaska needs some details clarified to be the plurality Ron can count on for a first ballot. But we got the chair and vice chair!

Mass has a bunch more delegates that will be selected differently, you might want to clarify that.

but good write up!

Kilrain
04-29-2012, 12:00 AM
I think the plurality in Alaska needs some details clarified to be the plurality Ron can count on for a first ballot. But we got the chair and vice chair!

Mass has a bunch more delegates that will be selected differently, you might want to clarify that.

but good write up!

Thanks a bunch.

carterm
04-29-2012, 12:00 AM
congrats all! santorum surgin'

Indy Vidual
04-29-2012, 12:09 AM
We need all 50 states to convert to caucuses. :)

Flugel89
04-29-2012, 12:12 AM
What are 'mainstream media articles we will never see', Alex?

Haha. I needed that laugh after work today. Thanks.

KerriAnn
04-29-2012, 12:25 AM
I am so glad you edited your post, lol. Much better!
I was a little bummed last week, but tonight I am more excited about the revolution than I have been in weeks. Too bad for my friends, they will be getting an earful tomorrow!!!!!!

Thank you to all of you who made tonight possible!

gerryb
04-29-2012, 12:31 AM
We need all 50 states to convert to caucuses. :)

Most already have conventions...

kah13176
04-29-2012, 12:44 AM
This is great and all, but many of these will be forced to vote for Romney since they're bound.

azxd
04-29-2012, 12:48 AM
It ain't over yet :D

LCG8928
04-29-2012, 12:49 AM
[QUOTE=kah13176;4386162]
Only on the first ballot, if we make it past that we would get a huge boost from them.

EDIT: Messed up the quote somehow this was meant to be at kah13176.

sailingaway
04-29-2012, 12:50 AM
This is great and all, but many of these will be forced to vote for Romney since they're bound.

Not in Louisiana, even if the current binding sticks only 5 or 8 ( I forget which) are bound to Romney, and since we took 74% of the delegates to the state convention, there might be a way to unbind delegates, in any event.

bultza
04-29-2012, 02:41 AM
in Louisiana 17/23 ... what's happend in CD 4?

speciallyblend
04-29-2012, 06:41 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5MAg_yWsq8&ob=av2n<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5MAg_yWsq8&amp;ob=av2n">
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5MAg_yWsq8&amp;ob=av2n (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5MAg_yWsq8&ob=av2n)

rb3b3
04-29-2012, 06:55 AM
sooooooooooooooooooo pathetic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i just did a google and yahoo search for : ron paul wins louisiana..... and not one main stream media outlet has an article on it!!!!!!!!!! i knew it anyway!! i knew that when ron paul won a state, you would not hear a single peep from any media outlet!!! they will not report any wins for ron what so ever because they know that even 1 report on a ron paul state victory it will create a mass surge for ron paul which will then make ron paul potus!!!!

CTRattlesnake
04-29-2012, 07:01 AM
im pretty sure that Alaska's delegates are bound on the first vote...

rodo1776
04-29-2012, 07:03 AM
great Job done by LA patriots and Taxachussetts, Alaska Va etc today. Well done!!

Just a reminder in LA which Im sure our folks in LA know about, but reading the rules the State Central Committee also appoints 5 additional delegates from each CD to the state convention. We can assume they will be Romney folks. So our numbers could be a bit diluted at State. Although Im hoping our alternates are high ranked and will show up and take some vacant spots possibly. Here is the verbage from party rules:

(a) Delegates and alternate delegates elected at District Caucuses. There shall be Twenty five (25) delegates at large from each of the congressional districts, elected at the District Caucuses. There shall be Twelve (12) alternate delegates at large from each of the congressional districts, elected at the District Caucuses.
(b) Delegates and alternate delegates elected by the Louisiana Republican State Central Committee. There shall be five (5) delegates at large from each of the congressional districts, elected by the Louisiana Republican State Central Committee members from the respective congressional districts. There shall be two (2) alternate delegates at large from each of the congressional Districts, elected by the Louisiana Republican State Central Committee members from the respective congressional districts.

Full rules here:

http://lagop.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/LAGOP-2012-Caucus-and-Convention-Rules.pdf

An interesting question would be if in the CD elections yesterday were district central committee members elected as well (or do we have control of any CD central committees?) which would give us control of some or all CDs and then appoint the 5 additional delegates to state? anyone know how this is panning out?

Again Kudos to all.

anewvoice
04-29-2012, 08:49 AM
So I just did my FB updates on news the news isn't telling you and even I was a bit surprised at all the positive news (not in the msm of course).

Colorado - http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_20398638/politics#ixzz1tRFaNWTr
Wasington - http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/333906/20120426/ron-paul-2012-delegates-news-romney-convention.htm
Iowa and Minnesota - http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/332617/20120424/ron-paul-2012-delegates-news-iowa-minnesota.htm
Massachusetts - http://www.policymic.com/articles/7650/ron-paul-wins-massachusetts-delegates-in-district-caucuses&referral=latest_comments
Alaska - http://www.alaskadispatch.com/article/ron-paul-supporters-take-over-alaska-republican-party
Louisiana - http://www.nola.com/politics/index.ssf/2012/04/ron_paul_supporters_dominate_l.html


I feel I'm missing Nevada, any other articles with good news?

JWZguy
04-29-2012, 09:02 AM
I was told by people at campaign HQ that since we have over a 2/3 majority in LA we can unbind all delegates at the state convention.

Badger Paul
04-29-2012, 09:08 AM
<i>"sooooooooooooooooooo pathetic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i just did a google and yahoo search for : ron paul wins louisiana..... and not one main stream media outlet has an article on it!!!!!!!!!! i knew it anyway!! i knew that when ron paul won a state, you would not hear a single peep from any media outlet!!! they will not report any wins for ron what so ever because they know that even 1 report on a ron paul state victory it will create a mass surge for ron paul which will then make ron paul potus!"</i>

What this all shows is how poor political journalism is in this country. They just don't understand the process of choosing deleagtes nor do they care because they're too lazy to do so and just go with the narratives everyone else is talking about. Control of a political party is a major story and they've shown they really don't care.

rodo1776
04-29-2012, 09:15 AM
I was told by people at campaign HQ that since we have over a 2/3 majority in LA we can unbind all delegates at the state convention.

That is great if we have a 2/3rds majority today. But if we picked up yesterday 110 out of 150 (dont have the exact number but this is close) Then we would have 2/3rds 110/150 equals 73%. But if as the rules state they will select five more delegates per CD then there will be 180 delegates and if we do not have any of those (or cant cut any deals with enough) then we would have 110 out of 180 or 61% which is not 2/3rds.

Can we expect to pick up any of those 30 more delegates to be selected to maintain 2/3rds?

I would not expect that we could count on many of our alternates to be seated (at least on the vote for National delegates) and we would need to make sure that 100% of our elected delegates yesterday show up and stay. I assume they will.

sailingaway
04-29-2012, 10:15 AM
great Job done by LA patriots and Taxachussetts, Alaska Va etc today. Well done!!

Just a reminder in LA which Im sure our folks in LA know about, but reading the rules the State Central Committee also appoints 5 additional delegates from each CD to the state convention. We can assume they will be Romney folks. So our numbers could be a bit diluted at State. Although Im hoping our alternates are high ranked and will show up and take some vacant spots possibly. Here is the verbage from party rules:

(a) Delegates and alternate delegates elected at District Caucuses. There shall be Twenty five (25) delegates at large from each of the congressional districts, elected at the District Caucuses. There shall be Twelve (12) alternate delegates at large from each of the congressional districts, elected at the District Caucuses.
(b) Delegates and alternate delegates elected by the Louisiana Republican State Central Committee. There shall be five (5) delegates at large from each of the congressional districts, elected by the Louisiana Republican State Central Committee members from the respective congressional districts. There shall be two (2) alternate delegates at large from each of the congressional Districts, elected by the Louisiana Republican State Central Committee members from the respective congressional districts.

Full rules here:

http://lagop.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/LAGOP-2012-Caucus-and-Convention-Rules.pdf

An interesting question would be if in the CD elections yesterday were district central committee members elected as well (or do we have control of any CD central committees?) which would give us control of some or all CDs and then appoint the 5 additional delegates to state? anyone know how this is panning out?

Again Kudos to all.

good point. Dang, I wanted supermajority and now it just looks like 'clear majority'.....

sailingaway
04-29-2012, 10:16 AM
I was told by people at campaign HQ that since we have over a 2/3 majority in LA we can unbind all delegates at the state convention.

I don't know if that is so, so it might have been people just speculating as private supporters. If 5 are elected from each CD by the central committee... well I guess it depends on if that central committee is the one chosen at state convention, in which case, that's fine.

rodo1776
04-29-2012, 11:05 AM
I don't know if that is so, so it might have been people just speculating as private supporters. If 5 are elected from each CD by the central committee... well I guess it depends on if that central committee is the one chosen at state convention, in which case, that's fine.

http://www.capitalrepublican.com/?p=65

Although we have two on board it appears. Probably wont get these 3o additional delegates IMHO. But we still have majority so GO GET WHAT YOU CAN!!

http://exchangegoldforcash.com/money/u-s-government/president/2012-election/ron-paul/ron-paul-endorsed-by-two-louisiana-state-republican-central-committee-members/

These committees are insiders in most all states and we need to do what we can to pay attention in off years to get people elected to them.

sailingaway
04-29-2012, 11:30 AM
im pretty sure that Alaska's delegates are bound on the first vote...

first and second, I believe, but only if the campaign is running an 'active' campaign, an unusual qualifier. Query Santorum.

sailingaway
04-29-2012, 11:32 AM
So I just did my FB updates on news the news isn't telling you and even I was a bit surprised at all the positive news (not in the msm of course).

Colorado - http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_20398638/politics#ixzz1tRFaNWTr
Wasington - http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/333906/20120426/ron-paul-2012-delegates-news-romney-convention.htm
Iowa and Minnesota - http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/332617/20120424/ron-paul-2012-delegates-news-iowa-minnesota.htm
Massachusetts - http://www.policymic.com/articles/7650/ron-paul-wins-massachusetts-delegates-in-district-caucuses&referral=latest_comments
Alaska - http://www.alaskadispatch.com/article/ron-paul-supporters-take-over-alaska-republican-party
Louisiana - http://www.nola.com/politics/index.ssf/2012/04/ron_paul_supporters_dominate_l.html


I feel I'm missing Nevada, any other articles with good news?

that Washington article is a little overly optimistic because those are just delegates to the next stage in the state process. Still, it was good news, and if the mainstream media here had reported it AT ALL they could have done so correctly.

NorfolkPCSolutions
04-29-2012, 06:41 PM
Well, well, powers that be...it seems the people may have an opportunity after all to learn more about this unelectable, tired, old man with no chance of even making it as far along in the process as the convention.

Perhaps there are more of us than you can stop after all. May God bless the day.

This is our government. This is our country. Ron Paul is our voice.

InTradePro
04-29-2012, 07:37 PM
Ron Paul supporters team with Joe Miller to take over Alaska Republican Party

http://www.alaskadispatch.com/article/ron-paul-supporters-team-joe-miller-take-over-alaska-republican-party

sailingaway
04-29-2012, 07:37 PM
yeah, that's the same story posted last night, they just run new headlines over it.

lib3rtarian
04-30-2012, 07:19 AM
So how many delegates did we win from AK?

From here: hxxp://www.kansascity.com/2012/04/30/3583855/ron-pauls-supporters-stir-up-alaska.html


Their candidate won the party chairmanship, beating out the man backed by Randy Ruedrich, who has led the party since 2000 and didn’t seek another term. But they didn’t win their chief goal of changing the party rules and claiming all 24 state delegates to the national Republican convention for Paul, the favorite of the libertarian wing of the party. Instead, Alaska will send six Paul delegates to Tampa in August.


After all that, did we get just 6?

lib3rtarian
04-30-2012, 08:58 PM
So how many delegates did we win from AK?

Can someone who knows please answer my question?

dude58677
04-30-2012, 11:49 PM
This is great and all, but many of these will be forced to vote for Romney since they're bound.

Not according to rule 38 of the RNC Convention. Delegates can vote for whoever they choose regardless of primary.

speciallyblend
04-30-2012, 11:57 PM
that Washington article is a little overly optimistic because those are just delegates to the next stage in the state process. Still, it was good news, and if the mainstream media here had reported it AT ALL they could have done so correctly.

look at all those 18 yr olds in the colorado pic:) hehe http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_20398638/politics#ixzz1tRFaNWTr lil hint we have our denver gop chair meeting to elect new positions tomorrow:) I will be ready to give an update seconds after it happens:) 5-1-12

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQLWMvJ3sp4<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQLWMvJ3sp4">
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQLWMvJ3sp4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQLWMvJ3sp4)

J_White
05-01-2012, 01:52 AM
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